The strong modern era

seattlefan11

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I would like to point the members of this forum to this thread on boxrec.com.

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http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=101907

The thread shows how many boxing bouts took place in each year since the mid 1800s. The data is provided by the boxrec owners themselves. (there is additional data spread throughout multiple pages of the thread)

Here is the data which shows how many professional boxing bouts took place worldwide each year:

1854 1
1858 1
1863 1
1866 2
1867 5
1868 3
1869 7
1870 2
1871 9
1872 48
1873 28
1874 24
1875 29
1876 26
1877 54
1878 50
1879 70
1880 42
1881 51
1882 149
1883 204
1884 387
1885 418
1886 842
1887 836
1888 700
1889 1009
1890 1094
1891 929
1892 1024
1893 991
1894 1120
1895 1525
1896 2481
1897 2425
1898 2812
1899 4006
1900 5055
1901 2978
1902 4906
1903 4417
1904 4788
1905 4736
1906 4792
1907 4419
1908 5661
1909 6981
1910 8766
1911 9835
1912 10239
1913 9835
1914 10763
1915 10490
1916 12591
1917 11223
1918 7947
1919 14807
1920 20493
1921 23239
1922 28101
1923 29322
1924 30075
1925 28366
1926 31456
1927 36071
1928 39183
1929 41259
1930 44758
1931 43952
1932 38852
1933 35683
1934 32933
1935 37445
1936 31104
1937 28327
1938 26147
1939 23240
1940 18570
1941 16715
1942 15589
1943 15334
1944 17561
1945 19180
1946 33044
1947 31968
1948 27103
1949 24811
1950 21293
1951 18483
1952 17523
1953 16696
1954 16599
1955 15238
1956 14057
1957 13744
1958 13890
1959 13038
1960 12635
1961 12277
1962 11629
1963 10549
1964 9974
1965 9614
1966 10062
1967 9826
1968 10009
1969 10123
1970 11449
1971 11559
1972 10599
1973 10590
1974 9636
1975 9657
1976 9746
1977 11246
1978 11110
1979 12231
1980 12704
1981 14186
1982 15488
1983 14921
1984 12811
1985 12840
1986 11599
1987 12013
1988 12533
1989 13338
1990 13739
1991 12982
1992 13517
1993 14498
1994 13861
1995 14350
1996 14357
1997 15175
1998 14368
1999 15431
2000 15273
2001 16206
2002 17104
2003 17251
2004 18486
2005 19632
2006 20163
2007 20734
2008 20674
2009 20999
2010 21209
2011 22753
2012 22685
2013 23396
2014 22515
2015 25090
2016 26873



Now this is interesting stuff huh?

If we look at this data, we can come to several conclusions:

1. The 1920s-1940s were called "The Golden Age" for a reason - this period had the highest amount of boxing bouts than any other period.
2. The 1960s and 1970s, ie. the Ali Era, was one of the weakest eras in the last century of boxing in terms of competition.
3. Today's era, ie. The International Era is second only to the Golden Age of boxing in terms of total competition.

Yet every media outlet tries to tell us that 'boxing is dead' and today's era lacks competition.
 

Arerequired

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Food for thought.

I remember someone pointing out the technical inferiority of many Ali-era boxers and the poor skills of top white heavyweights around that time.
 

shamrock

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I would like to point the members of this forum to this thread on boxrec.com.

Code:
http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=101907

The thread shows how many boxing bouts took place in each year since the mid 1800s. The data is provided by the boxrec owners themselves. (there is additional data spread throughout multiple pages of the thread)

Here is the data which shows how many professional boxing bouts took place worldwide each year:

1854 1
1858 1
1863 1
1866 2
1867 5
1868 3
1869 7
1870 2
1871 9
1872 48
1873 28
1874 24
1875 29
1876 26
1877 54
1878 50
1879 70
1880 42
1881 51
1882 149
1883 204
1884 387
1885 418
1886 842
1887 836
1888 700
1889 1009
1890 1094
1891 929
1892 1024
1893 991
1894 1120
1895 1525
1896 2481
1897 2425
1898 2812
1899 4006
1900 5055
1901 2978
1902 4906
1903 4417
1904 4788
1905 4736
1906 4792
1907 4419
1908 5661
1909 6981
1910 8766
1911 9835
1912 10239
1913 9835
1914 10763
1915 10490
1916 12591
1917 11223
1918 7947
1919 14807
1920 20493
1921 23239
1922 28101
1923 29322
1924 30075
1925 28366
1926 31456
1927 36071
1928 39183
1929 41259
1930 44758
1931 43952
1932 38852
1933 35683
1934 32933
1935 37445
1936 31104
1937 28327
1938 26147
1939 23240
1940 18570
1941 16715
1942 15589
1943 15334
1944 17561
1945 19180
1946 33044
1947 31968
1948 27103
1949 24811
1950 21293
1951 18483
1952 17523
1953 16696
1954 16599
1955 15238
1956 14057
1957 13744
1958 13890
1959 13038
1960 12635
1961 12277
1962 11629
1963 10549
1964 9974
1965 9614
1966 10062
1967 9826
1968 10009
1969 10123
1970 11449
1971 11559
1972 10599
1973 10590
1974 9636
1975 9657
1976 9746
1977 11246
1978 11110
1979 12231
1980 12704
1981 14186
1982 15488
1983 14921
1984 12811
1985 12840
1986 11599
1987 12013
1988 12533
1989 13338
1990 13739
1991 12982
1992 13517
1993 14498
1994 13861
1995 14350
1996 14357
1997 15175
1998 14368
1999 15431
2000 15273
2001 16206
2002 17104
2003 17251
2004 18486
2005 19632
2006 20163
2007 20734
2008 20674
2009 20999
2010 21209
2011 22753
2012 22685
2013 23396
2014 22515
2015 25090
2016 26873



Now this is interesting stuff huh?

If we look at this data, we can come to several conclusions:

1. The 1920s-1940s were called "The Golden Age" for a reason - this period had the highest amount of boxing bouts than any other period.
2. The 1960s and 1970s, ie. the Ali Era, was one of the weakest eras in the last century of boxing in terms of competition.
3. Today's era, ie. The International Era is second only to the Golden Age of boxing in terms of total competition.

Yet every media outlet tries to tell us that 'boxing is dead' and today's era lacks competition.

Perusing the site I just came across this fascinating info. I wish people here could hear all the gushing over Ali at Quora. The Ali lovers all try to outdo one another in their perverted love for this black person. They fall all over themselves in their rush to glorify the 1960s, 70s, and 80s boxers at the expense of the Klitschkos, Usyk, Lomachenko, GGG, and Fury, among others. Their man goal is to exalt Ali to the status of Sainthood.

Now make no mistake. These Ali sycophants at Quora (and elsewhere) are not black men, they are all white men. They are all baby boomers who grew up with stars in their eyes over Ali, the traitor. They call him a "great man" and they outdo each other in their efforts to describe how badly their black man would beat up on the Klitschkos, Fury, and other great heavyweights today. It is nauseating, but beyond nauseating because they are all WHITE sycophants.

Today we are seeing a monstrous Russian heathen destroy the beautiful nation and ultra-courageous people of Ukraine. The fact that some of the best boxers in the world have had their careers destroyed is a minor by-product of this, but yet another of the million demolitions being executed by this obscene cretin. And once the last of the Ukrainian resistance is eliminated, we know that along with Zelensky, the Klitschko brothers will be singled out for execution, and possibly Loma and Usyk as well.
 

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Perusing the site I just came across this fascinating info. I wish people here could hear all the gushing over Ali at Quora. The Ali lovers all try to outdo one another in their perverted love for this black person. They fall all over themselves in their rush to glorify the 1960s, 70s, and 80s boxers at the expense of the Klitschkos, Usyk, Lomachenko, GGG, and Fury, among others. Their man goal is to exalt Ali to the status of Sainthood.

Now make no mistake. These Ali sycophants at Quora (and elsewhere) are not black men, they are all white men. They are all baby boomers who grew up with stars in their eyes over Ali, the traitor. They call him a "great man" and they outdo each other in their efforts to describe how badly their black man would beat up on the Klitschkos, Fury, and other great heavyweights today. It is nauseating, but beyond nauseating because they are all WHITE sycophants.

Today we are seeing a monstrous Russian heathen destroy the beautiful nation and ultra-courageous people of Ukraine. The fact that some of the best boxers in the world have had their careers destroyed is a minor by-product of this, but yet another of the million demolitions being executed by this obscene cretin. And once the last of the Ukrainian resistance is eliminated, we know that along with Zelensky, the Klitschko brothers will be singled out for execution, and possibly Loma and Usyk as well.
I could see a situation where Vitali has his bunker surrounded and he is summarily executed as he surrenders. This has happened many times in history with dictators killing opposition leaders or media people, shoot a hopped up soldier could kill him too.

PS I don't think he will flee his office as he has too much spirit to do that. I hope I am wrong but being a vocal opposition leader puts a target on your head .
 

shamrock

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I could see a situation where Vitali has his bunker surrounded and he is summarily executed as he surrenders. This has happened many times in history with dictators killing opposition leaders or media people, shoot a hopped up soldier could kill him too.

PS I don't think he will flee his office as he has too much spirit to do that. I hope I am wrong but being a vocal opposition leader puts a target on your head .

True. There's no question that Ukraine has committed national suicide. Much as I am awed by their courage, I am depressed by this fatalistic enterprise. We took the powerful Brits on in 1775, but there was evidence that we could possibly win due to insanely long British supply lines. Besides, we weren't fighting barbarians bent on laying waste to everything.

I fear Vitali and Wlad are dead men, probably in just the scenario you described.
 

chris371

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A good friend of mine is ukrainian, excellent athlete and highly intelligent, and has more honour in his little toe than i have in my entire body.
Thankfully he is currently living far away from this bloodshed.
 

grandmaster

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It sounds morbid, but if the Klitschko's are killed, they'll die heros and the boxing media will feel less comfortable criticizing their careers. They'll finally get the credit they deserve.
I maintain that the best thing to happen for Ali's legacy was Parkinson's disease, because people felt less comfortable criticizing a disabled man's boxing resume.
 

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It sounds morbid, but if the Klitschko's are killed, they'll die heros and the boxing media will feel less comfortable criticizing their careers. They'll finally get the credit they deserve.
I maintain that the best thing to happen for Ali's legacy was Parkinson's disease, because people felt less comfortable criticizing a disabled man's boxing resume.

That's what happened with Pat Tillman. He was routinely mocked for a supposed lack of athleticism despite putting up spectacular numbers, highlighted by 155 tackles one season, unbelievable for a safety.
 
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