Peter new champion???

Sean

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So Peter proves even further how overrated he is. Thought he'd get an easy fight against a bum (Mcline is only the second legitimate heavyweight contender Peter has fought...he lost to Klitschko) and then it turned out that bum almost beat him. Peter is all hype.
 

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What a crock these idiot boxing organizations and networks can make of the sport sometimes. Two guys who have both had their asses kicked by Vlad, and Blowtime never mentioned him, except to show Peter's rabbit punch knockdowns of Vlad and imply Peter got a bad decision.

The pre-fight hype was absolutely shameless. "Arguably the most talented, most successful Heavyweight..." WTF?! Gimme a break. What success? Beating an old, fat, slow, short James Toney- and losing to Klitschko? I guess what they really meant was, "Arguably the most talented, most successful Heavyweight who fights for Showtime." They're not going to give someone who fights exclusively for HBO any credit. If Wlad were fighting for them, they'd be singing a different tune.

Those three knockdowns were so exciting. But McCline had nothing left after the third round. He wasn't a particularly good match-up for Peter anyway, at least on paper. I would like to see someone with more speed against Peter, like Ibragimov.

Since when does a knocked down fighter get a 12 or 13 count? The stupid ass ref gave a full mandatory eight count to Peter on his knockdowns, then interviewed him for four or five seconds to see if he was okay and wanted to keep fighting. That crooked turd knew which fighter Blowtime wanted to win.

Yeah, he did give him a long time, didn't he? And really, he could've stopped the fight after the 3rd knockdown.

I'm sure Vlad will watch a tape, and sharpen up that nice upper cut he unveiled in the Brewster fight. If they ever fight again, three rounds tops for Vlad to destroy that fat dumb African bastard.

I cannot wait for that fight! Every time I hear the Peter hype I just want Wlad to beat him so bad and so convincingly.
 

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Mcline is a 2-4 round opponent for Wladimir, a 8-10 round opponent for Ibragimov, a 8-10 round opponent for Maskaev, and a 8-10 round opponent for Chagaev. I mean he is an opponent, that's all.
Samuel's Peter looked like junk against Mcline. From all accounts he should have been knocked out. He's not elusive, he's NOT an especially hard puncher, and he's looked bad in all of his last 5 fights. So what are we to make of him? He's possibly the best of the black fighters out there and King wants a black champ. He learned his trade in Africa and since when do Africans know much about boxing?
I think Vitali or Maskaev will get there chance to knock him out. Vitali will finish him in 3 and Maskaev in 10. I'm with you gentlemen, I can't wait for these fights to be made.
 

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Sam Peter will ALWAYS have a punchers chance...those rabbit punches can do a lot of damage
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Sean said:
Sam Peter will ALWAYS have a punchers chance...those rabbit punches can do a lot of damage
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That's true - and if anybody doesn't believe it, ask Gerald McClellan's family.

McClellan's blind, half-deaf and can't walk after rabbit punches by Nigel Benn "The Dark Destroyer" damaged the part of the brain at the back of his head that attaches to his spinal cord.

Hittin the back of an opponent's head is illegal for a good reason - and if Peter keeps doing it to his opponents and getting away with it, someone will eventually be seriously injured.
 

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Sean said:
Sam Peter will ALWAYS have a punchers chance...those rabbit punches can do a lot of damage
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That's true - and if anybody doesn't believe it, ask Gerald McClellan's family.

McClellan's blind, half-deaf and can't walk after rabbit punches by Nigel Benn "The Dark Destroyer" damaged the part of the brain at the back of his head that attaches to his spinal cord.

Hittin the back of an opponent's head is illegal for a good reason - and if Peter keeps doing it to his opponents and getting away with it, someone will eventually be seriously injured.

It's rediculous! Peter is a very dirty fighter. Against Klitschko, the knockdowns were caused by rabbit punches. People said Klitschko was turning away from the punches, but thats not the case. Peter rabbit punches everyone, and he should be warned, points taken, and eventually DQ'ed because he's made a very bad habit of it.
 
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House referees working for Don King let Peter get away with anything and everything, That filthy crooked sonofabitch Randy Neuman was refereeing the Wlad-Peter fight. Is Neuman Jewish too?




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Lou Duva is another clown who makes me sick. Other than knockout power Peter has nothing. He is too slow to hang with any of the Russians, I am sure of this. Peter thinks he is someone in the division but in reality its all a scam. Supposedly the fight between Maskaev and Peter may happen on Feb 2. Wait and see.
 

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House referees working for Don King let Peter get away with anything and everything,   That filthy crooked sonofabitch Randy Neuman was refereeing the Wlad-Peter fight.  Is Neuman Jewish too?ww

I checked but couldn't verify. Neuman definitely sounds Jewish so I would certainly bet he is.
 

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Neuman is most likely ethnic German on his fathers side of the family. He is a terrible referee. He just allows fouls all day and has the attitude of father from the 50's. Funny he was a fighter in the 70's who was a notch below world class, so you would think he would understand about rabbit punching and hitting on the break. The best fight he ever reffed was Ruiz vs Golota two known foulers and he let them do everything to each other........
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I checked but couldn't verify. Neuman definitely sounds Jewish so I would certainly bet he is.
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Neuman is most likely ethnic German on his fathers side of the family. He is a terrible referee. He just allows fouls all day and has the attitude of father from the 50's.Funny he was a fighter in the 70's who was a notch below world class, so you would think he would understand about rabbit punching and hitting on the break. The best fight he ever reffed was Ruiz vs Golota two known foulers and he let them do everything to each other....





I challenge you to show me one single foul or illegal move of any kind whatsoever that Andrew Golota made in the fight with Ruiz - or Byrd! Andrew beat them both fair and square and he was robbed by Don King's judges and Don King's referee, too.



I have never seen Neuman refereeing any fight except those that King wanted specially fixed. He was like the special referee assigned to dog Golota. I remember Foreman - the only boxing announcer I had any respect for - but that was before he sold out to get his job back - complaining about Neuman's blatant harrassment of Golota in the Grant fight. Why didn't Golta's management complain when they are assigned a crooked referee, especially when it is done repeatedly - or are they in on the fix?



Furthermore, a good referee, you'll hardly notice he's there, whereas Neuman, barking and carrying on, tries to make himself the center of attention.



Randy Neuman just fits right in with the current in-your-face corrupt boxing scene.











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Neu means new in German. I doubt Neuman is pure German anyway. He looks Irish to me but what do I know. Concerning Golota fouling it's been a while since I saw those two fights. I don't recall much beyond hitting on the break, no vicious fouling in those two fights. Golota's rep is based off the Pouha and Bowe fights. He is no more dirty than any other fighter these days.
 

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Will the fans have to travel to Cancun to watch Maskaev vs Peter. That is the latest rumour as the fight can't seem to find a home in America. This title fight can't find a home and doesn't have much public appeal. I think Klitschko vs Iggy is already dwarfing the heavyweight landscape.
 

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Truth told, Maskaev vs. Peter is not a very exciting fight. It's a 39 year old boxer who hasn't fought in over a year coming off a serious back injury, against a limited, overrated fighter who wouldn't receive much attention if he wasn't a negro.
 
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True, but I like Maskaev a lot. Cancun seems a very odd place to hold a fight between a Khazak and a Nigerian, though. Why aren't they holding it in Russia or in Khazakstan? Are they trying to sabotage it? Who's going to buy tickets to see it in Cancun?
 

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King tried to pull another Rumble in the Jungle by having a sugar daddy in Nigeria give a site fee that failed.(I guess the old Lagos phony million dollar cheque scheme couldn't fool King). The problem with Russia is the time zone difference. Showtime bought the US rights and they would have to delay the broadcast or force the fight to go off at 5am Moscow time. The last idea of the Stan having the fight is impossible for the timezone reason and the lack of money in the state and maybe even the political situation.
 
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I still don't get Cancun. Is some Mexican Mafia resort owner giving King and Showtime a big kickback? Why not in some indian gambling casino near some population center in the USA?

Are they going to bring down Joe Cortez to referee the fight and follow Oleg around the ring deducting points and yelling in his face from six inches away?




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I don't know how the economics would work on a fight in Cancun? If they scale down the prices for Mexicans the fight could never be in the black. Also tourists from the States and other western countries probably can't fill the void either. Maybe somebody is washing some narco pesos...
 

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JD1986 said:
Truth told, Maskaev vs. Peter is not a very exciting fight. It's a 39 year old boxer who hasn't fought in over a year coming off a serious back injury, against a limited, overrated fighter who wouldn't receive much attention if he wasn't a negro.

I disagree. Unless age has caught up with Maskaev, he's still a highly skilled, exciting fighter to watch. And Peter knocked down Klitschko a few times in a losing battle. Both these boxers will make for an exciting fight.Edited by: Alpha Male
 

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JD1986 said:
Truth told, Maskaev vs. Peter is not a very exciting fight. It's a 39 year old boxer who hasn't fought in over a year coming off a serious back injury, against a limited, overrated fighter who wouldn't receive much attention if he wasn't a negro.

I disagree. Unless age has caught up with Maskaev, he's still a highly skilled, exciting fighter to watch. And Peter knocked down Klitschko a few times in a losing battle. Both these boxers will make for an exciting fight.

I'm hoping Maskeav has recovered, but to be realistic, he was diagnosed with serious problems in several disks in his back, and so I can't imagine he'll be the same as before.

As for Peter, he knocked Wlad down twice with illegal rabbit punches to the back of the head, and the other one was a push down. If Peter and Wlad fight again, Wlad will destroy him in an early round. Sam Peter is sh*t without his illegal rabbit punches.
 
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I'm hoping Maskeav has recovered, but to be realistic, he was diagnosed with serious problems in several disks in his back, and so I can't imagine he'll be the same as before.


Doctors are so full of sh*t diagnosing back problems. Nobody actually knows what causes most back problems. I used to have a pal who was a rather prominent sports medicine physician, a physiatrist. A lot of Hollywood and big money types went to him with their neck problems and back problems and so forth. I remember how once I was in his house and he was lounging in his easy chair bitching to his wife about how his back hurt!

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As for Peter, he knocked Wlad down twice with illegal rabbit punches to the back of the head, and the other one was a push down. If Peter and Wlad fight again, Wlad will destroy him in an early round. Sam Peter is sh*t without his illegal rabbit punches.
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He's another one who gets assigned a special house referee to watch over him and not notice his dirty tricks and dog his opponent, Randy Neuman. Neuman seems to be the special house ref they trot out to dog the big White guys, like Andrew and Wlad. Why don't their corners protest when they repeatedly trot out this crooked and incompetent *******!? Or maybe, since he just did such a good job for them, they'll use Joe Cortez again, or is he too small?



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Werewolf that was pretty funny one regarding the 'back Doctor'. Regarding Maskeav, if he has fully healed and boxes smart, I say its a pick up fight. But based on Peter's last fight, maybe he has a glass jaw. If Maskeav is able to weather the early storm then drag Peter into deep water and connect with the shot that took out Hasim, he could win by KO. Lets hope.
 
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Yep, it would be great if Oleg does the African like he did the last Great Black Hope! I don't think the fix will be in on this one - I think that the Mafiya forced Oleg to take a dive a couple of times but now he's on the loose, so I'll be surprised if I see a Neuman or Cortez refereeing the fight and letting the African get away with his usual monkey business, and dogging the white guy, the usual. But then you got this Cancun business, and I don't know what that's all about. Gotta watch last minute changes in the betting odds. This sport is so f'ing crooked!





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Do you guys remember last summer when Oleg won that belt from Rahman? That has to be one of my fondest boxing memories. I just remember how proud I was of him, and how proud I was of white HW boxers. If Oleg could beat Peter (which is now looking possible, judging from the McCline fight), it would COMPLETELY change boxing. Peter is literally the only black HW who could even last 3 rounds with the Russians without getting his head knocked off.

I do think Peter is a very hard puncher with a pretty good chin (at least before McCline), but he's slow, fat, unathletic, has no stamina, short, and has no reach. Oleg will have at least 2-3 inches in height and some reach in his favor.

If Peter falls to Maskaev, the future of HW boxing will be lilly white for years and years, as all the great HW prospects are white. I'll keep my fingers crossed for him...Edited by: Thrashen
 
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