Team player.... or else?

[Gi-15]

from rotoworld.com :

Michael Bush-RB-RaidersNov. 17 - 7:19 pm et

Raiders coach Tom Cable wants Michael Bush to convert to fullback, where he thinks Bush can be a "special player in this league."
Smartly, Bush has relentlessly fought the move. Even if he isn't going to make it as a tailback and fullback would get him on the field more, the move to lead blocker would significantly limit his long-term earning potential. He's much better off staying at tailback and hoping for an offseason trade.</font>

What about this? Staying on the bench is now a "smart move" ? What's more important now is your "earning potential", not your playing time? He'll be better off "hoping for an off-season trade" ??? wtf is wrong with the world today!?

How about Peyton Hillis ignoring coaches orders and losing 20 pounds in the offseason so he can be a full-time TB? That's what's good for his "earning potential". If they don't like it he'll just wait for a trade! That would be a smart move! Brian Leonard should do the same, Hester too. Who cares what your boss says... got to pay the bills you know?

 

[Cassiodorus]

Blocking for overrated black RBs 30-40 times per game is Whitey's job.

 

[jaxvid]

from rotoworld.com :

Michael Bush-RB-RaidersNov. 17 - 7:19 pm et

Raiders coach Tom Cable wants Michael Bush to convert to fullback, where he thinks Bush can be a "special player in this league."
Smartly, Bush has relentlessly fought the move. Even if he isn't going to make it as a tailback and fullback would get him on the field more, the move to lead blocker would significantly limit his long-term earning potential. He's much better off staying at tailback and hoping for an offseason trade.

What about this? Staying on the bench is now a "smart move" ? What's more important now is your "earning potential", not your playing time? He'll be better off "hoping for an off-season trade" ??? wtf is wrong with the world today!?

How about Peyton Hillis ignoring coaches orders and losing 20 pounds in the offseason so he can be a full-time TB? That's what's good for his "earning potential". If they don't like it he'll just wait for a trade! That would be a smart move! Brian Leonard should do the same, Hester too. Who cares what your boss says... got to pay the bills you know?

Great point!! A startling example of the double standard. The caste-system at work in the media.

 

[whiteathlete33]

I am surprised anyone would actually want to turn a black running back into a fullback. After all everyone thinks they are blessed with unbelievable athleticism.

 

[ToughJ.Riggins]

I believe Bush runs a 4.65 40 yard and also broke his leg as a senior for Louisville. Those two things would certianly declare a white man inelligible to even make an NFL roster as a HB or WR. Jacob Hester ran a not too shabby 4.6 flat and came off a season where he led LSU to the national championship with impressive stats. He in turn was lambasted by the media elites and the Chargers were scoffed at for taking "a limited athlete" too early in the 3rd round.

Edited by: ToughJ.Riggins

 

[Gi-15]

another update on Bush from rotowolrd.com

Michael Bush agreed to take some reps at fullback in Wednesday's practice, but remains steadfastly against a position switch.
"There's nothing I can do," Bush said. "I told (Tom Cable) no the first time, you know? I just want people to know what position I play. I'm not a fullback. I think it's a waste of my talent." He's right and hopefully the Raiders trade him in the offseason like they nearly did at the October deadline. Bush has no experience at fullback and is too physically gifted to be pigeonholed there.</font>

waste of your talent? and sitting on the bench behind 2 better RB isn't a waste of your talent? how about helping the team to win? you worthless piece of crap... and those whores are encouraging him...
where was that bias when Brian Leonard was "pidgeonholed" at FB after his great game in releif of steven jackson last year? I hate that caste sh*t. A part of me would like to see Brian speak out like that, but the other part would hate him for doing it...Edited by: Gi-15

 

[White Shogun]

He's basically saying that fullbacks aren't talented. I hope the guys who block for him remember these words.

 

[bigunreal]

From the same Rotoworld site is another snippet, which sums up the Caste System perspective perfectly:

Dolphins signed WR Greg Camarillo to a three-year, $6 million extension through 2011.

Camarillo entered camp as a Cam Cameron holdover with little shot to make the club, but impressed The Trifecta with his work ethic and ultimately beat out Derek Hagan and Ernest Wilford to start. Long term the Dolphins probably won't want Camarillo to keep that job, but he can stay active as a slot receiver/special teamer when Miami upgrades the position in the offseason. Good hands, low cost, and unselfishness will keep Camarillo valuable.

Just look at all the code words there- "work ethic, slot receiver, special teamer, unselfishness." Think of what the idiot who writes for this fantasy site is saying: the team that this highly productive WR plays for "probably won't want" him to keep his job!

Presumably, this is the same idiot who wrote the blurb about Michael Bush, wherein he expressed great sympathy and is obviously in agreement with this completely unproven, injury prone back that he is "too good" to play fullback. As TJR pointed out, Bush's measurables are not as good as white backs like Leonard and Hester, both of whom were more accomplished and well-known running backs in college. Something tells me that this fantasy site idiot would not have quite the same attitude if either of these white players expressed the same views.

Can the double standard be any clearer?

 

[Colonel_Reb]

Great post bigunreal! It is amazing sometimes the rate at which white players are belittled, even in one fantasy blurb.

 

[Thrashen]

Man, that quote Bigunreal posted about Greg Camarillo really hits the nail on the head. It's one of the most caste-heavy couple sentences I've seen in a long while. The funny part is, they're pretending like Camarillo is "old" and in need of replacing for that reason. Facts and stats dont even matter to the MSM, why would they matter to some retard fantasy football jock-boy on the internet?

Then again, this is the same 'writer' who thinks a selfish, ploddinly slow oaf like Michael Bush is 'special.'

I watched Bush play many times a Louisville (when he wasnt injured, that is) and there was nothing special about him. He was a overgrown oaf (ala Brandon Jacobs) with moderate skills and strength, big deal. Bush and Jacobs are like weaker, slower, wimpy versions of Mike Alstott. However, their perfect 'genetics' allowed them every opportunity under the rainbow.

Michael Bush, like most black affletes, is much too cowardly to actually hit someone during a football game (which explains his reluctancly to play FB). The non-white affletes that DO actually like to hit (Troy Polomaulo, Boob Sanders, etc) are infinately praised, commercialized, and are already becoming 'legends.'

What's their little "excuse" when these two superhumans miss tons of games with injuries every season? 'Duh, that's just because they play so hard!' They only look "so good" because every other starting DB plays like such a wimp.Edited by: Thrashen

 

[Jimmy Chitwood]

while this post is in regards to a high school player, i thought it fitting for this thread.

last week, i read a story in the local paper on running back Ronnie Wingo, a black prospect Arkansas is trying to get. anyway, the article written by Alex Abrams contained the following quote after Wingo had been listed as a tight end at the U.S. Army All-American game:

""I'm playing running back. If a school doesn't want me to play running back, I'm not going. I'm not playing tight end."

so you see, blacks are very outspoken about their personal desires. nowhere in the piece did Wingo mention he'd 'do what's best for the team.'

as an aside, the 6-3, 212-pound Wingo is rated the #11 running back prospect by Scout.com after rushing for 1,482 yards and 14 touchdowns as a senior at St. Louis University (Mo.) High, giving him 4,499 yards and 48 touchdowns during his record-breaking prep career.

their are literally hundreds of white running backs who post similar numbers each year that never catch sight of a D-I scholarship offer. those who do get a scholarship are sacrificed on the altar of negro worship and forced to change positions.

 

[mrjohnnynofear]

while this post is in regards to a high school player, i thought it fitting for this thread.

last week, i read a story in the local paper on running back Ronnie Wingo, a black prospect Arkansas is trying to get. anyway, the article written by Alex Abrams contained the following quote after Wingo had been listed as a tight end at the U.S. Army All-American game:

""I'm playing running back. If a school doesn't want me to play running back, I'm not going. I'm not playing tight end."

so you see, blacks are very outspoken about their personal desires. nowhere in the piece did Wingo mention he'd 'do what's best for the team.'

as an aside, the 6-3, 212-pound Wingo is rated the #11 running back prospect by Scout.com after rushing for 1,482 yards and 14 touchdowns as a senior at St. Louis University (Mo.) High, giving him 4,499 yards and 48 touchdowns during his record-breaking prep career.

their are literally hundreds of white running backs who post similar numbers each year that never catch sight of a D-I scholarship offer. those who do get a scholarship are sacrificed on the altar of negro worship and forced to change positions.

I'm very familiar with Wingo having seen SLUH play this year and watching Mizzou battle the Hogs for him. No doubt he is a very good player. However it seems like that with so many schools wanting his service, he can tell them what he wants take it or leave it. If a white kid said that, they would pull his scholarship

. They are saying he could be the next Darren McFadden. Who knows?? Another St. Louis african-american Sheldon Richardson DT/TE (6'4, at least 275) WANTS TO RETURN KICKOFFS

! Given he ran one back this year for a TD, averaged around 23 yards per return and is one of the best recruits in the nation at any position. But college is different than high school. Especially playing in the city's Public High League (PHL) where form tackling is a lost art

. And Mizzou said they would let him return a few kickoffs!!! Next thing you know, they'll be asking to be an offensive coordinator for a play or 2!!!

 

[Tom Iron]

mrjohnnynofear,

Your last comment about players wanting to be offensive coordinator for a play or 2 is right on. Unfortuneately, many of our young people don't understand the need for them to work through to the top of whatever they're into. Many of them want to start at the top. They don't want to work in the field. They want to be the job superintendant from the getgo. That's indemic in our society. Has nothing to do with class, race, or anything else. Just the way young people are raised today. Start at the top. Anything else is beneath their dignity.

Tom Iron...

 

[PhillyBirds]

Compare these divas to someone like, say, Dan Klecko of the Philadelphia Eagles. Klceko was the Big East Defensive Player of the Year as a senior at Temple University. The Patriots drafted him, but Dan ended up playing fullback after a D-line roster crunch. After he blew out his knee being tackled after a catch, they tried him as a 3-4 linebacker. That didn't work, so they cut him.

Indianapolis picked him up, and used him as a fullback. After some injuries on the defensive line, Dan was moved back to tackle. He also caught a clutch 1-yard touchdown pass against the Patriots in the AFC Championship. After a few years of marginal playing time at defensive tackle, Dan was cut once again.

Dan was signed by the Eagles in the offseason as a candidate for the starting fullback job. He looked a little rusty (for obvious reasons). So the Eagles moved him back to his natural position of DT, where he excelled; Dan collected 3 sacks in limited time in the preseason. Dan started the season at DT, where he had 2 sacks in 2 games in the D-line rotation.

After Tony Hunt crashed and burned at FB, the Eagles turned to the only player on the roster that knew the fullback playbook; Mr. Dan Klecko.

The same Dan Klecko who is on the verge of joining some very elite company: With two wins, Dan Klecko joins the likes of Terry Bradshaw and Joe Montana as one of the few players to have 4 Super Bowl rings.

Suffice to say, Dan Klecko is one of my favorite players. A competitive athlete, who possesses the skill to play many positions, but has recieved the opportunity to start at none of them. But who said being a team player can't pay off?

Four Rings ain't too shabby.

 

[Colonel_Reb]

Tom, I agree thatthere is a society wide desire for young people to not have to work their way to the top. However I do believe that blacks, at much higher rates, want to be given positions, things, etc. This entitlement mentality began in the 1960s with the so-called war on poverty and the rise of the welfare state, both of which made it very easy for blacks to receive "assistance" from the government (us). The welfare queen gets a check for her three or four fatherless kids who also get help because they are labeled as having ADD, she draws a disability or "crazy" check but somehow manages do go and do anything she wants in her new or almost new car, and she doesn't have to work because her doctor visits are paid for by us. So she sits over her brood and getsmorbidly obeseoff of us, all the while ingraining hatred of the white man into her kids. With these types of entitlements so prevalent in black neighborhoods, its no wonder that these players demand things and then raise cane if they don't get it. They have become used to having everything handed to them outside of athletics, so why should sports be any different.

 

[Electric Slide]

Tom, I agree that there is a society wide desire for young people to not have to work their way to the top. However I do believe that blacks, at much higher rates, want to be given positions, things, etc. This entitlement mentality began in the 1960s with the so-called war on poverty and the rise of the welfare state, both of which made it very easy for blacks to receive "assistance" from the government (us). The welfare queen gets a check for her three or four fatherless kids who also get help because they are labeled as having ADD, she draws a disability or "crazy" check but somehow manages do go and do anything she wants in her new or almost new car, and she doesn't have to work because her doctor visits are paid for by us. So she sits over her brood and gets morbidly obese off of us, all the while ingraining hatred of the white man into her kids. With these types of entitlements so prevalent in black neighborhoods, its no wonder that these players demand things and then raise cane if they don't get it. They have become used to having everything handed to them outside of athletics, so why should sports be any different.

Col, you are dead-on with your assesment of entitlements in the black community. Many white Americans are being robbed every week or two to pay for the excess desires of the black community. When you try to argue this point, people say all sorts of things like "They have to go to bad schools," "They have NO health-care," "Would you want to trade positions with THEM???" "You can't take care of a family on minimum wage." They use this as an argument for MORE taxes to give away to these people. They say it's only the right thing to do because they have been disadvantaged from the beginning, or as VP-elect Joe Biden says it's your patriotic duty to give your hard-earned money to those who haven't earned it.

 

[whiteCB]

I remember Texas A&M RB Javorski Lane bitching about the coaching staff wanting to move his 270 lbs fat ass to FB before the season and Lane wanted nothing to do with it. However, Brian Leonard along with countless other white guys continually switch to FB without ever even a glimpse of hesitation. When are these white athletes going to wake up and realize they're nothing more than an object to NFL team X or University Y's profit. That's all they are and nothing more. Stop being a "team guy" and have some self respect. Play the position you deem fit for yourself and go f*ck the team. That's what I say!!

 

[Colonel_Reb]

I agree with you CB, although a lot of the white players will be shown the door when they do that. We do need white athletes who will stand up to the crap and discrimination.