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Nick Goings is the RB for the Carolina Panthers...Is this dude white?...They said with Deshaun Foster getting hurt that this dude was going to start...I thought I heard somebody say he's not white but dude looks white to me...They said he was a FB converted to RB....
 
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He might be half white but his skin has a brown tint to it so I would say he is black for now.
 

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i like how he runs, but as far as his skin color goes i have no clue.. he looks more white than black for me
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He's close enough for me to root for this week!
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Goingskicked butt last season afterCarolina's "full-blooded" RBs were hurt. I had him on my fantasy team and he helped lead me to the league championship. But by the way races are defined and categorized in the U.S., there's no way he can be considered white. If he was white he wouldn't be even the emergency tailback thanks to the insane rules of the caste system.
 

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He can thank his Grandpa for making it to 3rd on the depth chart. Amazing what a little meaningless melanin can do for a players career in the NFL.
 

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Well I hope the mulatto does well. However, Brad Hoover can and
did just as well when given the ball. Brad can run hard and hit
holes (thats why he is the fullback) yet he has speed to turn the
corners. Sooo I hope Goings and Brad split some time in the game.
 
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I accept that Mulattos are considered Black because that's the way society (and the castesystem) treats them but as far I'm concerned a Quadroon (I looked it up) like Goings has to be considered white by any reasonable standard. Not that race standards have ever been reasonable, mind you.

Are white genes so worthless that even a trace of black blood leaves a man tainted?
 

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Good point Waki Mumba. I believe that white genes enhance ,not
detract from other races. In actuality, many who think themselves
to be " pure" in race are an amalgom of ethnicities. That does
not negate the dominance of one gene over the other, unless the
majority of blood can be traced to caucasian, black or hispanic.
In that instance, many traits do seem to rise to the surface which are
associated to a specific color. That being said, Nick Goings may
posses some unique qualities not found in an all black or all white
running back. And this site is not about arguing racial
superiority, it is about the blatant discrimination againts whites that
the NFL, college and other areas of society are cultivating.
 

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Ta Waki Mumba said:
Are white genes so worthless that even a trace of black blood leaves a man tainted?


This definition goes back to the founding days of America, and is indeed based on the idea that even a trace of black blood leaves a white man tainted.It had nothing to do with white genes being worthless, just the opposite.


It hassurvived as the working definition throughout the "civil rights" era because it benefits black elites -- look at how many blacks in leadership positions in politics and business are light-skinned. They rise to the top faster because on average that hated white blood gives them advantages over their darker kindred. Find that trace of black blood in your family tree and you are instantly qualified for all kinds of affirmative action, scholarships, and other favors and gifts that whites can't get.Edited by: Don Wassall
 

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Good points Don. That is just the way it is. I would consider myself at least somewhat black if I had ANY ancestor within the last 200 or so years who was black. It's the same way with the Native American blood I have in me, it was several generations ago, but it's a measurable amount. Edited by: Colonel_Reb
 

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Colonel_Reb said:
Good points Don. That is just the way it is. I would consider myself at least somewhat black if I had ANY ancestor within the last 200 or so years who was black. It's the same way with the Native American blood I have in me, it was several generations ago, but it's a measurable amount.


Col. I'm reminded of a conversation I had with a dog breeder a few years ago. We had been discussing pure breds and mongrels and she told me something I had forgotten about until I read your post. I have no idea if what she said was true or not . She said that if you were to take a golden retriever ( for example) and mate it with a black lab then take the offspring and mate it with another golden and once again mate the offspring with a golden, that after a period of time all genetic traces of the black lab will be entirely eliminated. She also said the same thing was true in humans and can be demonstrated in only four of five generations.


I had assumed that each succeeding generation would carry a percentage such as 1/2, 1/4 /, 1/8 , 1/16 andso forth unto perpetuity.Does anyone here have any scientific knowledge pertaining to this subject?
 

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Renaissance Man said:
Good point Waki Mumba.  I believe that white genes enhance ,not
detract from other races.  In actuality, many who think themselves
to be " pure" in race are an amalgom of ethnicities.  That does
not negate the dominance of one gene over the other, unless the
majority of blood can be traced to caucasian, black or hispanic.  
In that instance, many traits do seem to rise to the surface which are
associated to a specific color.  That being said, Nick Goings may
posses some unique qualities not found in an all black or all white
running back.  And this site is not about  arguing racial
superiority, it is about the blatant discrimination againts whites that
the NFL, college and other areas of society are cultivating.

very good post, rm
 

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Bart said:
Colonel_Reb said:
Good points Don. That is just the way it is. I would consider myself at least somewhat black if I had ANY ancestor within the last 200 or so years who was black. It's the same way with the Native American blood I have in me, it was several generations ago, but it's a measurable amount.


Col. I'm reminded of a conversation I had with a dog breeder a few years ago. We had been discussing pure breds and mongrels and she told me something I had forgotten about until I read your post. I have no idea if what she said was true or not . She said that if you were to take a golden retriever ( for example) and mate it with a black lab then take the offspring and mate it with another golden and once again mate the offspring with a golden, that after a period of time all genetic traces of the black lab will be entirely eliminated. She also said the same thing was true in humans and can be demonstrated in only four of five generations.


I had assumed that each succeeding generation would carry a percentage such as 1/2, 1/4 /, 1/8 , 1/16 and so forth unto perpetuity. Does anyone here have any scientific knowledge pertaining to this subject?<!-- Message ''"" -->
From what I know from horse racing if you back to the great-great grandfather that is as far back you can for direct genetic attributes. I think it's the same for humans. You will see that with people with traces of another racial/ethnic group. Ie all of their siblings are pale and one is swarthy looking or partially East Asian looking.
 
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You better believe Nick Goings is aware of how crucial being black is when it comes to making it in the NFL.

His head is shaved in nearly all his pictures, or he is wearing a baseball cap. I suspect it has something to do with the fact that being 75% white means he likely has "real hair" to hide, instead of typical black "fuzz".Edited by: TorontoArgos
 

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white is right said:
Bart said:
Colonel_Reb said:
Good points Don. That is just the way it is. I would consider myself at least somewhat black if I had ANY ancestor within the last 200 or so years who was black. It's the same way with the Native American blood I have in me, it was several generations ago, but it's a measurable amount.



Col. I'm reminded of a conversation I had with a dog breeder a few years ago. We had been discussing pure breds and mongrels and she told me something I had forgotten about until I read your post. I have no idea if what she said was true or not . She said that if you were to take a golden retriever ( for example) and mate it with a black lab then take the offspring and mate it with another golden and once again mate the offspring with a golden, that after a period of time all genetic traces of the black lab will be entirely eliminated. She also said the same thing was true in humans and can be demonstrated in only four of five generations.



I had assumed that each succeeding generation would carry a percentage such as 1/2, 1/4 /, 1/8 , 1/16 and so forth unto perpetuity. Does anyone here have any scientific knowledge pertaining to this subject?


<!-- Message ''"" -->
From what I know from horse racing if you back to the great-great grandfather that is as far back you can for direct genetic attributes. I think it's the same for humans. You will see that with people with traces of another racial/ethnic group. Ie all of their siblings are pale and one is swarthy looking or partially East Asian looking.


Makes sense to me. I sure don't look anything at all like a Cherokee or Choctaw. My paternalgrandfather looked a little Cherokee, but he was stillfour generationsout fromour Cherokee ancestor.
 

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Justin Fargas is another Nick Goings type example. I think Fargas might be a quarter or an eight black. Does anyone know for sure?
 
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ToughJ.Riggins said:
Justin Fargas is another Nick Goings type example. I think Fargas might be a quarter or an eight black. Does anyone know for sure?
I believe Fargas has a hispanic Black father, and a white mother.
 

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Sounds like Michigan gave him the Caste treatment.
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He started there as a running back before switching to safety in the middle of the 2000 season.

Fargas got a shot with the Wolverines but got some unlucky breaks, he didn't do much in his first couple of games and then was injured a couple of times before he could prove himself. While injured the guy in his place I think it was Chris Perry ran well and that was it. He switched to safety just to get some playing time and then got homesick and moved back to California where he played at USC and showed his stuff. He didn't get the caste-treatment at UM; everyone thought of him as black as his father was Huggy Bear from Starsky and Hutch.
 

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Just thought to come back to this thread as I read an article about the best white running backs of the last twenty years. Nick Goings was in the list (no Justin Fargas) as to most observers they would think him white. Only upon very close inspection could one come to a different conclusion. Also, seeing as how after his very good season (800 yards rushing when forced into action) he went right back to minimal carries lends weight to the notion he was thought of as white by the coaches. Not like a Mike Tolbert who consistently got more carries as fullback.

I would count Nick Goings as white, similar to how safety Erik Harris (Raiders) was essentially white and treated as such by the coaches and media, ie: given a very short leash.
 
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