is someone like me welcome on this site

[guest301]

Hi, i joined caste football about 9 months ago as the 100th member under the title aragorn777...since then i haven't had access to a home computer and haven't been able to login under that moniker for some reason. I guess I am guest 301for now. I joined this site because since the mid 80's (watching the celtic/laker battles) i have noticed the disrespect and constant putting down of the white athlete..to some degree even the disapearance of..althoughI think a resurgance is coming in basketball(eurpopean players)..track(wariner and rock) and boxing(white heavyweight champions and contenders). It was nice to discover a site that saw the same thing I was seeing. I posted a number of times initially and i enjoyed guys like colonel reb and okra 63 alot. I also let it be known that i am a jewish christian. A believer in jesus christ but a ethnic jew by heredity(also irish and scotch).


Why do I bring all this up? Although I haven't been able to post for a while, I have visited caste football many times(daily). I have noticed at times some very anti semitic posts or at least some hostility towards the jewish people and the nation of isreal. It bothers me because I consider myself a kindred spirit with most of the posters on this board about many topics..I am proud of my scotch/irish background just as well as my jewish background. Like many of you I am very patriotic, conservative, pro life, a protectionist, tough on crime, anti united nations and so forth...However i also am very pro isreal and a beleiver that we are the chosen people who God still has a plan for. I hate it when we are blamed for every problem that exists in the world. We are a very small country (5 million jews) surrounded by much larger countries(280 mnillion arabs) who hate our very existence. Since may of 1948 and when we miracously became a nation again(end times prophecy), we have survived and been victorious in five major wars..despite being outnumbered and outgunned in all of them..That should be a sign to some of you christians on this board. This post has already been too long and I am sure some of you will respond unkindly, I am hoping a majority of you will not and answer the question of whether someone like me is welcome on this site...I hope so..ps...i enjoyed reading the article on tommy z and mr. cash's article on it...we are about to be discovered by the mainstream media..they will probably kill us when they do but let's not give them the ammunition..although any publicity for us may be good as far as attracting new members. bye for now!

 

[Colonel_Reb]

Aragorn, I had been wondering were you went! I think the purposes of this board should unite us all, regardless of our religious affiliation, or lack thereof. I too have found some hostility toward my Christian beliefs on this site from time to time. I express my views about and to the atheists, agnostics, etc on this site, just as I have also made some comments about Jews, positive and negative, all of which are what I see or know to be the truth. We get along well most of the time because we realize the task that is before us requires unity among people of all faiths.

While I share others concerns over the way the Jewish controlled media potrays white athletes, I welcome any Jewish person to this site if they are willing to accept other religious views, and yes, perhaps a bit of anger toward some Jews. Then again, this isn't my site, I am just a poster. All I can say at this point to you Aragorn is I know how you feel and please, stick around. We can all learn something from our individual experiences and knowledge that will benefit the return of the white athlete to a respected position, and with it hopefully the return of our society to what made it great!

 

[guest301]

Thanks colonel Reb, it's good to hear from you again too...believe me ..some of the anti- christian postings on this site have been just as bothersome to me..but you and others have done more than a adequate job in sticking up for the believers on this site(of which I am one). However nobody has ever stuck up for the or come to defence of the jewish people on this site. I am not totally nieve about my people..yes american jews tend to be more liberal althouth not as nearly monolithic in their opinions as other minorities. I also agree that there are some jews behind the whole new world order, global goverment conspiracy as well..although for every one jew that is a part of that..there are ten gentiles doing the same thing. I am kinda distracted here..trying to watch the bucs-redskins game...but I don't plan on going anywhere as long as I am allowed to be on this site...I'm certainly no troll, bomb thrower or provacateur...later

 

[White Shogun]

I too have found some hostility toward my Christian beliefs on this site from time to time.

Reb, I know you and I have posted in response to each other a few times, in religious posts. I just want to clarify, that just because someone disagrees with you does not mean they are "hostile" toward your views. In my opinion, hostility would include but not be limited to, ad hominem attacks on you personally, and banning your posts or posts in support of Christianity in general. Simply because some of us here do not agree with the tenets of Christianity does not imply hostility on towards you and your beliefs, in particular.

I think anyone who promotes white athletes would be welcome on this board, as that is what this site is about.

 

[guest301]

I don't know about that white shogun...some postings like " love thy neighbor as thy self" has been attributed to the decline of white civilization on this site. I love my race, ethnic background and country..but not at the expence of my christian faith...if the gospel of christ is advanced at the expence of anything else(if necessary) then so be it...

 

[Colonel_Reb]

White Shogun, I was not referring to you. I was referring to others who stated on the board that they are very anti-Christian. I think those people know who they are. You, to my recollection, are not one of them. Thanks for speaking up on the topic, as I don't want there to be any confusion on the matter either. I should have been more specific in the above post.Edited by: Colonel_Reb

 

[Colonel_Reb]

Aragorn, I have mentioned in past threads what I believe is the Biblical covenant of God with the Jewish people and how it would be wise for a country to support the Jews as a people. However, this does not mean I support what Jews believe or their behavior toward white athletes. The Jews I have had dealings with tend to be very arrogant and self-righteous. I try not to judge any group based on the actions of a few, but this is all I have to go on. I believe in converting them to Christianity above all else. I have also met many "completed" Jews who are totally different from what I described above. I am glad that you are one of those who is completed!

 

[guest301]

Colonel Reb...I have not met those jews who you describe to be "arrogant and self-righteous"...I would venture that some of those wouldn't consider me a jew anymore since i am a believer in the gospel now. I am certainly happy,blessed and fortunate to be a " completed jew" as you said. I am also happy that you think it is wise for the usa to support jews as a people and that god still has a plan for us. I think it is quite ironic that a number of christians can have such antipathy for the jewish people but still worship jesus who was and is a jew and read a bible that is all about the jews and still hold it out to be the word of god(which it is)...After all..it is the gentiles who have been grafted into their tree and not the other way around...thanks for your friendly and honest remarks...

 

[JD074]

Aragorn, if you want to know where some of us are coming from with regards to our opinions about Jewish elites (in academics, politics, media, etc.) you should read "The Culture of Critique" by Kevin MacDonald, if you haven't already. It's definitely worth your time, and isn't hateful at all. It just tells the facts.

I find that Jews are some of the worst liberals, and also some of the best conservatives. There are Jews in the anti-immigration movement, for example, and I even read an excellent article written by a Rabbi, in defense of Christmas. There are clearly Jews who understand what's going on, but as you know if you've read the aforementioned book, there are some who have severely damaged Western (white) Civilization.

I don't know about that white shogun...some postings like " love thy neighbor as thy self" has been attributed to the decline of white civilization on this site.  I love my race, ethnic background and country..but not at the expence of my christian faith...if the gospel of christ is advanced at the expence of anything else(if necessary) then so be it...

Well there you go. I respect your religious beliefs, but if it's more important to you than your race, then one can reasonably say that, to a certain degree, it works against our group interests.

I'm not hostile to Christianity; at the very least, I respect it as a part of my people's heritage. And good old-fashioned Christianity is certainly capable of transmitting very important values from one generation to the next. But many Christians have lost their way; consider the way some churches are helping with the Third World Invasion of our country (illegal immigrant sanctuaries, African refugees.) That's the "love your neighbor" mentality that some of us disapprove of. Good, God-fearing white people used to differentiate "us" from "them." It's time for us to resurrect that long-forgotten survival strategy.

Of course one can also say that patriotism can work against the best interests of our group, especially if that country is vehemently anti-white (like America, and like most white countries.) I've made that point before. One can also say that about self-interest, desire for money, etc. Are Christianity, patriotism, self-interest, and desire for money inherently bad? No. But they can work against our group interests.

 

[guest301]

Interesting responce, JD074, I have not read the book you suggested but it might be worth my time. I have certainly read many treatises on jewish involvement in the global goverment "conspiracy"..I agree that some secular non-religous jews are a part of that and other things tearing down our culture..but certainly not a majority of jews. I wish I knew how to cut and paste so I could respond more directly to your posting. I also agree that jews can make the worst liberals and some of the best conservatives. Yes my religion(faith) is more important than heritage or race..Why, because it should be! ...Life here on this planet is temporary...my race and culture only matter in this life..my faith and exercise thereof has eternal consequences,,,however most of the time I am able to value and support my heritage, country and race without compromising my faith. The bible says to "seek him first" not to seek him only..so I believe i can have other priorities as well.


Your statement about christians having lost their wayby supporting illegal immigration I am certainly against. Why, because it's illegal and it leads to the decline of white civilization in general and america in particular. It also leads to terrorists having a much easier time entering the country. I certainly don't have a problem helping african refugees however if they are here legally, we should help them. Christianity is growing more in the third world and in china than anywhere else. I have noticed that certain churches in africa are now sending missionaries to this country, that's kinda sad when you think about it. I believe I can be a good christian, loyal to my jewish heritage and isreal, proud of white culture and a patriot at the same time. Maybe most people can't pull of that trick, But I can. but then again, it's not a trick. Look forward to corresponding with you further.

 

[jaxvid]

aragon,

For my part I would encourage your posting on the forum. If you see someone post something that you don't agree with feel free to respond. As long as discussion is civil I see no problem. The intent here is to have an open and frank discussion. Although please remember the forum is about sports and race and we certainly do not want to wander too far from that. I would think on balance it is better to have you here then not, as you may provide an important check on a tendency to slant too far in one direction.

 

[White Shogun]

certainly don't have a problem helping african refugees however if they are here legally, we should help them.

Why? Why should we help them? Can they not help themselves? Is the West to be responsible for the rest of the world as well?

Have you read some of the other threads about the outsourcing of American jobs and displacement of American workers right here on US soil, by immigrants, both legal and illegal?

If its because of your religious beliefs, then you have perchance stumbled across one of the primary issues that some members of the forum here (me, included) have with modern Christianity.

In my opinion, we need a moratorium on legal immigration, stronger border enforcement, fining those who hire illegals, end welfare benefits, rescind birthright citizenship, and call our troops home from around the world to protect our borders instead of those in Korea and Iraq.

Reb, is this what you meant by hostile?

Maybe it is. A little.

Edited by: White Shogun

 

[emt1]

Right on white shogun

 

[Bart]

Colonel Reb...I have not met those jews who you describe to be "arrogant and self-righteous"..

Guest , I can only speak for myself. I disagree with a lot of what you wrote. If you haven't met arrogant and self righteous Jews, your'e either lying or haven't met many Jews. I don't think you can be a Christian and espouse Judaism, they are miles apart. Read some articles by Israel Shahak and get an education. You may consider yourself a Jew, but no Rabbi would consider you as an equal because of mixed blood. You are a -Mamzer- look it up.


As for as a few million Israeli's overcoming millions of Arabs, what the heck is so miraculous about that? Stone age Arab goat herders fighting with antiquated weaponry against a group of invaders equipped with modern American and Western arms. You're chosen by God? To do what?


I've had Mormons, Baptists, Jehovah Witnesses, Charismatics, and even Lutherans come to my door trying to spread their message. Never have had a Jew stop by and ask me to join up? You know why? Cause they don't give a hoot about my eternal salvation. Why is that? Cause I'm a goy and all their big whigs and Rabbi's of are of the same genetic holy blood. Face facts; Their religion is all about and for genetic Jews. Everybody else is sh*t!


Edited by: Bart

 

[guest301]

Bart..I knew I would get a uncivil, nasty responce from you. So I guess to you I am a liar, mamzer, and I think everybody else is "crap"...your actual word I won't use. Was I anything but civil in my postings as well as those who responded to me. Why should I bother even responding to any of the little points you made when it would obviouslybe a waste of my time....I will make a exception in one area....God said that we were the chosen people ..I didn't come up with that and certainly don't go around feeling better than anybody else because of it. God gave us that designation for his own reasons, not because their is any inherent traits in us that warrants it.. I have already wasted enough of my time with you...notice everybody ...who attacked who first...but I am a liar, mamzer and don't give a crap about anybody..so who cares anyway...

 

[White Shogun]

I don't know Guest301, Bart's post didn't seem directed at you specifically as much as the idea that the Jews are God's chosen people. He himself didn't say that you are a 'mamzer,' he is pointing out that is what religious Jews call people of mixed race. By the way, if you do not trace your Jewish heritage through your mother, you would not be considered a Jew by the Orthodox anyway, because Jewish descent is matriarchal.

What is the difference between a Jew saying they are God's chosen people, and the Christian Identity movement saying they are the True Israel? Doesn't "chosen by God" set one apart as a superior race, and give one an identity that sets them apart from the rest of mankind? With that in mind, whats the difference between being God's chosen and a white who believes in Aryan Supremacy?

As far as Israel's survival militarily, if they were not the recipients of huge amounts of foreign aid, financial and military, and really the 'baby brother' of the United States, they would have already been wiped out. It is more a case of "America's Chosen People," than God's chosen.

P.S. Please do not construe my political views as a personal attack against you. I take these types of considerations in the same way as having a discussion with you about whether say, oh, Brian Leftwich is a good quarterback.

 

[guest301]

Thank you jaxvid for your responce. I agree that most of my postings should be on race and sports. That will usually be my intent in the future. However as I have been gone for a while as a active poster on this site..i had to respond to a few things that have offended me the last few months. I know I won't change the bart's of the world but at least I may have some influence on others and the many non-guests that traffic this site everyday. That was my intention anyway. p.s. I also agree with everything white shogun saidexceptforrecalling the troops from Iraq. I am certainly for more border enforcement, curbs on legal immigration, no more birthright citizenship, firing those who hire illegals and getting rid of welfare benefits and nay other goverment subsidy for that matter.

 

[guest301]

White shogun....." doesn't being chosen by God" "set one apart by being a superior race and give one a identity as being set apart from the rest of mankind". I don't think it means we are a superior race to be the "chosen people"..it just means we have the favor of God and Him using us, our history, and our many failures (biblically) as a means to graft the rest of the world into his plan of salvation. In regard to your statement about where I place my jewish heritage..it does come from my mother..luckily for me she knew the truth and raised me a baptist. By the way I don't think I said leftwich is a good quaterback..I just said i am a little bit a fan of his because of his toughness and classic white" no mobility" style..he may never be all that good and if anything he is the least mobile quaterback in the nfl(testeverde excluded)!

 

[Bart]

guest 301, you're overreacting. I belong to several groups and invariably some one will join and and say i'm gay and I'm offended or I'm Jewish and I'm offended. Guess what.. I don't care. And I'm pretty mild and civil, you just don't like what I say.

 

[guest301]

I guess it all comes down to what you think Is mild and civil..I have read many of your postings in the past year...i even agree with most of it when it concerns sports and even some of your politics..but you seem to have a very hateful and spiteful agenda where it concerns jews...all your many references to the "chosenites" and such...Trust me I'm not so offended that it keeps me awake at night that you and other like you don't like me....I can live with it..we have been living with that kind of stuff for years..it will all work itself out in the end....by the way...i'm one ethnic jew who cares about your soul....maybe I'm the exception.

 

[Don Wassall]

Lots of people who post here aren't interested in talking politics, and of those that do there is a pretty wide range of perspectives. But if you're going to espouse a pro-Zionist position you will definitely be in the minority and need to have a thick skin.


Israel may be small geographically and population-wise, but as far as military strength and political influence it is one of themost powerfulcountries in the world. I have nothing against Israel personally; it is the power that Zionists have over the government and media in this country that is way out of whack and must be ended if this nation is to survive. I don't believe that power is total by any means, financial, corporate and other interests are all part of the ruling coalition of the American Global Empire. But the Zionist element is there and it is very strong.


I am an American Nationalist; not a Jewish nationalist. I want a government that is friendly towards all but which avoids entangling alliances with any other country. Too much foreign policy is conducted from a Zionist perspective and too many subjects can't be talked about honestly without the old canard of "anti-Semitism" being trotted out to try and silence every kind of dissent. The criminalization of free speech in many Western "democracies" is primarily a result of Zionist pressure.


There is also the Christian Zionist factor, that claims to be based on Biblical interpretation and which actually wants an Apocalypse to occur to fulfill that interpretation. Combined with the Jewish nationalism of the neo-conservatives now running the U.S. government, it is a very volatile and IMO toxic mix.


The world is in crisis right now. We are closer to a global conflagration than any time since WWII, and given the amazing leaps in technology in the past 60 years, the carnage of a WWIII will be beyond description.


At the center of just about every major issue of the dayis Israel, and much of that is because of the influence Tel Aviv has in Washington, D.C. Jewish nationalism does not allow for any other group of people to similarly celebrate and strengthen their own heritage. That is the crux of the problem. Throughout history the Jews have been seen to be either at the top or the bottom; always there seems to be different standards for Jews than for everyone else. What the world needs is a leap in consciousness in order to strike a balance so that everyone can survive and thrive. And as bad as things are, I am not totally pessimistic about such a leap of consciousness taking place. People of good will can collectively overcome the evil that seems to be riding high in the places of power and control today.

 

[guest301]

I don't have the time Don to respond to everything you just posted butIagree that I will need to have a thick skin to be comfortable on this site. As hard as it may be for you to believe I am for the most part a american nationalist as well. I voted for pat buchannan in 1996 if that gives you a idea about me and contributed to him financially..since then I wouldn't repeat that mistake but I still agree with him on many things except Isreal. I also don't want to throw around phrases like anti-semitism with impunity....i know and understand the error in too much of that..it silences all discussion when it's thrown around with no understanding....As far as your statement about Christian Zionist and claimed biblical interpetation about the coming apocalypse and wanting it to occur....You are partially right about that..i believe it will occur but don't necessarily wan't it to occur...but it's not claimed biblical interpetation...it's the only accurate, literal and sensible interpetation of scripture to believe in these latter days( generation that sees isreal become a nation again will see all prophetic signs come to pass) that the rapture will take place, evacuating every christian off the planet and the tribulation being about god's focus returning after two thousand years back to the jews and opening up their eyes to their actual messiah(jesus christ)..I do believe that..but if I am wrong we will all know in due time...but anyways I feel like I have been on kind of a soapbox here...i needed to get it out of my system....thisis generally speaking a sports and racial awareness site and I would prefer to do most of my postings on that...I am glad you don't consider me a troll like pugnus, godking, blackman and others...I hope you continue to feel that way...because I enjoy this site immensly most of the time....

 

[Lord_Lugdreg]

Here is a link to one of the most important books ever written:

The Culture of Critique: An Evolutionary Analysis of Jewish Involvement in Twentieth-Century Intellectual and Political Movements - By Kevin MacDonald

 

[Colonel_Reb]

White Shogun, the post on the previous page isn't hostile at all, it sounds correct to me. I think Don's comment about having thick skin should apply to all of us on the site, as we have all given and received jabs from time to time. Like they say, grin and bear it!

 

[JD074]

Interesting responce, JD074, I have not read the book you suggested but it might be worth my time. I have certainly read many treatises on jewish involvement in the global goverment "conspiracy"..

It's not that kind of book. It's a very straightforward book about history, it's not about conspiracy theories or anything weird or mysterious.

I agree that some secular non-religous jews are a part of that and other things tearing down our culture..but certainly not a majority of jews.

Right, when we talk about Jews we're talking about a significant percentage of secular Jews in politics, media, universities, activism, law, etc. Certainly not all Jews.

Yes my religion(faith) is more important than heritage or race..

And I'm not judging you for that. People have different priorities according to their particular values. If you consider your religious beliefs (or patriotic beliefs or self-interest,) to be primary over racial group interests (however you define those interests to be,) then you would compromise those group interests before you compromise your religious beliefs. Again, that's not a judgment, just a simple fact. For example, at the present moment, I put my self-interest before my group interests. Maybe eventually I'll evolve beyond that, but that's where I'm at for now.Gotta be honest!

I certainly don't have a problem helping african refugees however if they are here legally, we should help them.

I have a big problem with it. If Christians want to help them, they should go there and help them, not bring them here. (That's what missionaries do, right?) We have to differentiate "us" from "them" or we'll die off. Simple as that. We will go extinct. Sure, helping one refugee or one family is not going to wreck our country, but when does it stop? There's a billion Africans, how many of them should we allow to come here? It's just not feasible. It'll be a lot better for us (remember, it's about us, not them, that's what "group interest" is all about,) if we have this attitude: This is our country and they're not welcome here. Period. They cannot come here, under any circumstances.

Multiculturalism is bad for white people because it means less of us and more of them. We've gone from 90% of America to 67-70% of America, and falling rapidly. That's not good for us. It's demographic suicide. White people are losing our homelands. Why can't we have places just for us? Africans have Africa, Asians have Asia, Arabs have the Middle East, Indians/ Mestizos have South America, and Europe and North America should be for us.

Christianity is growing more in the third world and in china than anywhere else.

Then let them stay in their home countries and practice their religion there. They should not be welcome in our homelands.

I believe I can be a good christian, loyal to my jewish heritage and isreal, proud of white culture and a patriot at the same time. Maybe most people can't pull of that trick, But I can.

Okay, so what if Israel and another country are fighting with each other, and the US government, in it's infinite wisdom, decides to participate. As a result, thousands of American soldiers, including thousands of white soldiers, die in the process. And let's say that the conflict has nothing to do with us; it's an ethnic conflict between Israel and some other country. And that country is posing no threat to America. So how does Aragorn the Christian, Aragorn the Jew, Aragorn the patriot, and Aragorn the White Person, feel about that?

Edited by: JD074