Super Bowl

[Jimmy Chitwood]

A bunch of penalties by undisciplined black players almost cost the Steelers in the end.

Big Ben should have been the MVP.

Congratulations Steelers on Super Bowl victory #6!

Defensive penalties did cost the Cardinals though. Three personal fouls on one drive?? W T F???

Just shows you how good Warner really is that he can take this group of undisciplined thugs to the Super Bowl. The Cards were the 5th most penalized team in the league this year.

absolutely correct, Van Slyke and Shogun! the Cardinals' defense, in particular, cost their team severely with all the penalties. the 3 personal fouls on one drive led to Pittsburgh points, and what makes it even more awful was the fact that the commentators kept going on about how Cardinal fans should be thankful the D was playing so well.

there were so many stupid penalties in this game, i'd need an abacus to keep count!

also, how about the affletic black sumo left tackle that Warner had "protecting" his blind side? if he wasn't getting penalized for holding, then Warner was getting hit by his man. pathetic!

a tip of the hat to Big Ben, however. the way he bought time behind his atrocious o-line was simply incredible.

 

[Bart]

Why was the fumble by Warner at the end of the game not reviewed? Wouldn't it have been prudent for the booth to take a closer look? This was not a preseason game. It seems to me the officiating of the game was very suspect.

 

[SeaJim]

Underwhelming SB indeed. And Springsteen, the liberal anti-white rocker (LOL!!), at the half...ugh!!! Hang it up Bruce, you can't hit the high notes anymore. (Was also probably the largest crowd he has played to in 20+ yrs...?)

 

[Maple Leaf]

The Depression has significantly impacted the Big Game:


Super Bowl takes a hit: Recession zaps big game</font>


TAMPA, Fla. (AP)â€â€There were mountains of jumbo shrimp, and caviar everywhere. Muhammad Ali would show up, maybe amid a fleet of shiny Cadillacs. Five-star hotels were packed, and getting a dinner reservation for Saturday night was impossible. Finding a ticket for Sunday was even harder.


In years past, the Super Bowl was so much more than a game. It was an outright orgy of football, glitz and gluttony, a celebration of excess where too much was never enough.


The No. 1 sporting event in America is still a big deal. Nearly 100 million of us will tune in Sunday night when the [COLOR=#0069aa">Pittsburgh Steelers[/COLOR">[/url] play the [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/ari/"][COLOR=#0069aa">Arizona Cardinals[/COLOR">[/url].


But in these tough economic times, it's easy to see: The Super Bowl is taking a hit, too.


General Motors and FedEx pulled their TV ads, even though NBC lowered the price. Playboy canceled its annual party. Almost 200 fewer media credentials were issued.


"When I think of the NFL, I think of recession-proof," Cardinals lineman [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8654/;_ylt=AnsdvveSXGhNUSpXmAAzj6YdsLYF"][COLOR=#0069aa">Elliot Vallejo[/COLOR">[/url] said this week. "But that's not true anymore."


Used to be everywhere you looked around a Super Bowl town, all you could see was advertising. There were commercial booths at every turn. The headquarters hotel and media center looked like giant trade shows.


Now you can look pretty much everywhere and actually see things. Such as empty tables at local restaurants and vacant hotel rooms downtown.


StubHub does have a sign on the mezzanine level at Raymond James Stadium. The nationwide ticket broker also had more than 3,000 seats for sale, as of midweek. They were getting less expensive by the minute.


"In terms of pricing, this game has become the Limbo Bowlâ€â€how low can it go?" StubHub spokesman Sean Pate said. "When it comes to plunking down $7,000 for a weekend, people are becoming more pragmatic. They have other needs."


Dave Gornick hears that from his pals. Now a dentist in Gibsonia, Pa., the lifelong Steelers fan grew up in steel-mill country.


"Some of the guys I tailgate with, they're blue-collar guys making $30,000 or $35,000 a year, and they didn't have the $1,600 you had to put up in advance to get into the lottery for Super Bowl tickets," he said. "In the past, I think they would've done anything to get to the Super Bowl. Not now, not with this economy."


On the other hand, it might be cheaper to go to the game.


While tickets are still priceyâ€â€about 15,000 at a record $1,000 apiece, and 53,000 at $800 eachâ€â€another 1,000 cost $500â€â€down from last year's low of $700, the first cut in Super Bowl history.


And tickets that cost $2,500 or more from scalpers and brokers could be selling at face value by kickoff.


"I haven't seen empty stadiums yet. I haven't seen games being blacked out on TV because they haven't sold out," Cardinals defensive end [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6801/;_ylt=Agu.U61x_wquYsZ824oO1lAdsLYF"][COLOR=#0069aa">Travis LaBoy[/COLOR">[/url] said. "But they're saying this is the lowest price for a Super Bowl ticket. That's the economy, tenfold."


In a week or so, the NFL plans to make a more painful cut, reducing 10 percent of its staff.


"These are difficult and painful steps," commissioner Roger Goodell recently wrote in a memo to employees. "But they are necessary in the current economic environment. I would like to be able to report that we are immune to the troubles around us, but we are not."


Still the gold standard in sports worldwide, the league with annual revenues of $6.5 billion is paying the price. But with television money already locked in and most tickets committed in advance, the NFL is far from struggling.


The league won't feel the biggest effects from the recession until it's time for fans to renew and buy season tickets.


"There's no secret on sponsorship, advertising, licensingâ€â€those numbers are going to be impacted by the current climate. We're aware of that," Goodell told The Associated Press before Thanksgiving.


"We're still, unfortunately, in the beginning stages of this. And most of our tickets are sold in the spring. And so '09 is going to be more of a barometer of how impactful the economic environment's going to be on the NFL," he said.


Steelers tackle [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7414/;_ylt=AsIzri0l66.8IytTRegkScEdsLYF"][COLOR=#0069aa">Jeremy Parquet[/COLOR">[/url] is busy these days checking his long-term investments, financial portfolios and retirement accounts.


"We're lucky because as athletes, we make good salaries. But everyone is affected," he said. "With Barack Obama as our president, maybe it'll change in the next two years."


Too late for [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/3893/;_ylt=AgniNYE00cEimhMCogyfiKEdsLYF"][COLOR=#0069aa">Warrick Dunn[/COLOR">[/url].


One of the most popular players in Tampa Bay history, Dunn and Buccaneers teammate [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/3141/;_ylt=Amtyl8Ftv78He2atVz8iqCsdsLYF"][COLOR=#0069aa">Derrick Brooks[/COLOR">[/url] planned to hold a charity event while the Super Bowl was in town. Widely recognized for their community service, they were all set to host the Brooks & Dunn Inaugural Golf Classic this week.


Many locals figured that if anyone in the area could put on a successful outing, it was these two. But earlier this month, the event was canceled. Not enough corporate sponsorship and support.


"We raised a good amount of money, but we were hoping for more," Dunn said. "I guess it's not surprising, given these tough times. People don't have as much money to spend."


[url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-superbowl-economy&prov=ap&type=lgns"] [url]http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-superbowl-economy&a mp;prov=ap&type=lgns[/url]

This is a topic I would propose some would explore more here. This Super Bowl did not lay golden eggs for the NFL like many of past years. Viewership IS down and revenues from secondary streams are down. The article above is not entirely correct where it is stated "...television money is locked in...". In fact, televison money is going to be negotiated this May during the "upfront buying period" when advertisers will be purchasing and committing money for their ads. It is a known that the networks will receive less money for advertising this year. Therefore, we can conclude that the NFL will also receive less for their product that they sell to the networks to attract advertisers.
I do not have the time here so I will post more on the season's review at a later post.

However...

The NFL is entering a period of decling revenues. When revenues fall businesses make changes to at least hold profits from falling beyond what is deemed as acceptable. The big question here is: what will the NFL do? How will the NFL change and adapt to maintain their balance sheets and stay out of the red? I will suggest a hint: it depends on how bad things get.

 

[Guest]

That was the whitest halftime show of all time. I can imagine that some non-white mouth or scribe will take note of that fact. White libs are so in love with themselves that sometimes they miss key details in the narrative. Like last nite they had white lib icon Springsteen who has no cross over appeal whatsoever and to make it worse they flood the stage area with whites with nary a bit of "diversity." I found it hilarious.

 

[Freethinker]

A summary of my thoughts:

-This was actually a very entertaining game. The quarterbacks did not disappoint. They both put a nice stamp on great careers. The 4th quarter had a lot of excitement and actually kept me interested.

-Harrison's return was a quite a humorous affair. Only in today's CASTE NFL could a slug like that rumble through 5 or 6 missed tackles. I guess the lack of sound tackling makes for more exciting big plays...

- Springsteen (the liberal Jew from NJ) gave probably one of the worst halftime performances I could remember. With Rooney, Obama, Tomlin, and the rest of the circus in town for this Super Bowl, Springsteen was the perfect choice to really "stick it" to conservative white America.

- Could there have been a fix? Sure. After seeing the final play where Warner "fumbled" not even get reviewed it became obvious who the refs were told to favor. Wouldn't want Christian Kurt winning another Super Bowl and MVP and raining on the Obama

/ Rooney

/ Tomlin

parade

- Urban is too good to be a 4th receiver. Either, Boldin needs to get traded so Urban and Breaston can complete for the #2 & #3 spots or Urban needs to get picked up by another team.Edited by: Freethinker

 

[DWFan]

I agree Freethinker. My experience in watching the game, with all this interference by the officials, combined with reading bigunreal's posts, compels me to think that at some level these games are fixed. I just don't know what level it's on.

 

[Run Stuffing LB]

It watched a little bit (mainly from morbid curiosity) and was stunned by the level of negro worship and the endless apologies for their various pathological behaviors. When some marble-mouthed negro declared he attended school at "swaggin" and the announcers explained how cool and hip that was I turned the game off.

I'm seriously considering never watching the NFL again. I don't need the spiritual sickness that comes from sitting through the mess they're putting out right now.

 

[darthvader]

It's so funny but whenever these players introduce themselves in the beginning by stating their position and the college they attended (if you can actually understand them that is because some of these players make tommy hearns sound like a rhode scholar) I really think I'm watching a prison lineup. In a way theseplayers do look the same to me. Edited by: Don Wassall

 

[Bart]

I agree Freethinker. My experience in watching the game, with all this interference by the officials, combined with reading bigunreal's posts, compels me to think that at some level these games are fixed. I just don't know what level it's on.

I agree. Yesterday's game was atrocious.When Mike Holmgren said he didn't know his team had to battle the refs in Seattle's loss to Pittsburgh, it wasn't just sour grapes. All hail the Looney Rooneys and Mike Tomlin.

As for the commercials?

Non-stop parade of White doofuses.

 

[Freethinker]

I agree Freethinker. My experience in watching the game, with all this interference by the officials, combined with reading bigunreal's posts, compels me to think that at some level these games are fixed. I just don't know what level it's on.

I would say the refs are told before hand to give any close calls or a certain number of favorable calls to a certain team. In a close game it only takes a few calls by the refs to swing the outcome. As long it does not become blatantly obvious this is easy to get away with.

 

[bigunreal]

I agree that Big Ben should have been the MVP. This is another indicator of how far the pendulum has swung; in the past, any QB leading his team on a last minute game-winning drive would be the unquestionable MVP. Starting with the Super Bowl where the Packers beat the Patriots, we saw a real change there. Brett Favre, even as one of the few white media darlings out there, was passed over for MVP. Instead, the immortal Desmond Howard was given the award. Howard returned a kickoff for a TD, but had little other impact on the game.

I've been watching a bit of the ESPN coverage, and every single jock-sniffer is having one verbal orgasm after another over how "great" this game was. They are even suggesting that the catch by Holmes was the "greatest" ever. Yes, and Charlie Sanders and Randall McDaniel are Hall of Famers. But Kurt Warner somehow may not be. The Caste System is as strong as ever, this is clearly Don King's America, and Obama is our president.

 

[James]

The Nielsen overnight ratings for the Super Bowl were 85.4 million viewers, second all time after last year's game.43.1% of all households with televisions tuned in to some part of the game.
NBC made $261 million off advertising for the pre-game, game and post-game, the most ever.

 

[Deadlift]

I agree that Big Ben should have been the MVP. This is another indicator of how far the pendulum has swung; in the past, any QB leading his team on a last minute game-winning drive would be the unquestionable MVP. Starting with the Super Bowl where the Packers beat the Patriots, we saw a real change there. Brett Favre, even as one of the few white media darlings out there, was passed over for MVP. Instead, the immortal Desmond Howard was given the award. Howard returned a kickoff for a TD, but had little other impact on the game.

I've been watching a bit of the ESPN coverage, and every single jock-sniffer is having one verbal orgasm after another over how "great" this game was. They are even suggesting that the catch by Holmes was the "greatest" ever. Yes, and Charlie Sanders and Randall McDaniel are Hall of Famers. But Kurt Warner somehow may not be. The Caste System is as strong as ever, this is clearly Don King's America, and Obama is our president.

3 of the talking-heads on "Around the Horn" said that Big Ben should have been the MVP. The consistent black supremacist, J.A. Adande, was the lone exception as expected.

It's definitely true that the media is more fervently pushing the idea that the black receiver is MORE relevant than the White QB. A QB and his receivers need to have "chemistry" to achieve ultimate success -- but the QB's job is more difficult as he has to be aware of MUCH MORE, including a fierce pass rush, compared to a receiver.

Using the SAME receivers, Kerry Collins outperformed Vince Young and Matt Ryan outperformed Mike Vick. I LOVE facts!

If Arizona had won, is there any doubt that Larry Fitzgerald would have gotten the MVP? In the run-up to the Super Bowl, from programs I watched, I noticed that Big Ben got a lot more praise than Kurt Warner. When speaking of Kurt Warner it was like, "Oh, but he has Fitzgerald and Boldin and Breaston!" If Arizona had won, the "minimization" of Kurt was already firmly in place.

Although, on "PTI" today, Wilbon said Kurt Warner has shown again that he should be in the HOF. They also said that they want him to play for a few more years. ESPN is a huge organ in the Caste media, but it wasn't all anti-White the day after the Super Bowl. If they want to say that this was "the greatest game ever" -- it can be chalked-up to the sports media having it's own self-interest in mind. Look at all the NFL programs that ESPN airs!?!

For me, supporting Big Ben was a no brainer. His backup is black. If Ben didn't pull out the win, all the talking-heads would say - "Byron would have gotten the job done! Byron would have gotten the job done!" Don, do you have an opinion on this?

Remember that ESPN tried to create a "QB-controversy" in the middle of the season? At that time, Chris Carter was interviewed on "Mike and Mike" and he scared the sh*t out of those guys by totally saying it's BEN's JOB, the same Ben with a Super Bowl victory, and that there should be absolutely NO discussion about "any controversy"....

 

[Bart]

I agree that Big Ben should have been the MVP. This is another indicator of how far the pendulum has swung; in the past, any QB leading his team on a last minute game-winning drive would be the unquestionable MVP.

Good post. However, If it hadn't been Ben R. leading the Steelers but Donovan McNabb, you can bet your last dollarMcChunkywould have won the MVP.

 

[Jimmy Chitwood]

The Nielsen overnight ratings for the Super Bowl were 85.4 million viewers, second all time after last year's game.43.1% of all households with televisions tuned in to some part of the game.
NBC made $261 million off advertising for the pre-game, game and post-game, the most ever.

wow! i am stunned by the ratings and the news that advertising made that much.

i am a big sports fan, and associate with a lot of sports fans, and to the last one, ALL were less than excited about this Super Bowl. and several guys i thought would never miss the SB indeed did miss it.

as for the ad revenue, what happened to the news stories asserting that television was desperate to sell slots because no one was buying? which was false info, now or then?

 

[pistol pete]

I can't wait for the upcoming Depression Bowl* where several overweight, loud, uneducated black folk compete for one solitary gummit job.

* Depression Bowl only open to blacks. People who aren't black need not apply.
* * Again, Depression Bowl be for blacks only. Us evil whiteys have our own thing -- it's called the Cracker Barrel.

 

[DWFan]

As for the commercials?  

Non-stop parade of White doofuses.

Fortunately I was able to achieve a state of mind where I could block out the ads. I don't even remember one of them. Then this morning I got on profootballtalk.com and the dude (forget his name) said that the commercials were more vicious than ever...as though it were a celebration of humiliation and pain, or something to that effect. He linked to one ad that was supposed to be extraordinarily sadistic, and I hit the link but it wanted to make me watch another commercial first so I hit the X. Having to watch a commercial for the privilege of seeing another commercial...these dudes are literally insane.

 

[DWFan]

I would say the refs are told before hand to give any close calls or a certain number of favorable calls to a certain team. In a close game it only takes a few calls by the refs to swing the outcome. As long it does not become blatantly obvious this is easy to get away with.

Who do you think does it...the league? Networks? Or organized gambling sources? Personally I could believe any combination of these, though I don't have any evidence to make a case for it.

 

[bigunreal]

Just found out about another curious bit of officiating that helped the Steelers win. Of all shows, "PTI" actually brought it up. I didn't see it during the game, but apparently Santonio Holmes did a bit of typical black celebrating after his big TD catch. As both Kornheiser and Wilbon acknowledged, this kind of "excessive" celebration penalty is called routinely now. If a penalty had been called, the Steelers would have had to kick off from 15 yards farther away. Needless to say, the field position benefit would have been substantial for Arizona.

Combined with the incredible non-review of the last play (which I missed, having stopped watching in disgust after Pittsburgh's "amazing" comeback), and the fact that, according to some, a roughing the passer penalty should have been called on the play, I think it's fairly obvious that the officials were working overtime at the end to ensure a Steeler victory.

 

[sport historian]

How does the alleged fixing work so well? Why doesn't someone become unhapppy with his cut and turn the others in? Why do the players on the losing team accept it without complaint? How much money do you pay the losing team over what they would make as Super Bowl winners? Why is this the first conspiracy in which no one talks? Why wasn't it fixed so that McNabb could win a Super Bowl? Why don't you cry "fix" when the team you root for wins?

 

[jaxvid]

I don't see the point of a fix either. No one important enough to arrange an outcome suffers if one team or the other wins. If it was really fixed then teams from big markets with black QB's would win all the time. The league is a collective and profits no matter which team/franchise is succesful.

Too much conspiracy talk in this thread. It doesn't make sense.

 

[OldSchoolBoy75]

Just found out about another curious bit of officiating that helped the Steelers win. Of all shows, "PTI" actually brought it up. I didn't see it during the game, but apparently Santonio Holmes did a bit of typical black celebrating after his big TD catch. As both Kornheiser and Wilbon acknowledged, this kind of "excessive" celebration penalty is called routinely now. If a penalty had been called, the Steelers would have had to kick off from 15 yards farther away. Needless to say, the field position benefit would have been substantial for Arizona.

Combined with the incredible non-review of the last play (which I missed, having stopped watching in disgust after Pittsburgh's "amazing" comeback), and the fact that, according to some, a roughing the passer penalty should have been called on the play, I think it's fairly obvious that the officials were working overtime at the end to ensure a Steeler victory.

I know that officials have long had biases against teams opposing the Steelers. All one has to do is look at Fred Swearingen, an offical from the Super Bowl XIII (Steelers and Cowboys), who imposed a penalty on Cowboy safety(?) Benny Barnes and allowed Lynn Swann to go deep into Cowboy territory. I think there was another incident where Swearingen gave the Steelers a free pass.

 

[Thrashen]

I also don't understand why the league would want the Steelers to win over the Cardinals.


1)The Cardinals were the underdog, which obviouslymakes for a better "script."


2)Kurt Warner is the universal "Mr. Nice Guy," and is even respected by the most hardcore of jock sniffers. Having a QB take two pathetic franchises to a SB and win is by far a more "interesting" story to the general public.


3)The Cardinals started a superbowl record 2 whites (Warner and one OL), whereas the Steelers started 5-6.


4)Tony Dungheap, the first 1/2 black coach to win a superbowl alreadygave the media their percious little diversity story 2 seasons ago. That's the reason Mike Tomlin's race was barely mentionedduring the game.


Other than the super-evil Rooney family winning again, I have no clue why anyone would want to "fix" this boring matchup. Naturally, I would'nt put any amount of deceitfulness past the powers-that-be running the NFL and the entire country.


The horribly violent, crude, un-funny, immature, and overall meaningless commercials featured during the game should have beenpunishment enough for most whites (instead theyyucked it up like good little stooges).


I swear, the mental patients who write these commericals can't get through a single add without having some standard white "nerd" being smashed in the groin, beaten up, degraded, or insulted in some asanine manner. I suppose they don't really care that little kids might be watching. Nobody will b*tch unless the "nerd" is the wrong color.Edited by: Thrashen

 

[James]

The Nielsen overnight ratings for the Super Bowl were 85.4 million viewers, second all time after last year's game.43.1% of all households with televisions tuned in to some part of the game.
NBC made $261 million off advertising for the pre-game, game and post-game, the most ever.

wow! i am stunned by the ratings and the news that advertising made that much.

i am a big sports fan, and associate with a lot of sports fans, and to the last one, ALL were less than excited about this Super Bowl. and several guys i thought would never miss the SB indeed did miss it.

as for the ad revenue, what happened to the news stories asserting that television was desperate to sell slots because no one was buying? which was false info, now or then?

NBC announced that 90% of the ad spots were sold by January 1st, usually they are 100% sold by then. The remaining 10% were purchased in the last couple of weeks before the game. Companies just bought in later than usual but they still bought in.
95.4 million people watching is hard to resist for major corporations with large ad budgets. That's 60 million more than watch American Idol.
Arizona and Pittsburgh are smaller market cities, that's why this year's game had fewer viewers than last year with New England and New York which are huge market cities.