Ricky Hatton

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As you guys know,Ricky Hatton has a belt after beating
Kostya.He is undefeated and ready to defend it.Should
they go for a Mayweather fight or wait a little.I say go
for it right now.Mayweather is very talented but poised
to be upset.He is just too *******y.I think he would take
Hatton lightly and get knocked out.Hatton would keep the
pressure on him like he has never seen.This would be a
great fight for the public.It will happen but it might
not be for a while.
 
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white lightning said:
As you guys know,Ricky Hatton has a belt after beating
Kostya.He is undefeated and ready to defend it.Should
they go for a Mayweather fight or wait a little.I say go
for it right now.Mayweather is very talented but poised
to be upset.He is just too *******y.I think he would take
Hatton lightly and get knocked out.Hatton would keep the
pressure on him like he has never seen.This would be a
great fight for the public.It will happen but it might
not be for a while.
When has Mayweatherever taken an opponent lightly in the ring ?. Mayweather being *******y outside the ring does'nt mean he gets dumb in the ring .


When has Mayweather gotten close to getting knocked out ?


A black guy is confident in his abilities he is *******y a white guy is just being confident.
 

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faux-fighter.

You must understand, it's all in the phraseology and delivery. Ex. phrases like "I'll win this fight." "I predict a knockout" vrs. something like "I IS THE GREATEST %^#$^% FIGHTER!!!" and "I'LL KNOCK THAT MOFO THE %#@& OUT!!!!!!". White people find the latter annoying for some reason, especially when voiced at a volume more suitable for shouting at someone 300 yards away than for an indoor conversation. Just one of those little cultural differences you have to be aware of.
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faux-fighter.

You must understand, it's all in the phraseology and delivery. Ex. phrases like "I'll win this fight." "I predict a knockout" vrs. something like "I IS THE GREATEST %^#$^% FIGHTER!!!" and "I'LL KNOCK THAT MOFO THE %#@& OUT!!!!!!". White people find the latter annoying for some reason, especially when voiced at a volume more suitable for shouting at someone 300 yards away than for an indoor conversation. Just one of those little cultural differences you have to be aware of.
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Pleazze you can find fighters of both colors being either brash and loud or subdued.


The brash and loud school really started with Ali its a hell of a selling gimmick a fighter with skills and a brash and loud personality is money in the bank for the promoter and the fighter. Some will buy ickets because their drawn to the loud *******y personality some will buy tickets because they want to see that fighter get KO'd.


I am betting that at least 50 % of the people buying the Mayweather fight did so hoping to see Maywether KO'd. The ''good'' guy ''bad'' guy gimmick worked and paid off.
 

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Fistfighter wrote: "Pleazze you can find fighters of both colors being either brash and loud or subdued. The brash and loud school really started with Ali its a hell of a selling gimmick a fighter with skills and a brash and loud personality is money in the bank for the promoter and the fighter."


Who are some of the white fighters who fit this Ali school and became "money in the bank for the promoter and the fighter"?
 

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Yeah,who are they.I see most of the black fighters acting
like a ass and the white fighters acting with class.I
don't need to see any Ali want to be's.By the way,Ali
was overated in my book.He is in the top 5 but that is
all I will give him.Larry Holmes beat him to a pulp and
would have in Ali's prime too.Klitschko would knock him
out and so would Marciano.I hope I didn't hurt your
feelings fist fighter.I know there is not one white
fighter that you root for!
 
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white lightning said:
Yeah,who are they.I see most of the black fighters acting
like a ass and the white fighters acting with class.I
don't need to see any Ali want to be's.By the way,Ali
was overated in my book.He is in the top 5 but that is
all I will give him.Larry Holmes beat him to a pulp and
would have in Ali's prime too.Klitschko would knock him
out and so would Marciano.I hope I didn't hurt your
feelings fist fighter.I know there is not one white
fighter that you root for!
Tell us again how Hatton would KO Floyd since Floyd has never been KO'd in his life . Or how Floyd is to *******y since Floyd NEVER takes anyone for granted in the ring . Face it you dont have any real reasons why you think Floyd will get Ko'd just faint hope like you had when Gatti fought Floyd.
 

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Fits, I see you are still stinging from Tyson vs McBride. I think most on this board felt that Gatti was the underdog in the Mayweather. This is how Hatton would beat Floyd ------ by punching him in the damn chin repeatedly. You are ducking Don's question like black fighters duck the KlitchsKOs.
 
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Fits, I see you are still stinging from Tyson vs McBride. I think most on this board felt that Gatti was the underdog in the Mayweather. This is how Hatton would beat Floyd ------ by punching him in the damn chin repeatedly. You are ducking Don's question like black fighters duck the KlitchsKOs.
Joe Calgazhe for one has a pretty big mouth though he wasted his talent. And how would Hatton beat Floyd ? pressure is'nt gonna work . Hatton has'nt got near the boxing skills to compete with Floyd. The only guy at 140 and 147 who is a threat to Floyd is Judah.
 

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White fighters don't run there mouth, there not that insecure. Russian fighters don't talk trash for many reasons one is they don't know English well enough and there culture is not gutter like American inner cities.
 

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Tell us again howFloyd would KO Hatton sinceHatton has never been KO'd in his life . Hatton just beat the best boxer in the world. And how would Floyd beat Hatton? Running away isn't going to work. Face it you dont have any real reasons why you think Hatton will get Ko'd just faint hope like you had when Tyson fought Mcbride.
 

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Good one Kaptain Poop.lol.Hatton will beat him with
pressure.Did you ever see the way Louis fought Ali.Two
of the 3 fights,he should have won in my opinion.Louis
could never win the popularity contest though.Hatton has
a iron chin,good speed,and good power.His endurance will
match Mayweather and he will frustrate him.Mayweather will
feel like he is being pursued by a freight train.He will
then start to fight him toe to toe like Sug.Ray Leonard
tried to fight R.Duran.This will lead to the knockout.His
only chance is to try to wear down Hatton with his speed.
Hatton always is in great shape so I don't see this playing
out.Hatton by knockout in the 9th round.You heard it here
first.When Hatton does win,you better root for him
fistfighter.If not,then you are a even bigger loser than
I thought.
 
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white lightning said:
Good one Kaptain Poop.lol.Hatton will beat him with
pressure.Did you ever see the way Louis fought Ali.Two
of the 3 fights,he should have won in my opinion.Louis
could never win the popularity contest though.Hatton has
a iron chin,good speed,and good power.His endurance will
match Mayweather and he will frustrate him.Mayweather will
feel like he is being pursued by a freight train.He will
then start to fight him toe to toe like Sug.Ray Leonard
tried to fight R.Duran.This will lead to the knockout.His
only chance is to try to wear down Hatton with his speed.
Hatton always is in great shape so I don't see this playing
out.Hatton by knockout in the 9th round.You heard it here
first.When Hatton does win,you better root for him
fistfighter.If not,then you are a even bigger loser than
I thought.
Louis fought Alui you mean frazier right. And Hatton is not even one tenth the fighter Duran is Duran unlike hatton had pretty impressive defensive skills up close . Dont ever compare Leonard vs Duran 1 to Floyd and Hatton





When has Floyd ever come close to being KO'd . Wide UD for Floyd
 
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Tell us again howFloyd would KO Hatton sinceHatton has never been KO'd in his life . Hatton just beat the best boxer in the world. And how would Floyd beat Hatton? Running away isn't going to work. Face it you dont have any real reasons why you think Hatton will get Ko'd just faint hope like you had when Tyson fought Mcbride.
Floyd wins Because of


1 Superior boxing skills


2 when Floyd goes to the ropes his in the pocket defensive skills make it very difficult to land cleanly on him.


3 Floyd has a good chin he has yet to come close to being stopped


4 Floyd has beaten better fighters then Hatton has on a constant basis


5 Floyd and Roger Mayweather come up with the right plan for the right opponent


6 Floyd is always in great shape does'nt panic and can adjust in mid fight if he has too


7 Hatton is Not Duran to Floyds Leonard . Duran is about a 100 times the fighter Hatton ever was.


All Hatton can claim is that Hatton might beat Floyd by pressure others have tried did'nt work


Thats why Floyd beats Hatton


When you give me something else then ''Hatton will KO him with pressure " then we will talk. After Floyd beats hatton i expect you to claim that Kosta could beat Floyd.Edited by: fistfighter
 

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That Mayweather is one tough guy, at least when it comes to the ladies!
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Jury in Vegas acquits Mayweather of domestic violence charge
LAS VEGAS (AP) â€â€￾ World champion boxer Floyd Mayweather Jr. was acquitted Friday of hitting and kicking his former girlfriend during a 2003 argument outside a Las Vegas nightclub.
Mayweather showed no reaction as the verdict was read in Clark County District Court.

"I was nervous, extremely nervous, because my life was on the line," Mayweather told reporters outside the courthouse. "If I was a regular guy, the case would have been tossed out."

Mayweather, who holds the WBC 140-pound title, was charged with one count of battery constituting domestic violence and would have faced a minimum of one year in prison if convicted.

The case stemmed from an altercation between Mayweather and Josie Harris, the mother of three of his children. The two were sitting in Mayweather's black Bentley outside the SRO Club when Harris said in a police report the boxer kicked her, punched her and pulled her hair.

Harris, 25, testified Thursday that she lied to police because she was angry Mayweather, 28, had left her for another woman. She described him as a "teddy bear inside" and said she knew "that no matter what I did, he would never put his hands on me."

During the trial, Mayweather's lawyer, Richard Wright, acknowledged the fighter pulled Harris from the car after she kicked in the front windshield. But Mayweather never hit Harris, Wright said.

Deputy District Attorney Alexandra Chrysanthis had urged jurors to rely on what Harris said the night of the altercation "before anyone ... had a chance to change their mind."

The battery case was not the first for Mayweather.

In February, he was fined and ordered to perform community service after pleading no contest in Grand Rapids, Mich., to a charge of misdemeanor assault and battery for a bar fight.

Mayweather, who grew up in Grand Rapids, lives and trains in Las Vegas.

Last year, he was convicted of misdemeanor battery stemming from a fight with two women at a Las Vegas nightclub. He received a suspended one-year jail sentence and was ordered to undergo "impulse-control" counseling.

"I'm disappointed," Chrysanthis said. "But I know a lot more about his criminal history than the jury did."

Jurors deliberated less than 90 minutes before reaching their verdict. Foreman Gregory Aguirre, a 20-year-old college student from Las Vegas, said each juror had an opinion on Harris' testimony, but were united regarding the state's burden of proof.

"There was a lot of reasonable doubt, and you can't convict someone when there's a lot of reasonable doubt," Aguirre said.

Jurors were not swayed by Mayweather's celebrity status, Aguirre said, adding he didn't know who Mayweather was when the case began.

"I had never heard of him. I'm not a boxing fan," Aguirre said. "To me, he's just an average citizen, just like me."

As for Mayweather, he said the trial was not a distraction from boxing and he's looking forward to fighting Winky Wright on Nov. 12 in Las Vegas. Plans for the bout haven't been finalized.
 

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Fits, You can talk all you want about Mayweather's supposed superior boxing skills. The fact is that Ricky Hatton has been the better fighter and is also undefeated. Thus, Hatton has Proven his superior skills as a boxer by beating the best boxer out there. Until Floyd beats Kosta or Hatton himself all your talk is just pure guessing, hoping, and routing.


My personal opinion is that alot will depend on how the fight is refeered. Will the fighters be constantly separated the second the fight goes inside and Mayweather holds on? (a boring chicken s*** fighting style popularized by Ali). Or will they be forced to punch out and stop holding? If they are force to fight, Hatton will knock him out, otherwise Mayweather will probably win a boring decision.


Fits - is Floyd on the same level as Duran and Leonard and Hatton not??? You wouldn't be biased in your opinion would you?


If you look at the two Duran-Leonard fights, they were refereed completely the opposite with opposite outcomes. In the first fight, the ref didn't allow Leonard to grab and hold - often slappin his gloves of of Duran's body. The second fight had much less action as the fighters were constantly separated. Duran got frustrated and quit. Of course there were other factors to that fight, but the two fights are fair comparisons to the boxing styles of Hatton and Mayweather.


Last thought - as I watch Ali's old fights I have to wonder how in the hell did he get away with all of the blatant holding and grabbing??? He best move was to pull a guys head down to his waist and then complain of a low blow - WTF. He did this move about 10 times EVERY round!!!
 
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Kaptain Poop said:
Fits, You can talk all you want about Mayweather's supposed superior boxing skills. The fact is that Ricky Hatton has been the better fighter and is also undefeated. Thus, Hatton has Proven his superior skills as a boxer by beating the best boxer out there. Until Floyd beats Kosta or Hatton himself all your talk is just pure guessing, hoping, and routing.


My personal opinion is that alot will depend on how the fight is refeered. Will the fighters be constantly separated the second the fight goes inside and Mayweather holds on? (a boring chicken s*** fighting style popularized by Ali). Or will they be forced to punch out and stop holding? If they are force to fight, Hatton will knock him out, otherwise Mayweather will probably win a boring decision.


Fits - is Floyd on the same level as Duran and Leonard and Hatton not??? You wouldn't be biased in your opinion would you?


If you look at the two Duran-Leonard fights, they were refereed completely the opposite with opposite outcomes. In the first fight, the ref didn't allow Leonard to grab and hold - often slappin his gloves of of Duran's body. The second fight had much less action as the fighters were constantly separated. Duran got frustrated and quit. Of course there were other factors to that fight, but the two fights are fair comparisons to the boxing styles of Hatton and Mayweather.


Last thought - as I watch Ali's old fights I have to wonder how in the hell did he get away with all of the blatant holding and grabbing??? He best move was to pull a guys head down to his waist and then complain of a low blow - WTF. He did this move about 10 times EVERY round!!!
Kosta was NOT even close to being the best fighter in world EVER in his carreer at best he was a top 5 P4P guy. Mayweather has beaten better guys then Hatton has on a constant basis .


And another thing comparing Mayweather to Ali is a pretty dumb thing to do since they have completly different styles.


Mayweather does'nt hold inside and is difficult to hit up close due to his reflexes and in the pocket defense. Mayweather could easiliy evade and block Hattons punches and counter him.Maywether vs Hatton up close would look worse then Jirov vs Toney up close . Remember that one ? Jirov wasting his punches and being countered and staggered by Toney. Mayweather is as good or better as Toney up close and a lot more active. So ''pressure'' is not gonna work.


Mayweather has done way more in his carreer to be called an all time great . Beating Corrales and Castillo trump Hatton beating an OLD Kosta you can throw in Manfredy back when he was still P4P and Jesus Chavez too.


Old Kosta was the first top fighter Hatton EVER fought. Dont compare Hatton to Duran Hatton is'nt even as good as past his prime Duran was.


If Mayweather stays on the outside there is nothing Hatton can do about it.


Mayweather wide UD.





You can hide for two three days again thinking up a rebuttal.


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How can I rebutt something that is simple incredibly biased opinion? A few months ago when you called yourself Godking YOU SAID Kosta was the best pound for pound fighter right now. All of sudden Kosta sucks? HuH???


Why do you try to bring-up every fight a white fighter lost to a black??? What kind of child are you? Now should I rebutt by listing all of the recent white victories like McBride over Tyson? The fact is that you have no real idea how good Mayweather is because he hasn't fought ANYBODY as good as Kosta.
 
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How can I rebutt something that is simple incredibly biased opinion? A few months ago when you called yourself Godking YOU SAID Kosta was the best pound for pound fighter right now. All of sudden Kosta sucks? HuH???


Why do you try to bring-up every fight a white fighter lost to a black??? What kind of child are you? Now should I rebutt by listing all of the recent white victories like McBride over Tyson? The fact is that you have no real idea how good Mayweather is because he hasn't fought ANYBODY as good as Kosta.
Prove that i have EVER claimed that Kosta was the best P4P fighter in the world idiot. At best Kosta was top 5 P4P he was NEVER the best in the world.


Hatton fought an OLD past his prime Kosta who only fought n3 rounds in 2 years. Thats Hattons legacy beating an OLD Kosta in a fight that was close until Kosta decided to QUIT on his chair.


Mayweathers Legacy is beating guys Corrales Castillo Chavez and dominating multiple divisions.


Has Hatton ever fought a top opponent in his Prime ?


Its pretty clear who has done more at this point of their carreers.
 

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facts-fighter, Most boxing experts had Kosta as the best P4P fighter in the world before the Hatton fight. You are no boxing expert. You are a die-hard black boxing fan. That is exactly what you are doing now - dying hard as you watch the Russians and other white races take back boxing. Your "past their prime" arguement is getting so incredibly old. Do you use it on EVERY boxing thread. Just last November Kostya knockout Shambra Mitchell the number one contender in just three rounds. Come up with some new material and try to think of something intelligent to say. Have a white friend type for you and give you some ideas.


Did Corrales, Castillo, and Chavez ever beat Kosta? Of course not. Beating guys a level below the best as Mayweather has does not mean that you can beat the best. Hatton has proven he can beat the best and Mayweather has proven he can beat very good boxers. Those are the facts. Anything else is just wishful thinking and guesswork.


BTW - enough with Hatton hasn't fought anybody. The only person to beat Kostya in his professional career wasVince Phillips. Hatton destroyed Phillips winning EVERY round on the judges scorecards. Edited by: Kaptain Poop
 
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facts-fighter, Most boxing experts had Kosta as the best P4P fighter in the world before the Hatton fight. You are no boxing expert. You are a die-hard black boxing fan. That is exactly what you are doing now - dying hard as you watch the Russians and other white races take back boxing. Your "past their prime" arguement is getting so incredibly old. Do you use it on EVERY boxing thread. Just last November Kostya knockout Shambra Mitchell the number one contender in just three rounds. Come up with some new material and try to think of something intelligent to say. Have a white friend type for you and give you some ideas.


Did Corrales, Castillo, and Chavez ever beat Kosta? Of course not. Beating guys a level below the best as Mayweather has does not mean that you can beat the best. Hatton has proven he can beat the best and Mayweather has proven he can beat very good boxers. Those are the facts. Anything else is just wishful thinking and guesswork.


BTW - enough with Hatton hasn't fought anybody. The only person to beat Kostya in his professional career wasVince Phillips. Hatton destroyed Phillips winning EVERY round on the judges scorecards.
You are a liar NO boxing expert had Kosta as P4P the best fighter in the world hehasNEVER been regarded as such. p4p top 5 yes.


And yes Kosta was past it the he only fought 3 rounds in 2 years the beating a guy he had already stopped before.


And dont bring up Vince Philips he was way way past his best when he fought Hatton.


Hatton has made a carreer out of fighting past their prime figjhters in his own backyard.


Has Hatton ever fought a top opponent in his prime ?
 

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yes indeed, the white fighters from the former communist countries have established themselves in many divisons of boxing, and will rule shortly the heavyweight and light heaveyweight divisions for years to come, thank goodness
 

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Has anyone heard who Hatton will fight next?I'm anxious to see him take on another guy with a belt.This kid is undefeated but like so many other white fighters,doesn't get the respect he deserves?That's ok because he will earn it like always in the ring and shut up his critics.
Go Hatton!
 

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Saturday, Nov. 26 - at Sheffield, England
Ricky Hatton vs. Carlos Maussa.
 

white lightning

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Thanks White Shogun.I was looking at the current Ring Magazine and they have Hatton ranked as the 8th best fighter pound for pound in the world.He's moving up quickly and getting some respect after the Kostya fight.
I want to see him dominate for a long time.
 
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