Kyle Eckel

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Given that new head coach Nick Saban wants his Miami roster to resemble that of his LSU teams, the obvious question is why?

Well, with your premier running back a pothead who already quit once on his team, maybe he's thinking it would be a good idea to actually have someone responsible with a good attitude at the position, even if it has to be a lowly white running back.

Backup only, of course.
 

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Miami has got to be one of the worst teams that he could have went to.They will never give him even half a chance.He was kicking ass for the Patriots.I still don't get it.The Dolphins drafted a running back in the first round,they have R.Williams,T.Minor and a few others.I just don't see Eckel doing anything except for gettting splinters in his butt from wasting away on the bench.I'm pissed off!
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The Patriots seemed like such a good fit for him for so many reasons. The caste system is really hard to figure out sometimes.
 

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I was just at the Dolphins website and just like I thought,they have Eckel listed as a fullback.It's funny how he was a running back in New England & did good.He gets cut and magically turns back into a fullback that probably won't play much if at all.I'm shocked that they even wanted him because of the way they cut Forsey,Farmer & others.The Dolphins haven't been white friendly since the 70's.
 

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No the Dolphins haven't been White Friendly since the 70's and they have not won the Super Bowl since 1973!!!That team had Larry Csonka, Jim Kiick, Bob Griese, Nick Buoniconti, etc. Amazing when they were White they won!!By the way only 3 jerseys have been retired by the Dolphins- Griese[12]-Marino[13] and Csonka[39].Imagine winning the Super Bowl with two White running backs {Kiick and Csonka]!!!!
 

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Kyle Eckel is on reserve according to the
website. The site prints a slash next to reserve and says
military. I think that is why the Patriots released him.
They needed room for another player if Eckel was to serve active
duty. With the pre-season Eckel has had, he is sure to have some
success in football.

The Dolphins had Brock Forsey and Wes Welker on
their roster last year. Welker is a receiver now, so they have no
white running backs.


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Whatever happen to Eckel? I know the Dolphins picked him up after he was cut by New England last year, but he wasn't in camp with them this year. Is he totally out of football or did he have some type of military commitment to fulfill?
 

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here's an update linked by DraftDaddy on what one of our favorite players, Kyle Eckel, is going through.
Ensign not giving up NFL dream</font>
Navy, not pro football, awaits most Midshipmen
By Michael Rothstein
The Journal Gazette
Friday, Oct. 27, 2006

On Monday mornings, co-workers approach his desk in Norfolk, Va. It'd be idle chatter in most offices, cooler chatter among guys about college and NFL games from the weekend.

But Kyle Eckel's desk garners more attention. When the conversation comes up, it becomes a reminder of his dual reality.

Two years ago, Eckel stood out at Navy, a bruising fullback who helped in the resurgence of the Midshipmen and had reasonable buzz about playing in the National Football League.

His everyday reality is this: sitting behind his desk doing work and wondering, waiting, for his shot.

"It's always in the back of my mind," Eckel said. "Staying in shape and working out and hopefully being prepared that when the time is called, I'll be ready."

Premier recruits forgo military academies because of postgraduation military requirements that leave little option to go pro.

Players go to serve their country, not their NFL possibilities.

Coaches at Army, Navy and Air Force have smaller pools of players to work from. With stringent academic guidelines, the academies must find players with exceptional grades and a desire to serve and protect something much more important than a quarterback.

"When you are aspiring to be a pro football player from a young age, you're not going to go to a school with a military obligation," New York Giants general manager Ernie Accorsi said.

Eckel, 24, is an ensign in his second year of the postgraduation military commitment. If he had gone to another school, he could be pulling an NFL paycheck, living the life many football players imagine.

Instead, he sits on the Miami Dolphins roster on the military leave list, a distinction that could disappear in May when he finishes two years of his five-year commitment and can apply to the secretary of the Navy for an appeal that would push the rest of his commitment to the Navy Reserve.

He used leave time to attend training camp with the New England Patriots in 2005 but knew it wouldn't last. When camp ended, he went from NFL player to Naval officer.

"It was bittersweet," Eckel said. "It was your dream and it was put on hold, but I understood going in the Naval Academy that it was the way things would have to happen."

When a prospect heads to a service academy, education and the military are the focus - not the NFL or the NBA or the PGA Tour.

"Most of the kids, when they come here, are interested in being commissioned officers," Navy athletic director Chet Gladchuk said. "Most athletes at a civilian school, from Notre Dame to FSU to Syracuse, everyone, if they admit it or not, has aspirations to be an NFL player.

"The Naval Academy and Army and Air Force, our mentality is to commission officers to serve our country."

At one time, Army and Navy were attractive options to many of the nation's top players. World War II was going on and the NFL was still in its infancy. Players such as Doc Blanchard and Glenn Davis and Joe Bellino saw the opportunity for a better degree and more lucrative options in the military and business worlds than professional football.

But as the league became more popular, salaries skyrocketed and playing football without military duty became the more attractive option.

"That just kind of changed in the late '60s and '70s," Navy coach Paul Johnson said. "You talk to the guys who played in the NFL in the '60s, they didn't make any money, most of them. It wasn't as big a deal."

But as the NFL grew, the pool of prospective service academy players shrunk. Top academic and athletic prospects would choose Notre Dame, which plays all three service academies over the next month, or Stanford or Texas because of the ability to reach the NFL faster.

Notre Dame senior safety Tom Zbikowski considered Navy. His family - like many of the players at the service academies - had a military background. But the postgraduation commitment concerned the Irish defensive captain and he ended up in South Bend instead of Annapolis, Md.

"I don't want to say it's one of the downfalls, but it is one of the things I took into consideration," Zbikowski said. "I was looking more at the positives of what it would do and set me up for the future but you do take into consideration the numbers."

Currently, there are more rookies from Notre Dame on New England's roster (three) than service academy players on all the NFL rosters combined (two). Bryce Fisher, a defensive end from Air Force, starts for Seattle, and Mike Wahle, a guard from Navy, plays for Carolina.

"What we get in the service academies are kids who are pretty much committed to a future of serving in the service, so it isn't as high of a priority to them," said Army coach Bobby Ross, who coached at Georgia Tech and in the NFL. "The fact of the situation of the high-profile guys and blue chippers don't want to consider the military in any shape or form."

This isn't a fault. It just means the service academies recruit prospects with military backgrounds or kids who want to play Division I football and offers were limited.

Lightly recruited out of high school, Eckel went to Navy to play college football, not to go to the NFL. He is the rare exception of the player who developed enough to become a pro prospect. But most academy players have no aspirations of it. If they do, they go somewhere else.

"There are going to be players," Accorsi said. "They are going to have prospects. They have good coaches.

"A lot of good athletes, with great coaches, they develop players and make them better."

Johnson helped mold Eckel into an officer and a football man. He works out, using his regimen from the academy, to keep himself in shape.

Every week, an e-mail comes from an old classmate or friend, asking about his football future. There is total support because the Navy wants to see another one of its guys make it there, too.

"Being with the Patriots for a little while and seeing the caliber of players, it's a shame that a few other guys didn't get noticed at all because there are a few other guys who have at least given it a shot," Eckel said. "All the circumstances with the commitment hurt us in that aspect, but we have no regrets.

"We talk about going to other schools, but we're like, 'No way. We did it right.' "

It's the attitude of a military man, whether he makes it or not.
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Kyle in training camp with the Patriots

why would the Patriots cut a Midshipman who may be good enough to play when he's finished with his cimmitment? any such player would seem to be a marketing windfall for the Pats...
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Especially, as J. B. Cash has pointed out, when the U.S. for better or worse is at war. For a long time players such as Eckel would be featured on the cover of Life, Time, Sports Illustrated and other popular national magazines. But those days are long gone. Adam Ballard can expect the same treatment as Eckel has received.
 

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i'm going to venture a guess that neither Eckel nor Ballard will see any time in NFL... i really hope i am wrong...
 

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I hope the Pats don't take Eckel. Please don't. Evans is the frequently played blocking back who has to usually block for Maroney and Dillon. Garret Mills just rots the bench mostly. They won't take another "natural fullback." If they do, his career is limited.

The only back that could get a chance to carry the ball is Toby Gerhart.

Besides, it is against the rules to have two white running backs or receivers.Edited by: Freedom
 

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Woops. Yeah! I definitely meant Adam Ballard.

Strange how Eckel goes from New England to Miami and a similar Heath Evans goes from Miami to New England.
 

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DraftDaddy just posted some good news for Kyle!
Eckel returns to NFL</font>
BY JEFF DARLINGTON
jdarlington@MiamiHerald.com

Dolphins fullback Kyle Eckel reported for duty Thursday -- but not exactly the way he has become accustomed to during the past year while serving in the Navy.

Eckel is back to being a full-time football player.

''This is the next stage of my life,'' said Eckel, who practiced Thursday. ``And I'll hit it head-on.''

The last time he arrived at Dolphins camp, the Naval Academy graduate was called back into service one day later, forcing the team to place him on the rarely utilized Reserve/Military List in September 2005.

On Tuesday, however, Eckel, who already once had been denied an early release from his five-year commitment to the Navy, was approved to return to football.

Upon his temporary departure from the game, Eckel lived aboard the U.S.S. Normandy out of Norfolk, Va. He then worked at an office building, assisting with weapons systems and communications for the Naval Forces Atlantic Fleet.

When Eckel reported back to Dolphins camp Thursday, coach Nick Saban said he was in better shape than he anticipated. Eckel currently is on the team's Exempt/Commissioner Permission List, so he does not take up a spot on the 53-man roster until the team decides to play him.

''We liked him when he was here before,'' Saban said. ``Obviously, being in the service, he's been working out, but he hasn't been playing football, so we'll try to work him back into it.''

Eckel, 5-11 and 240 pounds, ranks fourth on Navy's all-time list with 2,906 yards and 25 touchdowns.
 

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As Saban's quest to field the first all-black NFL team has been such a dismal failure, will he embrace this great kid and able runner from Navy, or will he continue to orient his efforts around afflete-thugs like Marcus Vick? Saban's job is now on the line, so maybe there is a slight chance that Kyle will be "allowed to surprise" just as Wes Welker has.
 

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how long does a player like Welker have to keep on making plays before it ceases to be a surprise? jeez! by definition, a person can't consistenly over-achieve. consistent performance = achievement.

guys like Kyle and Wes are playmakers. that's it. all this other crap the media spews is sickening negro-philia at it worst. blargh!
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that's best news i have heard in a long while, as far as NFL goes... now let's hope he actually gets a chance to play!
 

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I have some of the latest news on Kyle Eckel first he was tendered by the dolphins meaning they plan to keep him, and also their other fullback Darian Barnes was told he would not be resigned. Barnes for those of you who do not know is very black and very untalented. Could it be the caste system has finally worked in reverse I sure hope so because Eckel is one hell of a football player, and he could really help the dolphins pathetic offense. Do you guys beleive this is a glimmer of hope for things to come in the future lets all hope that Kyle becomes a pro bowl player.
 

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He'll need to start first, but there is always a chance. It is tough to get the Pro-Bowl as a FB without running or catching the ball some though, so he'll have to be allowed a chance to do more than block. We'll see.
 

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Kyle Eckel signed a new contract with the Dolphins given them two white fullbacks on their roster. Eckel can also line up at half back in short yardage and goal line situations. This bodes well for the Dolphins who got rid of Saban and his love of the black back. If you remember he cut Heath Evans for Darian Barnes who is no longer with the team. Damn I hope Eckel gets to carry the ball some from the tailback position that would be a breath of fresh air for the stagnate NFL.I was wondering does anyone know how fast Eckel was coming out of college or better yet what was his pro day numbers just curiuos to see if he has the speed to be a situational running back .
 
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Hey guys, current Navy FB/RB (not sure which) Adam Ballard, i saw his stas and he looks pretty good....can we hope for good things for him?
 
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