White Boxers in 2008

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whiteathlete33 said:
We can pick up 3 more titles in December. I am picking Froch, Adamek, and Maccarenelli, to win their fights by UD. These 3 wins would result in 18 belts held by whites from middleweight up. That would be just unbelievable and we have a real chance at picking up these belts. Good luck to all 3 of them.

When and who is Enzo fighting? I can't find any information on that.
 

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Danny Williams is not a top 15 guy. He's a top 50 guy.

Danny Williams was ranked #15 on BoxRec's computerized rankings, and now they've moved Albert Sosnowski up to #15 and Williams down to #39.

I've usually ranked him around 17 to 19 - he's been a perennial fringe contender. But he's age 35 now, and if a heavyweight doesn't keep himself fit, he will go into a quick decline at that age.

I checked boxrec after his loss where I saw him at 39. Didn't know he was as high as 15 before that.

I use this list to rank the HWs though I'm sure people will find some fault with it.

http://boxing.about.com/cs/rankingschampions/a/bl_heavy.htmEdited by: Amren.com
 

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Amren.com said:
whiteathlete33 said:
We can pick up 3 more titles in December. I am picking Froch, Adamek, and Maccarenelli, to win their fights by UD. These 3 wins would result in 18 belts held by whites from middleweight up. That would be just unbelievable and we have a real chance at picking up these belts. Good luck to all 3 of them.

When and who is Enzo fighting? I can't find any information on that.

Enzo's fighting Jonathon Banks. Banks is a decent fighter, but barely got past his Italian challenger Rossitto in his last fight. Enzo shouldn't have much trouble, wither a wide UD or a stoppage.
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Saturday night, Krasniqi and Dimitrenko face off. Also, just added to the undercard is Denis Boytsov facing his toughest challenge yet against Vinny Maddalone. That should be a war!
 

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Two Heavyweights out of Germany fought and won today. Steffen Kretshcmann (a very good amateur) got a very impressive and quick win over a more experienced power punching opponent in 2 rounds.

Also, Konstantin Airich is rebounding nicely from his loss to Danny Williams with his second straight victory, this one a UD over a likewise more experience foe.
 

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Sean said:
Two Heavyweights out of Germany fought and won today. Steffen Kretshcmann (a very good amateur) got a very impressive and quick win over a more experienced power punching opponent in 2 rounds.

Also, Konstantin Airich is rebounding nicely from his loss to Danny Williams with his second straight victory, this one a UD over a likewise more experience foe.

Nice to see Konstantin Airich come back with a win, after the idiotic behavior of that referee in the Williams fight. He had Williams in deep trouble twice, but the referee kept giving the British boxer standing eight counts and inadvertantly helped him to survive.Edited by: JD1986
 

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Overall, November was a very good month for white boxers!

Steve Molitor lost his super bantamweight title to Celestino Caballero, but on the positive side:

- Joe Calzaghe won a dominant decision over Roy Jones, 118-109 on all cards.
- Ricky Hatton had a big win.
- Alexander Dimitrenko had an impressive KO win and has established himself as a top heavyweight contender.
- Boytsov, Garay, Sturm, and Abraham continued their winning ways.
- Sergei Dzinziruk outclassed his Columbian mandatory, Joel Julio.

One of the most satisfying wins was by Albert Sosnowski, who had been treated unfairly by the New York judges in his previous fight, as he knocked out Danny Williams, one of boxing's dirtiest fighters.

In December:

- Maccarinelli vs. Banks, Dec 6
- Froch vs. Pascal, Dec 6
- Adamek vs. Cunningham, Dec 11
- Wlad vs. Rahman, Dec 13
- Valuev vs. Holyfield, Dec 20, with Platov and Pianeta on the undercard


Some very good matchups to look forward to!
 

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Andrzej Wawrzyk won the Polish Heavyweight title on Saturday with a shutout win over Tomasz Bonin. Another very good win for him.
 

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Lots of great wins this month although the Molitor loss was a little disappointing. I am so hyped up for December its ridiculous.
 

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whiteathlete33 said:
Lots of great wins this month although the Molitor loss was a little disappointing. I am so hyped up for December its ridiculous.

We could have 18 of 20 middleweight and up titles on the 11th of December. That would be awesome. I'm really hoping Adamek can beat Cunningham on the 11th.
 

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There's 4 major titles people go by these days it used to be just the WBC,WBA,IBF but now the WBO has been legitimized in recent years. Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe from Middleweight to Heavyweight there's 20 belts and we have most of them.
 

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Are the lighter weights not as important to most of us?I would be a welterweight if I boxed, so I enjoy the Welters, and Feathers of the boxing world. But I guess the bigger guys are a little more fun to watch.
 

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P-NutLane said:
 Are the lighter weights not as important to most of us? I would be a welterweight if I boxed, so I enjoy the Welters, and Feathers of the boxing world. But I guess the bigger guys are a little more fun to watch.

I wouldn't say the lighter divisions are less important, it's just that whites who enter sports are usually in the 160-on up range. Dzinziruk, Kotelnik, Hatton, Darchinyan etc are in these lower classes, but the majority are Mexican/Hispanic and Asian.
 

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P-NutLane said:
 How many total belts are there?

I use this so there are 20 belts middleweight and up. I don't count The Ring belts although those are good to have too.

For some reason the space between h and a in champions won't close so you have to fix it to get that link to work.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_world_boxing_ch ampions

The Enzo Mac fight has been cancelled because Banks is injured. So we can only hope to have 17 belts on the 11th.Edited by: Amren.com
 
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I think Enzo would have handled Banks rather easily. Enzo is a hell of a fighter in my opinion. The Haye fight really was not a good account of Enzo's ability. That being said, I think Haye will get KO'd nasty when he fights a big punching heavyweight. At cruiserweight though let's be honest, Haye was very very dominant.
 

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I think Enzo would have handled Banks rather easily. Enzo is a hell of a fighter in my opinion. The Haye fight really was not a good account of Enzo's ability. That being said, I think Haye will get KO'd nasty when he fights a big punching heavyweight. At cruiserweight though let's be honest, Haye was very very dominant.

Haye is very good at cruiserweight so hopefully he'll get punked out by both Klitcho brothers or anyone else for that matter and retire.
 

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Haye does have a loss at cruiserweight against Carl Thompson. Haye could beat most heavyweights however there are a few that would destroy him. They are both Klitschko, Povetkin, Dimintrenko, and Chagaev. Haye has no chance with these 5.
 

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whiteathlete33 said:
Haye does have a loss at cruiserweight against Carl Thompson. Haye could beat most heavyweights however there are a few that would destroy him. They are both Klitschko, Povetkin, Dimintrenko, and Chagaev. Haye has no chance with these 5.

You forgot Valuev, Ibragimov, possibly Minto, and after a bit more developing Boytsov, Bidenko and the up and coming Euros. I would favor Haye against almost any black Heavyweight except Samuel Peter, and possibly Tony Thompson due to his height advantage. However, the only top white Heavyweights Haye would have a better than even chance at beating are Maskaev and Golota because they are both past it.
 

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Enzo's new opponent will be 11-1 Fransisco Alvarez of Peurto Rico. Obviously this is not a high profile opponent, but it isn't Enzo's fault. He should pick up the title and will probably defend against Banks or Flores (who turned down the fight).

Edit: Alvarez one loss was a 4 round KO by Alexeev by the way.Edited by: Sean
 

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Who is fighting on the 11th?
 

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whiteathlete33 said:
So Enzo will be fighting Alvarez for the title?

Yes, for the vacant WBO title.

You're going to the Adamek fight athlete?
 
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