Sumo Watch

[Guest]

Dallas does break the streotype slightly of the deadfooted sumo lineman. They did allow some pressure about one second after the Pack line should have been on Romo. As for the ground gains against the Pack they overplayed the pass and bit on too much of the blocking direction. It sure is hell to see an outside linebacker biting on the O-line blocking and not playing the cutback. But I assume this is the pros playing not to get hurt since I always thought a D end controlling his end of the line on the run instead of falling to the ground with the opposing O-lineman.

 

[Freethinker]

My favorite sumo. The imortal Grady Jackson in mid season form. How does an amazing athlete get into top shape one may ask.....

 

[white is right]

I know Gilbert Brown had the Gilbert Burger named in his honor. The problem is he ate too many of them and ended up in celebrity rehab with Rerun and Delta Burke...

 

[Don Wassall]

Great pic of Grady Jackson.

Eat like pigs and still be hailed as great athletes. Such a deal.

 

[whiteathlete33]

That must be his pre game food he uses for his incredible athletic ability.

 

[white is right]

My favorite sumo. The imortal Grady Jackson in mid season form. How does an amazing athlete get into top shape one may ask.....

That burger has more calories than a peasant in IndoChina eats for a week.....

 

[Jimmy Chitwood]

the Caste propaganda machine is in love with super fat ass terrence cody from Alabama.

read this "report" from rivals. it is so pathetically repugnant, i can't even begin to describe it properly.

 

[Deadlift]

Police say ex-Chargers DL Mims found dead at age 38


http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/11037240


It took me a while to recollect something about this player, but I now remember watching a Chargers' game and hearing the broadcasters' gush over him because he attained an 11 sack season. The early 90's seem like ages ago.


An interesting excerpt from the article:

The 6-foot-5 Mims battled weight problems and once referred to himself as the "Fat Doctor" because he often tipped the scales at more than 300 pounds.

Now "certain" players, considered athletes by the media, are pushing the 400 pound mark. That can't be healthy.


http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/players/2064

Above link contains picture.


The absolutely disgusting "glorification" of sumos' just shows how idiotic the Caste media is. The "men" in the media that have a "fetish" for blubbery blacks don't realize how stupid their propaganda really is.

 

[White Shogun]

the Caste propaganda machine is in love with super fat ass terrence cody from Alabama.

read this "report" from rivals. it is so pathetically repugnant, i can't even begin to describe it properly.

Says he can dunk a basketball at 6'5", 400+ lbs?

 

[Deadlift]

Draft Sneak Peek: by Pete Prisco


http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/11041146


NO White linemen. Lot's of blubber, though. Yippee....

2. Andre Smith, T, Alabama (JR): He's 340 pounds and has the feet of a basketball player. He plays the left side for the Tide, but he could also move to the right side on the next level.

How's his endurance? It's also interesting that he ranks JUNIOR (I hope he leaves, BTW) Andre Smith #2 and Senior Michael Oher #4.

27. Duke Robinson, G, Oklahoma: He's a big guard at 6-5 and 335 pounds who might be able to move to right tackle on the next level. He's a good run blocker who will need to improve his pass protection.

28. Terrence Cody, DT, Alabama (JR): He's a force in the middle of the Tide line, but his 360 pounds might be a concern to some teams. He's down from 400, so he can get it off. He needs to play at 330.

I thought the NFL desired "explosive" athletes at every position? We've seen slug-after-slug that couldn't create explosion off the line of scrimmage, and they fade fast with a little age. The joints just can't handle the excessive weight.

Poor cardio will also ruin a team. Also, look at all the White QB's put behind sumo lines and then they become ruined. I'm surprised that no one has brought up the possibility of Flacco being ruined because of his atrocious line. Against Indianapolis, he had to dink-and-dunk because he didn't even have minimal protection. When the media showed his 3 interceptions, you could see the wholesale failure of the line. It's a minor miracle that he was 28-38 passing in that game. Now their Guard, Marshal Yanda, is out for the season. Put Troy Smith in! What do you guys think?

Others who could move into top 32: Brian Robiskie, WR, Ohio State; Travis Beckum, TE, Wisconsin; DeMarcus Granger, DT, Oklahoma (JR); Curtis Painter, QB, Purdue; Chase Coffman, TE, Missouri; Maurice Evans, DE, Penn State (JR); LeSean McCoy, RB, Pittsburgh (JR); Ciron Black, T, LSU (JR); Herman Johnson, G, LSU; CB Trevor Lindley, CB, Kentucky; Tim Tebow, QB, Florida (JR); Jason Smith, T, Baylor; Brandon Pettigrew, TE, Oklahoma State (JR); B.J. Raji, DT, Boston College; Darius Butler, CB, Connecticut; Patrick Chung, S, Oregon; James Davis, RB, Clemson; Everette Brown, DE, Florida State (JR); Mark Sanchez, QB, USC (JR); D.J. Moore, CB, Vanderbilt (JR); Jarett Dillard, WR, Rice; Javon Ringer, RB, Michigan State; Mike Mickens, CB, Cincinnati.

3 Whites!

I wonder if he got a fatter check for being so "color blind"...

 

[white is right]

Police say ex-Chargers DL Mims found dead at age 38


http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/11037240


It took me a while to recollect something about this player, but I now remember watching a Chargers' game and hearing the broadcasters' gush over him because he attained an 11 sack season. The early 90's seem like ages ago.


An interesting excerpt from the article:

The 6-foot-5 Mims battled weight problems and once referred to himself as the "Fat Doctor" because he often tipped the scales at more than 300 pounds.

Now "certain" players, considered athletes by the media, are pushing the 400 pound mark. That can't be healthy.


http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/players/2064

Above link contains picture.


The absolutely disgusting "glorification" of sumos' just shows how idiotic the Caste media is. The "men" in the media that have a "fetish" for blubbery blacks don't realize how stupid their propaganda really is.

One weird angle in this story is this quote... In 1999, a man claimed Mims attacked him outside a fast-food restaurant and stole his tacos." Wow is this a case of roid rage and hunger pangs rolled into one...

 

[whiteathlete33]

The one question I have is with these guys taking steroids. I know they all do. Doesn't the NFL test for them though? How do they get away with it all the time? There must be some kind of undetected PED they are using.

 

[white is right]

I know at one time the test was on a given date, so it was like an open book exam. Who fails that? Now it could be random. But guys are on HGH which doesn't have a test or Balco type stuff.

 

[FieldThrower]

I don't like obese players of any race. Seriously, there should be a maximum mass-to-height or body fat percentage in the NFL and college. I liked football better when true athletes like Bill Fralic and Howie Long used to play on the line in the 80s. Now every team needs sumos that follow the prototypes of "Fridge" Perry, Warren Sapp, Gilbert Brown, Nate Newton, Tony Siragusa, Lincoln Kennedy, et al.

Football has become more dangerous and slower in the trenches because of the arms race of fat. Let the fatties make their livings as bouncers, competitive eaters, and spokesmen for weight loss systems. Health organizations have already gotten onto the NFL for this very reason.Edited by: FieldThrower

 

[white is right]

I still don't understand how any of them could be anything more than specialists. Ie similar to long snappers or kick off and punt returners. So many of the super fat guys have zero mobility and just take up space. 3rd and inches and 4th and inches I could see the bovine specialists coming in , but not much beyond that.

 

[FieldThrower]

the Caste propaganda machine is in love with super fat ass terrence cody from Alabama.

read this "report" from rivals. it is so pathetically repugnant, i can't even begin to describe it properly.

Says he can dunk a basketball at 6'5", 400+ lbs?

Maybe it's a typo - should be "donut" instead of "basketball".

 

[Don Wassall]

I don't like obese players of any race. Seriously, there should be a minimum mass-to-height or body fat percentage in the NFL and college. I liked football better when true athletes like Bill Fralic and Howie Long used to play on the line in the 80s. Now every team needs sumos that follow the prototypes of "Fridge" Perry, Warren Sapp, Gilbert Brown, Nate Newton, Tony Siragusa, Lincoln Kennedy, et al.

Football has become more dangerous and slower in the trenches because of the arms race of fat. Let the fatties make their livings as bouncers, competitive eaters, and spokesmen for weight loss systems. Health organizations have already got onto the NFL for this very reason.

I agree. Hockey doesn't use 500 pound goalies just to take up space.


I briefly watched a one-hour show on the NFL Network last night about Hank Stram and the Saints preparing for their upcoming game against the Packers in November of 1976. The offensive and defensive linemen,including the black ones,were normal looking other than being taller and more muscular than your average man. No sumos. Most of the players on the team (whichlooked to beabout 3/5white) could be described as lean.


I had football cards going back to the 1960s and have seen older ones. There were no sumos until relatively recently. Ernie Ladd of the AFL was considered a freak in the '60s because he weighed 300 pounds, but he was also something like 6-9.

 

[white is right]

In Paper Lion(the movie) 280+ Roger Brown was told he had to drop 20 pounds by the Lions management. Brown with his shirt off looked thick more than obese. Now they would tell him to load up at the local buffet as he was too skinny.

 

[FieldThrower]

I look back at some of the pro wrestlers of the 80s and 90s, and how many were ex-linemen in football who played in D1-football, CFL, USFL, and even the NFL. Guys like Lex Luger (Larry Pfohl), "Dr. Death" Steve Williams, Ron Simmons, the "Hacksaws" - Jim Duggan and Butch Reed, Bill Goldberg, "Droz", Brian Pillman, Steve Austin (played DE @ UNT), The Rock, and last but not least Steve "Mongo" McMichael.

What strikes me about all these former football linemen is A. many are white, and B. they have little to no bodyfat and some were absolutely shredded. Even Vader (Leon White), while overweight, was still agile and strong.What came over the NFL to move from these types of bodies to the guys that look more like WWE's Bastion Booger, Yokozuna, or King Kong Bundy?

Did the caste system realize that going for shorter, pudgier linemen would favor the blacks? From my personal observation of many years among the common black person, most come in two shapes - trim, tall and athletic (skill players in the NFL and all black NBA players), or somewhat short, and obese (NFL linemen). There really is no in-between if you observe the common (pure-blooded) black male at the swimming pool, gym, or any where else they show their physique. Even in native African tribes, you'll see the occasionally fatso amidst the otherwise skinny people. It truly is a race of physique extremes.

The old type of lineman favored whites as he wasn't grossly fat, but had generous padding. He was also generally taller (most fat blacks are short for some reason) and focused on strength, leverage, and toughness over girth and "explosiveness". Fat blacks do tend to be a hair faster than fat whites and members of other races, but I wouldn't make this as the basis for stocking the position personnel of an entire sport unless I had other, political motives.Edited by: FieldThrower

 

[Deadlift]

Heavy NFL players twice as likely to die before 50

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2313476



Tipping the competitive scales
High school football players are bigger than ever. Is that a good thing?

[url]http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2008/10/05/tipping _the_competitive_scales[/url]


The Lie:

There is no question, coaches say, that high school players today are better trained than those who pulled on shoulder pads in the 1970s or '80s, just like their counterparts playing in college or the NFL.

The Truth:

"They're overweight for the same reason that 80 percent of the rest of the country is overweight," Charlie Stevenson, head coach at Xaverian Brothers High School in Westwood, said, speaking of some of the 300-pounders that he has seen in recent years. "Their diets have been horrible their whole lives. They eat French fries and McDonald's food. They're just obese. It's not that they're hugely muscular."

But Peter Colombo, head coach at Brockton High, said he has had to sit down other players and tell them they need to lose weight if they want to play.

In one such conversation at the end of last season, junior Dan Ohrenberger sat there, stunned. Ohrenberger weighed 320 pounds at the time. He was slow, got winded easily, and his ankles always felt sore. It was like he was "running an 18-wheeler on Toyota tires," Colombo said. And when Colombo told Ohrenberger that he had to lose weight, the player listened.

Now a high school senior, Ohrenberger weighs in at 260, starts at defensive tackle, and, best of all, feels better. The lesson, Colombo said, is that sometimes weight alone does not make a good football player, especially when a 6-foot teenager is carrying 300 pounds.

"They're not able to move well enough to play," Colombo said last week. "If you're carrying extra weight, there's only so many reps a kid can do. He just can't keep it up. Try playing football with an extra 30 pounds on you. Think about that."

Skills (and athleticism/mobility) beat size. Instead of spending all of one's time eating and juicing, smart linemen spend their time accumulating skills and learning the tricks of the trade.

 

[Bear Backer]

In my opinion, the perfect prototypical NFL lineman for today's game should be around 6'3" to 6'6" and weigh around 260 on the low end to 290 on the high end. There should be very few guys who are 300 pounds and over instead of the masses of these fat, overweight, unathletic and unhealthy sumo's that currently disgrace the field. If you really watch the games, alot of these guys can barely move and are not even effective for a whole drive, much less an entire 4 quarters. They aren't strong for their size they are just flabby and fat and regularly get overpowered by smaller DE's who are more in shape and have more stamina. The NFL has tricked itself and the DWF's into believing that you have to have these 320+ pound Sumo's to be successful because a few of them have had moderate success. The truth is though that most of them have failed and are far worse than the smaller white lineman who are still very big by NFL standards over a historical timeline.

 

[Deadlift]

Nothing gluttonous about former Wolverine Long's diet


http://www.freep.com/article/20081022/SPORTS06/81022090/1048


Nice article. Sounds like a cool family.

Congrats on the win against Buffalo!

 

[sport historian]

I don't like obese players of any race. Seriously, there should be a minimum mass-to-height or body fat percentage in the NFL and college. I liked football better when true athletes like Bill Fralic and Howie Long used to play on the line in the 80s. Now every team needs sumos that follow the prototypes of "Fridge" Perry, Warren Sapp, Gilbert Brown, Nate Newton, Tony Siragusa, Lincoln Kennedy, et al. Football has become more dangerous and slower in the trenches because of the arms race of fat. Let the fatties make their livings as bouncers, competitive eaters, and spokesmen for weight loss systems. Health organizations have already got onto the NFL for this very reason.

I agree.  Hockey doesn't use 500 pound goalies just to take up space. 


I briefly watched a one-hour show on the NFL Network last night about Hank Stram and the Saints preparing for their upcoming game against the Packers in November of 1976.  The offensive and defensive linemen, including the black ones, were normal looking other than being taller and more muscular than your average man.  No sumos.  Most of the players on the team (which looked to be about 3/5 white) could be described as lean.  


I had football cards going back to the 1960s and have seen older ones.  There were no sumos until relatively recently.  Ernie Ladd of the AFL was considered a freak in the '60s because he weighed 300 pounds, but he was also something like 6-9.  <!-- Message ''"" -->

I have seen that show. It is one of the NFL Films Lost Treasures. Ernie Ladd was indeed considered exceptionaly large in the 1960's. He was listed at 6ft 9in, and 300 pounds. Ladd was pretty well built, and fairly fast. He did some pro wrestling in the off-season, I believe.

In the 1960's, some of the best defensive tackles did not have the best looking bodies according to Jerry Kramer in his book, Instant Replay. Kramer said something like, "Some of them have paunches that you can see in the locker room, but all of them have muscles that can hurt you on the field." As I remember, Kramer said that Alex Karras and Merlin Olsen (who was an exceptional physical specimen) were the toughest DT's to play against.

 

[Deadlift]

So many White men are big, but lean, very strong and athletic (explosive).



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iETjwka-zPo&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06QHlkgflLQ&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTKWaIXFe08&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBY7WJVQhVQ&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QN3ax7yY6f8&feature=related


Stefan Solvi is 6-4 and very athletic. I would try him at DE.

 

[Jimmy Chitwood]

meanwhile, "Mount" Cody has been sitting on the sidelines with an injured knee that buckled under his own weight in his last game.

i'm sure he's really been hitting the exercise bike during rehab.