Recent BUSTS

[Don Wassall]

Another first round bust, still kicking around the league:

Jaguars signed S Terrell Edmunds, formerly of the Titans.
Edmunds was traded from the Eagles to the Titans last season and totaled 48 tackles, 2.5 sacks, and one interception while splitting time with the two teams. The former first-round pick was let go by the Steelers after his rookie contract expired at the end of the 2022 season and is now set to play for his third team in two years. He’ll have a chance to provide added depth to the Jaguars’ secondary but is unlikely to be viewed as a starter at this point. In addition to Edmunds, they also signed cornerback Tre Flowers and linebacker Ty Summers.

 

[Don Wassall]

There's no better example of how meaningless being able to run fast for 40 yards in a straight line in shorts is than John Ross. 957 yards for his career since being drafted in the first round in 2017.

This year's equivalent is Xavier Worthy, drafted in the first round by the Chiefs. He weighs 172 pounds. What will they say when he flops even with Patrick Mahomes throwing the ball to him? Doesn't matter because by then there will be new "John Ross types" for the draft "gurus" and DWFs to be drooling over.

Eagles signed WR John Ross.
Ross announced his retirement last July while with the Chiefs but is now back for a second go at things with the Eagles. The former No. 9 overall pick of the 2017 NFL Draft hasn’t played a regular-season snap since 2021 and has dealt with a myriad of injuries dating back to his days in college at Washington. Ross has a career receiving line of 62-957-11 but has totaled just 13 receptions for 241 yards and one touchdown over his last two seasons. He’ll have a chance to make the Eagles as added depth on a roster that’s short on receiver talent behind A.J. Brown and Devonta Smith, but is well off the fantasy radar even if he makes the roster.

 

[Gator Dad]

Two second-round picks from the 2021 draft:

Carlos "Boogie" Basham. Linebacker drafted by the Bills #61 overall. Lasted only two seasons in Buffalo before being traded to the Giants for a 2025 6th round pick (Buffalo also had to give up a 2025 7th round pick in the deal). In 3 NFL seasons put up a grand total of 48 tackles, 4 sacks, and 1 interception. BUST!

D'Wayne "Dee" Eskridge. Wide receiver drafted by the Seahawks #56 overall. Total stats over 3 NFL seasons: 17 receptions on 34 targets, 122 receiving yards, 1 TD. Appeared in 10 games in each of the 2021 and 2022 seasons. Appeared in only 4 games in 2023, with 1 target and 0 receptions. Was suspended the first 6 games of the 2023 season because he was arrested for a "confrontation" with his "baby mama." BUST!

 

[Gator Dad]

Another thing we should do is when mentioning busts here, also bring up what was written about them in scouting reports so everyone can see just what geniuses draft "experts" are - or perhaps find some red flags that were brought up by scouts but ignored by GMs and everyone else (except us). Here's one for a player I just mentioned, D'Wayne Eskridge:

Strengths:
"Explosive"
"Dynamic"
"Extremely fast"
"Glides" through the defense
"Sudden"
"Serious second-gear acceleration" (this is apparently the melanin-enhanced flipside of "non-stop motor")

Weaknesses:
Undersized (5'9", 190 lbs.)
"Needs to develop route running" (apparently something he somehow couldn't learn in high school or college)
"Lacks strength"
"Too many drops"

Lurkers (and NFL GMs) take notice: The strengths for these busts are either meaningless buzzwords like "explosive" or "glides," or abilities that are overrated in football (running very fast in a straight line in shorts). Meanwhile, the weaknesses are glaring red flags - a weak, undersized WR with a problem with drops and a "need to develop route running" (LOL) - but the red flags are ignored because of DAT UPSIDE.

 

[Gator Dad]

Carlos "Boogie" Basham's scouting report (from Walterfootball) is rather funny: It includes "surprising speed" as a strength and "stiffness", "lacks elite athleticism", and "needs to improve sinking his hips" as weaknesses. If not for his picture and his nickname of "Boogie", I'd think it was describing a lunch-pail guy with a non-stop motor.

 

[Don Wassall]

Another thing we should do is when mentioning busts here, also bring up what was written about them in scouting reports so everyone can see just what geniuses draft "experts" are - or perhaps find some red flags that were brought up by scouts but ignored by GMs and everyone else (except us). Here's one for a player I just mentioned, D'Wayne Eskridge:

Weaknesses:
Undersized (5'9", 190 lbs.)
"Needs to develop route running" (apparently something he somehow couldn't learn in high school or college)
"Lacks strength"
"Too many drops"

Lurkers (and NFL GMs) take notice: The strengths for these busts are either meaningless buzzwords like "explosive" or "glides," or abilities that are overrated in football (running very fast in a straight line in shorts). Meanwhile, the weaknesses are glaring red flags - a weak, undersized WR with a problem with drops and a "need to develop route running" (LOL) - but the red flags are ignored because of DAT UPSIDE.

My rule of thumb is that a good 90% or more of Black receivers taken early who are 5'9" or shorter end up being outright busts or at best journeymen/kick returners. And of course every draft brings a new crop of them accompanied with the requisite media hype, same as what happens at safety, cornerback and defensive tackle with the endless revolving door of "upside talent" that shuts out Whites at those positions.

 

[HaywoodZarathustra]

Yes, especially if they are slow. That's insane to choose a small, slow player at those positions, regardless of the room brightening smile.

 

[Bucky]

Dat eternal upside is reserved for

 

[Tannehill17]

Another thing we should do is when mentioning busts here, also bring up what was written about them in scouting reports so everyone can see just what geniuses draft "experts" are - or perhaps find some red flags that were brought up by scouts but ignored by GMs and everyone else (except us). Here's one for a player I just mentioned, D'Wayne Eskridge:

Strengths:
"Explosive"
"Dynamic"
"Extremely fast"
"Glides" through the defense
"Sudden"
"Serious second-gear acceleration" (this is apparently the melanin-enhanced flipside of "non-stop motor")

Weaknesses:
Undersized (5'9", 190 lbs.)
"Needs to develop route running" (apparently something he somehow couldn't learn in high school or college)
"Lacks strength"
"Too many drops"

Lurkers (and NFL GMs) take notice: The strengths for these busts are either meaningless buzzwords like "explosive" or "glides," or abilities that are overrated in football (running very fast in a straight line in shorts). Meanwhile, the weaknesses are glaring red flags - a weak, undersized WR with a problem with drops and a "need to develop route running" (LOL) - but the red flags are ignored because of DAT UPSIDE.

That reminds of me a WR the Dolphins used to have, Jakeem Grant. Guy was small, fast as lightning, but couldn't run routes and had hands of stone. He kept getting chance after chance after chance until the Dolphins finally cut bait with him and traded him to the Bears. A white guy who had those same problems would have been released outright after maybe 1 season. Again, DAT UPSIDE.

 

[Don Wassall]

That reminds of me a WR the Dolphins used to have, Jakeem Grant. Guy was small, fast as lightning, but couldn't run routes and had hands of stone. He kept getting chance after chance after chance until the Dolphins finally cut bait with him and traded him to the Bears. A white guy who had those same problems would have been released outright after maybe 1 season. Again, DAT UPSIDE.

Right on cue. His unrealized upside is still there waiting to be tapped:

NFL Network’s Tom Pelissero reports free agent WR Jakeem Grant will participate in Jets minicamp on a tryout basis. Grant suffered a season-ending knee injury last preseason with the Browns and hasn’t played a regular-season snap since 2021. Grant suffered a torn Achilles in training camp in 2022 but was a second-team All-Pro in 2020 and 2021 while with the Dolphins and Bears. Grant has never totaled more than 373 yards as a receiver and wouldn’t come with any fantasy upside if he were to make the Jets’ 53-man roster.

 

[Leonardfan]

https://nfltraderumors.co/steelers-waiving-wr-denzel-mims/

Huge bust

 

[jphoss]

https://nfltraderumors.co/steelers-waiving-wr-denzel-mims/

Huge bust

His draft analysis was red flag after red flag yet he still got drafted early! He basically benefited from playing vs defense-optional big 12 and is described as a lazy soft football player.
“Lacks release quickness to slide past press jam. Early push upfield is dull and lacks urgency. Slow gather and break from a normal stride. Routes lack focus and salesmanship. Too tall into stems, with modest burst coming out. Competitive nature is lacking in many phases. Allows coverage to crowd routes and contest catches. Needs to become more physical at the top of his route. Despite size, gets bullied at the catch point. History of drops and poor success rate on contested catches”

 

[Logos5]

His draft analysis was red flag after red flag yet he still got drafted early! He basically benefited from playing vs defense-optional big 12 and is described as a lazy soft football player.
“Lacks release quickness to slide past press jam. Early push upfield is dull and lacks urgency. Slow gather and break from a normal stride. Routes lack focus and salesmanship. Too tall into stems, with modest burst coming out. Competitive nature is lacking in many phases. Allows coverage to crowd routes and contest catches. Needs to become more physical at the top of his route. Despite size, gets bullied at the catch point. History of drops and poor success rate on contested catches”

How is it that we notice it and not normies. Are they really that programmed or do they just not care anymore?

 

[Don Wassall]

How is it that we notice it and not normies. Are they really that programmed or do they just not care anymore?

Each draft analysis also has positives in addition to negatives. NFL.com for example described Mims as an "eventual plus starter" in the league, "a long-striding outside target with excellent height, weight and speed and an insane catch-radius. He's a touchdown threat anytime he's near the red zone, with the focus and body control to finesse and finish catches above the rim. . . Above-average combination of size and speed. Stair-steps and leverages corners out of in-breaking routes. Cushion chewer with some of the longest strides in the draft. Build-up speed allows him to bypass and stack coverage. Has a fluid stutter-go move to thwart route jumpers. Effective locating and adjusting to the throw. Fluent ball-snatcher above the rim. Focus sharpens on 50-50 throws. Full-body extension offers vast catch radius. Can reach back and snare back-hip throws without breaking stride. In-route jab steps and speed variations can be molded."

What DWF wouldn't think he's going to be great after reading a glowing report like that? And after someone like Mims is drafted in the second round almost all of the media hype is going to be positive. It doesn't matter if some or all of the negatives contradict some of the positives. The "scouts," "analysts" and "draft experts" have to write something so they go to their book of cliches, just as their "scouting reports" on White players are so predictable many posters here could write them almost word for word.

 

[Leonardfan]

The Jaguars signed Mims. Meanwhile Renfrow remains a free agent.

 

[The Hock]

Each draft analysis also has positives in addition to negatives. NFL.com for example described Mims as an "eventual plus starter" in the league, "a long-striding outside target with excellent height, weight and speed and an insane catch-radius. He's a touchdown threat anytime he's near the red zone, with the focus and body control to finesse and finish catches above the rim. . . Above-average combination of size and speed. Stair-steps and leverages corners out of in-breaking routes. Cushion chewer with some of the longest strides in the draft. Build-up speed allows him to bypass and stack coverage. Has a fluid stutter-go move to thwart route jumpers. Effective locating and adjusting to the throw. Fluent ball-snatcher above the rim. Focus sharpens on 50-50 throws. Full-body extension offers vast catch radius. Can reach back and snare back-hip throws without breaking stride. In-route jab steps and speed variations can be molded."

What DWF wouldn't think he's going to be great after reading a glowing report like that? And after someone like Mims is drafted in the second round almost all of the media hype is going to be positive. It doesn't matter if some or all of the negatives contradict some of the positives. The "scouts," "analysts" and "draft experts" have to write something so they go to their book of cliches, just as their "scouting reports" on White players are so predictable many posters here could write them almost word for word.

Some great wordsmithing on that scouting report. This guy must be a frustrated novelist.

 

[Freethinker]

The Jaguars signed Mims. Meanwhile Renfrow remains a free agent.

A sick joke that’s repeats itself year after year. Mims has 676 yards since entering the league in 2020. Renfrow had 1,038 in his 2021 season alone. But the eternal upside trumps the productivity…

 

[Bucky]

Dat Wakanda upside

 

[sprintstar]

The first description of Mims makes it seem he is dull witted/stupid...the next one makes him sound like a genius lol the first is the truth...
Refrow is a white beast....that is why he is not signed...

 

[jphoss]

One of the consistent negatives I see in these scouting reports among black skill players is “lacks strength”. How someone can go through 3-4 years of a college s&c program and still lack strength is beyond me. It’s really not that hard. It makes me wonder if blacks penchant for vanity and their desire for a “shredded” look keeps them from gaining the requisite strength needed to play in the league

 

[Leonardfan]

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profo...-coach-accused-of-stealing-donation-to-school

Not a recent bust. Probably the biggest bust of all time though. Tom Iron Rule haunts him!

 

[HaywoodZarathustra]

Lol. That blast from the past made me look at this...

https://www.silverandblackpride.com/2010/7/5/1554231/jamarcus-russells-raiders-post

 

[Bucky]

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profo...-coach-accused-of-stealing-donation-to-school

Not a recent bust. Probably the biggest bust of all time though. Tom Iron Rule haunts him!

Lol too funny. Mobile, another American City ruined by bioweapons, er blacks.

 

[Gator Dad]

Speaking of non-recent busts, there's one I want to bring up because he never gets mentioned in the sports media: Akili Smith. One of the biggest busts of all time, JaMarcus Russell levels of bad. Smith was a far bigger bust than guys like Bosworth or Mandarich, yet those guys are brought up every year in some ESPN "biggest busts of all time" retread, while Smith is conveniently forgotten. Strange, huh?

 

[Don Wassall]

Pothead/goofball who repeatedly failed drug tests hasn't played in the NFL since 2018 but teams are still seriously considering him. Dat upside!

6. NFL: Martavis Bryant wants to continue playing​

Source: ProFootballTalk.com - Josh Alper

Free-agent WR Martavis Bryant (Cowboys) said he believes he can help a team if they are willing to give him an opportunity. He said he talked with Carolina Panthers senior assistant recently but did not indicate he is close to a deal.

Our view: Bryant was with the Cowboys' practice squad for the 2023 season, but he hasn't played a regular-season snap since 2018 when he was with the Raiders. Earlier this year, Bryant was scheduled to workout with the Commanders and now the Panthers may be interested. Bryant may land on a roster, but he's a long shot to do much.