The CF Recruiting National Championship

[Riddlewire]

Mountain West

The winner of the Mountain West recruiting season is
The United States Air Force Academy
The Falcons signed 27 white players (out of a total class of 31 recruits) for a total of 58 points.

Air Force: 58 (27)
Colorado State: 30 (13)
Wyoming: 29 (13)
BYU: 25 (11)
UNLV: 20 (9)
San Diego State: 20 (12)
New Mexico: 15 (6)
Utah: 11 (4)
TCU: 8 (6)

Honestly, this would've been a shocker if it had turned out any differently. I fully expect that kind of class out of Air Force. I expected some higher player totals out of the rest of the conference, though. Most of these schools should be minimum half white, but these classes didn't make it there. However, this conference is the only one willing to sign white players to certain skill positions in significant numbers (except for RB. Shakerin seems to be the only one.)
There are people on these forums who know more about the Utah schools than I do. Maybe they can tell us why Utah's class sucked so bad. The two D1 programs with 'Utah' in their names both had horrific recruiting classes this year. And BYU wasn't exactly stellar.

Edited by: Riddlewire

 

[whiteCB]

Good to see Colorado St continuing on their tradition of recruiting white players at all positions. Also BYU looked a little down this year. While Air Force all I can say is WOW!!!

 

[Van_Slyke_CF]

Great work, Riddlewire!


Yeah, what is it with Utah and Utah State?


Colonel Reb had this to say a few days ago about Utah State:


Utah State is a perenial loser who can't get much Utah talent, so they go for black rejects from other areas. The coaches seem to gravitate toward the black "mobile" QBs as well. They signed just 3 players from Utah last week. USU is probably the most diverse D1 school in Utah, they field the blackestD1 team in the state, and they are usually the worst (record wise) D1 team in the state. Is it any wonder?


And now Utah`s total is so low...


How many of the non-whites atMountain West schools like BYU and Utahare Polynesian and not black?

 

[jared]

At BYU, it's quite a few. Just a cursory glance at the names of their recruits:
Bernard Afutiti
Tevita Hola
Seta Pohahau
Iona Pritchard (looks polynesian)
Jessie Taufi
Shiloah Te'o

 

[Riddlewire]

Sorry for the delay. I needed a break before resuming. Especially since I knew that what remained was going to be the toughest task of all. I just now finished CUSA. It took all day long. Interesting results to follow...

 

[Riddlewire]

CUSA

The winner of the Conference USA recruiting season is
SMU
The Mustangs signed 13 white players with a total of 26 points.

SMU: 26 (13)
Tulane: 18 (9)
UAB: 17 (8)
East Carolina: 14 (7)
Tulsa: 12 (8)
UTEP: 11 (6)
Rice: 10 (7)
UCF: 9 (5)
Houston: 8 (5)
Southern Miss: 7 (5)
Marshall: 7 (4)
Memphis: 1 (1)

Congratulations to Memphis head coach Tommy West for signing the worst class in Division 1A football history (as far as I can tell, anyway). It takes a fanatical devotion to self-extinction to sign a class with only one non-black player*. Other coaches tried their best this year, but Coach West's passionate dedication to black ascendancy outshone all competitors. For this reason, I'm awarding Coach West the First Annual Tommy West Award (TM) for excellence in the field of white genocide. Way to go Tommy! Keep at it. I'm sure one day you'll be able to hold your head up high for your efforts in wiping whitey off the face of the Earth.

In other news, the SMU results, while good, should be taken in the proper context. The Mustangs graduated a lot of players, so it was a sizable signing class. Also, June Jones's pattern is to sign mostly the same types of players and then figure out what to do with them. So all of the multi-position white athletes he signed might end up on special teams. Still, it was a 50% white class (13/26), so Kudos to Coach Jones. The rest of the conference was what I would call slightly below decent, considering the locations and histories of some of these schools. Tulane, for example, had what I would consider an excellent signing class (for them).

*Multiple photographs of this player strongly suggest that he is half-caucasian, half-PI/Hawaiian. But I'm willing to give credit for at least one token light-skinned player.Edited by: Riddlewire

 

[Electric Slide]

What Memphis and Tommy West did is simply incomprehensible. Even HBCUs get more white players than that. Check out this article:

Diversity on Their Fields
Some Historically Black Colleges Are Recruiting More White Players for Football

[url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02 /03/AR2008020302641.html[/url]Edited by: Electric Slide

 

[Jimmy Chitwood]

great work, Riddlewire.

depressing news, for sure. but the truth needs to be told.

 

[whiteCB]

EXCELLENT WORK Riddlewire!!!

You should be commended for all the hard work in putting together these rankings and your work is greatly appreciated. So with that said Riddlewire who are you top 5 winners and losers for the CF Recruiting National Championship???

 

[Riddlewire]

Don't let the quiet fool you. I'm still not done. I haven't yet finished the MAC and the IA independents. It's been a brutal week for me, and I just haven't had the time to spend a whole day looking up another conference (and I've known all along that the MAC would be the worst of them). I'll get it done, though.

 

[ToughJ.Riggins]

Riddlewire great job! I appreciate all the hard work you put in. I wish I had the tenacity and diligence to do as much research as you do. I was wondering if you could add Safeties, Aths, WRs, RBs, and CBs that were missed by Jared and the rest of us in the signing day thread. With all the hard work you've put in I'm sure you have come across some names we missed. I'm looking forward to keeping track of all these players college careers. They are underdog stories who have such an uphill battle to fight to have any shot at the NFL.

 

[Colonel_Reb]

Great work, Riddlewire!


Yeah, what is it with Utah and Utah State?


Colonel Reb had this to say a few days ago about Utah State:


Utah State is a perenial loser who can't get much Utah talent, so they go for black rejects from other areas. The coaches seem to gravitate toward the black "mobile" QBs as well. They signed just 3 players from Utah last week. USU is probably the most diverse D1 school in Utah, they field the blackestD1 team in the state, and they are usually the worst (record wise) D1 team in the state. Is it any wonder?


And now Utah`s total is so low...


How many of the non-whites atMountain West schools like BYU and Utahare Polynesian and not black?

Well Van_Slyke_CF and jared, 9 of the 12 non-white BYU signeeswere Polynesian this year. I would say that if you combined Utah and BYU, the Polynesians would outnumber the blacks more than 2 to 1, and probably closer to 3 to 1. I know at least 3 to 1 would be the case for BYU, but muchless for Utah.


You can look at all of BYU's 21signees here:


http://www.byucougars.com/Filing.jsp?ID=10250Edited by: Colonel_Reb

 

[Colonel_Reb]

Mountain West

The winner of the Mountain West recruiting season is
The United States Air Force Academy
The Falcons signed 27 white players (out of a total class of 31 recruits) for a total of 58 points.

Air Force: 58 (27)
Colorado State: 30 (13)
Wyoming: 29 (13)
BYU: 25 (11)
UNLV: 20 (9)
San Diego State: 20 (12)
New Mexico: 15 (6)
Utah: 11 (4)
TCU: 8 (6)

Honestly, this would've been a shocker if it had turned out any differently. I fully expect that kind of class out of Air Force. I expected some higher player totals out of the rest of the conference, though. Most of these schools should be minimum half white, but these classes didn't make it there. However, this conference is the only one willing to sign white players to certain skill positions in significant numbers (except for RB. Shakerin seems to be the only one.)
There are people on these forums who know more about the Utah schools than I do. Maybe they can tell us why Utah's class sucked so bad. The two D1 programs with 'Utah' in their names both had horrific recruiting classes this year. And BYU wasn't exactly stellar.

Riddlewire, great work man!

BYU had a pathetic year in my book. I'm wondering where you looked to get BYU's signees pics. I just posted a link to their recruits page. As far as I can tell, only 9 of the 21 are white. Another 9 are Polynesian, and 3 are black.

 

[ToughJ.Riggins]

Wow, there are certainly a lot more white people playing football in this world than Polynesians especially in this country where colleges should be recruiting. 9:9 ratio? This is pure discrimination. It is everybody but the white man gets favored. Where's the next Luke Staley when we need him? Especially so, after the BYU Samoan runner rushed for about 15 yards on 16 carries in this last Bowl Game.

 

[Riddlewire]

Riddlewire, great work man!

BYU had a pathetic year in my book. I'm wondering where you looked to get BYU's signees pics. I just posted a link to their recruits page. As far as I can tell, only 9 of the 21 are white. Another 9 are Polynesian, and 3 are black.

The date on that listing is Feb. 6th, signing day. It seems to have omitted this player- http://byu.scout.com/a.z?s=338&p=8&c=1&nid=3599671 (here is a picture of him. LB on the far right), and this player-http://byu.rivals.com/viewpro spect.asp?pr_key=65817 (picture included in link). My guess is that they were late signees.

 

[Riddlewire]

Riddlewire great job! I appreciate all the hard work you put in. I wish I had the tenacity and diligence to do as much research as you do. I was wondering if you could add Safeties, Aths, WRs, RBs, and CBs that were missed by Jared and the rest of us in the signing day thread. With all the hard work you've put in I'm sure you have come across some names we missed.

Well, if the players you found come up short of the numbers that I posted for an individual school, then it's likely that I did come across some additional white commits. Unfortunately, I was trying to get the process down to as quick a task as possible, so I didn't write names down along with the position listings. I did compile everything in one large text file, though. I could post that when I'm finally done. Here's an example of what it looks like:

BoiseSt: 7 (ol ol dt te de lb wr) = 1 1 3 2 3 3 3 = 16
FresnoSt: 8(te de dt ol ol ol de ol) = 2 3 3 1 1 1 3 1 = 15
Hawaii: 4(qb lb qb wr) = 2 3 2 3 = 10
Idaho: 5(k lb ol ol qb) = 0 3 1 1 2 = 7
LouisianaTech: 5(ol wr de wr ol) = 1 3 3 3 1 = 11
Nevada: 5(ol ol de de ol)= 1 1 3 3 1 = 9
NewMexicoSt: = 5 (wr lb ol ol dt) = 3 3 1 1 3 = 11
SanJoseSt: 4(lb cb fb lb) = 3 4 3 3 = 13
UtahSt: 3 (ol te dt) = 1 2 3 = 6

It may not look like much, but for some of the 'lesser' conferences, you have to go through nearly every recruit one by one looking for pictures, which can take up to an hour per player.
I've only completed Akron from the MAC (they had a pretty good class, btw). I'll spend the rest of the week working on the rest of the MAC schools. Not sure how long it will take (stupid MAC). Then, after the four Independents, I'll try to do a summary thread and post my 'winners', which, if you've been paying attention, should be obvious already. However, it might be worth pointing out schools/coaches worthy of special acclaim or derision.

 

[Colonel_Reb]

Riddlewire, I couldn't get the second link to work, but I hope they did get that white LB. I just don't understand why they wouldn't mention those two with all the others. I did find another (non-BYU) site that lists 22. The whole recruiting thing is strange. I guess we'll know for sure in the fall.

 

[Riddlewire]

http://byu.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=65817
bad formatting
That should work. If not, he's a DE named Coleby Clawson.

 

[Colonel_Reb]

Thanks Riddlewire. 11 whites are sure better than 9. Hopefully these kidscan make a difference on the field.

 

[Riddlewire]

*Update

Yes, I'm still working on it. Four more MAC schools to go and then the Independents. I'm quitting for today, though.

Note: Next year, the MAC will not be allowed to participate in the CF Recruiting Competition.

 

[Colonel_Reb]

*Update

Yes, I'm still working on it. Four more MAC schools to go and then the Independents. I'm quitting for today, though.

Note: Next year, the MAC will not be allowed to participate in the CF Recruiting Competition.

Ha! I feel your pain Riddlewire. The good news is that with each passing year, this info gets a little easier to find thanks to better technology. 2005 was a nightmare for me, and part of the reason I didn't do all the 1A team previews.

 

[backrow]

Note: Next year, the MAC will not be allowed to participate in the CF Recruiting Competition.

is it that bad?

 

[reclaimsocal]

Wouldn't it be nice if they took the top 2-4 teams from the MAC, WAC and Sunbelt and made one conference and kicked the rest of the schools back down to FCS where they belong?


You could have a 12 Team Conference that looked something like this...


East: Troy, Florida Atlantic, Miami, Toledo,Ball State& Bowling Green


West: Boise St, Hawaii, Fresno St, N. Illinois, Louisiana Tech & Nevada


Maybe North Texas gets a nod over somebody if you think they can turn the program back around.

 

[Riddlewire]

MAC

The winner of the MAC recruiting season is
Western Michigan
The Broncos signed 14 white players with a total of 27 points.

Western Michigan: 27 (14)
Miami, OH: 22 (11)
Eastern Michigan: 21 (11)
Akron: 20 (10)
Ball State: 17 (10)
Northern Illinois: 15 (6)
Buffalo: 11 (5)
Ohio: 10 (6)
Toledo: 9 (4)
Bowling Green: 7 (6)
Kent State: 7 (6)
Central Michigan: 7 (4)
Temple: 5 (4)

The MAC was a two sided conference. You have the good guys - WMU, MiamiOH, EMU, Akron, BSU - versus the bad guys - Everybody else. There were, unfortunately, no white runningbacks recruited this year for the MAC (no CBs, either). Temple did recruit a RB, but have already stated their intent to use him as a 'special teams' athlete. Don't let Buffalo's 11 points fool you, either. Turner Gill's agenda is clear. He gave scholarships to 3 quarterbacks, all of them black.

 

[Riddlewire]

I've run into a bit of a problem.
While compiling the recruit lists for Army and Navy, I noticed that almost none of their players had signed their LOIs. I went back and checked Air Force and it was the same thing. Does anyone know anything about the service academies that would explain this aberration? Is it common for academy recruits not to sign LOIs until they graduate? It's not all the recruits, just most of them.
Unfortunately, I can't give Air Force credit for their great class if the players aren't official yet. However, this isn't actually the problem it would seem to be. Before I even noticed this, I made the executive decision (it's my competition, after all), to set the service academies aside. They aren't on the same playing field as every other Division 1A school and should be judged on different criteria. Besides, they would naturally win every year, so there would be no point in the competition.

So for the 'non official' service academy results, the winner would be Air Force with 58 points (27 white players). Army was nearly tied with 56 points (also 27 white players, but worth fewer points). I didn't even finish Navy's class. There was no need. It was a small class to begin with and they were mostly minorities. So Navy finishes dead last. I'll even put them into fourth place because they were so bad compared to the other two academies. Again, though, these lists aren't official since the LOIs haven't been signed.