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I dont share alot of his political views, but Rush made some great comments the other day regarding the NFL. (He might be "lurking" on this web site)

"Let me tell you, the Chargers would not have lost that game were it not for a bunch of -- I gotta be very careful here. It's not just irresponsible, but there is a cultural problem in the NFL that has resulted in a total lack of class on the part of professional players."

"There was a play where Brady was third and long, he was sacked, fumbled the ball, the Patriots recovered it, it will be fourth and long, forcing an interesting decision late in the game by the Patriots. After the play is over, a Chargers player gets in the face of a Patriots player, head butts him and starts jawing. This is the reason these guys are getting shot in bars, folks, late at night. Fifteen-yard penalty, automatic first down. So for the Chargers to complain about the lack of class by the Patriots, I found laughable. I think something ought to be done about it, because I love the game of football, and I don't like the kind of culture that's taking over, that "you can't diss me, you can't disrespect me." After every sack, players are acting like they've won the Super Bowl, and they're prancing around with these idiotic dances. The latest thing is to act like they're making a jump shot in basketball. It's all done to taunt; it's all done to taunt the other team's fans."

"I don't want boring football. I don't want the no-fun league, but you can certainly have great football games without a lack of class. I don't know how it's been allowed to happen this way. I guess the coaches don't feel confident to continue -- this was very rare for the Patriots to act the way they did, and who knows what led to it. I don't think of Belichick as that kind of coach, but Tomlinson's words reverberated around the league. A lot of people said, "I'm glad he said something, because Belichick is getting away here with an image that he doesn't deserve." I've played golf with Belichick; he's a mild-mannered, soft-spoken man. I even saw him at a cocktail party here in Palm Beach before dinner one night. That whole organization to me exudes class, as does Tom Brady, and you don't see them doing this kind of stuff."

"One of the reasons the Pittsburgh Steelers had trouble this year was a total lack of discipline, in addition to all their turnovers, total lack of discipline, 15-yard penalties, unnecessary roughness, taunting after plays are over, after successful defensive stands, they blow it. There's something culturally wrong here that is leading to all this. It's gotta be dealt with at the top, because it simply is classless. I can I understand LaDainian Tomlinson being upset because he doesn't do this stuff. But in the current NFL climate the best way for the Chargers to prevent that from happening is win the game and keep this insidious, ridiculous, boorish, classless behavior to a minimum so that you don't lose it on account of that. It's just disappointing, and it's a mystery to me why it's being allowed to continue. Well, actually, I understand partially why it continues, and that's because of ESPN"

"ESPN lives off this. ESPN created Terrell Owens. Terrell Owens is who he is, but if Terrell Owens weren't constantly on television with his antics after touchdowns -- I remember, I called this. You remember the Monday night game on ABC and Seattle when after scoring a touchdown, T.O. playing for the Fort'iners, pulls a Sharpie out of his sock, autographs the ball and gives it to somebody. I said, "Folks, this is going to lead to nothing but trouble." Everybody said, "Come on, Rush, lighten up, that was funny." It was classless. Go back and look at the greats who played this game. They would not do anything of the sort, maybe hand the ball off, but not pull a Sharpie out. Everybody started to talk about how much fun that was, ooh, how cool, how creative. Then we get Joe Horn of the United States Saints after he scored a touchdown pulling a cell phone out of his socks and faked making a phone call. Well, guess what shows up on ESPN? So these guys get validated, everybody wants to stand out, they want to get endorsement deals and so forth. So television, making stars out of people who engage in classless behavior helps lead to it and contribute to it. No question in my mind about it. I'll bet the guy that called from El Paso did not expect this as an answer."

"Look it, let me put it to you this way. The NFL all too often looks like a game between the Bloods and the Crips without any weapons. There, I said it."

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_011907/content/e ib_nfl_update.guest.html

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Wow!

Gotta hand it to him, he is pushing the boundaries. He will be lambasted of course, but the people who will hate him for saying this hate him already; and his fans will appreciate him even more.

He had a lot of derogatory things to say about Bush and the Republican party after the last election as well. He said he wasn't going to be their 'water boy' anymore.
 
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I wonder how long Limbaugh will have his job. I remember what happened when he critizied a certain black QB. Expect the caste system to come down hard on him.
 

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screamingeagle said:
I wonder how long Limbaugh will have his job. I remember what happened when he critizied a certain black QB. Expect the caste system to come down hard on him.

Limbaugh is rich and powerful enough now to be able to say more of what he wants. The only thing he really has to watch out for is loss of sponsors and FCC censorship. But the guy has legions of followers, and so far has had no problem picking up advertisers.
 
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Don't forget he has that drug problem hanging over him. While they never pursued it, they also never dropped the charges.
 

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I heard Rush talking about some related issues the other day, when I tuned in for a rare moment. Rush is like a lot of white men his age. They can't stand the black crap that is the modern day NFL, but they feel they can do little about it. Its good to hear Rush talking about it more directly now though. I don't think he would be talking about any of this if he hadn't gone through what he did with ESPN and McDrabb. I used to listen to Rush all the time when I was younger, but haven't much for several reasons over the last 5 years, but it is good to hear him speaking out about this issue now.
 

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I certainly can't stand some of Rush's views or his political mud slinging, but when it comes down to sports, we're all in the same boat about what we see going on in the NFL in particular. This is definitely an issue with the white male fan base and it has been completely not talked about on any of the sports networks. The chargers lost that game because they're stupid team with a stupid coach and I'm surprised the Patriots, a smart team with a smart coach, didn't blow them out. You never ever see a white player making stupid penalties, and classlessly dancing after everything they do.


I've heard caste whore Jim Rome talk about what fun he thinks it is when Chad Johnson does one of his stupid routines after a touchdown. Me personally, I really don't see what is so funny about a grown man performing CPR on a football. But what else is new, a Jew endorsing idiotic behavior of black men.
 

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"Look it, let me put it to you this way. The NFL all too often looks like a game between the Bloods and the Crips without any weapons. There, I said it."


Quote of the year so far. The reason it goes on is because the white coaches are physically afraid of the black players they've recruited/ drafted. They are afraid to discipline them in any way. They are araid they will be attacked. Usually some poor ref ends up feeling the wrath of the coach over his black team member's idiotic unsportsmanlike penalty. Much easier to yell at a little white referee than a 300lb rampaging black lineman. Coaches are cowards.
 

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WOW! Nice article. I wish that would get picked up by the national media.
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Great find, earthman. It's a good thing the author is black; a white journalist would never be able to get away with writing that piece.

From the article:
How many white football players keep a Sharpie in their sock, so when he scores a touchdown, can pull it out, autograph the ball and hand it to a fan? How many white football players hide cellphones in the upright padding so upon scoring a touchdown, he can call somebody? How many white football players kick others down on the ground in the head? How many white football players are shot to death in gang-style, drive-by shootings after leaving a club? How many white football players slit their wife's throat?

Don't get me wrong; few white ballplayers are without sin.

Some have spit in the umpire's face. Some slap their wives around on public streets. Some ride motorcycles without helmets. Some throw cameramen to the deck.

When I read this the first time, I read it with amusement thinking the author was making a satirical comparison between the seriousness of the 'sins' of black ball players versus those of whites.

But reading through the article a second time.. I got the impression that the author is actually comparing slitting someone's throat to riding a motorcycle without a helmet.

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What's your take? Edited by: White Shogun
 

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Personally, I think he's being sarcastic.
 
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Its sarcasm. I think not wearing a helmet compares real well with slitting someone's throat.
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Matt_Bowen_Fan said:
Its sarcasm. I think not wearing a helmet compares real well with slitting someone's throat.
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Hey, I agree with you, but who knows what's going through the mind of these journalists when they write things like this. Just like the white player who was included in a long list of black athlete misdeeds for 'boating while intoxicated.' Other guys on the list were convicted of drug possession, drug trafficking, domestic violence, shootings, etc. And they put 'boating while intoxicated' in that list, so.. is it that much of a stretch for someone to add 'riding without a helmet' as an example of egregious behavior by an athlete?

That's how bad it is, one can't read a story with obviously ridiculous comments and know whether they're serious or sarcastic. Look at the Vapid-Breathless and Kyle Brownose spoofs. Some of those are written with comments from REAL articles written by REAL journalists, and you'd never know the difference!
 

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I dont know the context of this statement, but I read it on Rush's website.


"before we go to the break here, folks, I gotta get something off my chest. You know, the game was the game, and the game was what it was, but I can't handle any more press criticism of Rex Grossman. They're writing his name "W-r-e-c-k-s," saying he was the worst quarterback ever to play in the Super Bowl, and it's been like this since the Green Bay game -- actually, since the Arizona game. There was a little crescendo of it in the Green Bay game, the last game of the season for the Bears, and it's just unrelenting. They're focusing on this guy like they don't focus on anybody -- and I'll tell you, I know what it is. The media, the sports media, has got social concerns that they are first and foremost interested in, and they're dumping on this guy, Rex Grossman, for one reason, folks, and that's because he is a white quarterback."

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_020507/content/0 205078.guest.htmlEdited by: KJV1
 

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Rush IS right! (this time)
 

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Good for Rush, again!
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I'm really starting to think that he is viewing this site.
 

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I'm sick of it, too. There were only two stories on the airwaves today: one, how great Peyton Manning is, and two: how crappy Rex Grossman is. And it certainly seemed to me that the criticism of Grossman got more air time than Peyton.

It seemed to drone on and on. And of course all the parrots where I work stood around squawking, repeating what they heard on the radio.

As for Rush, I don't know if that is his real opinion, or if he sees some potential publicity for himself in making such a statement. Nevertheless, you don't get to be where Rush is without some business savvy, and I think he sees the unrest in white America right now. I think it is a calculated business decision on his part to begin making these remarks publicly. He'll be on the 'cutting edge,' as he likes to say, of the new trend that is sweeping America: white disenfranchisement.
 

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Grossmanwas just in his first year as a startingquarterback. He was injured his first two seasons so 2006 was essentially his rookie year, yet he still gets mercilessly carved up like this. As we know, highly drafted black quarterbacks get many years to develop while highly drafted white quarterbacks are often pronounced "busts" almost before their careers begin.


Limbaugh is very knowledgeable about football; I'm surprised he's "gone this far" on the issue that got him fired from ESPN. I hope feelings of disenfranchisementare sweeping WhiteAmerica, because it's been way, way overdue.


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I don't have any special affection for Rex Grossman, but he certainly doesn't deserve the lambasting he's been receiving in the media. The worst QB performance in Super Bowl history? He was 20-28 passing! We all know if this was a black QB, he would be praised for his "poise," "leadership," and the fact he'd "led" his team to the Super Bowl in his first full season as a starter. However, imho he's finished in Chicago. No way can he overcome the fan hostility there; look at how they treated Cade McNown's every incompletion. Next season, if Grossman starts (which is no sure thing), he will be booed incessantly after every bad pass he throws. The only way this guy could win back those white yee-haw fans is to play perfectly at his position, which no one has ever done and no one will ever do.
 

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Grossman was 20/28 for 165 yards, 1 TD 2 INT. He fumbled twice but lost only one, although the second fumble obviously cost them a down. The radio talking heads have pointed out that the majority of his passes were completed against the Colts prevent D in garbage time.

Jones rushed 15 times for 112 yards, but of course 52 of those yards came on one play. If you break down his play the same way you do Grossman's, he was 14 for 60, or roughly 4.8 yards per carry. Not bad at all.

The problem is the Bears only ran about 40 offensive plays altogether, not counting punts. By comparison, the Colts had 40 RUSHING plays alone. Grossman didn't help his team win the game, but he certainly isn't solely to blame for their loss, either.

Rex is being vilified in the media because no one wants to blame Lovie Smith. For anything.

I checked out a couple of other Super Bowl stats just to see how Rex compared to other quarterbacks in the big game. Here are a few for you to peruse:

Super Bowl 24: The great John Elway was 10 of 26 for 108 yards, 0 TDs and 2 INTs. Worse than Grossman, and look at Elway now.

Super Bowl 27: The Bills duo of Reich and Kelly were 22 of 38 for 276 yards, 1 TD, 4 INT.

Super Bowl 34: McNair threw for just over 200 yards, but had no TDs and no INTs.

Super Bowl 35: Kerry Collins went 15 of 39 for 112 yards, 0 TDs, and 4 INT. Definitely worse than Rex Grossman.

Super Bowl 39: McNabb threw for almost 400 yards and 3 TD, but he also threw 3 INT.

I could go on, but you get the picture. Rex Grossman is certainly not the worst quarterback to ever play the game, and he had less of an impact on his team's loss than some of the other quarterbacks who played in the Big Game.
 

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An even better comparison would be to compare the stats of the 4 QB's who faced the Indy D in the playoffs this year. Here we go:

Trent Green -- 14-24 107yds 1TD 1INT 2 fumbles 1 lost

Steve NcNair -- 18-29 173yds 0TD 2INT 1 fumble 1 lost

Tom Brady-- 21-34 232yds 1TD 1INT 1 fumble 0 lost

R. Grossman -- 20-28 165yds 1TD 2INT 2 fumbles 1 lost

The #1 difference between the 4 QB's, Grossman has 26 starts at QB. The other 3 are veterans and All-Pro QB's with tons of playoff experience.

The #2 difference between the QB's, Grossman played his game in a downpour.

The #3 difference between the QB's, the Colts had 2 weeks to prepare for Grossman and the Bears offense.

The media is like a bunch of sharks at feeding time. They can't just eat their meal, they have to go into a frenzy. Rex is the meal this week and hopefully he can survive it because I really do beleive he will be the Bears QB next year. He will improve if given a chance.
 

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Great comparison, GW! I wish I had thought of it.
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I didn't see anybody criticizing Steve McNair the way they have been Rex Grossman, and Rex even threw a TD. McNair did not.

It seems to me McNair actually had the poorest performance of the four quarterbacks who played the Colts in this years playoff games.
 
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GWTJ said:
An even better comparison would be to compare the stats of the 4 QB's who faced the Indy D in the playoffs this year. Here we go:

Trent Green -- 14-24 107yds 1TD 1INT 2 fumbles 1 lost

Steve NcNair -- 18-29 173yds 0TD 2INT 1 fumble 1 lost

Tom Brady-- 21-34 232yds 1TD 1INT 1 fumble 0 lost

R. Grossman -- 20-28 165yds 1TD 2INT 2 fumbles 1 lost

The #1 difference between the 4 QB's, Grossman has 26 starts at QB. The other 3 are veterans and All-Pro QB's with tons of playoff experience.

The #2 difference between the QB's, Grossman played his game in a downpour.

The #3 difference between the QB's, the Colts had 2 weeks to prepare for Grossman and the Bears offense.

The media is like a bunch of sharks at feeding time. They can't just eat their meal, they have to go into a frenzy. Rex is the meal this week and hopefully he can survive it because I really do beleive he will be the Bears QB next year. He will improve if given a chance.

Great comparison, really puts Grossman's performance into perspective.
 

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Rush is a man among boys. I freakin' love that guy. He was the first to make a statement about illegal immigration and its effect on our culture, this was while the Repubs and Bush were running the show, while Bush was popular.

I will also never forget what Rush said after Sept 11th. He was very explicit in NOT blaming people just because they happened to be Muslim. He said something about not taking out frustrations on some Palestinians who happend to be in America trying to live a better life.

I will always respect him for that, having the guts to defend those who didn't have many defenders. Similar to white quarterbacks today. Rush is great man who has done more for this country than any of those f'ing politicians combined.

I still believe Rush to be a closet supporter of drug legalization. The way he talks about tobacco prohibition is the exact arguments against drug prohibition. And I respect anyone who's got the guts to say the "war" on drugs is an absolute joke.
 
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