Shifting minority demographic in contemporary Germany (Muslims taking over Jews)

[frederic38]

http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/erdogan-urges-turks-not-to-assimilate-you-are-part-of-germany-but-also-part-of-our-great-turkey-a-748070.html

wow, i had no idea that it was like this with the turks of germany

These people came here in the mid/late sixties at the request of the Turkish government. That one asked the native population, I think that goes without saying. At the time they started to pour into the country, it was practically rebuilt, the economy thriving and unemployment was not a problem at all, but at the same time the economy had no real use for an extra share of workers, so they were used for lowering wages. Oddly enough, I have met several Turks that really believe that they have rebuilt this country after the Second World War, and they are 100% serious about it.

same here
officially they rebuilt france after world war 2
like you said, in reality, it's all about lowering the wages: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_dumping

this is what happens when you think with your belly

in the european culture, the society was seen as man (organicism)
for example, see plato's chariot allegory:

The Charioteer represents intellect, reason, or the part of the soul that must guide the soul to truth; one horse represents rational or moral impulse or the positive part of passionate nature (e.g., righteous indignation); while the other represents the soul's irrational passions, appetites, or concupiscent nature. The Charioteer directs the entire chariot/soul, trying to stop the horses from going different ways

Parts of the Soul	Rational (2)	Spirited (3)	Appetitive (1)
Chariot Part	Charioteer	White noble horse on the Right	Black ugly horse on the Left
Loves	Truth, Wisdom and Analysing	Honour and Victory	Pleasure, Money, Comfort, Physical Satisfaction
Desires	Truth	Self-Preservation	Basic Instincts � Hunger, Thirst, Warmth, Sex�etc.
The Virtue	Wisdom	Courage	Temperance
The Vice	Pride and Sloth	Anger and Envy	Gluttony, Lust and Greed
Body Symbol	Head	Heart	Belly/Genitals
Class in Republic	Guardians(The Philosopher King)	Auxiliaries/Soldiers(Keep the workers in their place)	Merchants/Workers(Self interested)

http://www.scandalon.co.uk/philosophy/plato_tripartite_soul.htm

pay especially attention to the virtues, body symbol, and class:

the guardians: wisdom, head
the auxiliaries/soldiers: courage, heart
merchant/workers: belly/genitals

it was the same in the very first indo-european (aryan) text, the rig veda:

When they divided Puruṣa how many portions did they make?
What do they call his mouth, his arms? What do they call his thighs and feet?
The Brahman was his mouth, of both his arms was the Rājanya (kshatriyas) made.
His thighs became the Vaiśya, from his feet the Śūdra was produced.

http://sacred-texts.com/hin/rigveda/rv10090.htm

the brahmins are the head because they must command the rest of body/society

in today's europe, the head was cut, and we are governed by the belly

"capitalism", "communism", they are all the same, they think with the belly, economy is the only thing that matters to them
if they need to bring more inmigrants in to lower the wages and be more competitive, they'll do it
only nazism was european in modern times

 

[Rebajlo]

Don Wassall asked me to only post in the boxing forum for a period of one year, which I have completed. So, now I am able to post in this forum. Keep in mind I also had an account "BoxingSpecialist" before this one, and in that account I would have been a member for more than 1.5 years. So I have met his request!

I don't post very often and my posts are not meant to offend anyone. I don't mean to be rude, but if my posts bother you you always have the option of ignoring me or not posting in them. I really don't mean to start a fight. Rather I would encourage, civil, friendly discussion.

I enjoy this site and I have learned so much from it. I still continue to learn more as I go along. I do believe in discussing my opinions and even on a site like this, despite that we all agree on core principles, we may have small disagreements on other issues (such as this).

That's perfectly fine, and we can agree to disagree politely in such cases!

BoxingSpecialist2 -

Look, it isn't my wish to be discourteous but you appear to be banging your head against an unbreakable wall with all of these Muslim / Persian-related threads.

You obviously seek validation of your assertions about the "compatibility" of so-called "white Muslims" with "racially aware Whites". The problem lies in the fact that Muslims are fundamentally incompatible with healthy White civilisation / society and any White Nationalist worth his salt naturally knows this. As Caste Football is a pro-White site populated by pro-White posters people aren't going to share your "all inclusive" fantasies.

With all due respect, I refer to your claims as "fantasies" because that's precisely what they constitute. You describe the attitudes and behaviour of Arabs, Turks and Iranians not as they are, but how you wish to see them, for what you are alleging has absolutely no basis in reality.

There's no need for me to repeat or expand upon the 100% valid points made by frederic38 and Arend, which speak for themselves. These two fellows are, respectively, genuine Frenchmen and Germans who live in France and Germany and therefore witness the "enriching cultures" of Arabs, Turks and other Muslims first-hand on a large scale. Such "culture" consists of violent crime, gangs, rapes, welfare fraud, filthy "no go" ghettoes, a burning hatred of Whites, et cetera. Sounds familiar?

It seems that you are either:

(a) utterly disingenuous

(b) have no idea whatsoever about the problems Muslims cause wherever they are, or

(c) simply dismiss reports of these problems as Jewish propaganda and delude yourself into thinking that such issues do not exist

I'm no moderator so feel free to post about whatever you like, but you aren't about to convince anyone - let alone "racially aware" Whites - of a fictional White-Muslim cultural brotherhood. Keep in mind that just because both groups despise Jews ultimately means naff all...

 

[BoxingSpecialist2]

Pointless thread. The german right movement is based on getting rid of the muslims.

You're absolutely 100% wrong in your statement here.

The German far right has consistently SUPPORTED MUSLIMS and IRANIANS today and throughout history.

The German far right, in its most significant sense is based on getting rid of Jews and Jewish influence first and foremost and removing Jews from the social hierarchy. This is still the goal of many German right wingers today, and throughout history obviously has been the primary goal as well.

Yes, it is true that many German right wingers would want Germany to be made up of an exclusively German population, this would be free of ALL MINORITIES, not just Muslims (There is no anti-Muslim expression by right wing Germans as you are implying).

Quite the contrary, the German far right has consistently SUPPORTED Muslims on numerous occasions, even staging rallies to support Iranians and Arabs. Do you understand that? If you had read the article I'd given you (here it is, once again:http://www.cdn-friends-icej.ca/antiholo/germany.html) you'd understand that the German far right has shown a lot of support for IRANIAN MUSLIMS as well as ARAB MUSLIMS, staging rallies to support these groups.

I would like you to consider why right wing Germans would support Muslims, and mainly Iranians? Think about it for a minute and consider that maybe the goals of white Germans and Iranians are the same.

The reason why right wing Germans support Iranians today has to do with Iran's anti-Zionist, pro-Aryan stance. Iranian government is known as being friendly to MANY pro white and extreme right wing groups. David Duke has also made numerous trips to Iran and has said nothing but good things about Iran and Iranians.

Additionally, as I mentioned, there has been a traditional and historical partnership between Nazis and Muslims. In WW2, Nazis allied with most white Muslims, also allying with many Arab Muslims overseas. The concept of "Aryan" as used by Hitler was taken from the same concept that exists in Persian culture, "Aryan" literally means "Iran", the name of their country. Similarily, many Persians consider themselves of a pure Aryan race and this is where the concept originated from (they used it to distinguish themselves from Afghans, Mongols, Arabs, Turks). Ive also read that Hitler had a great opinion of Iran.

Hitler, and far German right wing politics are seen as heroic by many in Iran and the overall Muslim World as an anti-Zionist and pro-Aryan expression.

For you to deny the support and overall courteous relations between Muslims and Nazis, or Muslims and far right Germans is absolutely ridiculous on your part.

 

[BoxingSpecialist2]

The muslims in germany are the same as the negros in the US.

This is quite possibly the most absurd, ridiculous, and statistically fallacious comment Ive ever read on this website, or maybe even the entire Internet. The extent of murder and criminal behaviour of Negroes in USA is not paralleled anywhere else in the world, and its extremely irresponsible for you to suggest that it is. The rate of interracial crime in the USA (blacks killing whites) does not even come remotely close to being equalled anywhere else in the entire world.

You clearly do not understand the utterly MASSIVE statistical extent of interracial crime in USA (Negroes murdering, raping, and assaulting whites) to have made such an illogical and incorrect statement. Negroes are world leaders in crime and interracial crime, and their achievement in crime is not even close to being met by any other racial group.

Your comparison of Muslims in Germany to American Negroes is retarded to say the least. Its certainly not based on any sort of logic or statistic fact. Muslims are statistically, much, much more law abiding and much, much less violent than Negroes.

I really would expect better on this website.

http://www.ourcivilisation.com/usa/racewar.htm

Take a look at that link, which has figures based on data collected from the FBI and US Department of Justice (the most reliable and pretty much the only sources when talking about crime, or interracial crime in the USA).

Some of the findings you'll notice is that approximately 2,000 whites are murdered by blacks in USA per year. And from a period of 1964-1994, more than 40,000 whites were murdered by blacks.

At a rate of 2,000 murders per year, we can estimate that approximately 76,000 whites have been murdered by blacks in the USA since 1964 to today. If you factor in rape, or just violent assault, quite literally a white family has a greater than 50% chance of being a victim of black crime at some point in their lives in the USA. If you were to factor in rape and assault, there would be literally millions upon millions of white victims to black perps in the States in that same time period.

Quite literally, you could almost argue that a mini-Holocaust is occurring to whites in the USA. Thats the scale of crime here. That's a sad reality but a reality nonetheless.

Statistically speaking, when it comes to murder, rape, violent assault, no other racial group comes close to the behaviour of the Negro. Jamaica and South Africa are by far the most violent and criminal-laden countries in the World (this is statistically supported), and American Negroes aren't too far behind. The interesting phenomenon in the USA is not just the astounding rate of black on white crime, but the complete media censorship of it.

Multiculturalism in the USA is a disaster principally because of Negro crime and self inflicted poverty. Quite literally, with the amount of whites murdered by blacks I would say its a National Crisis and I would also argue that due to media coverup, it can be interpreted as a form of early genocide.

On the other hand, Germany is one of the safest countries in the World and is known as having an extremely low (almost nonexistent) murder rate. (Source, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate#By_country) Clearly, that is correlated with the fact there are much less Negroes in Germany. I would also bet that the rate of Muslim-on-white violence in Germany is relatively nonexistent, certainly nowhere even close to being anywhere near the rate of the American Negro in the USA. Understand in the USA, you literally have about 300,000+ white victims to black perps per year.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

A quick glance at that link will make you aware that nobody murders on the level of the Negro, and in terms of interracial crime, it happens in by far the greatest extent in the USA.

Your attempt to compare Muslims in Germany to the violent, murdering, and raping nature of Negroes in the USA is COMPLETELY FALSE. Compared to the American Negro, Muslims are extremely peaceful and respectful. The rate of murder by Muslims is Germany is essentially nonexistent (close to 0), whereas black on white murder numbers at 2,000 per year and is a National Crisis in USA.

Youre actually doing this site and community a disservice with your ridiculous and untrue comment. Ill give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're not that stupid, but your comment is clearly not based on logic and out the god damn window to say the least. COMPLETELY RIDICULOUS.

German Muslims >>>>>>>>>>>>> American Negroes
German Multiculturalism >>>>>>>>>>>>>> American Multiculturalism

I expect an apology from you and to save face you should admit that you're completely wrong. As a pro white Muslim man, I find your comment EXTREMELY OFFENSIVE and I would expect a more intelligent level on this site.

 

[BoxingSpecialist2]

The amount of Black on White murder (literally 2,000+ Black on White murders per year in USA) as a form of interracial crime is not equaled anywhere else in the world.

American Negroes murder 2,000+ whites in the USA per year (That's 76,000 total murders since 1964 according to the FBI), Muslim immigrants in Germany probably murder less than 10 white Germans in Germany per year. (Source, http://www.ourcivilisation.com/usa/racewar.htm). Understand this difference in behaviour of nonwhite populations, a dsicrepancy of 1990 murders per year and granted, I am estimating the rate of Muslim-on-white violence in Germany, but it should be fairly accurate. The fact is Germany has an almost nonexistent murder rate for all races (easy to do when you have a non-Negro population).

For someone to try and equate Muslims, or any other racial group with Negroes is statistically incorrect, fallacious and ultimately irresponsible. Irresponsible comparison which takes away from Negro crime and falsely encourages anti-Islamic sentiment. Comments like that actually harm the content of this site and work against pro white causes.

I just hope others on this site will see the truth: Muslims are comparatively GOOD, PEACEFUL immigrants, Negroes are BAD, VIOLENT immigrants. Murder, assault, and rape statistics don't lie.

PS) badmouthing Muslims is exactly what the Jewish and Zionist agenda would want out of white Christians. Same type of propaganda that got USA involved in Iraq, and possibly Iran in the future.

 

[chris371]

This is directed at the actual caste football members, not the persian princess: Im not going to waste my time arguing with an overweight turkish midget. Rest assured that conservative and right wing germans despise muslims. Perhaps Rebelajo can add something on this subject, as im sure the Aussies have similar attitudes to the muslims in their country.

As for evidence:[video=youtube;VqXPWZBbQ68]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqXPWZBbQ68[/video]

Here a Muslim Family attacks German cops. This is just one example of multiculturalism. I have personally experienced plenty.

Ive seldom met ( in college or work) a muslim who isnt a complete retard. Our resident Donkey-screwer at caste football fits the mould perfectly.

 

[chris371]

Oh yes, the largest German Right wing movement has a "NO MOSQUE ALLOWED " sign as its LOGO. I guess thats because they support arabs so much



Get owned much, Turk? Here you see the supposed "friendship between germans and islam "



[video=youtube;52darKphkVI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52darKphkVI[/video]

 

[Arend]

German Muslims >>>>>>>>>>>>> American Negroes
German Multiculturalism >>>>>>>>>>>>>> American Multiculturalism

I think you don’t think have any idea what is at stake for us. To make a long story short, it’s our whole existent as a people, our culture and customs; what we are and what we were. We survived Asiatic Invasions, including those of the Ottomans. We survived the Black Death, the Thirty Years' War, Napoleon, and Two World Wars. But how long do you think we can survive our “superior†form of Multiculturalism? 100 years? 50 years? 30 years? With our Multicultural society as it is now, that is by the way in fact not Multicultural but multiracial, it will only be a matter of time until we fade away.

Shameless self-quote:

Some ? I think you haven’t got the faintest idea what you are actually talking about. They lie, they cheat, they murder, they loot, they rape, like it is their god given right to do so, and even after that they still constantly complain about racism against them (!) how unfair they are treated here. These people always demand “respect†– for what exactly? – And do you think they would ever respect a native ? Our elders? Our woman? They came here uninvited as economic migrants, and now that they have decided to stay they will stay as conquerors, with the friendly assistance of the Turkish government.
Trust me on this one; I know what I am talking about.

I assume that you’ve never actually been to Germany (Or Austria, Switzerland or the Netherlands) before. Come and see for yourself how exactly these people are behaving here.

The rate of murder by Muslims is Germany is essentially nonexistent (close to 0)

Susanna, 18 years old. Murdered by a Pakistani “asylum seekerâ€
Kevin Wiegand, 18, murdered by an Iraqi “asylum seekerâ€
Claudia K, 27, murdered by her Turkish Husband.
23 year old men (name unknown), stabbed by a Turk.
25 year old women, murdered by a Turk.
Fabian S, 29 years old, murdered by 4 Turks.
Kevin Plum, 19 years old, stabbed a Lebanese.
Sandra H, 18 years old killed by a Tunisian.
Katharina H, choked to death by a Turk.
Jörg Hass, 35 years, killed by two Turks.
David Fischer, 20 years old, killed by an Afghan “asylum seekerâ€
14 year old girl (name unknown), raped and killed by Libyan.
Ramona S, drowned by a Lebanese.

Just a few. That list is not complete. Not even close.

 

[davidholly]

People badmouth Muslims not because a Jew tells them to but because Muslims are scum. They've been scum since they began, only back then our ancestors knew they were scum.

 

[BoxingSpecialist2]

I think you don’t think have any idea what is at stake for us. To make a long story short, it’s our whole existent as a people, our culture and customs; what we are and what we were. We survived Asiatic Invasions, including those of the Ottomans. We survived the Black Death, the Thirty Years' War, Napoleon, and Two World Wars. But how long do you think we can survive our “superior” form of Multiculturalism? 100 years? 50 years? 30 years?

I understand that not all Germans will appreciate multiculturalism in Germany, and I certainly don't blame them for wanting to keep Germany free of non-Germans. That is their right and I don't see any problem with that.

However you are statistically misguided if you think the situation in Germany is worse than the situation in USA. Germany, all things considered, is a much, much safer place than the USA and also has a much higher standard of living.

I assume that you’ve never actually been to Germany (Or Austria, Switzerland or the Netherlands) before. Come and see for yourself how exactly these people are behaving here.

I havent been to Germany, but I have female family members who live in Germany and they are Bosniak (White Muslim) immigrants. One of them is married to a white, German man. Perhaps one day in the future I would visit Germany as a guest. Of course I respect the culture and history of the country so I would come to enjoy a holiday and that is all.

Susanna, 18 years old. Murdered by a Pakistani “asylum seeker”
Kevin Wiegand, 18, murdered by an Iraqi “asylum seeker”
Claudia K, 27, murdered by her Turkish Husband.
23 year old men (name unknown), stabbed by a Turk.
25 year old women, murdered by a Turk.
Fabian S, 29 years old, murdered by 4 Turks.
Sandra H, 18 years old killed by a Tunisian.
Katharina H, choked to death by a Turk.
Jörg Hass, 35 years, killed by two Turks.
David Fischer, 20 years old, killed by an Afghan “asylum seeker”
14 year old girl (name unknown), raped and killed by Libyan.

Just a few. That list is not complete. Not even close.

Lebanese are Christian, they are not Muslim, similar to Armenians and are usually considered "white" or at least the "whitest" of the Arabs. So you can remove that from your list, theyre not Muslim.

Now, that's really not a lot of murders, you've posted a total of 11 murders done by Muslims over presumably several years in Germany. Yes it's sad that those people died, but 11 murders is very small to be honest. Negroes in the USA would do 11 murders on whites per day, literally.

I am not exaggerating in the least bit when I say that there are approximately 2,000 whites killed by blacks in the USA per year. I am being extremely literal, and its a reported statistic by several sources (namely, the FBI and US Dept. of Justice). You can read that statistic, once again here: http://www.ourcivilisation.com/usa/racewar.htm (The author, Paul Sheehan, notes a recorded 45,000 interracial murders between 1964-1994, of which he says 90% were black on white, or roughly 40,000 of which, roughly 1,500 murders per year in that timeframe). Since we know that the overall homicide number in the USA is steadily increasing with the population, it can certainly be estimated that there are roughly 2,000 of these murders happening currently per year. The FBI lists several hundred black-on-white murders per year, but conveniently, omits about half of all murder data that takes place in the USA (according to their website they omit data when race is perceived as "unknown").

Are Muslims in Germany killing anywhere close to 2,000 whites a year? No of course not. Granted, Germany is a smaller country. But I'd say that Muslims are probably committing murder at a rate of about 10 or 20 per year in Germany, and mostly against other Muslims, not white Germans.

Let me ask you a simple question: What is the average frequency of murders per year in Germany that are perpetrated by Muslims on white Germans?

I'll give you a hint, that number is nowhere near the 2,000 mark of Negroes killing whites in the USA. Its inifinitely lower.

That would indicate to me that multiculturalism in Germany is working out far better than it is in the USA. And comments like this:

The muslims in germany are the same as the negros in the US.

Have no statistical basis whatsoever, because the interracial murder rate, rape rate, and assault rate is inifinitely (literally several hundred times) higher in the USA with Negroes than it is in Germany.

 

[BoxingSpecialist2]

Once again, I will reiterate my question to the Germans (chris and Arend) in this thread:

What is the average number of murders that occur in Germany per year, which are perpetrated by Muslim nonwhites on white Germans?

Please directly answer that and let's compare that to the fact that approximately 2,000 whites are murdered per year by blacks in the USA. And according to the article I posted above, 40,000 whites were murdered by blacks from 1964-1994. Then we can talk about which race of minority is safer and which type of multiculturalism is better for the host (white) population.

 

[werewolf]

People badmouth Muslims not because a Jew tells them to but because Muslims are scum. They've been scum since they began, only back then our ancestors knew they were scum.

Hitler respected Islam as a warrior creed, and Moslems served the Reich in the SS and elsewhere (as did righteous Jews!). It is, however, a monotheistic creed alien to the white man.

The only reason that the USA and western Europe is being inundated and trashed by the alien hordes is because our Jewish "friends" have deliberately engineered it to happen, as with the US Immigration Act of the 1960's, which was entirely Jewish written. Ted Kennedy was only their shabbat goy front man. Germany has been under Jewish occupation since 1945.

Personally I'd like to put the whole lot of them, Zhids, Mohammedans, and the Christian zealots too, all those narrow minded and cruel middle eastern monotheists, on a big island and let them all kill each other to their heart's content and please their bloodthirsty "G_d", and leave the rest of the planet in peace.



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[davidholly]

Lebanese are Christian, they are not Muslim, similar to Armenians and are usually considered "white" or at least the "whitest" of the Arabs. So you can remove that from your list, theyre not Muslim.

That was true 100 years ago, before Muslims started to outbreed the Christians and have now replaced them.

 

[davidholly]

Once again, I will reiterate my question to the Germans (chris and Arend) in this thread:

What is the average number of murders that occur in Germany per year, which are perpetrated by Muslim nonwhites on white Germans?

Please directly answer that and let's compare that to the fact that approximately 2,000 whites are murdered per year by blacks in the USA. And according to the article I posted above, 40,000 whites were murdered by blacks from 1964-1994. Then we can talk about which race of minority is safer and which type of multiculturalism is better for the host (white) population.

Your question can't be answered because as far as I know the German police don't keep crime stats that cover racial perpetrators. That said comparing them to blacks is completely irrelevant, you're just comparing them to the most violent group and saying "See they're not so bad", by that asinine logic USA should be welcoming Mexicans left and right.

 

[chris371]

Deliktgruppe (crime)	Aufklärungsrate	Anzahl Straftaten		davon Ausländer (Foreigners)	in %	% of Population
Mord und Totschlag (Murder)	95,5 %	5.889	1.457	24,7 %	8,8 %
Körperverletzung (assault)	83,2 %	159.512	38.128	23,9 %
Vergewaltigung (rape)	82,9 %	6.868	2037	29,7 %
Diebstahl (theft)	29,7 %	536.198	111.807	20,9 %
Raub, räub. Erpressung	51,5 %	33.988	9786	28,8 %
Verbrechen gegen die Umwelt	57,9 %	11.859	1.507	12,7

From : http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ausländerkriminalität#Ausl.C3.A4nderspezifische_Straftaten

Here are the numbers of crimes committed by foreigners in Germany in 2006. 29,7% of rapes are committed by foreigners. 80% of these are by our muslim friends.

(see : http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php...tensivtäter.png&filetimestamp=20100410163731

foriegners are only 8,8 % of the population, so they are 3 times more likely to commit rape than Germans (im not picking on foreigners as a whole- i have an Asian Roommate and plenty of exchange student buddies from the USA, Im pretty sure its not Asian and american exchange students doing all this raping).

Also- lots of muslims have a german passport and therefore are counted as german in this statistic. Therefore the actual number of muslim rapes in germany is higher than this statistic suggest. There is no flip side to this argument, as there are no germans that have a turkish passports raping women in germany.

So dear CF bretheren ( as Dixie would say) I do not take kindly to the arab turd ilk that rape and murder at a rate that would make american blacks jealous.

Edit : excuse the bad copy paste job on the stats. Check to original link, and use google translator if you dont want to rely on my word. Its all there.

 

[Rebajlo]

I expect an apology from you and to save face you should admit that you're completely wrong. As a pro white Muslim man, I find your comment EXTREMELY OFFENSIVE and I would expect a more intelligent level on this site.

If you are going to "demand" apologies, how about demanding one from the shades of your Bosniak ancestors who betrayed their kinsmen by converting to Islam and thereby forfeited their "membership" of the White race?

Have you ever heard of the "36 Boys"? No? Well, here is a video which provides an example of the Turkish garbage which Germans are forced to put up with in their own country:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdJrC8n7aO0

Can you see any Whites? I certainly can't, for all I see is dirty Muslim vermin which has no place in Europe (or, in an ideal world, anywhere on the planet)...

These inbred, hairy-eared farmyard animal-shafters are unsurprisingly also making a nuisance of themselves in England:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11325134

Yet again, I don't see any Whites in the photos.

The most high-profile rape case in Australian history involved...who else but LEBANESE MUSLIMS, who specifically targetted White, Anglo-Celtic girls:

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/07/13/1026185124700.html

Here's a clip of a news story dating from 2007. Yet again, it features LEBANESE MUSLIMS:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npqArd9XFSw

The overwhelming majority of shootings here in New South Wales occur in heavily Muslim-populated south-western Sydney, with the perpetrators invariably described as being of "Middle Eastern appearance" - usually those Lebanese Muslims who you claim don't exist. Just like all of the flea-ridden "Islamic scholars" Muslims slavishly defer to, you appear to know bugger all about anything...

Just for good measure, below is a recent story featuring the activities of one of your fellow Bosnians in Australia:

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/r...m-returns-to-preach-jihad-20121103-28rac.html

Are you proud of your Bosnian Muslim ancestry?

Do you have any other startlingly erudite arguments you wish to air, balija?

Best stick to those Muslim "women" (sponsored by Sasquatch Ultra Heavy Duty Depilatory Cream - now available in a handy one-gallon bucket!) and leave the thinking - and the White girls - to genuine White men...

Close the door behind you on the way out...

 

[BoxingSpecialist2]

First of all let me say that although I come from a white, European Muslim family, I am entirely non-religious, don't practice my religion in any way, and I certainly would never force my religious beliefs on anyone else. I think actually the most appropriate word for me would be "atheist". There is a chance I might become religious later on in life, but for now, I don't follow any religion.

If you are going to "demand" apologies, how about demanding one from the shades of your Bosniak ancestors who betrayed their kinsmen by converting to Islam and thereby forfeited their "membership" of the White race?

Can you see any Whites? I certainly can't, for all I see is dirty Muslim vermin which has no place in Europe (or, in an ideal world, anywhere on the planet)...

Race is entirely biological and has nothing to do with what religion someone follows, or what their political ideas are.

If you would neglect and outcast whites because of their religion (Muslim), you should also neglect and outcast the millions of American, English, Canadian, Dutch, and German white Liberals who preach a rhetoric and way of life that is self-destructive, more so than Islam could ever be.

Do you also denounce white Liberals, gays, and feminists? (Because this type of rheotric I would argue is much more self destructive than Islam)

Just a heads up for you, Rebaljo, that some of the best white athletes of today are white Muslims:

(above) Zlatan Ibrahimovich, one of the best and most famous strikers in the World Today is a Yugoslav Muslim who was brought up in Sweden.

(above) Felix Sturm (Adnan Catic), professional white Muslim boxer who is a former two time world champion (reigning from 2004-2006, then 2007-2012), and in 2003 became one of the notable first Europeans to gain some prominence in the mainstream view of Boxing when he fought Oscar De La Hoya.

(above right) Marco Huck (Muamer Hukic), professional white Muslim boxer who is a former world champion and is quite popular in Germany. Relatively young so potentially his best is still to come.

Clearly, from looking at photos of said athletes, you can see they are white and should be considered as such. Rebaljo comments are ridiculous and I'm sure he would conveniently overlook the religion of said athletes to consider their achievements "white".

For me, religion is a complete non issue, and of course there are also amazing white Christian athletes, but it is discouraging to see racially aware whites try and argue that white Muslims shouldn't be considered white.

 

[BoxingSpecialist2]

Deliktgruppe (crime)	Aufklärungsrate	Anzahl Straftaten		davon Ausländer (Foreigners)	in %	% of Population
Mord und Totschlag (Murder)	95,5 %	5.889	1.457	24,7 %	8,8 %
Körperverletzung (assault)	83,2 %	159.512	38.128	23,9 %
Vergewaltigung (rape)	82,9 %	6.868	2037	29,7 %
Diebstahl (theft)	29,7 %	536.198	111.807	20,9 %
Raub, räub. Erpressung	51,5 %	33.988	9786	28,8 %
Verbrechen gegen die Umwelt	57,9 %	11.859	1.507	12,7

From : http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ausländerkriminalität#Ausl.C3.A4nderspezifische_Straftaten

Here are the numbers of crimes committed by foreigners in Germany in 2006. 29,7% of rapes are committed by foreigners. 80% of these are by our muslim friends.

(see : http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php...tensivtäter.png&filetimestamp=20100410163731

foriegners are only 8,8 % of the population, so they are 3 times more likely to commit rape than Germans (im not picking on foreigners as a whole- i have an Asian Roommate and plenty of exchange student buddies from the USA, Im pretty sure its not Asian and american exchange students doing all this raping).

What you've done here is just stupid and irrelevant on so many levels.

I gave you NUMBERS of interracial murders in USA (Black on white) and I specifically asked you to tell me the NUMBER of WHITE GERMANS that are murdered by MUSLIMS (I would have even settled for simply NONWHITES), and not only did you fail to directly answer me, but you responded by giving PERCENTAGES about NON INTERRACIAL CRIME.

You chose the wrong criterion and you also strayed completely off topic by including total crime rates as opposed to interracial rates.

At this point, I'm honestly questioning if you are retarded (or maybe you don't understand what I'm saying due to a language barrier?), because you clearly don't have the most basic understanding of statistics and your comparison makes no sense whatsoever and has nothing to do with interracial crime.

 

[BoxingSpecialist2]

Please take a look at this link, which provides basic murder information by country:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2011/oct/10/world-murder-rate-unodc

You will notice that:

- There are 690 total murders occurring in Germany per year. (A rate of 0.8 per 100,000 persons)

- There are 15,241 total murders occurring in USA per year. (A rate of 5 per 100,000 persons)

Looking, at that website you can see that Germany is actually one of the safest countries in the entire world. Literally, I couldn't think of a safer place to live, perhaps Switzerland, Luxembourg, and some very small countries, and thats about it. It has an extremely low number of total murders and an even more impressive murder rate.

To put it in perspective, Canada is generally (and correctly) thought of as being safe country, and has 610 murder per year at a rate of 1.8. So, Canada has roughly the same amount of murders as Germany, but Canada is more than twice as small in terms of population.

Now, let's start talking about the racial (and more importantly, interracial) dynamics of crime in Germany and the USA:

According to the table posted by Chris371, 24.7% of murders in Germany are done by foreigners.

***Please note that one of the problems with Chris371's data is that it has an implied racial data, but no actual racial data. "Foreigner" is VERY ambiguous and it could mean BLACKS, it could also mean Eastern European Whites (there are a lot of Russians and Polaks in Germany), and of course it can also mean Muslim Arabs, Turks, or Persians.

Just to illustrate how TOTALLY WRONG Chris371 is, I will incorrectly assume that ALL FOREIGNERS are Muslim Nonwhites. Of course, that is not true, and it is actually OVERESTIMATING THE RATE OF MUSLIM murder, but just to prove how wrong he is, I will assume that:

So keep in mind that actually, these numbers OVERESTIMATE the rate of Muslim murder in Germany:

That means, 0.247 X 690 = 170 Murders per year committed by foreigners (Muslims) in Germany.

In the USA, of the 15,241 murders, roughly half are committed by blacks. According to this wikipedia article, 48%, or just under half of all homicides were committed by blacks in the USA in 2010. I know for a fact that in years past this 48% rate has been over 50%, but we'll use this 2010 data which indicates a rate of total black murder at 48% (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime_in_the_United_States#Murder).

That means, 0.48 X 15,241 = 7,315 Murders per year committed by Blacks in USA.

According to Chris371 foreigners (Muslims) in Germany number 8.8% of the German population, this translates to 7,216,000 total foreigners living in Germany, who account for 170 murders, at a total rate of 0.00002 murders per foreigner.

Blacks comprise roughly 13% of the population in USA, which translates to 40,950,000, who account for 7,315 murders, at a total rate of 0.0002 murders per black.

Taking population differences into account, 0.002 is an entire tenth greater than 0.0002, so this means Blacks are literally 10 times more likely to murder someone than a German foreigner (Muslim).

Now, let's talk about Interracial murder, or for the purpose of this site, the rate at which Blacks murder whites in the USA, and the rate at which Muslims murder whites in Germany.

Based on a sample of 6,284 murders out of a possible 15,241 murders (ignoring 8957 murders that also took place that year) in USA in 2010, there were 447 whites murdered by blacks in 2010 according to the FBI (Source: http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2010/crime-in-the-u.s.-2010/tables/10shrtbl06.xls).

However, as Ive just pointed out, there are 15,241 murders in the USA per year, so clearly, that graph is missing racial information on 8957 murders. The reason it is missing information (also explained on the website by the FBI) is because racial data is not recorded in all murder cases, and when either the race of victim or perpetrator is unknown or unrecorded, this data is NOT RECORDED. This is why approximately 10,000 murders (or two third's of all murders) are left out of the FBI's racial database.

Personally I would suggest that there is a degree of racial bias and sensitivity that causes a coverup and non reporting of black on white murders, but Ill leave that out of this discussion for now.

Since 447 black on white murders, out of a sample of 6284 total murders implies that black-on-white murder occurs at a 7% ratio of all murders in USA, we can say that at minimum, approximately 1,066 whites are murdered per year by blacks in USA.

Thus, at the absolute statistical minimum, 1,066 whites are murdered by blacks per year in the USA.

Earlier in this thread I stated that about 2,000 whites are killed by blacks per year in USA, and I stand by that statement. 1066 whites killed by blacks is the statistical bare minimum. I would go further and suggest that the data is biased in the sense that black on white murder is systematically unreported and covered up. I don't necessarily believe that the "7%" carries over to the rest of murders, rather I would assume there is a disproportionate amount of black on white killing that goes unreported by the FBI.

Since there is no data on the rate of interracial crime in Germany, for purposes of a fair comparison, we have no choice but to apply the same rate (or 7% of all murders) to foreigners in Germany.

Thus using the same rate, you would yield that foreigners (Muslims) kill on average only about 48 white Germans per year.

In conclusion, American Negroes kill other Negroes, and kill whites at a rate that is *unparalleled* and greatly exceeds anywhere else in the developed world. To see comparable kinds of murder rates, we would need to examine third world countries in Africa and Latin America.

***As a final note to this post, let me say that if anything the numbers of black murders Ive posted are UNDERESTIMATED and the numbers of Muslim murders in Germany are OVERESTIMATED (because I falsely equated "foreigner" with Muslim, which I did simply to make a point to Chris371)***

In reality, I would say that there are approximately 1,500-2,000 whites killed by blacks in USA, and about 20 whites killed by Muslims in Germany per year.

For someone to suggest that Muslims are anywhere near as violent to whites as blacks in USA are is fundamentally incorrect and has no statistical basis whatsoever.

 

[davidholly]

What you've done here is just stupid and irrelevant on so many levels.

I gave you NUMBERS of interracial murders in USA (Black on white) and I specifically asked you to tell me the NUMBER of WHITE GERMANS that are murdered by MUSLIMS (I would have even settled for simply NONWHITES), and not only did you fail to directly answer me, but you responded by giving PERCENTAGES about NON INTERRACIAL CRIME.

You chose the wrong criterion and you also strayed completely off topic by including total crime rates as opposed to interracial rates.

At this point, I'm honestly questioning if you are retarded (or maybe you don't understand what I'm saying due to a language barrier?), because you clearly don't have the most basic understanding of statistics and your comparison makes no sense whatsoever and has nothing to do with interracial crime.

As has already been stated Germany doesn't keep crime stats based on race (wonder why). The next best thing is to look at foreign born crime stats. Most foreigners in Germany are non-white Muslims and they're overwhelmingly overrepresented in terms of violent crime, do you think their offspring will suddenly become docile?

It's you who doesn't understand statistics.

Also the proper way to calculate murder rate is Total Crimes/(Population/100000), the outcome of which is 2.35. While significantly higher than black Americans' 17.86, it's still significantly higher than Germany's base rate of 0.84.

 

[BoxingSpecialist2]

The Germans in this thread should be GOD DAMN ASHAMED of themselves for spouting such absolute bullsh1t on race and crime.

As a white Muslim, It is actually disgusting for me to read this thread and see white Germans indirectly apologize for Negroes and ignore and/or belittle the HUGE amount of crime perpetrated by Negroes onto whites in USA.

There is no way to compare 20 or 30 whites being killed in Germany by Muslims to the 1,066+ whites being slaughtered in USA to blacks.

As far as I'm concerned all of you Germans in this thread (Chris 371, Arend) are NEGRO APOLOGISTS and are taking blame off the Negro.

You Germans should all be ashamed for your god damn stupid comments which have no statistical basis. Your hate for Muslims is statistically unfounded. Multiculturalism in Germany is working out FAR BETTER than it is in the USA, murder rates demonstrate that. Germany is certainly a much safer, cohesive place to live for whites.

You literally wouldn't be far off to say that blacks kills whites at a rate that is 100 times higher than Muslims kill whites.

You guys need to seriously stop it with your anti-Muslim rhetoric. Youre a bunch of Negro sympathizers and your comments are devoid of all statistical truth. Youre taking blame off the Negro its that simple.

I would encourage ALL of the Germans in this thread to read up on race and crime in the USA. Its clear NONE OF YOU have an accurate understanding on the subject. And your false views on race and crime actually hinder this cause of white rights.

A good place to start is here: http://www.colorofcrime.com

 

[davidholly]

Just because Muslims aren't as bad as blacks doesn't mean we should open the flood gates for them. By your retard logic USA should be more than happy to let themselves be invaded by Mexicans.

No one in this thread is a black apologist either, you just think that it's better to be punched stabbed than it is to be shot. We prefer neither.

 

[davidholly]

You literally wouldn't be far off to say that blacks kills whites at a rate that is 100 times higher than Muslims kill whites.

Baseless, almost no European countries break down crime stats based on race. Wonder why?

 

[BoxingSpecialist2]

Baseless, almost no European countries break down crime stats based on race. Wonder why?

If you have a look at my statistical analysis, it is entirely appropriate to assume there are about 2,000 whites being killed by blacks in the USA. Certainly, Ive just proven that the number is **atleast 1,066**, probably somewhat larger than that.

Ive also just shown that foreigners account for about 48 murders to whites per year in Germany (using the same 7% rate for both situation in my analysis).

Let me remind you that foreigners makeup 8.8% of the German population, yet Ive read that MIDDLE EASTERNERS only make up 5% of the German population. That leaves a discrepancy of 3%, so Muslims COULDNT POSSIBLY be reponsible for all 48 of those murders.

In reality:

- Blacks kill around 2,000 whites per year in USA
- Muslim probably kill somewhere between 10-30 whites in Germany.

My comment that blacks are 100 times more likely to kill a white than an Arab or Persian is statistically quite accurate.

So I would advise all of you Germans to get a god damn clue before you speak your anti-Muslim rhetoric. Understand that whites are being slaughtered by the thousands in USA, which is 100 times more than the rate of white Germans being killed by Muslims.

There are much more pressing issues for whites, and I am honestly DISGUSTED reading the comments by white Germans in this thread. You are indirectly apologizing for Negro and ignoring Negro crime.

DISGUSTED with all of you Germans. Get a clue, please!

 

[BoxingSpecialist2]

To reiterate my findings based primarily on Chris371's table, as well as FBI's "expanded homicide data":

- 690 total murders occurring in Germany per year, 170 of which are carried out by "foreigners", roughly 48 of which result in a foreigner killing a white German.

- 15,421 total murders occurring in USA per year, 7315 of which are carried out by Negroes, with an absolute minimum of 1,066 resulting in a Negro killing a white American.

In my own suggestion, I would say the number of whites killed by foreigners in Germany is somewhat OVERSTATED and the number of whites killed by Negroes in USA is somewhat UNDERSTATED.

Not to mention it is impossible that Muslims account for all 48 of those murders, I just pointed out there is a discrepancy between the % of foreigners in Germany and the % of Middle Easterners in terms of total population. (Foreigners makeup 8.8% of Germany, Middle Easterners only makeup 5%, that means atleast 3.8% of foreigners are either white, black, Asian, and presumably nonMuslim).

I would also suggest that the number of whites killed by blacks is underreported in USA. I would suggest the frequency of "unkown" race cases is exponentially increased when the perp is Black and the victim is white.

I would be interested in taking this research further and I probably will!

As a total conclusion from my analysis I would say that Negroes are infinitely more violent to whites than Muslims could ever be, so conservative German anti-Muslim rhetoric is largely misplaced. At face value, Negroes in USA absolutely are 100 times more likely to kill a white person than a Middle Eastern Muslim in Germany, and these statistics support that.

Yes, there is a relative population difference, but realize that we are comparing roughly 1,066-2,000 murders per year by blacks to about 20 or so in Germany. The difference is approximately 100 times.

Thus, i would say the comments of Germans in this thread are vastly misguided.