Klitschko destroys Byrd!

[White Shogun]

I think its unrealistic to expect a heavyweight fighter to go his entire career without ever being knocked out, especially if they're willing to fight the big boys that can bang.

Corrie Sanders is a hard core puncher, and if he had a little more will power and a little more desire, he might have been champion a long time ago.

Peter is a KO artist who had to resort to rabbit punching to put Wladimir down, although Wlad didn't have to turn his back into him every time they clinched. Only one of those knockdowns was legit. Having said that, Wlad did seem to be scared; I thought he was more afraid than running out of gas. I think the fact that he survived the "next greatest KO artist" has done wonders for Wlad's confidence, and makes him even more dangerous to the rest of the fighters in the division.

The one that's hard to explain is Ross Purrity.

The most telling thing about the 'new improved' Wladimir that I noticed, is that he is now much more patient. When he had Byrd on the ropes in the 5th, he went for the KO, saw it wasn't going to happen, so he slowed down and waited for the KO to come, which it did a mere two rounds later. Its also something to say that the 'best boxer' in the heavyweight division hit Wlad maybe two or three times during the whole fight.

One thing I do not understand is this livid hatred the regular boxing fan has for the Klitschko brothers. What is there not to like about these guys, unless you're a racist or jingoist? They're articulate, more so than many of the black fighters, and English isn't even their native language. They're educated, kind, sincere, courageous, highly skilled and powerful fighters. Vitali has the highest KO percentage of any heavyweight ever, and Wladimir has some of the best skills in the division. It simply baffles me as to why they are not paraded around and lauded like other heavyweight champions. The fact that HASIM RAHMAN gets more credit and more pub than either of the Klitschko's is ridiculous.

 

[Maple Leaf]

I make no apologies. I do not pretend to be an "impartial" fight fan. I really love watching the Klitschkos because of their abilities AND because of who they are. Yes, they are articulate, but the most articulate and intelligent and suave heavyweight out there is in your own backyard. Yes, he is an American. His name is Joe Mesi. If anyone of you have had the opportunity to hear him speak you will know immediately why he is vehemently despised by black boxers. Mesi makes the whole pack of them with their babbling and mumbling and their "know what I'm sayin'" jibberish sound like school yard rabble. Mesi speaks so well, so fluently, and so concisely that he makes commentators like Teddy Atlas and his side kick on Friday Night Fights seem awkward and ill at ease because they cannot get the upper hand agaist him in an interview. When Mesi speaks one's reaction is to think this man doesn't belong in a gym he belongs in a boardroom. He'll certainly end up there one day. Oh, and the babblers? They'll end up broke and on the street.

 

[jcolec02]

hi im new to caste football and love what you are all doing

ok first of all i think you are all right about how americans persieve (mispelled) european fighters.....but i think larry merchant and jim lampley NOW give wladimir klitschko and other fighters alot of credit.....i heard the commentary and they pointed out that byrd thought he was tough because he was taking shots but then pointed out that "the byrd family continues to encourage byrd to attack...but they are not the ones getting hit by the STEEL HAMMER"among other comments such as theres a "soviet revolution" in boxing....my point is that i think out of all the american commentators they are the least biast....also.....boxing may not be the biggest thing here....but in Germany and other Euro countries its HUGE now....... also.....this is important.....if anyone has links to ruslan chagaev or other white fighters video i would like to see it so post links on a response to this post....thx and glad to be a part of castefootball

 

[pt.guard2]

Total dominance by Klitchko. To Byrd's credit he was gracious in defeat......no excuses....just admitted that Vlad was too strong for him.Edited by: pt.guard2

 

[JD074]

Peter is a KO artist who had to resort to rabbit punching to put Wladimir down, although Wlad didn't have to turn his back into him every time they clinched. Only one of those knockdowns was legit. Having said that, Wlad did seem to be scared; I thought he was more afraid than running out of gas. I think the fact that he survived the "next greatest KO artist" has done wonders for Wlad's confidence, and makes him even more dangerous to the rest of the fighters in the division.

I was referring to the legitimate knockdown, not the hits to the back of the head. He got hit in the corner and then backed up to the other side of the ring, and Peter tapped him (not a real punch) and Klitschko fell into the ropes. So there's that knockdown, the Sanders fight, and the Brewster fight. "The story" that Steward is referring to is, in all likelihood, not about Wlad being "drugged." I assume that he was referring to fatigue or technique, and I haven't heard any better ideas so far.

 

[Spooge]

Excellent post Maple Leaf. Baby Joe was robbed of two precious years in which he may have made it to the top. Now gracious Joe will do it the old fashion way (without Don King), he will earn it! The man has presence in the ring (very exciting to watch) and out. He is a credit to the sport and to his lineage.

 

[Weltner]

moynihaninstitute.com/

"Slavs take over boxing"

and

"Whitey Dominates Heavyweight Boxing"

 

[White Shogun]

moynihaninstitute.com/

"Slavs take over boxing"

and

"Whitey Dominates Heavyweight Boxing"

Whitey Dominates Heavyweight Boxing was full of errors. Maskaev is not the current WBC belt holder, unless the author is a prophet or seer, as Hasim Rahman is the current champion.

And Chris Byrd lost by unanimous decision to Wladimir Klitschko in their first bout, not by KO in the 8th as the author states.

Although I appreciate the author's point of view, nonetheless, these types of errors discredit him and only serve to reinforce the caste system point of view.

EDITED TO ADD: The author corrected the error regarding Maskev in his article, "Slavs take over boxing," correctly listing Maskaev as the #1 contender for the WBC belt. Edited by: White Shogun

 

[Charlie]

Predictable article in ESPN magazine by Bill Simmons 'The Sports Guy'. 'Most extinct animals don't deserve their fate. Then there's the heavywieght boxer.'

Highlights:

The Klitschko-Byrd fight was more 'one-sided than Washington-Tomjanovich'.

'Not since the days of Red Dawn has America been under a Cold War attack of this magnitude...'

Nikolay Valuev looks like Ivan Drago '...if Drago were accidently exposed to a nuclear reactor leak.'

Michael Buffer looked mortified '...like he'd accepted 50 grand to announce at a bar mitzvah and was praying no one would find out.'

 

[Charlie]

Sports Guy announces Maskaev is a Kazak.

And that Brewster suffered a detached retina in round one.

 

[white is right]

Let the stereotyping begin. Might as well say that Red Army is advancing and we need to stop Stalin's iron curtain descending on the free world again...

 

[Kaptain]

I am looking to get a Klitchko tee-shirt. I haven't found any internet site that sells them - that is in English anyway. Any help out there?

 

[ironfist]

I am looking to get a Klitchko tee-shirt. I haven't found any internet site that sells them - that is in English anyway. Any help out there?

Go to the Klitschko web-site. They have a store there. I bought a shirt and a hat.

 

[Kaptain]

I think I will have a tee-shirt made instead. The price is about $26 for a shirt on the Klitchsko website. and the shipping is another $20.

I found an article on Eastside Boxing. It appears that only thing left for the caste lovers is to mentally masturbate over the Tyson Era of boxing. (see below).


Dream Fight - Wladimir Klitschko VS Mike Tyson!

05.05.06 - By James Slater: Wladimir Klitschko is, I believe, the best of the current heavyweight champions reigning today. His superb performance last Saturday, when he ripped the IBF title from the brave Chris Byrd, finally made him holder of a universally recognised belt (he had previously held the WBO title). As such he joins fellow title holders Hasim Rahman, Nicolay Valuev and, if one wishes to recognise the WBO champ, Serguei Lyakhovich as the present heavyweight rulers. I would fancy Wladimir to defeat all of these fighters. He is the best of an admittedly average looking bunch. But what if Klitschko had to face one of the greatest and most feared heavyweights of the last twenty years while he was in his awesome prime? I'm talking about a fight with the peak Mike Tyson. Of course, such a fight could never happen in real life, obviously. But the very idea of such a fantasy match-up is both exciting and one sure to fire up the imagination.

As the creator of this piece of fiction I have made up the rules. As Wladimir is considered, by most, as the best of the current crop of heavyweights fighting today, the Tyson he meets is the one who was fighting back when HE was considered the best - in other words, the 1987/88 version of "Iron Mike."

Courtesy of a time machine with the twenty-one year old Tyson placed inside the fight is fought under today's rules and is therefore scheduled for twelve rounds. And Finally, as Wladimir has just won the title for real he is a defending champion in this bout ( let's suppose Tyson holds the other two versions of world honours). So, we're all set - Twelve rounds for the undisputed heavyweight championship of the world; Wladimir Klitschko VS Mike Tyson!

The fight takes place at The MGM Grand in Las Vegas and a sell-out crowd awaits a potentially explosive contest.

Michael Buffer blasts out his trademark "Let's get ready to rumble!" and the action gets underway. Wladimir comes out with a very high guard and pokes out his big left jab. Tyson immediately goes on the offensive and attempts to get underneath Klitschko's massive arms and explode with his hooks. Wladimir ties him up and leans on Mike with all of his 240 pounds. At 219 Mike has quite a weight disadvantage. He is also the much shorter fighter. None of this alters his game-plan, however, and he continues to throw punches with bad intentions. Nothing big lands as of yet though due to Mike's difficulty in finding the chin of his massive opponent. Other than his jab, Klitschko throws nothing and is very keen to initiate clinches whenever Tyson advances. Mike switches his attack to the body and Wladimir backs off as he does so. The huge Ukrainian is fighting a very negative fight so far and as a result there is a sprinkling of boos to be heard from the audience. The opening round ends and it is given unanimously to Tyson.

Round two, and Tyson again comes out very fast. He was somewhat frustrated in round one due to Klitschko's spoiling tactics and he exhibits a definite snarl on his face now. Wladimir continues to use his long arms in a defensive manner only, content to push out the odd jab. He looks to be intimidated and wants no part of what Tyson clearly wants - for him to open up and fight hard. The clinching really start to annoy Tyson in this round and he slams a few elbows into Wladimir's face, for which referee Joe Cortez gives him a warning. Mike does have some success with his body attack though, as two wicked shots to the ribs land. Klitschko instantly grabs hold of Tyson's neck with both arms after he tastes these punches and an incensed Tyson thrashes angrily in an effort to get him off. Mike looks at the ref when the two finally separate, clearly wondering why his opponent is being allowed to get away with such negativity. Then, with only thirty seconds remaining in the round, Tyson at last breaks through Klitschko's guard. He whips in a hard left to the body and then, with absolutely blurring speed, connects with a huge right uppercut to the jaw. Wladimir is seriously hurt and his legs dip noticeably. He holds out both arms in a quite amateurish fashion and tries desperately to hold off Tyson's ferocious follow-up attack. Only his huge size and strength allow him to survive the round. As he goes back to his corner Tyson follows him with burning eyes. Mike did not want to hear that bell!

Round three now. Despite the best efforts of his corner-men - a team that includes his brother Vitali - Wladimir is unable to keep his composure and his face carries an extremely anxious look. Tyson smells blood and goes in for the kill. He lets both hands fly in savage combinations aimed at his shaken opponent and finds both his ribs and his chin. Wladimir's head snaps back and now he no longer has the wherewithal to even hold on. With Tyson still letting shots go as he is half way to the floor, Wladimir's colossal frame finally hits the canvas. He is flat on his back and it is evident to Cortez, who doesn't even bother with the formality of a count, that the fight is over.

With the crowd going crazy, Tyson raises one arm and bears his teeth. He is still smouldering as his corner ascend the ring steps to congratulate him. Wladimir remains prostrate on the canvas for quite some time. He took four devastating shots to the head at the end and the last of these, a left hook, robbed him of whatever consciousness he had left after enduring the stunning accuracy and power of Tyson's lethal fists. Wladimir was never in the fight. Tyson looked absolutely awesome. And in the process "Iron Mike" once again proved true the old adage - The bigger they are, the harder they fall!

So there you have it. My interpretation of what would have happened had today's best heavyweight fought the best mid-to-late 1980's heavyweight And though some will no doubt feel I have done Wladimir Klitschko a major disservice, I honestly feel this is how the fight would have turned out. Tyson was absolutely destructive back in his prime years and his amazing hand speed and power would have totally bewildered Wladimir. Let's face it, If Samuel Peter, who is similar in stature to Tyson although a far less effective knockout artist at the top level, could knock Klitschko down three times - what would Mike have done to him?

In the final analysis, Mike Tyson is one of the best heavyweights in history. Wladimir Klitschko is merely the best heavyweight in a time of mediocrity.

(MODERATOR-I have edited this post, it had the pasted article repeated several times. If there was any original content deleted I apologise)
Edited by: jaxvid

 

[Bart]

It sickens me to think a white man most likely wrote this article. The most adament defenders of black racial superiority are whites who receive perverse pleasure describing blacks beating whites in every venue especially boxing. For the record, Klitchko was knocked down once by Peter.Peter at 6'2'' or so is considerably taller than the diminutive Tyson. Mike would need to stand on a box to reach Wlad's chin.

 

[ironfist]

Typical idiotic article by a bigoted American writer who can't take it that white East Europeans own the Heavyweight division. Wlad would have easily beat the little gorilla and tought him a boxing lesson.

 

[Tired old White]

Kaptain Poop. Let me start with the admission that I am not a rabid boxing fan though I do enjoy watching the matches on Television. But for a moment consider that in Tyson's heyday his success could have been a combination Tyson's ability and an inferior talent poolto draw his opponents from. He started a down hill slide after being beaten by an unkown fighter named Buster Douglas who had not distinquished himself before facing Tyson nor did he do so afterward or should I say Tyson's fall started at this point. We now have a situation in which a fairly large gropup of talented easern European fighters have suddenly entered the pool of talent. Is it just possible that there is no dominant heavy weight not because the talent pool is low but becasue there are so many top rate fighters that it is impossible for a champion to avoid facing a competitor that he does not have to be on his top game to defeat?

 

[Hockaday]

Vlad is an awesome boxer with great offense, but Sanders exposed his chin and inability to fight when the boxing breaks down. Being very intelligent, though, he has since adjusted, with the help of boxing genius Emanuel Steward, with his quickness allowing him to tie up the other fighter when the bout threatens to turn into a fight instead of a boxing match. Any fighter he can keep on the end of his punches is in for a steady beating. His chin, though, makes watching his fights a nerve wracking experience.

A fight with Tyson is their primes? Tyson had problems with tall quick fighters who could punch. After about three rounds of frustration and Vlad's jab bouncing off his head, Tyson starts chewing on his gloves the way his always does when things are going bad, and tries to kick Vlad in the groin. Tyson is disqualified, and misses his chance to land his hook, which he would have done the next roung had his unstable mind allowed him to stay in the fight.

By the way, I love this Laikovich guy. Quick hands, five punch arsenal (jab, right cross, uppercut, hook, and a nifty right to the body). All this with an excellent chin to boot. Brewster was teeing off on him in the fifth or sixth and he came back in the end. I'm sorry , but Klitchko would have been gone. Then again, a wiser Vlad might have had Brewster out before that point.

Bottom line, there are some good white heavyweights out there, more than since I've been a boxing fan.

 

[jcolec02]

tedy atlas said wladimir had a "glass brain"the man speaks like 5 languages and has a Ph.D how the F*ck could he have a glass brain?

 

[Alpha Male]

Not all of their authors are caste system propagandists. Here is an article of a what if matchup b/t Wlad Klitschko and George Foreman. The author predicts a victory for Wlad.

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=6879&more=1Edited by: Alpha Male

 

[Alpha Male]

tedy atlas said wladimir had a "glass brain"the man speaks like 5 languages and has a Ph.D how the F*ck could he have a glass brain?

He might have meant glass jaw, as in he can't take a punch.

 

[Hockaday]

By glass brain I believe Atlas meant that Klitchko has some sort of complex, a lack of mental toughness that that makes him cave when the chips are down. I think Vlad answered at least part of that charge when he took on Samual Peter and beat him. Maybe Atlas made that remark before the Peter fight.

 

[white is right]

Update Wlad will most likely fight one of these three. Brock(should be a gimmee), Toney(who is way too small and old and fat) or the White Wolf. Out of the three the Wolf could spring the upset if he can take Wlad's power. Steward discussed this with Max Boxing........

 

[White_Savage]

Shoot.
Rahman is the last the black HW titleholder, and Wlad's next fight needs to be with this "great black hope". I especially don't want to see him fighting to take a belt away from another White man right now.

 

[moose]

teddy atlas aka turdy assless