US military intervention in Syria

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It appears that the US may soon go to war with another of Israel's enemies, this time Syria.

http://rt.com/usa/white-house-military-syria-own-186/

President Obama could well consider a military strike in Syria despite the British Parliament rejecting a motion authorizing the UK’s involvement in the conflict.

White House officials told reporters Thursday that the statement from United States’ closest ally, reluctance from the United Nations Security Council, and widespread uncertainty in the US Congress would not be enough to sway Obama from a limited missile strike on Syrian targets. Obama, who has been criticized for not consulting with Congress over Syria, met with lawmakers and other top leaders in a White House conference call Thursday.

We have seen the result of the Parliament vote in the UK tonight. The US will continue to consult with the UK government - one of our closest allies and friends. As we've said, President Obama's decision-making will be guided by what is in the best interests of the United States,” said a White House statement following the meeting. “He believes that there are core interests at stake for the United States and that countries who violate international norms regarding chemical weapons need to be held accountable.”

A White House statement released after the 90-minute teleconference said the call included, among others, National Security Adviser Susan Rice, Secretary of State John Kerry, Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel as well as relevant committee chairmen and ranking members.

"The views of Congress are important to the President's decision-making process, and we will continue to engage with Members as the President reaches a decision on the appropriate US response to the Syrian government's violation of international norms against the use of chemical weapons," the White House statement read.

US Rep. Eliot Engel, D-N.Y., top Democrat on the House Foreign Affairs Committee, said that administration officials failed to provide any new evidence but only revealed the government has allegedly intercepted "some discussions and some indications from a high-level [Syrian] official" regarding use of chemical weapons. "The main thing was that they have no doubt that Assad's forces used chemical weapons," Engel said.

The administration also plans to release a declassified intelligence report on the recent chemical weapons attacks in Syria Friday, according to Major Garrett of CBS News. The White House will reportedly release the legal justification for military action if Obama orders it, as well.

When the president reaches a determination about the appropriate response…and a legal justification is required to substantiate or to back up that decision, we’ll produce one on our own,” White House spokesman Josh Earnest said in the hours before the British vote.

Thursday’s intelligence presentation did not implicate Assad in the chemical weapons attack in the suburbs of Damascus, White House aides told the New York Times, but administration officials believe they have “enough evidence to carry out a limited strike that would deter the Syrian government from using these weapons again.”

Assad and the Syrian government have blamed the chemical attack, documented in gruesome footage throughout the Internet, on opposition forces. The White House has admitted that the US has “no smoking gun” to prove Assad was behind the attack, leaving enough doubt for the British House of Commons to reject military action.

While UK MPs debated possible a possible missile strike US Congress was in the midst of a summer recess, although Senator Dianne Feinstein of California said a vote would not be necessary.

There have been consultations. There will be more consultations,” she told Time magazine. “This is not to send troops over, as I understand it…obviously, it would be good to wait, but if time is of the essence that’s the decision the administration has to make. I think there is lots of ways of doing consultations which is adequate.”
 

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Obama and his sycophants must be shocked that unlike in the USA, where the media is going along with everything the Administration says, people in the UK and the rest of the world actually want to see the evidence that Assad carried out the chemical weapons attack. After all if he's winning and the main threat is not the rebels but a NATO intervention why would he do it? I never heard anyone in US media even ask the question.

So now that the UK is out of the Coalition of the Willing and the French are going wobbly Micronesia and the Solomon Islands had better step it up a notch.
 

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How white the Syrians are! Looking at news footage, Damascus is full of white - not just white-ish - people.

That will make it more likely that "we" will bomb them back to the stone age.
 

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This entire Syrian "civil war" is the most obvious manufactured crisis ever. The people have never rebelled en mass against the Assad government. From the beginning, it's been shipped-in mercenaries armed by us through proxies. The supposed atrocities committed by the Assad regime have been nothing but photo-ops in the best CIA fashion. I have no doubt that their have been many real atrocities, but those have been done by the "peace-loving" al-queda insurgents that we are backing in our utter stupidity. Nice to be a pawn of Israel, yes?
 

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Amazing that in the UK vote in parliament against a war motion in Syria over 30 Conservatives voted against their own Prime Minister. Good to see some Tories defecting from the usual pro-war agenda that the party usually follows, since 1914 at least.
 

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Amazing that in the UK vote in parliament against a war motion in Syria over 30 Conservatives voted against their own Prime Minister. Good to see some Tories defecting from the usual pro-war agenda that the party usually follows, since 1914 at least.
Yes. Props to those British MPs for not being US/Israel puppets.

This entire Syrian "civil war" is the most obvious manufactured crisis ever. The people have never rebelled en mass against the Assad government. From the beginning, it's been shipped-in mercenaries armed by us through proxies. The supposed atrocities committed by the Assad regime have been nothing but photo-ops in the best CIA fashion. I have no doubt that their have been many real atrocities, but those have been done by the "peace-loving" al-queda insurgents that we are backing in our utter stupidity. Nice to be a pawn of Israel, yes?
Well said. :thumb:
 

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This entire Syrian "civil war" is the most obvious manufactured crisis ever. The people have never rebelled en mass against the Assad government. From the beginning, it's been shipped-in mercenaries armed by us through proxies. The supposed atrocities committed by the Assad regime have been nothing but photo-ops in the best CIA fashion. I have no doubt that their have been many real atrocities, but those have been done by the "peace-loving" al-queda insurgents that we are backing in our utter stupidity. Nice to be a pawn of Israel, yes?


:thumbup:

The CIA and American NGOs are all over the world, meddling in every country's internal affairs, trying to remake them, peacefully or by force, into artificial, deracinated U.S.-approved "cultures" that embrace globalism, homosexuality, feminism and race-mixing and reject their traditions and heritage. Hollywood also plays a key role, as does the internet and corporate advertising, in spreading the poison.
 

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This entire Syrian "civil war" is the most obvious manufactured crisis ever. The people have never rebelled en mass against the Assad government. From the beginning, it's been shipped-in mercenaries armed by us through proxies. The supposed atrocities committed by the Assad regime have been nothing but photo-ops in the best CIA fashion. I have no doubt that their have been many real atrocities, but those have been done by the "peace-loving" al-queda insurgents that we are backing in our utter stupidity. Nice to be a pawn of Israel, yes?


I'm all for the evil empire wasting it's resources in third world shi+ holes, you know what happens when enough people convince congress to stop meddling in foreign countries?
I think they start stirring up stuff here and sending out troops to settle problems with all of those white racists that we hear so much about. There is no way to stop these asinine foreign interventions. The people (israel&others) that control how these decisions are made have no incentive not to do them. Who's going to stop them? How? It's going to go on forever, or until it can't. I think we just have to get used to it.
 

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http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.co...hemical-weapons-any-military-aggression-syria

Syrian Foreign Minister: Syria has never used chemical weapons…any military aggression on Syria comes in interest of Israel

The Syrian Armed Forces did not use the chemical weapons as no country in the world would use the weapons of mass destruction against its own people, Deputy Prime Minister, Foreign and Expatriates Minister, Walid al-Moallem, said on Tuesday.

Syria is committed to offering all facilitations and ensuring the safety of
the UN inspection mission into chemical weapons use, al-Moallem added at a press conference in Damascus.

"Syria has immediately agreed to the UN requests and there was no delay, and I say to U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry that we are not obstructing UN inspectors' work," Minister al-Moallem, added .

"I assure the residents of Damascus that the objective of the Armed Forces' military efforts taking place currently is to ensure their safety, so the endeavor will not be halted, and they {the West and the US} will not limit the Army's victory," the Foreign Minister said.

He added that what is circulated by the US administration's officials on the use of the chemical weapons is "categorically baseless", as we transparently dealt with the UN investigation mission and expressed commitment to reveal the truth.

The Foreign Minister said, "Since the beginning, we have doubted the U.S. intentions towards Geneva Conference, and we told our Russian friends we trust you but we do not trust the USA because it does not want a political solution and the reason is clear which is that Israel does not want this solution, but rather it wants the continuation of violence and terrorism."








 

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This entire Syrian "civil war" is the most obvious manufactured crisis ever. The people have never rebelled en mass against the Assad government. From the beginning, it's been shipped-in mercenaries armed by us through proxies. The supposed atrocities committed by the Assad regime have been nothing but photo-ops in the best CIA fashion. I have no doubt that their have been many real atrocities, but those have been done by the "peace-loving" al-queda insurgents that we are backing in our utter stupidity. Nice to be a pawn of Israel, yes?
Couldn't have said it any better. Destabilization is the name of the game plus making billions for the military industrial complex.
 

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This entire Syrian "civil war" is the most obvious manufactured crisis ever. The people have never rebelled en mass against the Assad government. From the beginning, it's been shipped-in mercenaries armed by us through proxies. The supposed atrocities committed by the Assad regime have been nothing but photo-ops in the best CIA fashion. I have no doubt that their have been many real atrocities, but those have been done by the "peace-loving" al-queda insurgents that we are backing in our utter stupidity. Nice to be a pawn of Israel, yes?

this! excellent post.

if i recall correctly, it was admitted (or leaked) a couple of months ago that the US had incorporated and planned a false flag operation, led by the usual suspects ("rebels" led and funded by the CIA, etc.) to launch a chemical weapon attack in Syria and make it look like Assad did it. of course, this didn't get much mainstream attention and quickly went down the memory hole.

if i get the time to go back and find it, i'll post a link. but it's obviously stupid for Assad to pull a stunt like that. so why, when he would have nothing to gain and everything to lose by doing so, would any intelligent person not doubt the "official" story of him attacking his only people with chemical weapons? it's one-party idiocy.
 

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More must reading by Paul Craig Roberts

America Totally Discredited

by Paul Craig Roberts

A foolish President Obama and moronic Secretary of State Kerry have handed the United States government its worst diplomatic defeat in history and destroyed the credibility of the Office of the President, the Department of State, and the entire executive branch. All are exposed as a collection of third-rate liars.

Intoxicated with hubris from past successful lies and deceptions used to destroy Iraq and Libya, Obama thought the US “superpower,†the “exceptional†and “indispensable†country, could pull it off again, this time in Syria.

But the rest of the world has learned to avoid Washington’s rush to war when there is no evidence. A foolish Obama was pushed far out on the limb by an incompetent and untrustworthy National Security Advisor, Susan Rice, and the pack of neoconservatives that support her, and the British Parliament cut the limb off.

What kind of fool would put himself in that vulnerable position?

Now Obama stands alone, isolated, trying to back away from his threat to attack without authorization from anyone–not from the UN, not from NATO, not from Congress who he ignored–a sovereign country. Under the Nuremberg Standard military aggression is a war crime. Washington has until now got away with its war crimes by cloaking them in UN or NATO approval. Despite these “approvals,†they remain war crimes.

But his National Security Advisor and the neocon warmongers are telling him that he must prove that he is a Real Man who can stand alone and commit war crimes all by himself without orchestrated cover from the UN or NATO or a cowardly US Congress. It is up to Obama, they insist, to establish for all time that the President of the United States is above all law. He, and he alone is the “decider,†the Caesar, who determines what is permissible. The Caesar of the “sole superpower†must now assert his authority over all law or Washington’s hegemony over the world is lost.

As I noted in an earlier column today, if Obama goes it alone, he will be harassed for the rest of his life as a war criminal who dares not leave the US. Indeed, a looming economic collapse could so alter the power and attitude of the United States that Obama could find himself brought to justice for his war crimes.

Regardless, the United States government has lost its credibility throughout the world and will never regain it, unless the Bush and Obama regimes are arrested and put on trial for their war crimes.

Obama’s destruction of US credibility goes far beyond diplomacy. It is likely that this autumn or winter, and almost certainly in 2014, the US will face severe economic crisis.

The long-term abuse of the US dollar’s reserve currency role by the Federal Reserve and US Treasury, the never-ending issuance of new debt and printing of dollars to finance it, the focus of US economic policy on bailing out the “banks too big to fail†regardless of the adverse impact on domestic and world economies and holders of US Treasury debt, the awaiting political crisis of the unresolved deficit and debt ceiling limit that will greet Congress’ return to Washington in September, collapsing job opportunities and a sinking economy all together present the government in Washington with a crisis that is too large for the available intelligence, knowledge, and courage to master.

When the proverbial hits the fan, the incompetent and corrupt Federal Reserve and the incompetent and corrupt US Treasury will have no more credibility than Obama and John Kerry.

The rest of the world–especially Washington’s bullied NATO puppet states–will take great delight in the discomfort of “the world’s sole superpower†that has been running on hubris ever since the Soviet collapse.

The world is not going to bail out Washington, now universally hated, with currency swaps, more loans, and foreign aid. Americans are going to pay heavily for their negligence, their inattention, their unconcern, and their ignorant belief that nothing can go wrong for them and that anything that does is temporary.

Two decades of jobs offshoring has left the US with a third world labor force employed in lowly paid domestic nontradable services, a workforce comparable to India’s of 40 years ago. Already the “world’s sole superpower†is afflicted with a large percentage of its population dependent on government welfare for survival. As the economy closes down, the government’s ability to meet the rising demands of survival diminishes. The rich will demand that the poor be sacrificed in the interest of the rich. And the political parties will comply.

Is this the reason that Homeland Security, a Nazi Gestapo institution, now has a large and growing para-military force equipped with tanks, drones, and billions of rounds of ammunition?

How long will it be before American citizens are shot down in their streets by “their†government as occurs frequently in Washington’s close allies in Egypt, Turkey, Bahrain?

Americans have neglected the requirements of liberty. Americans are so patriotic and so gullible that all the government has to do is to wrap itself in the flag, and the people, or too many of them, believe whatever lie the government tells. And the gullible people will defend the government’s lie to their death, indeed, to the death of the entire world.

If Americans keep believing the government’s lies, they have no future. If truth be known, Americans have already lost a livable future. The neocons’ “American Century†is over before it begun.

Update: I have heard from educated and aware friends that the presstitute media on the evening news are beating the drums for war. This shows what paid whores the US media is and their total disconnect from reality. Anyone who wastes their time on the US media is a brainwashed idiot, a danger to humanity.

Update 8:52 PM August 30: Is the White House idiot going to be a victim of his own careless presidential appointments? Does he have no one to tell him how to escape the dilemma his moronic Secretary of State and National Security Advisor have put him in? Someone needs to tell the WH Fool that he must say that he accepts the conclusion of the world community that there is not sufficient evidence for launching a military attack on Syria and killing even more people than were killed in the alleged, but unproven, chemical attack, and that he awaits further and better evidence.

God help the moron and the unfortunate country that the fool represents.

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2013/08/30/america-totally-discredited-paul-craig-roberts/
 

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Thanks Don. Great article again by PCR. He is a bright light in these dark days.
Heck of a wonderful looking forward to that we all have :rip:...Looks like we are toast after Sept.9
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/09/02/obama-ww3/

The ONLY thing to even begin solving any of this is a total coup against a godless whore of a gov't, formerly known as the usa, with the most force ever seen in history. Too bad there aint enough "Few Good Men" in reality.
 

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This particular article, written by an internationally credible writer, tells you all that you need to know about this set-up chemical attack, and the plans for what the "rebels" are to do after the US-led bombing. It's a travesty.

Did the White House Help Plan the Syrian Chemical Attack?


by Yossef Bodansky

There is a growing volume of new evidence from numerous sources in the Middle East — mostly affiliated with the Syrian opposition and its sponsors and supporters — which makes a very strong case, based on solid circumstantial evidence, that the August 21, 2013, chemical strike in the Damascus suburbs was indeed a pre-meditated provocation by the Syrian opposition.

The extent of US foreknowledge of this provocation needs further investigation because available data puts the “horror” of the Barack Obama White House in a different and disturbing light.

On August 13-14, 2013, Western-sponsored opposition forces in Turkey started advance preparations for a major and irregular military surge. Initial meetings between senior opposition military commanders and representatives of Qatari, Turkish, and US Intelligence [“Mukhabarat Amriki”] took place at the converted Turkish military garrison in Antakya, Hatay Province, used as the command center and headquarters of the Free Syrian Army (FSA) and their foreign sponsors. Very senior opposition commanders who had arrived from Istanbul briefed the regional commanders of an imminent escalation in the fighting due to “a war-changing development” which would, in turn, lead to a US-led bombing of Syria.

The opposition forces had to quickly prepare their forces for exploiting the US-led bombing in order to march on Damascus and topple the Bashar al-Assad Government, the senior commanders explained. The Qatari and Turkish intelligence officials assured the Syrian regional commanders that they would be provided with plenty of weapons for the coming offensive.

Indeed, unprecedented weapons distribution started in all opposition camps in Hatay Province on August 21-23, 2013. In the Reyhanli area alone, opposition forces received well in excess of 400 tons of weapons, mainly anti-aircraft weaponry from shoulder-fired missiles to ammunition for light-guns and machineguns. The weapons were distributed from store-houses controlled by Qatari and Turkish Intelligence under the tight supervision of US Intelligence.

These weapons were loaded on more than 20 trailer-trucks which crossed into northern Syria and distributed the weapons to several depots. Follow-up weapon shipments, also several hundred tons, took place over the weekend of August 24-25, 2013, and included mainly sophisticated anti-tank guided missiles and rockets. Opposition officials in Hatay said that these weapon shipments were “the biggest” they had received “since the beginning of the turmoil more than two years ago”. The deliveries from Hatay went to all the rebel forces operating in the Idlib-to-Aleppo area, including the al-Qaida affiliated jihadists (who constitute the largest rebel forces in the area).

Several senior officials from both the Syrian opposition and sponsoring Arab states stressed that these weapon deliveries were specifically in anticipation for exploiting the impact of imminent bombing of Syria by the US and the Western allies. The latest strategy formulation and coordination meetings took place on August 26, 2013. The political coordination meeting took place in Istanbul and was attended by US Amb. Robert Ford.
More important were the military and operational coordination meetings at the Antakya garrison. Senior Turkish, Qatari, and US Intelligence officials attended in addition to the Syrian senior (opposition) commanders. The Syrians were informed that bombing would start in a few days.

“The opposition was told in clear terms that action to deter further use of chemical weapons by the Assad regime could come as early as in the next few days,” a Syrian participant in the meeting said. Another Syrian participant said that he was convinced US bombing was scheduled to begin on Thursday, August 29, 2013. Several participants — both Syrian and Arab — stressed that the assurances of forthcoming bombing were most explicit even as formally Obama is still undecided.

The descriptions of these meetings raise the question of the extent of foreknowledge of US Intelligence, and therefore, the Obama White House. All the sources consulted — both Syrian and Arab — stressed that officials of the “Mukhabarat Amriki” actively participated in the meetings and briefings in Turkey. Therefore, at the very least, they should have known that the opposition leaders were anticipating “a war-changing development”: that is, a dramatic event which would provoke a US-led military intervention.

The mere fact that weapon storage sites under the tight supervision of US Intelligence were opened up and about a thousand tons of high-quality weapons were distributed to the opposition indicates that US Intelligence anticipated such a provocation and the opportunity for the Syrian opposition to exploit the impact of the ensuing US and allied bombing. Hence, even if the Obama White House did not know in advance of the chemical provocation, they should have concluded, or at the very least suspected, that the chemical attack was most likely the “war-changing development” anticipated by the opposition leaders as provocation of US-led bombing. Under such circumstances, the Obama White House should have refrained from rushing head-on to accuse Assad’s Damascus and threaten retaliation, thus making the Obama White House at the very least complicit after the act.
Meanwhile, additional data from Damascus about the actual chemical attack increases the doubts about Washington’s version of events. Immediately after the attack, three hospitals of Doctors Without Borders (MSF: médecins sans frontières) in the greater Damascus area treated more than 3,600 Syrians affected by the chemical attack, and 355 of them died. MSF performed tests on the vast majority of those treated.
MSF director of operations Bart Janssens summed up the findings: “MSF can neither scientifically confirm the cause of these symptoms nor establish who is responsible for the attack. However, the reported symptoms of the patients, in addition to the epidemiological pattern of the events — characterized by the massive influx of patients in a short period of time, the origin of the patients, and the contamination of medical and first aid workers — strongly indicate mass exposure to a neurotoxic agent.” Simply put, even after testing some 3,600 patients, MSF failed to confirm that sarin was the cause of the injuries. According to MSF, the cause could have been nerve agents like sarin, concentrated riot control gas, or even high-concentration pesticides. Moreover, opposition reports that there was distinct stench during the attack suggest that it could have come from the “kitchen sarin” used by jihadist groups (as distinct from the odorless military-type sarin) or improvised agents like pesticides.

Some of the evidence touted by the Obama White House is questionable at best.
A small incident in Beirut raises big questions. A day after the chemical attack, Lebanese fixers working for the “Mukhabarat Amriki” succeeded to convince a Syrian male who claimed to have been injured in the chemical attack to seek medical aid in Beirut in return for a hefty sum that would effectively settle him for life. The man was put into an ambulance and transferred overnight to the Farhat Hospital in Jib Janine, Beirut. The Obama White House immediately leaked friendly media that “the Lebanese Red Cross announced that test results found traces of sarin gas in his blood.” However, this was news to Lebanese intelligence and Red Cross officials.
According to senior intelligence officials, “Red Cross Operations Director George Kettaneh told [them] that the injured Syrian fled the hospital before doctors were able to test for traces of toxic gas in his blood.” Apparently, the patient declared that he had recovered from his nausea and no longer needed medical treatment. The Lebanese security forces are still searching for the Syrian patient and his honorarium.
On August 24, 2013, Syrian Commando forces acted on intelligence about the possible perpetrators of the chemical attack and raided a cluster of rebel tunnels in the Damascus suburb of Jobar. Canisters of toxic material were hit in the fierce fire-fight as several Syrian soldiers suffered from suffocation and “some of the injured are in a critical condition”.

The Commando eventually seized an opposition warehouse containing barrels full of chemicals required for mixing “kitchen sarin”, laboratory equipment, as well as a large number of protective masks. The Syrian Commando also captured several improvised explosive devices, RPG rounds, and mortar shells. The same day, at least four HizbAllah fighters operating in Damascus near Ghouta were hit by chemical agents at the very same time the Syrian Commando unit was hit while searching a group of rebel tunnels in Jobar. Both the Syrian and the HizbAllah forces were acting on intelligence information about the real perpetrators of the chemical attack. Damascus told Moscow the Syrian troops were hit by some form of a nerve agent and sent samples (blood, tissues, and soil) and captured equipment to Russia.

Several Syrian leaders, many of whom are not Bashar al-Assad supporters and are even his sworn enemies, are now convinced that the Syrian opposition is responsible for the August 21, 2013, chemical attack in the Damascus area in order to provoke the US and the allies into bombing Assad’s Syria. Most explicit and eloquent is Saleh Muslim, the head of the Kurdish Democratic Union Party (PYD) which has been fighting the Syrian Government. Muslim doubts Assad would have used chemical weapons when he was winning the civil war.
“The regime in Syria … has chemical weapons, but they wouldn’t use them around Damascus, five km from the [UN] committee which is investigating chemical weapons. Of course they are not so stupid as to do so,” Muslim told Reuters on August 27, 2013. He believes the attack was “aimed at framing Assad and provoking an international reaction”. Muslim is convinced that “some other sides who want to blame the Syrian regime, who want to show them as guilty and then see action” is responsible for the chemical attack. The US was exploiting the attack to further its own anti-Assad policies and should the UN inspectors find evidence that the rebels were behind the attack, then “everybody would forget it”, Muslim shrugged. “Who is the side who would be punished? Are they are going to punish the Emir of Qatar or the King of Saudi Arabia, or Mr Erdo?an of Turkey?”
And there remain the questions: Given the extent of the involvement of the “Mukhabarat Amriki” in opposition activities, how is that US Intelligence did not know in advance about the opposition’s planned use of chemical weapons in Damascus?

It is a colossal failure.

And if they did know and warned the Obama White House, why then the sanctimonious rush to blame the Assad Administration?

Moreover, how can the Obama Administration continue to support and seek to empower the opposition which had just intentionally killed some 1,300 innocent civilians in order to provoke a US military intervention?

Yossef Bodansky, Senior Editor, GIS/Defense & Foreign Affairs
 

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US Senate committee backs use of force

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23967190

A US Senate panel has approved the use of military force in Syria, in response to an alleged chemical weapons attack.

By 10-7, the Committee on Foreign Relations moved the measure to a full Senate vote, expected next week. The proposal allows the use of force in Syria for 60 days with the possibility to extend it for 30 days.
 
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USA's wars in Afghanistan and Iraq have resulted in the deaths of roughly 2 Million Caucasians, many of which would be considered white. Please take the time and Google image search some Iraqis, and you'll see, they look *white*. Not only do they look white, but many of them are white. There isn't much difference in appearance between Iraqis, and say Italians or Spanish. USA's wars in Afghanistan and Iraq have also resulted in the deaths of roughly 10,000 American servicemen who are mainly white, not to mention many more (probably upwards to 50,000+) wounded.

These wars are not benefiting white people in the USA, or whites or Caucasians in the Middle East. It's important to understand that American foreign policy is often centered around Zionist interests (Obama himself even admits that), and the group that is deriving the most benefit from these conflicts in the Middle East, are Zionists and the State of Israel.

The sad part is that the majority of the American public seems stupid enough to believe, time and time again (even when the reasons for going into previous wars have been found incorrect and unsubstantiated), the "reasons" for going to war and killing more Caucasians and whites in the Middle East.

USA truly is a disgusting society. On the one hand, they worship blacks in their everyday life, media, sports, and on the other hand they are slaughtering Whites and Caucasians in the Middle East.

The worst part is when you talk to white Canadians/Americans (and I have, I'm speaking from experience) some of them will say things like "Arabs killing other Arabs is a good thing". What they don't understand is that, many people in Iraq, Syria are WHITE. Then to top things off, these exact same people who say comments like that, are often the biggest black worshippers out there. Im speaking from personal experience, Ive seen this many times in daily conversation.

I honestly just can't even take any more of these wars. I do respect proper acting, pro-white, anti-Zionist Americans (such as those on this site), but the truth is the majority of Americans are lost causes and they're anti-white whether they know it or not. Sorry to say, but when I see things like this, it makes me glad about what happened in the Boston bombings. It is sad for the victims that died, and I'm not happy that anyone died, but on one hand I can sympathize with the bomber's motives. USA is a sick society and someone needs to stand up to it. It is sad that a young boy died in the Boston bombings, but you know, there are thousands of dead boys (many of who are white) in the Middle East and no one seems to care about that...
 
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Please have a look at this link: http://uprootedpalestinian.wordpress.com/2013/03/22/iraqi-birth-defects-worse-than-hiroshima/

It highlights the large amounts of birth defects (children being born with 2 heads, 3 arms, organs exposed, etc.), cancers (all different types), and diseases Iraqi children are being born with in areas of Iraq which had intense fighting. The city of Fallujah in Iraq is known as being bad, and having as high as 1 in 10 children born with a birth defect. This will probably continue for years.

If you look at the pics of kids with birth defects, many of them are white, very light skinned and look white. Could easily be an Italian or Spanish kid. It's heartbreaking.

There has been no direct compensation from the American government to these Iraqi families yet. The American government has claimed that it hasn't been proven that these birth defects were caused by American weapons, yet, some American soliders have stepped forward and admitted that they believe the weapons caused these problems. Some soldiers as well, are experiencing medical problems due to the ingredients and uranium associated with weaponry.

So, basically, USA is a society that has destroyed 2 countries, slaughtered millions of Whites and Caucasian people in the Middle East, permanently worships blacks in its own country, and now we're discussing another war, which will no doubt result in the deaths of more whites and Caucasians.

And of course, white Americans seem to be agreeing and supporting another war against light skinned people in the Middle East.

What a disgusting, perverted, anti-White society USA is. 2 Thumbs down and the world would be a better place without it.
 

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Please have a look at this link: http://uprootedpalestinian.wordpress.com/2013/03/22/iraqi-birth-defects-worse-than-hiroshima/

It highlights the large amounts of birth defects (children being born with 2 heads, 3 arms, organs exposed, etc.), cancers (all different types), and diseases Iraqi children are being born with in areas of Iraq which had intense fighting. The city of Fallujah in Iraq is known as being bad, and having as high as 1 in 10 children born with a birth defect. This will probably continue for years.

If you look at the pics of kids with birth defects, many of them are white, very light skinned and look white. Could easily be an Italian or Spanish kid. It's heartbreaking.

There has been no direct compensation from the American government to these Iraqi families yet. The American government has claimed that it hasn't been proven that these birth defects were caused by American weapons, yet, some American soliders have stepped forward and admitted that they believe the weapons caused these problems. Some soldiers as well, are experiencing medical problems due to the ingredients and uranium associated with weaponry.

So, basically, USA is a society that has destroyed 2 countries, slaughtered millions of Whites and Caucasian people in the Middle East, permanently worships blacks in its own country, and now we're discussing another war, which will no doubt result in the deaths of more whites and Caucasians.

And of course, white Americans seem to be agreeing and supporting another war against light skinned people in the Middle East.

What a disgusting, perverted, anti-White society USA is. 2 Thumbs down and the world would be a better place without it.


I did not look at the link B S2 because I get so sickened by these wars for Israel. That's what they are. And it's the children casualties that disturb me the most.

I want to spit when I hear BSPN radio hosts always talking about our troops "fighting for our (USA) freedom all over the world...". Does anyone besides people like us here at Castefootball understand even the absurdity of that statement and that idiotic mentality? What in the flying heck are our soldiers doing way the FFH around the other side of the globe when our borders should be closed tight as a drum here? Close 'em tight, bring ALL our troops home (we don't need to be the Police of the World), build up our defenses, cut ALL ties with Israel, take care of American Constitutional causes, throw all ZOG scum out of the nation by force and drop them in the ocean as shark bait, take over ALL the airwaves (TV and radio, shortwave, etc.) at least temporarly, and with that open format speak OPENLY to White people and what is best for them IN REALITY (not what the ruling elitist juden self-serving, diabolical, brain-washing rats say is to be the "norm").

Then, and only then, can we have the beginnings of a reformation and no one in their right mind would dare screw with us. Total coup or we're total toast. Even if it's a slow death, we will meet our death if we don't have this overthrow and have it soon.
 

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I want to spit when I hear BSPN radio hosts always talking about our troops "fighting for our (USA) freedom all over the world...". Does anyone besides people like us here at Castefootball understand even the absurdity of that statement and that idiotic mentality?

I dont think many people besides us understand brother. I know what you mean about wanting to spit. Im at rodeos every weekend of the summer (my son rides steers, and Jr bulls) and before every single event there is a long drawn out honoring of the troops. All these rodeo people are a cut above the rest of society, but when it comes to Israels wars they are on board all the way. They just absolutely dont get it. The typical attitude is that our troops are really protecting us from terrorism by being all in the middle east. I hear all the time "God bless our troops for fighting overseas so we can be free". Its quite disheartening.
 

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I dont think many people besides us understand brother. I know what you mean about wanting to spit. Im at rodeos every weekend of the summer (my son rides steers, and Jr bulls) and before every single event there is a long drawn out honoring of the troops. All these rodeo people are a cut above the rest of society, but when it comes to Israels wars they are on board all the way. They just absolutely dont get it. The typical attitude is that our troops are really protecting us from terrorism by being all in the middle east. I hear all the time "God bless our troops for fighting overseas so we can be free". Its quite disheartening.

I know exactly what you mean WW. I find that many older White men who're socially conservative (& most times racially aware...sans the caste system) are z10nista neoCON'd "hawks". They're always buying into the propaganda about the muhamedan "boogeymen", etc.

There's a man an older man (late 60s) at my church who's a Godly, family man & successful business owner. However, he's always spouting off about "tha' muzzlemz" this or that. He's also a staunch z10nist ("Friends of Israel" member) & always vocal about the troops "fighting for our freedom" (in the middle east). He's otherwise very nice, down to earth & hard working...so I avoid calling him out on being NeoCON'd. It's tough at times though. ;-)
 
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