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Vitali vs Peter
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White Shogun
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Just caught the replay.
Like I said, the Klitschko story is larger than life. If they were two brothers from an urban ghetto, Denzel and Will Smith would already have scripts in hand memorizing lines for the movie.
Vitali hit Peter at will. He might as well have been working on a heavy bag in the gym.
It's a disgrace that boxing writers think Sam Peter is the 'future,' and would bring 'respect' back to heavyweight boxing. He is a joke. They kept talking about his 'one punch' KO power, but as I pointed out in this thread earlier, he has 2 (T)KO wins in his last six fights. He couldn't KO Jameel McCline, James Toney, or Robert Hawkins (who?). Vitali has never been down in a fight - Peter wasn't going to KO him.
It's interesting that the boxing writers think respect would have been restored to the division with a Peter win. How is that no respect is restored if the guy who fights Peter makes him quit on his stool? If Peter was supposed to be the savior of heavyweight boxing, wouldn't that make the guy who beats him even better?
I'm glad Peter quit on his stool. That's better than a KO. Vitali broke him down physically and broke his spirit. 'Nuff said.
Like I said, the Klitschko story is larger than life. If they were two brothers from an urban ghetto, Denzel and Will Smith would already have scripts in hand memorizing lines for the movie.
Vitali hit Peter at will. He might as well have been working on a heavy bag in the gym.
It's a disgrace that boxing writers think Sam Peter is the 'future,' and would bring 'respect' back to heavyweight boxing. He is a joke. They kept talking about his 'one punch' KO power, but as I pointed out in this thread earlier, he has 2 (T)KO wins in his last six fights. He couldn't KO Jameel McCline, James Toney, or Robert Hawkins (who?). Vitali has never been down in a fight - Peter wasn't going to KO him.
It's interesting that the boxing writers think respect would have been restored to the division with a Peter win. How is that no respect is restored if the guy who fights Peter makes him quit on his stool? If Peter was supposed to be the savior of heavyweight boxing, wouldn't that make the guy who beats him even better?
I'm glad Peter quit on his stool. That's better than a KO. Vitali broke him down physically and broke his spirit. 'Nuff said.
I can't believe how easy that was. The one announcer called it "a glorified sparring session" and that was being generous.
Is Peter, the out-of-shape blob with no technique to deal with opponents with a reach advantage,the best black heavyweight in the world? No wonder the Caste media is in permanent weeping mode when it comes to boxing.
Is Peter, the out-of-shape blob with no technique to deal with opponents with a reach advantage,the best black heavyweight in the world? No wonder the Caste media is in permanent weeping mode when it comes to boxing.
Thrashen
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They actually did show this huge win in the bottom "news ticker" on ESPN. So it wasnt a total coverup....yet. Let's be honest, the average beer-swilling white moron has no clue who's the heavyweight champ. I think we all know why, so I wont waste anyone's time posting the obvious details.
But man, Peter looked so scared, slow, weak, and tired in that ring today. Perhaps if he wasnt such a sh*t talker, I'd feel bad for him. I dont think Peter will be back anytime soon. Now the media has several reasons not to trust Peter anymore:
1) He quit on the stool with 4 rounds left
2) He lost to a "washed up," white fighter who was ten years his senior and had retired many times over 4 years
3) He lost every round, and barely threw a punch
Peter's nitch as a "great black hope" is has officially come to an end.
God Bless the Klitschko's! They are great, intelligent, athletic men. The two baddest men on planet earth are these white brothers, our brothers
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But man, Peter looked so scared, slow, weak, and tired in that ring today. Perhaps if he wasnt such a sh*t talker, I'd feel bad for him. I dont think Peter will be back anytime soon. Now the media has several reasons not to trust Peter anymore:
1) He quit on the stool with 4 rounds left
2) He lost to a "washed up," white fighter who was ten years his senior and had retired many times over 4 years
3) He lost every round, and barely threw a punch
Peter's nitch as a "great black hope" is has officially come to an end.
God Bless the Klitschko's! They are great, intelligent, athletic men. The two baddest men on planet earth are these white brothers, our brothers
When I think about it, this is a hugh story. Two brothers conquering the heavyweight division. Wiping out all contenders and black hopes, in an age where the MSM pretends that blacks are superior affelets and fighters. Here, right now, are two white atheletic men who have defeated every black fighter they have ever faced.
If Sports Illustrated were unbais and fair, this thursday on the cover, it should feature these two white men holding all the straps and proclaim, "White Men Can Fight, What were we thinking!" I doubt it, just another cover of McNabb being let down by his team. I am sick of this bulls..t!
If Sports Illustrated were unbais and fair, this thursday on the cover, it should feature these two white men holding all the straps and proclaim, "White Men Can Fight, What were we thinking!" I doubt it, just another cover of McNabb being let down by his team. I am sick of this bulls..t!
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I would be happy if the mags and TV shows even mention the Klitschko brother's accomplishment in a positive way. They can leave the racial stuff out of it. This is a story that deserves to be written.
whiteathlete33
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I told you guys. Vitali is the best fighter in the world. I never had a doubt.
Maple Leaf
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By and large, this fight, and the control of all of the heavyweight belts by whites, is going unnoticed by casual sports observers. MMA is dominated mostly by whites so it is ridiculed as "unskilled brawling". Now with whites dominating boxing, and especially the heavyweight division, the sport is viewed as having poor quality participants and not worthy of front page news. To the brain dead and brainwashed fans of football these sports are irrelevant to their belief that their cherished African heros are naturally superior athletes and there is no convincing them otherwise. However, to the teenager growing up in the post millenium era, he will know nothing else but seeing his own kind and kin winning and dominating in the combat sports whether he is interested in these sports or not.
Thrashen
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Day by day, the caste system falls. This was yet another beautiful moment to cherish. Boxing is ours again.
This was the best moment in boxing history. This will never, ever happen again. It literally warmed my heart to see my people, the German people, chanting: "Vitali, Vitali, Vitali!" There was no question as to who 'they' wanted to win.
They went insane after he won and was handed his belt. Wlad is amazing, but Vitali IS A KING!
This was the best moment in boxing history. This will never, ever happen again. It literally warmed my heart to see my people, the German people, chanting: "Vitali, Vitali, Vitali!" There was no question as to who 'they' wanted to win.
They went insane after he won and was handed his belt. Wlad is amazing, but Vitali IS A KING!
Maple Leaf
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Thrashen wrote: "They went insane after he won and was handed his belt. Wlad is amazing, but Vitali IS A KING!"
This is so true. Wladimir is more technically superior but Vitali is a cut above. Vitali doesn't come to win a fight, he comes in to kill his opponents. He is more viscious and meaner than his brother. This is understood statistically as he has the highest knockout ratio of any heavyweight champion in the history of boxing (92%+). He is basically undefeated as well as he has never bean beaten on the scorecards and never been beaten by someone else's fists -not ever been hurt let alone knocked down.
This is so true. Wladimir is more technically superior but Vitali is a cut above. Vitali doesn't come to win a fight, he comes in to kill his opponents. He is more viscious and meaner than his brother. This is understood statistically as he has the highest knockout ratio of any heavyweight champion in the history of boxing (92%+). He is basically undefeated as well as he has never bean beaten on the scorecards and never been beaten by someone else's fists -not ever been hurt let alone knocked down.
whiteathlete33
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The media will have to try and find another "Great Black Hope. I almost got into a fight camping because some fat guy was saying Klitschko was a bum. I told him to sit down and have another salted snack.
mrjohnnynofear
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Congrats to Vitali on the win! Now hopefully we don't have to hear about Sam Peter ever again. He couldn't even say no more with a mic in front of him. He just mumbled he quit. This now only leaves heavy fisted but loudmouth and possible suspect chin David Haye as the next black hope in line (thought he still has to win a few fights first). Given he was good at the cruiserweight division but the heavyweight division is a whole another animal. He may win a few fights against some bums but when it comes to the top 5, they will test his chin and more likely than not he will fail with flying colors
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whiteathlete33
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David Haye has no chance against either Klitschko. They would just dominate him from long range. Peter said that Vitali and Wlad are like robots. He found out who the best fighter in the world is real fast. Now all we can argue about which brother is the better fighter.
Keith Lincoln
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I have a some limited amateur boxing background, have been a visitor to the training camps of some world champions and have known 2 former fighters who fought for world titles, so I feel I can give a relatively objective opinion. Vitali , last night, looked better than his brother. Vitali displayed hand quickness and footwork, which looked like Ali in his prime, except Vitali is taller and more chiseled. Sam Peter is a very good heavyweight. Vitali made him look like a very slow amateur. Vitali's performance, after a four year lay off , is one of the most impressive performances by a heavyweight in the past 10 years. Anyone who doubts that the Klitschkos belong among the best heavyweights in the past 15 years, is either lying or doesn't know what he is talking about. I actually spoke with Randolph Burt Sugar, while waiting in line in a post office about 4 months ago. When I asked him what he thought of Wlad Klitschko, he said " Heavyweights, who cares". He is not as knowledgable about boxing as he is portrayed.
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Excellent post and welcome to Caste! It's true Vitali is a very impressive heavyweight. To me that is one of the best fights I have seen at Heavyweight for a long time. The Klitschko brothers are officially on top of the division.Keith Lincoln said:
Bert Sugar is a joke. All he does is praise Sugar Ray Robinson. It doesn't matter who their talking about, it always ends up being about SRR.
As for black hopes, there are only two "black hopes" on the horizon right now. David Haye, who was established very well as a cruiserwight. He has no chin though, and if Cruisers knock you down, Heavies will knock you out. The other is the cuban, Solis. He's undefeated, but VERY lazy, never in shape, and looked horrible yesterday against Chauncy Welliver. He's not going anywhere. I suppose we will be hearing about Deontay Wilder soon, and thats it! White fights have almost run blacks completely out of the Heavyweight division!
Colonel_Reb
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It is a great thing to see fellow whites dominating the division like they are. I really hope complete unification happens within the next two years.
whiteathlete33
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The heavyweight division is so stacked with young white talent its scary. On top of the two Klitschkos we also have Alexander Povetkin, Alexander Dimitrenko, Alexander Ustinov, Oleg Platov, and Taras Bidenko. Next up is the cruiserweight division. Adamek should be able to beat Cunningham. Anyone hear when they are supposed to fight? I heard possibly December.
Not only are the Klitschko brothers great boxers but they are also great people. They are positive role models for young white kids. They are both very intelligent holding phd's and can speak several language. Compare that to the accomplishments of former champions like Tyson who raped a woman.Edited by: whiteathlete33
Not only are the Klitschko brothers great boxers but they are also great people. They are positive role models for young white kids. They are both very intelligent holding phd's and can speak several language. Compare that to the accomplishments of former champions like Tyson who raped a woman.Edited by: whiteathlete33
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Let's hope the Klitschkos inspire white Americans to box as heavyweights. With all the prejudices and lack of opportunities in football, athletic whites may look to boxing as a viable athletic career and sporting opportunity. And there already seems to be an increase: the successes of Mike Mollo and Brian Minto, while notcomparing to Tommy Morison'scareer, at least indicate a trend of decent white heavyweight contenders. I can remember about ten years ago there were only tomato can jokes. Peter McNeely comes to mind - a scrub that fought Tyson at his comeback and lost in 80 or so seconds and then went on to make a Pizza Hut commercial about it. I watched that commercial as a kid and was brainwashed into thinking a white man could never beat Tyson - but I always remained hopeful that the times would change. And when they did and have, I thought the media would totally eat it up. It's a twisted, backward world of sports media we endure. Can you imagine this kind of news - two white brothers the heavyweight champions of the world- not being widely praised in the early 20<SUP>th</SUP> century, when the media was at certain times craving the sensationalism that would accompany another white heavyweight champ?<?:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com
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