Other European Leagues: 2013-2014

[Jack Lambert]

I thought I'd get a thread started for La Liga, the Bundesliga, Serie A, Ligue 1, and the rest of the non EPL Euro Leagues.

Here are a few ratios from Germany over the weekend:

Borussia Dortmund 2, TSV Eintracht 1

Dortmund
Started:9 whites(5 Germans,) 1 black, 1 Turk
Finished: 10 whites(8 Germans), 1 Turk

TSV Eintracht
Started: 9 whites,(7 Germans), 1 black, 1 Arab
Finished: 9 whites(6 Germans) 1 black, 1 Arab


Bayern Munich 1, Eintracht Frankfurt 0

Bayern Munich
Started: 7 whites (5 Germans), 1 Albanian, 3 blacks
Finished: 7 whites (3 Germans), 4 blacks (including the "Spanish" Brazilian Thiago...)

Eintracht Frankfurt
Started: 8 whites (7 Germans), 1 half-Asian, 1 black, 1 Asian
Finished: 9 whites, (7 Germans), 1 half-Asan, 1 black


Stuttgart 0, Bayer Leverkusen 1

Stuttgart
Started: 7 whites (4 Germans) 3 blacks, 1 Asian
Finished: 8 whites (5 Germans) 3 blacks

Leverkusen
Started: 8 whites, (6 Germans), 1 black, 1 Asian, 1 Turk
Finished: 9 whites, (7 Germans), 1 black, 1 Turk


VfL Wolfsburg 4, Schalke 04 0

Wolfsburg
Started: 7 whites (2 Germans), 3 blacks, 1 Asian
Finished: 8 whites ( 4 Germans), 2 blacks, 1 Asian

Schalke
Started: 7 whites, (5 Germans), 3 blacks, 1 Asian
Finished: 8 whites, (5 Germans) 2 blacks, 1 Asian


I'll try and finish the rest of the Bundesliga tomorrow. If anybody wants to help keep track of another Euro league, feel free too!

Edit: Never mind, I was bored, so I finished the rest of the matches from the weekend tonight:

SC Freiburg 1, 1.FSV Mainz 2

Freiburg
Started: 8 whites (7 Germans), 3 blacks
Finished: 8 whites (8 Germans) 2 blacks

FSV Mainz
Started: 9 whites (4 Germans), 2 Asians
Finished: 7 whites (4 Germans), 2 Asians, 1 black, 1 Turk

Hamburg SV 1, TSG Hoffenheim 5

Hamburg
Started: 8 whites (6 Germans), 2 Turks, 1 black
Finished: 8 whites (5 Germans), 2 blacks, 1 Turk

Hoffenheim
Started: 7 whites (2 Germans), 3 blacks, 1 Morrocan
Finished: 8 whites, (4 Germans), 2 blacks, 1 Morrocan

Borussia Monchengladbach 3, Hannover 96 0

Gladbach
Started: 8 whites (5 Germans) 1 mestizo, 1 black, 1 Albanian
Finished: 10 whites, (4 Germans) 1 black

Hannover
Started: 7 whites (4 Germans), 3 blacks, 1 Asian
Finished: 7 whites(4 Germans) 2 blacks, 1 Asian, 1 Tunisian

Werder Bremen 1, FC Augsburg 0

Bremen
Started: 6 whites (3 Germans), 4 blacks, 1 Turk
Finished: 7 whites (4 Germans), 3 blacks, 1 Turk

Augsburg
Started: 9 whites (5 Germans), 1 Arab, 1 Turk
Finished: 9 whites (7 Germans), 1 Arab, 1 mestizo

FC Nurnberg 2 Hertha Berlin 2

Nurnberg
Started: 9 whites (5 Germans), 1 Turk, 1 Asian
Finished: 8 whites(5 Germans), 1 black, 1 Turk, 1 Asian

Hertha
Started: 7 whites (6 Germans), 2 half-Tunisians, 1 black, 1 Asian
Finished: 6 whites (5 Germans), 1 half-Tunisian, 3 blacks, 1 Asian

 

[Jack Lambert]

Summary of Round

198 Starters

White Starters: 139(70%) - Germans: 88 (44%)

Non-whites: 59 (30%) – if somebody wants a further breakdown to blacks/Turks etc. I’d be happy to do that.


As you can see, the Bundesliga is a bit whiter than the EPL, (going of Rebajlo's last Premier League breakdown, dating to last season):

SUMMARY OF ROUND:

220 starters

Whites: 138 (62.727 %) - Englishmen: 50 (22.727 %)

Blacks: 68 (30.909 %) - "English" blacks: 23 (10.454 %)

Other non-Whites: 14 (6.363 %)

The big difference between the leagues is that German players still make up 44% of all Bundesliga players, a great percentage when compared to the Englishmen in the EPL. In fact, it's nearly double.

I would love to see a breakdown of the Spanish or French leagues, but I don't have time this year. I'm going to try and keep track of the Bundesliga as best I can, although even if I can't get every team/match broken down in a week, I will try and do the top 4-5 teams or so.

 

[Rebajlo]

Jack Lambert -

Sterling work, mate :thumb:

Freiburg
Started: 8 whites (7 Germans), 3 blacks
Finished: 9 whites*(8 Germans) 2 blacks *- I counted a Swiss Macedonian as white

Freiburg's Admir Mehmedi may have been born in Macedonia, but he's an Albanian... :icon_wink:

 

[Jack Lambert]

Jack Lambert -

Sterling work, mate :thumb:



Freiburg's Admir Mehmedi may have been born in Macedonia, but he's an Albanian... :icon_wink:

Thanks for the kinds words, Rebajlo. I very much appreciate it.


And thanks for the correction as well; if you see any more, feel free to let me know.


I think my least favorite team this year may just be AC Milan. That wretched team stands for all that's wrong with Italy at the moment.

 

[frederic38]

great to see dortmund winning away thanks to Mkhitaryan with 2 goals, while aubameyang was on the bench

 

[frederic38]

barcelona was in a bad situation in the spanish league when it was 2-2 at home in injury time against sevilla

but the best player in the world took over in the last seconds of injury time and allowed barcelona to win:

[video=youtube_share;26wYvgVJL9E]http://youtu.be/26wYvgVJL9E[/video]

 

[Rebajlo]

A year ago I posted about how Barcelona's Cesc Fabregas contrived to have Sevilla's Chilean mestizo Gary Medel (who now plays for Cardiff City) sent off during an innocuous off the ball clash. At that point, Barcelona was 1-2 down but eventually won 3-2, with the winning goal coming in the third minute of stoppage time:

http://www.castefootball.us/forums/showthread.php/14623-Against-Modern-Football!?p=259493#post259493

Fast forward twelve months to this weekend. Barcelona is 1-0 up at home against Sevilla, who score a perfectly good equaliser on the 65 minute mark via defender Cala's header. So what happens? Why, the referee disallows the goal, of course. About ten minutes later, golden boy Messi scores for the media's favourite club and everything is running to script. But - can You believe it? - Sevilla has the hide to draw level, sticking in two goals in the final ten minutes, including a 90th minute equaliser. Well, we can't have anyone spoiling Barcelona's precious 100% start to the season after a mere four games can we now? So with a couple of seconds remaining in the fourth minute of injury time, the Catalan darlings grab the winner. Cue adoring ******* worldwide chanting "Barca! Barca!"

Meanwhile, over in Italy's Serie A Torino is 2-0 ahead at home against the assorted coons of Slivio "Botox" Berlusconi's AC Milan. With three minutes to go, the ugly eight-ball-headed Ghanaian Sulley Muntari scores for Milan - but that's obviously not enough, for Torino is still ahead by one goal. Can't have that, can we? The officials duly add seven minutes of extra time, and... (surprise! surprise!) Milan "win" a penalty, which is conveniently converted by none other than subhuman poster-boy Mario Balotelli...

I don't know why I even bother with football anymore...

 

[Matra2]

A year ago I posted about how Barcelona's Cesc Fabregas contrived to have Sevilla's Chilean mestizo Gary Medel (who now plays for Cardiff City) sent off during an innocuous off the ball clash. At that point, Barcelona was 1-2 down but eventually won 3-2, with the winning goal coming in the third minute of stoppage time:

http://www.castefootball.us/forums/showthread.php/14623-Against-Modern-Football!?p=259493#post259493

Fast forward twelve months to this weekend. Barcelona is 1-0 up at home against Sevilla, who score a perfectly good equaliser on the 65 minute mark via defender Cala's header. So what happens? Why, the referee disallows the goal, of course. About ten minutes later, golden boy Messi scores for the media's favourite club and everything is running to script. But - can You believe it? - Sevilla has the hide to draw level, sticking in two goals in the final ten minutes, including a 90th minute equaliser. Well, we can't have anyone spoiling Barcelona's precious 100% start to the season after a mere four games can we now? So with a couple of seconds remaining in the fourth minute of injury time, the Catalan darlings grab the winner. Cue adoring ******* worldwide chanting "Barca! Barca!"

Meanwhile, over in Italy's Serie A Torino is 2-0 ahead at home against the assorted coons of Slivio "Botox" Berlusconi's AC Milan. With three minutes to go, the ugly eight-ball-headed Ghanaian Sulley Muntari scores for Milan - but that's obviously not enough, for Torino is still ahead by one goal. Can't have that, can we? The officials duly add seven minutes of extra time, and... (surprise! surprise!) Milan "win" a penalty, which is conveniently converted by none other than subhuman poster-boy Mario Balotelli...

I don't know why I even bother with football anymore...

I saw the Sevilla match. A complete joke. I could live with the goal in the fourth minute as one could argue that time was wasted after the Sevilla equaliser but the disallowed goal was a complete joke. And did you see the Barcelona bench mocking the Sevilla bench? Classless. Spanish sports are all ripe with corruption. It wouldn't surprise me at all if Rafael Nadal has the same doctors associated with Spanish cycling.

As for Serie A I only check the results now to see how Torino and Hellas Verona are doing. Poor Torino.

 

[Matra2]

There's been a rumour floating around that despite his humble image Messi is a bully who demands that his teammates pass it to him more.:noidea:
I didn't think much of it until yesterday when Neymar gave up a chance to score and instead tried to pass it to Messi. The commentator said he was showing way too much deference to Messi.

 

[frederic38]

There's been a rumour floating around that despite his humble image Messi is a bully who demands that his teammates pass it to him more.:noidea:
I didn't think much of it until yesterday when Neymar gave up a chance to score and instead tried to pass it to Messi. The commentator said he was showing way too much deference to Messi.

messi is the best player in the world, and ofcourse the best player at barcelona
everybody on the team must adapt so that messi is in the best conditions
if a player doesn't accept that, he has to leave, like ibrahimowicz
ibrahimowicz was kicked out of barcelona because messi wasn't at his best when playing with ibrahimowicz
it's not messi who asks this, it's the club's staff, who are happy to have the best player in the world and want him to feel confortable

 

[frederic38]

A year ago I posted about how Barcelona's Cesc Fabregas contrived to have Sevilla's Chilean mestizo Gary Medel (who now plays for Cardiff City) sent off during an innocuous off the ball clash. At that point, Barcelona was 1-2 down but eventually won 3-2, with the winning goal coming in the third minute of stoppage time:

http://www.castefootball.us/forums/showthread.php/14623-Against-Modern-Football!?p=259493#post259493

Fast forward twelve months to this weekend. Barcelona is 1-0 up at home against Sevilla, who score a perfectly good equaliser on the 65 minute mark via defender Cala's header. So what happens? Why, the referee disallows the goal, of course. About ten minutes later, golden boy Messi scores for the media's favourite club and everything is running to script. But - can You believe it? - Sevilla has the hide to draw level, sticking in two goals in the final ten minutes, including a 90th minute equaliser. Well, we can't have anyone spoiling Barcelona's precious 100% start to the season after a mere four games can we now? So with a couple of seconds remaining in the fourth minute of injury time, the Catalan darlings grab the winner. Cue adoring ******* worldwide chanting "Barca! Barca!"

Meanwhile, over in Italy's Serie A Torino is 2-0 ahead at home against the assorted coons of Slivio "Botox" Berlusconi's AC Milan. With three minutes to go, the ugly eight-ball-headed Ghanaian Sulley Muntari scores for Milan - but that's obviously not enough, for Torino is still ahead by one goal. Can't have that, can we? The officials duly add seven minutes of extra time, and... (surprise! surprise!) Milan "win" a penalty, which is conveniently converted by none other than subhuman poster-boy Mario Balotelli...

I don't know why I even bother with football anymore...

the goal was refused for a foul on alves, but it doesn't really show with the camera angles
and the additional time announced by the 4th referee is the MINIMAL time that has to be played in injury time
if there is more time wasting, the referee has to add up to that announced time
the goal was scored 10 seconds after the 3 minutes of added time anyways
and since you can't stop the match when there is a goal scoring oportunity, the referee should have stopped the match before the 3 minutes of injuriy time to prevent this goal to be scored

like for the previous match (medel's red card you mentioned) i still side with barcelona

are we going to cry because a dirty header on a corner kick is refused for a foul? and then get mad because messi allows barcelona to get an unexpected win thanks to his unreal talent in the last seconds of the game?
if you want to see dirty goals, players headbutting eachothers, violent play, and no skill, then watch the premier league, or even better, the french second division because premier league is not what it used to be anymore with teams like manchester city or arsenal

 

[frederic38]

There's been a rumour floating around that despite his humble image Messi is a bully who demands that his teammates pass it to him more.:noidea:
I didn't think much of it until yesterday when Neymar gave up a chance to score and instead tried to pass it to Messi. The commentator said he was showing way too much deference to Messi.

if you listen to the media, messi is a dictator, he is doping too as any other spanish athlete (that's what french people say when they get mad because their black athlete got humiliated by a spanish athlete - yanick noah, the biggest pro-black propagandist in france, thinks like you)
cristiano ronaldo is a dirty diver, an attention whore and an homosexual
gareth bale is an overpaid clown who doesn't deserve to be the biggest transfert ever

these times are hard for the real talents of world football, 3 players who are 100% legit (not much family in the business, no racism issues to boost their career like balotelli and others, just local kids who happen to be talented)

 

[Rebajlo]

I saw the Sevilla match. A complete joke. I could live with the goal in the fourth minute as one could argue that time was wasted after the Sevilla equaliser but the disallowed goal was a complete joke. And did you see the Barcelona bench mocking the Sevilla bench? Classless.

At some undefined juncture in the past week I finally reached a tipping point of disillusionment with football which has prevented me from even bothering to embark upon my usual breakdown of Premier League matches. Taking my congenital cynicism into account that says quite a lot. Perhaps it occurred while I was examining the goal-scorers and line-ups of the mid-week European zone World Cup qualifiers? Maybe it struck me on Saturday night AEST as I checked the scores and saw that Manchester United had been awarded a penalty in first half injury time against Crystal Palace, who then played the rest of the match with ten men? Maybe it was the fact that the player who "won" the said penalty was Ashley Young? Could it have been that all three of Peterborough United's goals at Bristol City were scored by Negroes? Mayhap it was that two of those three goals fell to Peterborough United's record signing, the flat-nosed Britt Assombalonga? Or was it because The Posh started four blacks and had another four on the bench?

One thing, however, is certain: Sevilla's disallowed goal plus Barcelona's extra-time "winner" finally did it...

Just when I was beginning to calm down, I copped another figurative kick in the teeth when I checked the Polish scores this morning. Pogon Szczecin played out a 1-1 home draw with Lechia Gdansk, their equaliser coming in the final minute via no-name Jap Takafumi Akahoshi (who was signed from the Latvian FC Liepajas Metalurgs in 2011...). As a "bonus", Pogon had a second bloody Jap in the starting line-up (in addition to the de rigueur Negro, with two more blacks coming on in the second half). And what was the squash-ball-sized blowfly atop this monolithic pile of ****? Lechia also started a Jap (!!!) plus two African shoe-shine boys.

Spanish sports are all ripe with corruption. It wouldn't surprise me at all if Rafael Nadal has the same doctors associated with Spanish cycling.

Matra2 -

I don't wish to take this thread off topic but for the record, I'm of the opinion that Rafael Nadal is on some sort of PEDs. Such a view mightn't be too popular around here but it doesn't take a genius to draw the conclusion that if doping was so widespread among Spanish cyclists then it's odds on that other Spanish sportspeople were / are also involved. It's also no stretch of the imagination to draw another conclusion: that doping was / is inevitably present in the biggest-money and maximum-prestige sport of football. Several years ago, when the bean-spilling cyclist Jesus Manzano stated that "well known" Spanish footballers had visited doping mastermind Dr. Eufemiano Fuentes, things were hushed up post-haste...

like for the previous match (medel's red card you mentioned) i still side with barcelona

Frederic -

Good luck to You then...

 

[Europe]

As a "bonus", Pogon had a second bloody Jap in the starting line-up (in addition to the de rigueur Negro, with two more blacks coming on in the second half

).

I have been noticing more and more Japs and koreans. The only thing left is Eskimos.


There is now a woman golfer who is Asian, but is from New Zealand. The announcers were talking about a Kiwi being in the lead of the tourney and I thought great, but then they showed her. It's getting to be a joke.

 

[Matra2]

I have been noticing more and more Japs and koreans. The only thing left is Eskimos.

BTW you're not allowed to say Eskimo anymore - they are Inuit.

 

[frederic38]

japanese players in poland :icon_lol:

this is how they adapt to the cold:

[video=youtube_share;iTcQTyevQz4]http://youtu.be/iTcQTyevQz4[/video]

this was one of the first asian player to come to the french league
it was memorable

"this is how the chinese plays soccer":

http://9gag.com/gag/aNeAqjv?ref=fb.s

 

[Matra2]

I didn't see the match but Valencia lost 0-3 to Swansea in the Europa League. That's truly pathetic for what has more often than not been the #3 team in Spain. They've also lost 3 of their first 4 matches in La Liga.

 

[frederic38]

I didn't see the match but Valencia lost 0-3 to Swansea in the Europa League. That's truly pathetic for what has more often than not been the #3 team in Spain. They've also lost 3 of their first 4 matches in La Liga.

they have financial problems...malaga is also dead since UEFA excluded them from european competitions
they have lost all their best players and they were not replaced

 

[ThePhilosopher]

another factor for valencia's heavy defeat was the early red card,to the 'french(arab really)' adil rami,which wasn't really his fault if i'm honest,as he was left chasing the black bony who was one-on-one with the goalie.but,rami,instead of fouling bony from behind,should've let him go,as the keeper was in a good position.also,it was only 10 minutes into the game,a goal down while bad(if bony scored...a big if),was surely better than having to play 80 minutes with 10 men.And finally,blacks have a historically poor conversion rates in one-on-one situation.True,bony did score eventually,but it was more luck than anything.

 

[ThePhilosopher]

Really hilarious stuff.

 

[ThePhilosopher]

Bayern vs. Dortmund review.

Review by Michael Cox here:

http://anonym.to/?http://www.zonalm...d-proves-crucial-as-bayern-extend-their-lead/



Well,Bayern didn't need Ribery(who didn't play),who is right now one of the most overrated players in the world.

And Jerome Boateng was poor:

Dortmund did often win the ball on the left side of the pitch, however, particularly when Jerome Boateng played a forward pass. His distribution was poor, and often allowed Dortmund chances to break quickly.

Guardiola’s second change saw Thiago replacing Boateng, who had been one of Bayern’s poorer performers, particularly in possession.

Boateng is soon to be featured in the "black flops" thread.

 

[ThePhilosopher]

A Eulogy.

The 'El Clasico' is the biggest game of the footballing calender.To hell with the World Cup Final.

The 'El Clasico' has by far the vest 22 players you can squeeze onto a football pitch(Funnily enough not a black started yesterday!:wacko.

Yesterday,the 'El Clasico' was about one man.


No,not three time Ballon D'or winner Messi.


No,not current Ballon D'or holder Ronaldo.

No,not the most expensive player in the world,Bale.

No,not World cup winners Iniesta,Xavi or Alonso.

Not Neymar,who was voted the tournament’s best player,in this year's Confederations Cup.

And no,it most definitely wasn't Benzema.

Step forward,Angel Di Maria.

He was,by far,the most dangerous player on the pitch.

He kept putting dribble after dribble,went past Catalan after Catalan,put cross after cross,only for Benzema to miss.

The Chances he created:

(would've been four assists if not for Benzema)

Excellent FORWARD passes:

And look at the following take-on sheet:

...that is brilliant!

Maradona,Puskas,Nedved,George Best...would be proud of those dribbles in a "El Clasico" that too!

______________________________
Carlo Ancelotti deserves a lot of credit for the above though.

First he shifted Real from a 4-2-3-1 to 4-3-3 and Di Maria has thrived in the 'left shuttling midfielder' role,as you can see.

Suddenly Argentina look a scary prospect in the World Cup....Messi,Aguero,Di Maria,Higuain will all probably be in the same starting eleven.


(Remember to right click and select 'view image' to view them properly.)

 

[frederic38]

The 'El Clasico' is the biggest game of the footballing calender.To hell with the World Cup Final.

The 'El Clasico' has by far the vest 22 players you can squeeze onto a football pitch(Funnily enough not a black started yesterday!:wacko.

Yesterday,the 'El Clasico' was about one man.


No,not three time Ballon D'or winner Messi.


No,not current Ballon D'or holder Ronaldo.

No,not the most expensive player in the world,Bale.

No,not World cup winners Iniesta,Xavi or Alonso.

Not Neymar,who was voted the tournament’s best player,in this year's Confederations Cup.

And no,it most definitely wasn't Benzema.

Step forward,Angel Di Maria.

He was,by far,the most dangerous player on the pitch.

He kept putting dribble after dribble,went past Catalan after Catalan,put cross after cross,only for Benzema to miss.

The Chances he created:

(would've been four assists if not for Benzema)

Excellent FORWARD passes:

And look at the following take-on sheet:

...that is brilliant!

Maradona,Puskas,Nedved,George Best...would be proud of those dribbles in a "El Clasico" that too!

______________________________
Carlo Ancelotti deserves a lot of credit for the above though.

First he shifted Real from a 4-2-3-1 to 4-3-3 and Di Maria has thrived in the 'left shuttling midfielder' role,as you can see.

Suddenly Argentina look a scary prospect in the World Cup....Messi,Aguero,Di Maria,Higuain will all probably be in the same starting eleven.


(Remember to right click and select 'view image' to view them properly.)

finally a left footed player who plays on the left wing, and can cross because of this

he also does a lot of defensive work
something that not many players on this team do
so he's vital for the team
the delusional arab fans said that real should have sold dimaria instead of ozil, but now we can clearly see that it was the good thing to do
now zidane has a major role on the bench :icon_rolleyes: so they don't need as many arab players

 

[ThePhilosopher]

The Atletico Madrid miracle goes on...they beat a resilient Athletic Bilbao yesterday.

Their best player,Koke,won them the game yesterday:

The media still says that Diego Costa is their best player only because they perceive him as a 'non-white'.I think he's their second best player.

 

[frederic38]

The Atletico Madrid miracle goes on...they beat a resilient Athletic Bilbao yesterday.

Their best player,Koke,won them the game yesterday:

The media still says that Diego Costa is their best player only because they perceive him as a 'non-white'.I think he's their second best player.

one of their strenghts is a good defense
yes, a good defense in spain, who would have thought :icon_grin:
a belgian goalkeeper (white), an uruguayan (white) and brazilian (mixed) center half duo, spanish and brazilian (white) fullbacks