Deadlift
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Panthers Draft!
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Any idea who they'll draft?
Deadlift
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I think they will take a RB in the early rounds, but I don't know who.
Scouts Inc's latest mock has the Panthers taking DE Derrick Harvey. Mel Kiper projects them taking OT Ryan Clady. This is shaping up to be the blackest first round ever. Here's Kiper's latest:
<TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3 width="100%" ="table widetable"><T>
<T>
<TR ="stat">
<TD colSpan=4>Kiper's First-Round Projection</TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=top ="col">
<TD>No.</TD>
<TD>Team</TD>
<TD>Player</TD>
<TD>School</TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=top ="evenrow">
<TD>1</TD>
<TD>Miami Dolphins</TD>
<TD>Jake Long, OT</TD>
<TD>Michigan</TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=top ="evenrow">
<TD>2</TD>
<TD>St. Louis Rams</TD>
<TD>Chris Long, DE</TD>
<TD>Virginia</TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=top ="evenrow">
<TD>3</TD>
<TD>Atlanta Falcons</TD>
<TD>Glenn Dorsey, DT</TD>
<TD>LSU</TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=top ="evenrow">
<TD>4</TD>
<TD>Oakland Raiders</TD>
<TD>*Darren McFadden</A>, RB</TD>
<TD>Arkansas</TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=top ="evenrow">
<TD>5</TD>
<TD>Kansas City Chiefs</TD>
<TD>*Branden Albert, OT/G</TD>
<TD>Virginia</TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=top ="evenrow">
<TD>6</TD>
<TD>New York Jets</TD>
<TD>*Vernon Gholston, DE</TD>
<TD>Ohio St.</TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=top ="evenrow">
<TD>7</TD>
<TD>New England Patriots (from SF)</TD>
<TD>*Aqib Talib, CB</TD>
<TD>Kansas</TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=top ="evenrow">
<TD>8</TD>
<TD>Baltimore Ravens</TD>
<TD>Matt Ryan, QB</TD>
<TD>Boston College</TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=top ="evenrow">
<TD>9</TD>
<TD>Cincinnati Bengals</TD>
<TD>Sedrick Ellis, DT</TD>
<TD>USC</TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=top ="evenrow">
<TD>10</TD>
<TD>New Orleans Saints</TD>
<TD>Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, CB</TD>
<TD>Tennessee St.</TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=top ="evenrow">
<TD>11</TD>
<TD>Buffalo Bills</TD>
<TD>*Derrick Harvey, DE</TD>
<TD>Florida</TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=top ="evenrow">
<TD>12</TD>
<TD>Denver Broncos</TD>
<TD>Keith Rivers, LB</TD>
<TD>USC</TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=top ="evenrow">
<TD>13</TD>
<TD>Carolina Panthers</TD>
<TD>*Ryan Clady, OT</TD>
<TD>Boise St.</TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=top ="evenrow">
<TD>14</TD>
<TD>Chicago Bears</TD>
<TD>Chris Williams, OT</TD>
<TD>Vanderbilt</TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=top ="evenrow">
<TD>15</TD>
<TD>Detroit Lions</TD>
<TD>*Rashard Mendenhall</A>, RB</TD>
<TD>Illinois</TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=top ="evenrow">
<TD>16</TD>
<TD>Arizona Cardinals</TD>
<TD>Leodis McKelvin, CB</TD>
<TD>Troy</TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=top ="evenrow">
<TD>17</TD>
<TD>Minnesota Vikings</TD>
<TD>*Phillip Merling, DE</TD>
<TD>Clemson</TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=top ="evenrow">
<TD>18</TD>
<TD>Houston Texans</TD>
<TD>*Jonathan Stewart</A>, RB</TD>
<TD>Oregon</TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=top ="evenrow">
<TD>19</TD>
<TD>Philadelphia Eagles</TD>
<TD>Jeff Otah, OT</TD>
<TD>Pittsburgh</TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=top ="evenrow">
<TD>20</TD>
<TD>Tampa Bay Buccaneers</TD>
<TD>Mike Jenkins, CB</TD>
<TD>South Florida</TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=top ="evenrow">
<TD>21</TD>
<TD>Washington Redskins</TD>
<TD>*Devin Thomas, WR</TD>
<TD>Michigan St.</TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=top ="evenrow">
<TD>22</TD>
<TD>Dallas Cowboys (from CLE)</TD>
<TD>*Felix Jones</A>, RB</TD>
<TD>Arkansas</TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=top ="evenrow">
<TD>23</TD>
<TD>Pittsburgh Steelers</TD>
<TD>Kentwan Balmer, DT</TD>
<TD>North Carolina</TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=top ="evenrow">
<TD>24</TD>
<TD>Tennessee Titans</TD>
<TD>*DeSean Jackson</A>, WR</TD>
<TD>California</TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=top ="evenrow">
<TD>25</TD>
<TD>Seattle Seahawks</TD>
<TD>Dustin Keller, TE</TD>
<TD>Purdue</TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=top ="evenrow">
<TD>26</TD>
<TD>Jacksonville Jaguars</TD>
<TD>Lawrence Jackson, DE</TD>
<TD>USC</TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=top ="evenrow">
<TD>27</TD>
<TD>San Diego Chargers</TD>
<TD>Gosder Cherilus, OT</TD>
<TD>Boston College</TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=top ="evenrow">
<TD>28</TD>
<TD>Dallas Cowboys</TD>
<TD>*Justin King, CB</TD>
<TD>Penn St.</TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=top ="evenrow">
<TD>29</TD>
<TD>San Francisco 49ers (from IND)</TD>
<TD>*Jerod Mayo, LB</TD>
<TD>Tennessee</TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=top ="evenrow">
<TD>30</TD>
<TD>Green Bay Packers</TD>
<TD>*Brandon Flowers, CB</TD>
<TD>Virginia Tech</TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=top ="evenrow">
<TD>31</TD>
<TD>New England Patriots</TD>
<TD>Forfeited pick</TD>
<TD></TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=top ="evenrow">
<TD>32</TD>
<TD>New York Giants</TD>
<TD>Tyrell Johnson, S</TD>
<TD>Arkansas St.</TD></TR></T></T></TABLE>Edited by: Don Wassall
<TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3 width="100%" ="table widetable"><T>
<T>
<TR ="stat">
<TD colSpan=4>Kiper's First-Round Projection</TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=top ="col">
<TD>No.</TD>
<TD>Team</TD>
<TD>Player</TD>
<TD>School</TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=top ="evenrow">
<TD>1</TD>
<TD>Miami Dolphins</TD>
<TD>Jake Long, OT</TD>
<TD>Michigan</TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=top ="evenrow">
<TD>2</TD>
<TD>St. Louis Rams</TD>
<TD>Chris Long, DE</TD>
<TD>Virginia</TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=top ="evenrow">
<TD>3</TD>
<TD>Atlanta Falcons</TD>
<TD>Glenn Dorsey, DT</TD>
<TD>LSU</TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=top ="evenrow">
<TD>4</TD>
<TD>Oakland Raiders</TD>
<TD>*Darren McFadden</A>, RB</TD>
<TD>Arkansas</TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=top ="evenrow">
<TD>5</TD>
<TD>Kansas City Chiefs</TD>
<TD>*Branden Albert, OT/G</TD>
<TD>Virginia</TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=top ="evenrow">
<TD>6</TD>
<TD>New York Jets</TD>
<TD>*Vernon Gholston, DE</TD>
<TD>Ohio St.</TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=top ="evenrow">
<TD>7</TD>
<TD>New England Patriots (from SF)</TD>
<TD>*Aqib Talib, CB</TD>
<TD>Kansas</TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=top ="evenrow">
<TD>8</TD>
<TD>Baltimore Ravens</TD>
<TD>Matt Ryan, QB</TD>
<TD>Boston College</TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=top ="evenrow">
<TD>9</TD>
<TD>Cincinnati Bengals</TD>
<TD>Sedrick Ellis, DT</TD>
<TD>USC</TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=top ="evenrow">
<TD>10</TD>
<TD>New Orleans Saints</TD>
<TD>Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, CB</TD>
<TD>Tennessee St.</TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=top ="evenrow">
<TD>11</TD>
<TD>Buffalo Bills</TD>
<TD>*Derrick Harvey, DE</TD>
<TD>Florida</TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=top ="evenrow">
<TD>12</TD>
<TD>Denver Broncos</TD>
<TD>Keith Rivers, LB</TD>
<TD>USC</TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=top ="evenrow">
<TD>13</TD>
<TD>Carolina Panthers</TD>
<TD>*Ryan Clady, OT</TD>
<TD>Boise St.</TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=top ="evenrow">
<TD>14</TD>
<TD>Chicago Bears</TD>
<TD>Chris Williams, OT</TD>
<TD>Vanderbilt</TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=top ="evenrow">
<TD>15</TD>
<TD>Detroit Lions</TD>
<TD>*Rashard Mendenhall</A>, RB</TD>
<TD>Illinois</TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=top ="evenrow">
<TD>16</TD>
<TD>Arizona Cardinals</TD>
<TD>Leodis McKelvin, CB</TD>
<TD>Troy</TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=top ="evenrow">
<TD>17</TD>
<TD>Minnesota Vikings</TD>
<TD>*Phillip Merling, DE</TD>
<TD>Clemson</TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=top ="evenrow">
<TD>18</TD>
<TD>Houston Texans</TD>
<TD>*Jonathan Stewart</A>, RB</TD>
<TD>Oregon</TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=top ="evenrow">
<TD>19</TD>
<TD>Philadelphia Eagles</TD>
<TD>Jeff Otah, OT</TD>
<TD>Pittsburgh</TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=top ="evenrow">
<TD>20</TD>
<TD>Tampa Bay Buccaneers</TD>
<TD>Mike Jenkins, CB</TD>
<TD>South Florida</TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=top ="evenrow">
<TD>21</TD>
<TD>Washington Redskins</TD>
<TD>*Devin Thomas, WR</TD>
<TD>Michigan St.</TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=top ="evenrow">
<TD>22</TD>
<TD>Dallas Cowboys (from CLE)</TD>
<TD>*Felix Jones</A>, RB</TD>
<TD>Arkansas</TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=top ="evenrow">
<TD>23</TD>
<TD>Pittsburgh Steelers</TD>
<TD>Kentwan Balmer, DT</TD>
<TD>North Carolina</TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=top ="evenrow">
<TD>24</TD>
<TD>Tennessee Titans</TD>
<TD>*DeSean Jackson</A>, WR</TD>
<TD>California</TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=top ="evenrow">
<TD>25</TD>
<TD>Seattle Seahawks</TD>
<TD>Dustin Keller, TE</TD>
<TD>Purdue</TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=top ="evenrow">
<TD>26</TD>
<TD>Jacksonville Jaguars</TD>
<TD>Lawrence Jackson, DE</TD>
<TD>USC</TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=top ="evenrow">
<TD>27</TD>
<TD>San Diego Chargers</TD>
<TD>Gosder Cherilus, OT</TD>
<TD>Boston College</TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=top ="evenrow">
<TD>28</TD>
<TD>Dallas Cowboys</TD>
<TD>*Justin King, CB</TD>
<TD>Penn St.</TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=top ="evenrow">
<TD>29</TD>
<TD>San Francisco 49ers (from IND)</TD>
<TD>*Jerod Mayo, LB</TD>
<TD>Tennessee</TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=top ="evenrow">
<TD>30</TD>
<TD>Green Bay Packers</TD>
<TD>*Brandon Flowers, CB</TD>
<TD>Virginia Tech</TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=top ="evenrow">
<TD>31</TD>
<TD>New England Patriots</TD>
<TD>Forfeited pick</TD>
<TD></TD></TR>
<TR vAlign=top ="evenrow">
<TD>32</TD>
<TD>New York Giants</TD>
<TD>Tyrell Johnson, S</TD>
<TD>Arkansas St.</TD></TR></T></T></TABLE>Edited by: Don Wassall
reclaimsocal
Guru
Realistically the first round locks who are white are:
Chris Long DE Virginia
Matt Ryan QB Boston College
Jake Long OT Michigan
Potential first rounders who are white:
Dan Connor LB Penn State
Brian Brohm QB Louisville
Long Shot first rounders who are white:
Jordy Nelson WR Kansas State
Tom Zbikowski S Notre Dame
Sam Baker OT USC
I don't see any chance at anyone else making it into the first round unless some team trades up into the end of the first round for Flacco or Henne, which I think is highly unlikely at this point. Nelson is the only White who really has momentum going in the right direction. I'd say he is a lock to be taken in the 2nd if not at the end of the 1st. Baker has been sliding of late and went from a top 15 prospect at the end of the season to a second rounder. There are always guys like this that end up being called steals later on in their careers because clearly his on field production was right up there with the top guys, but for whatever reason his workouts were considered lacking. Zbikowski is a guy who doesn't grade out as a first rounder, but I could see someone grabbing him late in the first if they really like him. I don't think him being taken in the back end of the first would surprise anyone. Steltz just hasn't had the momentum needed to get him into the first and Carlson is probably the only other white who possibly could have gone, but he needed to run better.
Chris Long DE Virginia
Matt Ryan QB Boston College
Jake Long OT Michigan
Potential first rounders who are white:
Dan Connor LB Penn State
Brian Brohm QB Louisville
Long Shot first rounders who are white:
Jordy Nelson WR Kansas State
Tom Zbikowski S Notre Dame
Sam Baker OT USC
I don't see any chance at anyone else making it into the first round unless some team trades up into the end of the first round for Flacco or Henne, which I think is highly unlikely at this point. Nelson is the only White who really has momentum going in the right direction. I'd say he is a lock to be taken in the 2nd if not at the end of the 1st. Baker has been sliding of late and went from a top 15 prospect at the end of the season to a second rounder. There are always guys like this that end up being called steals later on in their careers because clearly his on field production was right up there with the top guys, but for whatever reason his workouts were considered lacking. Zbikowski is a guy who doesn't grade out as a first rounder, but I could see someone grabbing him late in the first if they really like him. I don't think him being taken in the back end of the first would surprise anyone. Steltz just hasn't had the momentum needed to get him into the first and Carlson is probably the only other white who possibly could have gone, but he needed to run better.
Deadlift
Hall of Famer
Sure, Dan Connor might go in Barrett Ruud "territory" -- which is very early 2nd Round.
The first day of the Draft will be dark as usual, but Kiper's mock drafts are usually quite off the mark. I don't think this draft will be as bad as the 2002 Draft.
It will be interesting to see if OT Gosder Cherilus is a 1st or 2nd Round pick. He reminds me of overrated Marcus McNeil.
Jake Long "shouldn't" be the only White O-Lineman taken in the 1st Round, but regardless of that outcome, some teams are going to get very good Whites in the 2nd through 6th Rounds. A couple of White QB's should also be taken in the 2nd Round, but we'll see.
I didn't follow every detail of some recent Draft classes, but you can't get much worse than the first day of the 2002 Draft.
The first day of the Draft will be dark as usual, but Kiper's mock drafts are usually quite off the mark. I don't think this draft will be as bad as the 2002 Draft.
It will be interesting to see if OT Gosder Cherilus is a 1st or 2nd Round pick. He reminds me of overrated Marcus McNeil.
Jake Long "shouldn't" be the only White O-Lineman taken in the 1st Round, but regardless of that outcome, some teams are going to get very good Whites in the 2nd through 6th Rounds. A couple of White QB's should also be taken in the 2nd Round, but we'll see.
I didn't follow every detail of some recent Draft classes, but you can't get much worse than the first day of the 2002 Draft.
Deadlift
Hall of Famer
Regarding the '02 Draft, I see only "9" Whites drafted in the first two rounds. That "combined" 2 Round "total" has to be among the lowest, if not the lowest number (of Whites) to be taken at the completion of the 2nd Round, EVER.
1st
David Carr
Joey Harrington
Jeremy Shockey
Marc Colombo
Patrick Ramsey
2nd
OT Mike Pearson
TE Doug Jolley
Sfty Jon McGraw
DE Ryan Denney
Check it out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_NFL_Draft
Either you see something amiss or you don't....
1st
David Carr
Joey Harrington
Jeremy Shockey
Marc Colombo
Patrick Ramsey
2nd
OT Mike Pearson
TE Doug Jolley
Sfty Jon McGraw
DE Ryan Denney
Check it out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_NFL_Draft
Either you see something amiss or you don't....
Deadlift
Hall of Famer
LB Dan Connor
TE Gary Barnidge
DT Nick Hayden
Not bad....
TE Gary Barnidge
DT Nick Hayden
Not bad....
Thrashen
Hall of Famer
Former Bengals LB Odell Thurman, recently signed by the Panthers, has been suspended yet again for drug use. Let me be the first to say "HAHAHA."
Looks like my fellow PSU alums, Dan Connor and Tim Shaw, may have a better chance at a starting spot in the coming seasons. Thurman is a typical NFL thug, hopefully we never hear about this bum again after this most recent suspension.
Looks like my fellow PSU alums, Dan Connor and Tim Shaw, may have a better chance at a starting spot in the coming seasons. Thurman is a typical NFL thug, hopefully we never hear about this bum again after this most recent suspension.
What a complete and total loser Thurman is. I was reading a fantasy site yesterday and the owner was wailing over the recent hit and run involving Marshawn Lynch's vehicle. "But I just interviewed Marshawn as the cover story for this year's fantasy magazine and I read people well and I can assure you that after spending an hour with Marshawn he would never do anything like that."
Idiot, anyone, even the most hardcore of criminals, can sit for an hour and be cordial and display their "charisma" and "room brightening smile."Of courseit takes far less than an hour, usually about a minute or two, for whites to become hopelessly smitten with blacks.
Idiot, anyone, even the most hardcore of criminals, can sit for an hour and be cordial and display their "charisma" and "room brightening smile."Of courseit takes far less than an hour, usually about a minute or two, for whites to become hopelessly smitten with blacks.
devans
Mentor
Why bother with criminal investigations and a trials. We could just get this guy to sit in a room and chat to suspects for an hour and then announce his verdict.
Thrashen
Hall of Famer
"Why bother with criminal investigations and a trials. We could just get this guy to sit in a room and chat to suspects for an hour and then announce his verdict."
Honestly, that dude needs to get some pride and some brain cells.