UFC 100 - Lesnar vs. Mir

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Gentlemen, here's the card for Saturday's UFC 100 in "Lost Wages"

Main card
Heavyweight Championship bout: Champion Brock Lesnar vs. Interim Champion Frank Mir
Welterweight Championship bout: Georges St-Pierre vs. Thiago Alves
Welterweight bout: Jon Fitch vs. Paulo Thiago
Middleweight bout: Dan Henderson vs. Michael Bisping
Middleweight bout: Yoshihiro Akiyama vs. Alan Belcher

Preliminary card
Light Heavyweight bout: Mark Coleman vs. Stephan Bonnar
Lightweight bout: Mac Danzig vs. Jim Miller
Light Heavyweight bout: Jon Jones vs. Jake O'Brien
Welterweight bout: Dong Hyun Kim vs. TJ Grant
Middleweight bout: C.B. Dollaway vs. Tom Lawlor
Lightweight bout: Matt Grice vs. Shannon Gugerty

I'll be pulling for Lesnar, GSP, Henderson, Fitch, Belcher, Bonnar, Danzig, O'Brien, Grant and Dollaway.

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I see:

Lesnar TKO Mir (though I am cheering for Frank)
Bisping UD Henderson
GSP TKO Alves
Fitch SUB Thiago
Akiyama UD Belcher

I'll be cheering for O'Brien over Jones but Jones should win.Edited by: Liverlips
 

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WHITE PROWESS, WHITE POWER, WHITE RULE HAS BEEN STAMPED AND KICKED INTO EVERYONE'S FACE TONIGHT!!!!! BROCK LESNAR JUST TOOK A BASEBALL BAT AND SHOVED IT UP FRANCISCO SANTOS' ARSE AND SPAT IN HIS FACE AFTERWARDS!!! IF YOU SAW IT YOU SAW LESNAR BEAT THAT MOUTHY BASTARD'S FACE BLOOD RAW!!!

...Then he told off the crowd and gave everyone the finger and said he was going to drink a Coors Light because Bud Light wouldn't pay him. And then he said: "Well, hell I might just go home and lay on top of my wife also..." Nobody could control him. He was so pumped up he spat at the camera and banged his head into the cage. I think if the police had shown up with tasers he would have torn the darts out of his body and shoved them up the cops' asrs and pulled the trigger!!!

I have to admit, it has been a long time since I've seen a white man really assert himself to such a large public audience. He was crass but that really was refreshing!
 

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GSP was wonderful with his takedowns 9 in 5 rounds! He faced a dangerous striker and a real strong dude but still bob and weaved and pounced for a takedown at every chance he got. He pulled his groin in round 3 but nobody would have known if we had not heard him say that to his corner, a true warrior! I am SOOO glad Dan Henderson laid the wood to the mouthy brit Bisping! That right was vicious and the gorilla fist after added insult. Both GSP and Henderson are class acts. (The same cannot be said for Lesnar). I thought Alan Belcher was robbed he had better strikes but the Japanese fighter did have more takedowns. As for Mir i was sad to see B-Rock Lesnar negro athlete wannabe beat him. His size was just too much. Edited by: celticdb15
 

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Lesnar's actions after the fight was over were pretty disgraceful, it's the kind of thing I would expect from a black fighter. Maybe that's what Lesnar envisions himself as, I don't know.
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In any event, the rest of the evening was solid, a lot of good fights, including the KO by Henderson and of course complete domination by GSP, the best fighter in the world, pound-for-pound, IMO.
 

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Just heard Lesnar on ESPN apologizing for his actions, I wonder if Dana White had a chat with him?

In any event, one thing I must admit, the guy is a beast. He destroyed Mir tonight, and looks like he'll hold that belt for a long time.
 

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1. Lesnar is a d**k, but he is our d**k. The caste system isn't comprised of "experts" who say whites are bad sportsmen. It is comprised of geeks who say blacks are better athletes than non-blacks. Luckily, in the fighting sports, we can always put that to the test. There are no good black heavyweights, but if a great black hope does arrive, I'll have no problem cheering for Brock, even if he is a bad sport.

2. Watching GSP in the ring is like watching a great artist paint a picture or a great composer writing a symphony.

3. Frank Mir is a 100% white man. Saying Mir (with his blue eyes and light brown hair) is not white is like saying Sammy Sosa is not black. I was cheering for him but it was not his night.

4. John Fitch looks set to take over at 170 if/when GSP leaves for 185.

5. The next great black hope is Jon Jones, who subbed O'Brien last night. I'm not overly impressed, though he has good judo and is improving his wild striking. Let's see if he can get by Hamill or Jardine before believing the hype.Edited by: Liverlips
 

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I enjoyed Brock's comments after the beat down of Mir. The Bud Light and laying on his wife comments were good comedy. Nothing is going to enrage people like a white man who is in your face and they can't do anything about it. I despise the fact that he thinks he is built like a black man, but nobody saw a black man work over Frank Mir last night. They saw a giant, Nordic white man (albeit with a penis tattoo on his chest) manhandle a great heavyweight fighter, ending the fight without a scratch on him.

I don't care much for Bisping, either, but he is a white European, who's forefathers have a long history of military service in wartime. I for one wish he'd have performed better. I like Henderson but the fact is a Native American brutally KO'd what was supposed to be the best of British fighters. If you're rooting for 'white' fighters then you should be disappointed Bisping lost, or at least that he lost in such spectacular fashion.
 

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So who is left in the UFC HW division that poses a legit threat to Lesnar?

Carwin? Gonzaga?

Hopefully the UFC can cobble together something workable for Emelianenko. Failure to do so would be a tragedy.

Well done GSP! With a pulled groin no less. Alves walked into the cage at 190. 190! Georges still manhandled him. The #1 P4P slot is a tie between Fedor and GSP. Silva's failure to stop journeyman Cote' and lackluster performance against Leites relegate him to second place in the debate.

The Jones hype wagon is getting ready to start rolling. We'll see. His kryptonite is out there.

Addy Byrd scored the Belcher fight 30-27. How many more people is she going to be allowed to rob?

Fitch is a beast, always has been. Were it not for GSP he would be the one getting the Gatorade deal.

Poor Bisping. Henderson has been making noise about wanting a rematch with Silva.

A good night of fights.

I wasn't really put off by Lesnar's post-fight bravado. Like Maple Leaf said, it was refreshing to see a white male standing tall for a change.
 

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It doesn't bother me if an American Indian has some success. They haven't had much to cheer about lately.

And they're certainly no threat to our overall position in the sport.
 

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Liverlips said:
1. Lesnar is a d**k, but he is our d**k. The caste system isn't comprised of "experts" who say whites are bad sportsmen. It is comprised of geeks who say blacks are superior athletes than non-blacks.

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Dana laid into Brock for his antics. Post fight BS aside, I was glad to see him win. I want to see Carwin smash "Brown Pride" Velasquez then take the strap from Lesnar. Good to see GSP and Fitch win too. Too bad O'Brien got sub'd. He seems too one-sided with the wrestling. Jones will get worked if he faces Jardine, Hamill, Forrest, etc.

White Shogun, good points re Bisping. He's a mouthy punk but is of White heritage. I do like Henderson because he's old-school, Team Quest & laid back, etc. I was torn for that particular fight (whereas 95-99% of the time, I always pull for the White/"more" White fighter).
 

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Its good that a white guy like Lesnar is now a legit Champ. A white american is officialy the biggest, best fighter in the world. (cept maybe Fedor ;)

MMA is growing, and i think soon people will care less about guys like tyson and lennox lewis and more about MMA guys like Brock and Fedor as " The Champ".
 

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Well, I'm certainly glad when any kind of champion -- and especially a heavyweight fighting champion -- is white, however all else being equal, I wish Lesnar would stop seeing himself as the "unique exception" to the general rule that only blacks can be good at sports, or have good physiques.

Good on him, for winning, however lots of fans will look at Brock in the same way they look at Eminem --

"Well, he's a good white boy, possibly even better than all the black boys too, but that doesn't change the fact that most white boys suck."

What this sport needs, of course, is a decently-behaved white guy who is just as good as (maybe even better than) Lesnar who can provide a contrast to these chimp-out antics.

If nothing else, it should prove that Lesnar isn't some kind of one-off freak..

You and I already know that of course, but that's because we're all white-conscious.

But what about the average dumbass fan?

Get some other white boys in there to win some belts. What? It's already happened, and continues to happen on a regular basis in the MMA?

Well surprise, surprise.

Seems only people who behave like jackasses can grip the public's imagination, and admiration.

That's Barrack Obama's America for you.
 

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Henderson is only 1/16th American Indian. Here is what it says on wiki:

"Dan Henderson is part English, Scottish, French and Native American."

Most fans (myself included) simply see him as a white fighter. Besides, American Indians are not a beneficiary of the caste system.

I hope Dan finishes what he started in the first round against Anderson Silva last year (he was dominating before he got caught).Edited by: Liverlips
 

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I loved the beating Henderson put on that loud mouth Brit. I love it when brash trash talking a-holes like that Brit get their head stomped on. Everyone at the bar was cringing at the replays of Henderson's late elbow crushing Bisping's head. Henderson is one of my favorite fighters as his califlower ears are just some of the worst I've ever seen.

As for Lesner I think he's just getting by right now on sheer strenght/size and his wrestling pedigree. His win was impressive nonetheless. I'm foaming at the mouth for a Fedor/Lesnar fight. Fedor would of course submission Brock in 2 minutes but hey I just want the world to know Fedor's standing as the greatest MMA fighter of all time.
 

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You know, whiteCB, I'm starting to think Lesnar has a shot against Fedor. Brock is at least the second best heavyweight on the planet. I can't see anyone else even coming close to Fedor.

If Lesnar keeps improving this might be a toss up in a year or two.
 

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These men get it:

White Shogun wrote:
"I enjoyed Brock's comments after the beat down of Mir. The Bud Light and laying on his wife comments were good comedy. Nothing is going to enrage people like a white man who is in your face and they can't do anything about it..."


And Poacher wrote: "...I wasn't really put off by Lesnar's post-fight bravado. Like Maple Leaf said, it was refreshing to see a white male standing tall for a change."


I understand some of you prefer modesty and good manners. I do too. But white athletes are always expected -no demanded- to be meek while the blacks and browns get full liberty to say what is on their mind. Look at Velasquez's tatoo, or Sanchez' "my people" comments, or the black "brother" bullsh*t. Mir has been talking like an cornhole for a long time and although he's white it's been pointed out here that he sees himself as Cuban and not white. His name is Francisco Santos III.
A big scary white man shut him up and that same big scary white man shut up the rest of the mma world and lying media. It was wild and refreshing and consumingly great to see a behemoth white man scare an entire television and official crew.

As for Dana White, he probably talked to Lesnar about the beer comment the most as Budweiser sponsored the event and the event's main star told Budweiser where to suck their slop. Indirectly though, Budweiser was paying Lesnar as his purse is partly paid for by the sponsors. So in that case, Lesnar was over the top as one should not offend a sponsor in public.
 

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White Shogun said:
I enjoyed Brock's comments after the beat down of Mir. The Bud Light and laying on his wife comments were good comedy. Nothing is going to enrage people like a white man who is in your face and they can't do anything about it. I despise the fact that he thinks he is built like a black man, but nobody saw a black man work over Frank Mir last night. They saw a giant, Nordic white man (albeit with a penis tattoo on his chest) manhandle a great heavyweight fighter, ending the fight without a scratch on him.

I don't care much for Bisping, either, but he is a white European, who's forefathers have a long history of military service in wartime. I for one wish he'd have performed better. I like Henderson but the fact is a Native American brutally KO'd what was supposed to be the best of British fighters. If you're rooting for 'white' fighters then you should be disappointed Bisping lost, or at least that he lost in such spectacular fashion.


I reserve the right not to root for a prick like Bisping even if he is more white than Henderson. Whites continue to dominate MMA and Henderson is seen as just another white guy with a tan and comports himself like a white man. Bisping had this beatdown coming but I will likely root for him in future fights if he tones down that British Hooligan act of his.
 

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guest301 said:
I don't care much for Bisping, either, but he is a white European, who's forefathers have a long history of military service in wartime. I for one wish he'd have performed better. I like Henderson but the fact is a Native American brutally KO'd what was supposed to be the best of British fighters. If you're rooting for 'white' fighters then you should be disappointed Bisping lost, or at least that he lost in such spectacular fashion.


I reserve the right not to root for a prick like Bisping even if he is more white than Henderson. Whites continue to dominate MMA and Henderson is seen as just another white guy with a tan and comports himself like a white man. Bisping had this beatdown coming but I will likely root for him in future fights if he tones down that British Hooligan act of his.[/QUOTE]

I totally am with you on this one guest301. I couldn't have said it better myself.
 

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Potential Lesnar opponent (& fellow hoss) Shane Carwin reacts to Brock's post-fight antics...

Carwin Reacts to Lesnar Victory

Tuesday, July 14, 2009
by Jake Rossen (jrossen@sherdog.com)

There's been no shortage of reactions to Brock Lesnar's decisive, debilitating victory over Frank Mir on Saturday -- my own father, who considers MMA a crooked melting pot of drug addicts and fixed fights, even brought it up -- but some opinions matter more than others.

Prime example: Shane Carwin, a concrete slab of a wrestler in his own right, who will fight Cain Velasquez on October 24 for the privilege to face Lesnar at a later date for the heavyweight title.

A clearly agitated Carwin posted a blog entry on his site Sunday taking Lesnar to task for his frothing behavior following the win, which included getting in Mir's face, flipping off the crowd and generally acting like a 280-pound man who can do whatever he likes. (Because he sort of is.)

"The flipping off of the fans that just lined your pocket with millions of dollars is just LAME,"Â￾ Carwin wrote. (Emphasis his.) "He may be a Champion but he has a long ways to go before he earns the respect of a Champion. The fans are why we do this Brock, this sport is not about fat paychecks and drama it is about hard work and sacrifice for a shot to do what you did last night."Â￾

Carwin will eventually face a rather sad irony: If he goes on to face Lesnar for the belt, he will benefit considerably from Lesnar's ability -- which is unmatched in the sport at this point -- to sell a fight. And I suspect that he won't turn down a percentage of pay-per-view purchases or a bonus on principle.

There's someone for everyone in this sport. If you like athletes with the disposition of a rabies victim, there's Lesnar; if you prefer someone who conducts himself as though he were in a library, there are plenty of options. Carwin, Dana White and others can scold Lesnar all they like: He's making them all money. And I don't hear anyone complaining about that.

**Reference article...Edited by: DixieDestroyer
 

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There is also a statement by Dana White that he is going to sooner or later sign Fedor and set up the superfight between Fedor and Brock. The UFC is the premier MMA organization in the world and it needs to have the best fighter in the world under contract.
 

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I don't like Brock's post fight antics at all and I am glad Dana tore into him while allegedly kicking in a bathroom stall to make his point with Brock who came out afterward and apologized. What I don't get is the critics getting on Brock for insulting his wife by saying he was"going to go home and get on top of my wife". How is that a insult, Sable is a former WWE Diva and a two time Playboy cover model, she lost her right to be offended and treated like a lady a long time ago.
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She was all smiles afterward and so I doubt she was offended at all but I can understand if other ladies watching the fight took umbrage at those comments.
 

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Dana only got pissed because Brock insulted Budweiser, a UFC sponsor. He never said anything to Tito or Grove or Nick Diaz when they were doing the grave digger routine, flipping off fans, or spouting BS into the mike during post fight interviews. Brock hit Dana in the wallet, that's why he got in trouble.

I'm not even sure how a guy like Dana, who drops F-Bombs every other word out of his mouth, can challenge anybody on their behavior or language. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!!
 

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guest301 said:
There is also a statement by Dana White that he is going to sooner or later sign Fedor and set up the superfight between Fedor and Brock. The UFC is the premier MMA organization in the world and it needs to have the best fighter in the world under contract.

I too read that Dana was talking about wanting and signing Fedor in the post match press conference. Fedor would finally shut up any remaining critics (UFC know-it-alls) and be recognized by the MSM.

Also never good to critize the advertisers that pay the bills. Brock should have never said anything about Budweiser (although I do think Coors/Coors Light is better) that is what got Dana the most upset.
 
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