whiteathlete33
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I'll give Mangini credit as well but Hillis should have been the starter from the beginning of the season. Obviously he didn't have the "look" , so a far less talented back(Harrison) was originally the starter.
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Put the order in (I've been meaning to since the Ravens gm) for my #40 Hillis jersey!! The city of Cleveland is falling in love with his guy. Pictures of the man fill the facebook profile pics of people all over the city; with more and more jerseys popping up across NE Ohio. Now that LeBron has left town can it be Peyton Hillis who takes the crown of unofficial Mayor and King of Cleveland Sports??!
The ball is in Peyton's court and this guy has a chance to be the new Bob Feller/Jim Brown/Lebron type All-Pro athlete this city loves to hang their hat on.
The ball is in Peyton's court and this guy has a chance to be the new Bob Feller/Jim Brown/Lebron type All-Pro athlete this city loves to hang their hat on.
It's fun to see so many writers and fans rip on McDaniels, and deservedly so, but the reality is thatHillis was buried also by Shanahan until a half dozen "real" running backs went down, and just about any new coach in Denver would have done the same thing McDaniels did, because that's the way the NFL has done business for the past quarter century. I read everything there was to read when Hillis was traded to Cleveland, and no writers -- not a one --wrotethat Hillis was feature back material. At best, some saw him as a goal line back who could also catch.
They're all "McDaniels" (hypocrites) who wouldn't look at Hillis objectively because he's White, and Whites aren't allowed to be tailbacks. And while Mangini and Holmgren deserve credit for trading for him, they turned right around and drafted a back in April who was supposed to be the team's workhorse for years to come. Hillis had to overcome repeated obstacles to success starting after high school, but he perservered and thankfully he's the right man at the right time. Edited by: Don Wassall
They're all "McDaniels" (hypocrites) who wouldn't look at Hillis objectively because he's White, and Whites aren't allowed to be tailbacks. And while Mangini and Holmgren deserve credit for trading for him, they turned right around and drafted a back in April who was supposed to be the team's workhorse for years to come. Hillis had to overcome repeated obstacles to success starting after high school, but he perservered and thankfully he's the right man at the right time. Edited by: Don Wassall
Van_Slyke_CF
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From today's Yahoo! article by Charles Robinson:
"The truth is, McDaniels never believed in Hillis, and the running back said as much when he joined Cleveland this offseason. Maybe only Hillis believed in himself, since nobody in the media (including me) was shooting a thumbs-up in Cleveland's direction at the time of the deal."
CASTE FOOTBALL BELIEVED IN PEYTON HILLIS FOR YEARS.
"The truth is, McDaniels never believed in Hillis, and the running back said as much when he joined Cleveland this offseason. Maybe only Hillis believed in himself, since nobody in the media (including me) was shooting a thumbs-up in Cleveland's direction at the time of the deal."
CASTE FOOTBALL BELIEVED IN PEYTON HILLIS FOR YEARS.
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Don Wassall said:
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Ive been a Hillis fan since his days at Arkansas and I have Castefootball to thank...this is a great success story. I really cannot remember seeing someone like him ever at running back...he really does like a human version of the Juggernaut
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backrow said:Do you guys know where to download this game?
Oh and Snow, if Hillis gets 200 against the Jets he should be crowned a league's MVP hahaI'd be happy with a solid 100 and a score!
Thepiratebay, search for "patriots browns." I have to download it as well as I didn't get a chance to watch it this Sunday.
whiteathlete33
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Here is a link to download this game. You need a program such as UTorrent to open the torrent.
http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5942346/NFL_Week9_11-7-2010_New_England_Patriots_at_Cleveland_Browns
http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5942346/NFL_Week9_11-7-2010_New_England_Patriots_at_Cleveland_Browns
Colonel_Reb
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Yes, CF has believed in Peyton Hillis all along. I'm really happy for him and wish him even more success in re-integrating many NFL end zones in the future!
GWTJ
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There is only one hurdle left for Hillis. I haven't heard much talk about it but it could end all the fun.
Will Hillis be the starter next year? Hardesty will be back next season and I am very concerned Hillis will lose a lot of carries if not the starting tailback job. Mangini had no use for Hillis until Hardesty went down. This could be a huge story next year if Mangini goes back to the status quo and tries to bury Hillis.
Will Hillis be the starter next year? Hardesty will be back next season and I am very concerned Hillis will lose a lot of carries if not the starting tailback job. Mangini had no use for Hillis until Hardesty went down. This could be a huge story next year if Mangini goes back to the status quo and tries to bury Hillis.
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Not going to happen if Hillis continues the way he has been producing while healthy. The two relatively mediocre games he had after the back to back 100 yard games were because he was gimpy. Since he has been been healthy Hillis has been showing the same burst and producing similar numbers to what he did when he first wrestled the starting job away from Harrison. I could see a Alstott Dunn type situation where 40 percent of the carries could go to Hardesty though. There is no point to crossing that Rubicon until we have to, enjoy the moment for what it is, history in the making...GWTJ said:
white is right said:Not going to happen if Hillis continues the way he has been producing while healthy. The two relatively mediocre games he had after the back to back 100 yard games were because he was gimpy. Since he has been been healthy Hillis has been showing the same burst and producing similar numbers to what he did when he first wrestled the starting job away from Harrison. I could see a Alstott Dunn type situation where 40 percent of the carries could go to Hardesty though. There is no point to crossing that Rubicon until we have to, enjoy the moment for what it is, history in the making...GWTJ said:
I agree, as long asHillis stays healthy. The Browns would be winless without him. He's already a legend now in Cleveland, and anyway a strong gust of wind is all it takes for one of Hardesty's knees to give out.
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So far Peyton has been the guy dishing out injuries. Earlier this season, Peyton knocked two defensive players out of the game after collisions with Peyton, he's clearly the best 4th quarter TB in the NFL and nobody wants to tackle this guy straight up. I hate all the Csonka comparisons, I compare Hillis more to Earl Cambell except I think Hillis is a better pass catcher than Earl ever was.
FootballDad
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Watching Hillis pound the Patriots defense in the second half reminded me of last year's Stanford Cardinal team that had a seldom-used Minnesota Vikings running back dominating.......
whiteathlete33
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FootballDad said:
Gerhart is slightly faster than Hillis but not nearly as powerful. When Hillis runs he just destroys everything in his path.
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Hillis's hands are as soft as can be. I don't recall ever seeing him dropa passeither.
And he is definitely reminiscent of Campbell -- amazing power and probably a little faster than Campbell. I hopePeyton breaks off acouple 70 and 80 yard TD runsthis season. That'll shut up all but the most die-hard Caste clowns who say he's slow. That 35 yard TD run Sunday would have gone a lot farther if he hadn't run out of field. Edited by: Don Wassall
Hey everyone, go vote for Peyton Hillis as the FedEx Ground Player of the week
http://www.nfl.com/partner?partnerType=players-air-and-ground
I think if he wins, it will be his 2nd time, right? the last being against the Jets, even though he shouldve gotten it against the Ravens.
http://www.nfl.com/partner?partnerType=players-air-and-ground
I think if he wins, it will be his 2nd time, right? the last being against the Jets, even though he shouldve gotten it against the Ravens.
Here's a description from a fantasy site of one of the clowns Hillis was forced to block for at Arkansas:
Felix Jones not only had little room to run, but he also dropped passes and missed blitz assignments that created sack-fumbles. The talent is there, but the focus is not. Jones is no better than a flex-option or desperation RB3 at this stage of the season.
So far, the former first round picks Jones (6) and Darren McFadden (11) that Hillis blocked for have combined for 17 career touchdowns in the NFL. In much more limited playing time, Hillis already has 15 career TDs.
Felix Jones not only had little room to run, but he also dropped passes and missed blitz assignments that created sack-fumbles. The talent is there, but the focus is not. Jones is no better than a flex-option or desperation RB3 at this stage of the season.
So far, the former first round picks Jones (6) and Darren McFadden (11) that Hillis blocked for have combined for 17 career touchdowns in the NFL. In much more limited playing time, Hillis already has 15 career TDs.