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speaking of Milan, I wanted to say that globalism is killing Italian football, For those who don't understand, before the mid-90's many countries in Europe including Italy had restrictions on foreigners that included people from member countries of the European Union, There was even a famous case of Italy itself, which after being eliminated by South Korea in the 1966 world cup closed its doors to foreigners, Creating A restriction of non-foreigners that lasted until the late 1970s and early 1980s, During that time they managed to develop a good generation that was world champion in 1982, After the ban on foreigners was lifted, a limit of 2 was imposed and in the late 1980s the limit was 3.

But in 1993 a Belgian player if I'm not mistaken named Jean-Marc Bosman filed a lawsuit against a Belgian club The process lasted until 1995, This process ended with the creation of the Bosman law, This Law revolutionized European football and consequently World football, Using as a basis the labor laws of the European Union, the verdict of the process gave players more freedoms and Decreased club rights over them (For example before the Bosman Law if a player had 6 months left on his contract he was still Property of the club and would only leave the club if the club wanted , After the Bosman law, the player with 6 months of contract remaining, can sign a contract with another club And go to that club when your remaining 6 months ending and the club that he was at the time could not do anything To stop the player and would not win Any money With the player leaving).

Initially the Law only took effect in the leagues of the European Union countries, but then the rest of the world copied the Bosman law.

But most importantly, all EU member countries leagues were required to not count players from other member countries as foreigners but as community players (Based on european union labor laws), Which means that now a club from one European Union country could have as many players from other member countries as it wanted, Since there were no more restrictions against european union players in European union leagues.

In the case of Italy this affects it profoundly, At the beginning the changes were not noticed as there were great players formed before the Start of Bosman law, That started after 1995 (Baggio, Del piero, Cannavaro, Alessandro nesta, Buffon, Maldini, Totti, Vieri and others, All of these players are formed before 1995) But Today Italian players have declined (With the exception to defenders, there are almost no Italian players formed after 1995/96 who have stood out a lot like Baggio, Del Piero, Totti) italian Clubs now no longer prefer Italian players and now prefer buy Young foreigners from the other European Union countries (de Katelaere is an example) That ending up taking The space of the young Italian players, This causes fewer Italian players to be developed and to gain space in the big clubs and this has affected the italian National Team That for the second time in a row did not qualify for the world cup

Interesting history, thanks for posting this. I remember the Italian restriction on foreigners but did not recall the precedent that led to its overhaul.

Another tough variable that works against Italy is its socialistic tax policy. The top bracket of earners pay 43%, which is much lower than what it used to be but still comparatively high. Italy also taxes your assets, even if you hold them in a foreign country or earned them previously. If you compare the effective tax rate of ~50% to say, France, which is closer to ~35%, a player with a $5 million contract takes home $2.5 million in Italy vs $3.25 million abroad. (I think this the main reason why Donnarumma left Juventus, personally). So, the more Italian stars command in salary, the greater the incentive to play elsewhere. Serie A is left to subsist on young players and foreigners from nations with lower league wages (Africa and the Slavs in particular).
 

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today United lost 2-1 to Brighton (No scoring, as his goal was an own goal by a Brighton player Alexis macallister a Scottish-argentinian) , just wanted to say that this Sancho and rashford are overrated, Very normal players with speed but nothing else, If they were white they would have been chased away from United (like Daniel James, Pretty much the same as Sancho and Rashford a fast player but of average skill), Just knowing that United paid 85 million to Sancho.
 

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Very disappointed to see Werner leave the premiership. Hopefully he gets back on form at his former club and can have a good world cup.
 

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Manchester United embarrassed 4-0 away at Brentford. The Red Devils started just two white Britons (and two black British, the punchless duo of Rashford and Jadon Sancho).

What happened to Chelsea? They were rather white-friendly last season but trotted out just four palefaces in the 2-2 home draw against Tottenham, which started 8 whites (if you count the dusky Argentine Christian Romero). The 'Yid Army' also featured two blacks and a Korean.
 

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Manchester United embarrassed 4-0 away at Brentford. The Red Devils started just two white Britons (and two black British, the punchless duo of Rashford and Jadon Sancho).

What happened to Chelsea? They were rather white-friendly last season but trotted out just four palefaces in the 2-2 home draw against Tottenham, which started 8 whites (if you count the dusky Argentine Christian Romero). The '*** Army' also featured two blacks and a Korean.

Werner gone back to Germany, Christensen gone Barcelona and Saul loan ended. Pulisic and Azpilicueta on bench.

Sancho one of the biggest flops, only now getting mentioned.
 

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Manchester United embarrassed 4-0 away at Brentford. The Red Devils started just two white Britons (and two black British, the punchless duo of Rashford and Jadon Sancho).

What happened to Chelsea? They were rather white-friendly last season but trotted out just four palefaces in the 2-2 home draw against Tottenham, which started 8 whites (if you count the dusky Argentine Christian Romero). The '*** Army' also featured two blacks and a Korean.
I believe that in the case of Tottenham, Be the Italian coach Antonio conte That changed the team, brought in some good white players (dejan kulusevski A Swede of Macedonian descent who looks a bit like a Norse, Rodrigo betancur a uruguayan The two from Juventus, Brought a French Clement lenglet of Barcelona a Frenchman not someone from France Afrique and the croatian ivan perisic That came from the former team of Antônio conte inter of Milano) And sold two blacks (a "dutch" Steven bergwiJn sold to ajax and a Overestimated black American cameron carter-vickers sold to Celtic)

Tottenham this year will be watchable.
 

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Manchester United embarrassed 4-0 away at Brentford. The Red Devils started just two white Britons (and two black British, the punchless duo of Rashford and Jadon Sancho).
Unfortunately, the great scapegoat of the moment for Manchester United has been Maguire, The amount of attack he's been under is abnormal, he's certainly fail in games Where not only does he fail but others do too, but Manchester United can't go goalless against Brentford, And the attack is not his fault, unfortunately he has been the most attacked player in this squad.
 

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a good round of the Champions, Haaland scored twice against Sevilla and lewandowski scored three goals Against Plzen
 

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Dinamo Zagreb's Mislav Orsic scored a whopping breakaway goal as the Croatian side (10 whites and an Iranian) upset Chelsea in their opening game of Champions League play. Orsic absolutely torched the "French" back Fofana for pace. Chelsea paid an $88 million transfer fee for Fofana last week! Orsic came to Zagreb four years ago for just $1.1 million. Perhaps the Blues could have spent their new American owner's money more wisely.

 

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Dinamo Zagreb's Mislav Orsic scored a whopping breakaway goal as the Croatian side (10 whites and an Iranian) upset Chelsea in their opening game of Champions League play. Orsic absolutely torched the "French" back Fofana for pace. Chelsea paid an $88 million transfer fee for Fofana last week! Orsic came to Zagreb four years ago for just $1.1 million. Perhaps the Blues could have spent their new American owner's money more wisely.

Orsic scored three goals againts Spurs and Atalanta a one or two Seasons past, a Great player Strange that no team from the big leagues even medium or small was not interested in him
 

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Lewandowski has made a great start. Think Haaland has taken the title of best striker though.

Great to have them both!
 

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Lewandowski has made a great start. Think Haaland has taken the title of best striker though.

Great to have them both!
Keeping the tradition of great white strikers. Like Bobo Vieri, van basten, denis Law, Kenny dalglish, gerd Muller, van basten, Gunnar Nordhal (great swedish that played for Milan in the 50s), Batistuta, ferenc Puskás and many others.
 
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This fortnight old image of the frontpage of a British Newspaper sums up everything that has gone wrong with the sport.

They will keep flooding all the top leagues with useless blacks till something changes.
 

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This fortnight old image of the frontpage of a British Newspaper sums up everything that has gone wrong with the sport.

They will keep flooding all the top leagues with useless blacks till something changes.
Welcome back, dude! Good to see you posting.
 

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Six whites starting for Bayern versus seven whites for Barcelona. Both sides will bring in black substitutes. Hard to get too excited about what would traditionally be an epic clash of contrasting European styles (and nationalities).
 

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This fortnight old image of the frontpage of a British Newspaper sums up everything that has gone wrong with the sport.

They will keep flooding all the top leagues with useless blacks till something changes.
unfortunately the football market is horrible, Haaland probably cost less than dembele from Barcelona, lewandowski It came out costing less than Fofana of Chelsea that was bent by the orsic from dinamo zagreb (Cuteness cost 80 million) A very different scenario from the early 2000s where the biggest transfers were practically all white players.
 

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Haaland and Foden with hat tricks against Man Utd...

Haaland has scored a hat trick in three consecutive home games.

Fastest players to 3 hat tricks in premier League history ....

Haaland - 8 games
And the next closest

Owen - 48 games.

We are watching a once in a lifetime player .... Enjoy folks!
 

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Haaland and Foden with hat tricks against Man Utd...

Haaland has scored a hat trick in three consecutive home games.

Fastest players to 3 hat tricks in premier League history ....

Haaland - 8 games
And the next closest

Owen - 48 games.

We are watching a once in a lifetime player .... Enjoy folks!
surely there are some who will be sad, they were thinking that mbappe would dominate, but Haaland appeared, at first they belittled him in Borussia saying that the bundesliga was a league of farmers Now he's doing the same thing he did in the bundesliga he's actually doing better in Premier League that in bundesliga
 
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