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dwid said:
yes and now every dwf is claiming Brooking is "a big crybaby" and that they always hated him and that if he doesn't like it he should have stopped them from scoring (I wasn't aware Brooking played DB)

White players can't do anything without getting hate from dwfs. Afflete Williams claimed Brooking "was about to get his azz whupped" Yeah right, Brooking would destroy him


Yes I have been reading alot of crap from DWF's on various forums about Brooking and it's pissed me off all day. Most of them probably don't even know that Brooking is a five time pro-bowler and by the way, he was right about Childress running up the score.
 

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Childress is Favre's lapdog. Thsy did what was necessary to bolster Favre's anemic career playoff stats.
 

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The Vikings had every right to get one last score to put the game out of reach and add an exclamation point to their convincing win. But it is kind of a fine line. If it had been 34-3 and they passed for another TD at that point in the game it would have been running it up.

At any rate, as much as I respect Brooking and his career, his new "gig" as the leader of the Cowboys' Zulu chant at the beginning of games isn't something that adds to his legend.
 

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Don Wassall said:
I've never considered Favre arrogant, and "cocky" only in the sense that he is very confident in his abilities.  A bit of a prima donna yes, but he exudes nothing but low-key class in his interviews and in the way he conducts himself off the field.  On the field he shows his passion and enjoyment of the sport, but not in a way the least bit reminiscent of the selfish, look-at-me way so many blacks do.


Ditto. I have the exact same opinion about Favre and I am predicting a Manning/Favre Super Bowl with Favre getting the MVP. I don't see the Jets messing this up but I could see Drew Brees throwing a monkey wrench into the whole thing.
 

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Don Wassall said:
The Vikings had every right to get one last score to put the game out of reach and add an exclamation point to their convincing win.  But it is kind of a fine line.  If it had been 34-3 and they passed for another TD at that point in the game it would have been running it up. 
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<div>At any rate, as much as I respect Brooking and his career, his new "gig" as the leader of the Cowboys' Zulu chant at the beginning of games isn't something that adds to his legend.</div>



I think the score was already out of reach but it is a fine line as you posted.I have no problem with the Brooking pre-game chant because it makes the Cowboys look more white and adds to Brooking's popularity but it's kinda like the dumping the gatorade on the head coaches thing, you either like it or you don't. It does kinda look like a Zulu war chant so I can understand why some here hate it, doesn't bother me though.
 

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dwid said:
yes and now every dwf is claiming Brooking is "a big crybaby" and that they always hated him and that if he doesn't like it he should have stopped them from scoring (I wasn't aware Brooking played DB)



White players can't do anything without getting hate from dwfs. Afflete Williams claimed Brooking "was about to get his azz whupped" Yeah right, Brooking would destroy him

DWID, which sumo was it that said that? Was it Pat or Kevin Williams?
 

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I don't think he (or the media) will ever admit the obvious- Ladanian Tomlinson is clearly finished, and the continuous attempt to feed the ball to him is hurting the team.

Tomlinson stinks. This year his rushing average has slipped to 3.3, down from last year's 3.8. If he was White, he would have been relegated to special teams or cut.
 

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I saw the 60 min special on american samoa. The size of those samoan football players are hardly impressive. I see samoans in carson and they are not big people. There certainly not as big as whites.
About the only thing that makes the ones I have seen big is the fact that they are FAT!
 

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dwid said:
yes and now every dwf is claiming Brooking is "a big crybaby" and that they always hated him and that if he doesn't like it he should have stopped them from scoring (I wasn't aware Brooking played DB)

White players can't do anything without getting hate from dwfs. Afflete Williams claimed Brooking "was about to get his azz whupped" Yeah right, Brooking would destroy him
DWID, which sumo was it that said that?  Was it Pat or Kevin Williams?
The fatter one, Pat.

the prototypical afflete haha

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Edited by: dwid
 

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I'm sure the Vikqueen afrolete is jealous that Brooking is a multi-time Pro Bowler & a team leader. I understand Keith's being PO'd, and I'm sure he'd have KO'd afflete Williams (had it came down to that). "Brat Child'sdress" looks like "chester the molestor" to me anyways.
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P.S. - I think the pre-game zulu/chimp-out is totally bush-league & obnoxious myself.

I'll be pulling for tha "Aints" vs. the Colts. I'd pull for "Noo Yawk" if Woodhead got (alot) more reps. I was really PO'd to see Thomas YOnes & that turd Shonn Greene get all those carries.
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I don't really have a problem with Colts Coach Caldwell.
He knows he's along for the ride. Colts clearly the best pick for Caste aware fans re the game vs the Jets.
Offense is generally fair to Whites...yes, the black D, but the Jets have Leonard and Woodhead and that's about it. Woodhead will likely not even get on the field.

As for the NFC, guess I'll get behind the Vikings. Ironically only because their D features some very capable White players in Allen, Greenway, Leber and Robison (when they let him play). I've always like Kleinsasser. Wish he'd get the ball more as he can catch out of the backfield.

Saints have a decent amount of White players who get time: Shanle, Fujita, Shockey, Thomas, Charleston (kind of a Robison clone). Shines when he plays, but should play MORE.
Would be great to get Eckel, Evans and Reis in there more.
NFC is kind of a toss up from a Caste aware perspective.

Wouldn't mind at all the Saints getting to the SB. Brees is playing insane right now.

If the Saints would start Reis and Charleston on the D and dump a few useless Sumo fat a$$es for athletic, skillful White OLmen, Saints could indeed be a very fair team.

NFC kind of a toss up.
Media is in love with Bush and Peterson now. So they will anoint one of these two for SB hype status.
 

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The Saints Heath Evans has been on IR since blowing his knee out in Week #7....they miss his versatility for sure...this season he had 1 TD rushing...but 2 TD's receiving; more than his entire "career" total of 1 with Seahawks, Patriots &amp; Dolphins; offensive guru/coach Sean Peyton get's the most out of his players and was utilizing Evans talents more...only thing missing is Mike Hass...



DB-Chris Reis was inactive for some reason...

No mistake the 3 Best QB's in the NFLare still in the playoffs...Manning, Brees &amp; Favre!!! Edited by: TwentyTwo
 

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Eckel should see more of an Evan's type role, I suspect there will be a lot of short dump off passes because of the Vikes pass rush, no reason why Eckel shouldn't get a few of those, unless he meant Troy Evans who is the backup for both linebacker spots. Despite what Saints fans would have you believe, he did a fine job filling in while Fujita was out.

Charleston was used quite a bit last game as Charles Grant is out for the season, imo hes better suited to play in Grant's spot than McCray or Spicer.

They have a pro bowl right tackle in Stinchcomb who the most athletic lineman on the team, should be playing on the left side. In my opinion, Strief should be playing left tackle for the next game though. Bushrod is going to get exposed yet against going against Jared Allen, he couldn't handle the power of Chris Long, I doubt he will be able to handle Allen. Saints fans don't think Strief has the "athleticism" to play LT or handle speed rushers but has done fine whenever he had to step up in the past, he didn't allow Dumerville to get any pressure on Brees last year, he has played several games the past few years with no problem yet when Brown went down, they went with Bushrod, who struggles constantly and usually has a te helping or Strief lined up next to him when going against above average de's/olbs


[TUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2jUkQ09ps4[/TUBE]

no strength at all, imagine that being Jared Allen, that is if Bushrod doesn't have Strief or shockey/thomas helping out
David Thomas lined up as a receiver on that playEdited by: dwid
 

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The Vikings' totally gratuitous passing TD at the end of the game was merely the latest in a series of acts by modern coaches that represent poor sportsmanship at its worst. For decades, there was an unwritten agreement among all coaches not to purposefully run up the score on opponents. Even the few college powerhouse programs, that routintely won most of their games by 40-50 points, put their 2nd and 3rd stringers in after the outcome had been decided.

Buddy Ryan and Jimmy Johnson were the first NFL coaches who brought the unprincipled, bad sportsmanship act into the league. In recent years, Bill Belicheck has made it into an art form. In response to these unprecedented acts of poor sportsmanship, every jock sniffer in the media defends the coaches, with the typical, scripted response being "If you don't like it, stop them." This mantra is quoted so often that it's almost like some of the other party lines we've talked about here, which seem to be dictated from somewhere off stage.

When I coached youth sports, we ran into this kind of thing a few times. In such cases, the behavior of said coaches was roundly condemned by everyone. In the NFL, it is now apparently acceptable to blatantly run up the score on the opposition, in the eyes of fans and jock sniffing "journalists" alike. That sends out yet another disastrous message to young people everywhere. It also fits in nicely with the selfish, boastful arrogance that we see in nearly every black player.

As you know, I happen to think much, if not all, of these sporting events are scripted entertainment, just like all the other poisonous garbage on television. If we accept that these games are true, competitive events, then we should condemn this kind of poor sportsmanship. Grantland Rice summed it up best: "It matters not whether you win or lose, but how you played the game." That used to be a very popular and well-known expression.
 
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Don Wassall said:
I've never considered Favre arrogant, and "cocky" only in the sense that he is very confident in his abilities.  A bit of a prima donna yes, but he exudes nothing but low-key class in his interviews and in the way he conducts himself off the field.  On the field he shows his passion and enjoyment of the sport, but not in a way the least bit reminiscent of the selfish, look-at-me way so many blacks do.

Weren't the sports media types asking Favre, "When are you going to retire?," 5 years ago?"
 

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dwid said:
whiteathlete33 said:
dwid said:
yes and now every dwf is claiming Brooking is "a big crybaby" and that they always hated him and that if he doesn't like it he should have stopped them from scoring (I wasn't aware Brooking played DB)

White players can't do anything without getting hate from dwfs. Afflete Williams claimed Brooking "was about to get his azz whupped" Yeah right, Brooking would destroy him
DWID, which sumo was it that said that?  Was it Pat or Kevin Williams?
The fatter one, Pat.

the prototypical afflete haha

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Most of these Affletic sumos need to carry around hankies like old ladies, to wipe the swear from underneath their saggy tits.
 

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sport historian said:
Don Wassall said:
I've never considered Favre arrogant, and "cocky" only in the sense that he is very confident in his abilities. A bit of a prima donna yes, but he exudes nothing but low-key class in his interviews and in the way he conducts himself off the field. On the field he shows his passion and enjoyment of the sport, but not in a way the least bit reminiscent of the selfish, look-at-meway so many blacks do.

Weren't the sports media types asking Favre, "When are you going to retire?," 5 years ago?"

Yep, they began badgering him about retirement when he was in his prime -- hell, he's still in his prime -- even though he never brought up the subject himself. Then, when he hit his late 30s and hemmed and hawed about it, the caste media writers became offended.

It was the same thing with Roger Clemens -- twolegendary White athletes the "white" sportswriters seemed to betrying to willto retire before their time. Even if it ends this weekend, what Favre has done this year is one of the great sports stories ever. Edited by: Don Wassall
 

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Here is my take on the"running up the score" debate.
I am totally in favor of running up the score. For three reasons.
1. I have learned from my own sporting experiences that a contest is never over until thefinal whistle/bell/hooter/fat lady etc. I have learned that when you are on top press down on your opponent even more. Grind his nose into the dirt and keep it there, and you will win. This sounds harsh - but this is how you convert a winning situation into a victory.
2. If the losing team has a problem with a winning team running up the score then they are at liberty to stop them doing it. Fight off that blocker, stick to that receiver like glue, make that tackle or get to that quarterback. Stop blaming the other team. IT IS YOUR FAULT!
3. What is the winning team suposed to do? Take a knee, throw the losers an interception or two? What are the fans who paid their hard earned money supposed to do? Talk amoungst themsleves for the last 30 minutes. Have a game of cards?The players are paid to play football and they should do it to the best of their ability until the final whistle.
 

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I can understand how its bad to run up the score against little kids, who will probably be upset for days after they and their friends lose, but who the hell cares if some professional football team of grown men run up the score in a game. Guys on NFL teams are adults and shouldnt moan and weep about running up the score.
The NFL is supposed to be a tough place, so its ridiculous when some 30 year old complains that the other team was mean to them.
 

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Wait a minute. A lot of people that were for the Colts benching Manning to avoid injury are for Brett Favre dropping back to pass in the final minutes of blowout game when the opponent had no time-outs? Personally, I don't like running-up the score and risking injury to your franchise QB. Edited by: Kaptain Poop
 

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It makes perfect sense to rest your QB, im just saying that its stupid to complain if another team kicks your tail by running up the score.
 

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Bear Backer,

Good picture. I've always thought that these guys are far too big. If a team can keep guys like your picture on the field, they'll win the game. That's all the Jets are doing, wearing down the opposition. You can see that in the second half of games, the Jets come on. The other team's front four are dead on their feet by then. Even straight ahead dives make 5-6 yrds for the Jets in the second half.

Tom Iron...
 

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This is the playoffs. The vikings need all the in-game "practice" they can get with their offense before playing the high scoring Saints.
 

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Is it OK to run up the score with your backup QB?
Or is this also "un-sporting" to the opposition?
You see my point.
I can understand taking a few key players out of a game once you are 30 points ahead - but you should still continue to try to score points. This is useful experience for your backups after all. Experience that may be very valuable when a key player gets hurt and the backup is on the field trying to win a game for you.
 

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Re Running up the Score debate: valid points all around, and fine in theory.
However, let me mention there are certain 'unwritten rules' and terms of engagement if you will. Mostly adhered to by coaches and team leaders. In certain sports such as Football, Hockey, even basketball, there does exists a sort of unwritten code about things such as running up the score or dogging another player - on purpose with intent especially, not to mention headhunting or stick play (in Hockey for example).

Fighting exists in Hockey way beyond the fact of fan support, but as another check and balance in a game where people literally have weapons at their disposal. And you know what they say about things in the heat of battle/play...
Point is that if a team runs up the score on purpose and in a certain context (which is indeed a grey area), the blow back of cheap shotting, head hunting, or knee hunting (say in Football) may be a result and no one needs this, especially the players and coaches.

You're right in theory about stopping them and all this. Yet, if you've ever actually played at a level higher then little league, you'd understand about the code and if another player or team perceives malicious intent about running it up or hot dogging, sometimes knee hunting or trying to physically take out a player sometimes can occur.

Fact of the matter is that for the more violent combat team sports to work, there must exist certain codes of conduct, both official and more important unofficial. In football, it is literally possible to take out someone's knee on any and every play.

Look, I like Farve and in many ways he is a fantastic Caste buster. Kind of rooting for him to get to the SB. Having said that, actions like last Sunday could (emphasis on COULD) result in a angry Cowboy going for a Viking's knee...perhaps a key player too.

Bottom line: adhere to the codes as best as possible or don't complain about the potential consequences.
You need to have certain trust not only of your teammates, but frankly the opposition in many respects. Football is a truly dangerous game.
 
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