Is this possible?

[Toby Hillis]

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<TD =first>Lamarcus Joyner </TD>
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<TD =first>Terrence Mitchell </TD>
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This has to be wrong or Im losing my mind or something, but this cornerback is rated the 7th best cornerback in the country, a 4 star prospectand he runs a 4.68 40?!? Hes ranked as the 88th best overall prospect and the 3rd best prospect in Michigan?! What am I not seeing here?! If this is correct...could you imagine if this guy was white!?!? Wouldnteven be"RivalsTop1,000,000"

 

[ToughJ.Riggins]

Toby Hillis I agree. It is possible to be a good nickle or number 2 CB at the FBS level with a 40 time like that, but an elite CB ranked as the 7th best in the country? If this guy was white- Rivals would be talking him down as too slow to even get one FBS offer at CB let alone be the 7th ranked CB in the country (or more likely just simply not have him in their archives).

In the NFL guys like Randy Moss and DeSean Jackson would toast this guy if he bites on a fake because his recovery speed is much slower than the average NFL CB (speed is most crucial at CB). According to Rivals, this guy is a 2nd round NFL prospect, if his ranking holds up...what a farce White Rivals.com is!

 

[whiteathlete33]

Blacks can be much slower than whites and still be ranked much higher. It has always been that way. I get so upset reading some of these scouting reports on receivers and running backs. If a white guy runs a 4.5 they list him as slow and a tweener. Blacks who run a 4.6 never get put down like that.
Edited by: whiteathlete33

 

[Jimmy Chitwood]

of course it's possible! in the modern world where truth is irrelevant, all it takes to be a "great afflete" is to be black.

for example, did you by chance see any of the Under Armour "All American" game? it was filled with more negroes than your local prison ... and they were all "amazing."

the football game was a train wreck.

while the negrophile announcers over-used the standard list of superlatives (explosive, phenomenal, great, game breaking, etc.), the negroes were performinga comedy of errors. only football isn't supposed to be funny.

the affletic quarterbacks, who the announcers repeatedly insisted all possessed "great arm strength," "terrific accuracy," and "incredible decision making ability," as well as the ever present "tremendous affleticism," were busy throwing interceptions, fumbling, or throwing the ball to no one. on the few occasions when a pass was thrown on target (by one of the two or threeWhite quarterbacks who were allowed to take a few snaps), the passes were dropped by receivers who all had "great hands" and were "playmakers."

the supposed ball "carriers" were busy dribbling, as there were more fumbles than positive rushing plays. and the "receivers" had more drops than catches.

yet, despite all visible evidence to the contrary, the announcers insisted that the "tremendous affletes" were "making a lot of big plays."

perhaps it is needless to say that there was a dearth of White players, and only one who played a caste position. Luke Muncie, an LSU commit, played strong safety ... but, of course, he is projected to"grow intoan outside linebacker in college."

 

[ToughJ.Riggins]

Guys, maybe I should have said Matt Jones and Kevin Curtis would toast this "7th ranked U.S H.S" CB with their serious speed. Welker would just juke him silly and then even Welker would separate from him in a straight lined race...what a joke! JC, the evidence is so clear that even a bird brain should be able to grasp this disturbing caste system.

 

[Don Wassall]

We live in a country built on lies that are rarely discerned by the masses even when the truth is handed to them on a silver platter. George Orwell remains the most prescientprophet of the post-WWII era.

 

[Toby Hillis]

I guess Im still learning how bad this caste system is. I mean, Ive been looking into the whole caste football thing for about a year, but things like this,and the Dillon Romain vs Tony Jones thing, how F---ING blatant can you be! D1 and the NFL is such a sham! Just recently I was talking to a friend of a friend at a bar. I was explaining the whole caste system and though he seemed to agree for the most part, once I asked him "how come there are only black CBs(in a country that is 87% non-black)in D1 and the NFL?" His answer:"Come on man, how many white guys do you know thathave the required 4.2-4.3 speed!" What a farce!

 

[Jimmy Chitwood]

Toby Hillis,

it's "strange" how pervasive and obvious the Caste System really is, isn't it? yet, to borrow a line from the Bible,so few have eyes to see or ears to hear.

the ridiculous nature of who gets to play come game time (not to mention who gets scholarships) is so obvious that you'd think it would be unnecessary to point it out ... yet, in reality it's quite the opposite. the DWFs swallow whole, along with their fast food "value meals," the oft-repeated lies. and at every opportunity they regurgitate them back as if they're truths.

it's pathetic and sickening.

 

[ToughJ.Riggins]

Toby Hillis, there are less whites per population that run 4.3 forties. But keep in mind that even your typical NFL STARTING CB only runs in the high 4.4s. In our 70-75% white United States there are numerous whites who run in the 4.5 range. A true 4.3 40 at the "NFL combine" is so rare I think a 4.3 flat still makes the top 25 player list for 2000-2009 on NFLdraftscout. Your friend is misinformed, a 4.5 40 is fast enough for some blacks to become #1 CBs in the NFL if they are physical, agile and quick, but no whites with these skills are allowed. Plus, a deep receiver usually separates for the QB to make the throw in the first 20-35 yards anyway.

 

[whiteathlete33]

I'm still waiting to see what happens with this afrolete Tony Jones. He has gotten a lot of offers from big schools and if somehow the midget makes it to the pros the NFL will be hearing from me.

 

[ToughJ.Riggins]

Everyone should remember how rare a true 4.3 40 is and that there are more than five times more whites in the U.S than blacks. Chris Johnson's 4.24 40 is the fastest 40 from the last DECADE at the combine, so basically nobody runs a 4.2 flat.

I was doing a study comparing black and white athleticism amongst elite athletes and whites are just as fast if not EVER SO SLIGHTLY faster over 10 yards, equal over 20 yards, run slightly better short shuttles (one cut, start and stop on a dime agility) and 3 cones (blend agility). Elite blacks are slightly faster at 40 yards and are slightly better at the broad jump (indicates swivel agility). Whites also do slightly better in the squat and bench press and vertical jump is basically equal. Blacks have many gifts as athletes, but I'd say overall whites are slightly better all round athletes.

Comparing measurables is tough- because whites are held out of playing certain positions in college. However, I found similar sized lower ranked or small school white prospects of nearly equal size and position to compare to equally sized highly rated black position prospects each year when I did this study. Unfortunately, I lost my sheets of paper I used to do this study right before I ignorantly moved to Jersey about 2 1/2 years ago.

 

[whiteathlete33]

ToughJ, did you compare high school white athletes to high school black athletes or college athletes?

 

[ToughJ.Riggins]

Both, and I got to see that so many great white H.S players just disappear in college without getting a shot even when they have brilliant production, a great game film and the combine numbers. I focused a little more on college, but used Rivals for Max squat numbers of athletes because NFLdraftscout doesn't have squat numbers. I also think elite blacks tend to have slightly stronger hamstrings and get better leg lift (broad jump etc.), but whites have slightly stronger quads (squat world record, acceleration etc.). We also have the bench press world record!

 

[Jimmy Chitwood]

Toby, you have a keen eye. and if you pay attention, you will see that the caste system and its enforcers in the media are constantly on the look out for ways to belittle White athletes. i'll re-post this info here to show you what i mean (i originally posted it moments ago in the Colts forum).

the negrophiles at ESPN takecheap, potshots at White athletes every chance they get ... in the most recent, they manage to insult Anthony Gonzalez AND Austin Collie in one blurb.

"¢ Anthony Gonzalez(knee surgery): His rocky road to recovery this season -- delayed by Nov. 5 surgery to clean out loose particles -- can't help putting his 2010 season in some question, particularly because Pierre Garcon (and to a lesser extent Austin Collie) filled in so admirably for him. Gonzalez will presumably enter training camp at full strength, as he did attempt a recent return to the field, but there's no way he'll be the breakout candidate he was entering 2009. Even if he's 100 percent, his opportunity won't be nearly what it was this year.

so even if Gonzalez recovers, there's no way he'll be any good.

and Austin Collie, who caught 13 more balls and 3 more touchdowns than Garcon, was a lesser performer.

the caste system never lets up. so we must never give up, either.

 

[ToughJ.Riggins]

Good post JC! Garcon is no faster than Gonzalez when he's healthy and since Gonzalez has a better overall resume and skill set the Colts should play Wayne at Split End, Gonzalez at Flanker, Collie in the Slot and Garcon should drop to #4 or even #5 if Giguere performs as good as some of us hope or hypothesize he can. I don't see that happening though in this negrophile league. JC, I consider it o.k to us the term negro in a Latin context so we are in complete agreement with everything here lol!

 

[Jimmy Chitwood]

JC, I consider it o.k to us the term negro in a Latin context so we are in complete agreement with everything here lol!

thanks for the support.

 

[DixieDestroyer]

<div>This has to be wrong or Im losing my mind or something, but this cornerback is rated the 7th best cornerback in the country, a 4 star prospect and he runs a 4.68 40?!?  Hes ranked as the 88th best overall prospect and the 3rd best prospect in Michigan?!  What am I not seeing here?! If this is correct...could you imagine if this guy was white!?!? Wouldnt even be "Rivals Top1,000,000"</div>

TH, typical caste propaganda & double-standard from (White)Rivals. They throw rating "stars" at these overrated, undertalented afroletes & shaft White players with better stats, speed, size, etc. It's all part of the massive caste machine.

Edited by: DixieDestroyer

 

[Thrashen]

4.68? Yeah, that sounds about right for a black highschooler to be awarded as one of America's top CB prospects.

That means nearly 100% of the guys (including some lineman) on my HS and D3 college football teams could smoke this loser. None of those other 40-times are that great, either.

Also, it's sad that I can bench more weight (and more reps) than a top ten pick in the 2009 draft (D-cup, Andre Smith).

What Jimmy C said about "who gets to play" and "who gets scholarships" works on so many levels within this loser society of white doormats.

 

[SoberWF]

@JC... It seems the NFL and the media simply do not respect the 3rd (or slot, or underneath) receiver as much. Despite Wes Welker's amazing year, he still is seen as an understudy supporting the "great" Randy Moss. On the Colts, Austin Collie's rookie leading numbers simply doen't "measure up" to Garcon's stats because his average yards per catch are 11 vs. Pierre's 15 and his long is only 39 (for a TD BTW) to Garcon's 66 (no TD). Yep, Pierre is the long-range-range threat, whereas Collie is the underneath relief valve for Manning. Of course, no team will run their "verticle threat" receivers down the middle of the field for fear of losing their precisous. athletic talent (note: all sarcasm above). In all seriousness, if Austin would get Carcon's routes, there's no doubt his average would be better than Garcon's; in fact, all his stats would outperform Garcon's). With that said, overtime, Austin's career will be very solid, and we most likely won't even remember who Pierre was a few years from now (slight justice to an otherwise overt unjust system).

 

[Jimmy Chitwood]

good points, SoberWF.

additionally, i commented on the Garcon situation in a write-up a while back,Small-school stigma? Or something more obvious? if you've not read it, you might want to take a look.

 

[ToughJ.Riggins]

That was a great piece JC. Amazing with all the small school prospects in the NFL that all time leading NCAA rushers Danny Woodhead and now Nate Kmic were ignored by the NFL combine and NFL draft. And Kmic didn't even get a tryout with any team...

 

[Toby Hillis]

That was a great piece JC. That one, the apples to apples comparison u did, Hillis vs Wells (I forget what it was called) and the "Fuhr is murdered" are just A++++ EXCELLENT!
ToughJ- I read your "arguing with youtubers," Its filled with great stats, real cases of obvious discrimination, etc...excellent as well!

You guys talk about getting thetruth out there, which I do(under various aliases on youtube,blogs etc) constantly! But I was wondering, and I know I am a newbie and all soI dont wantto overstep my bounds, and Im really just curious:
Have you guys or do you guys ever plan to organize CF efforts towards certain causes IE an announcement that says "here is the NFL's address. Everyone, letswrite them and tell them......whatever" or "Lets pretend we are Broncos season ticket holders an email the Broncos that we will cancel our season tickets if.....whatever"

Have you guys ever tried this in the past or plan to in the future?Again, just curious.

 

[Jimmy Chitwood]

thanks for the kind words, Toby Hillis.

as for your questions,CFers do quite a bit of that kind of thing as individuals. however, there simply isn't enough of us aware folks who are active at the moment to make much of a splash. the numbers of people who walk the walk in addition to talking the talk are growing, but we are still very few in number compared to the Drunken White Masses and the PTB who've created this mess.

i like your attitude, though. being unafraid to act on the truth is a BIG step that many people are simply unwilling to do. it's nice to see some new folks at CF who aren't scared.

 

[PhillyBirds]

Toby, a good first step, in my opinion, is to spread the word within your own circle of friends and family. Print out some of Jimmy's or ToughJ's brilliant pieces and share them with people. People you think have an open enough mind to avoid simply looking at the numbers and denying them outright.

As we've seen many times before, the media frequently and blatantly denies the cold, hard numbers in order to exclude or downplay white athletes. Handing out the truth on paper will go a longer way than you think towards showing people the bias of the sports establishment.

Keep up the positive attitude! It's certainly a pleasure to have you around.