Is Bolt on Drugs?

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has anyone else notice that 95% of the Jamaican team ran PR's this year? its fair to say they have a great government sponsored doping program.
 

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Well the Walls of Jericho might be coming down soon, here is the first crack in the dam....Two Jamaican hurdlers implicated in steroid ring


* Delloreen Ennis-London and Adrian Findley allegedly received shipments of drugs
* The drugs were obtained through an Internet distribution network
* Both Ennis-London and Findlay were part of the Jamaican team in Beijing

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Delloreen Ennis-London
Jamaican Delloreen Ennis-London, who finished fifth in the 100-meter hurdles in Beijing, allegedly received shipments of performance-enhancing drugs.
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Adrian Findley
Documents obtained by SI state that Adrian Findley, an alternate for Jamaica in the 400-meter hurdles in Beijing, received a shipment of steriods in 2006.
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* REACT: Does this taint Usain Bolt's gold medals?

By Luis Fernando Llosa and L. Jon Wertheim, SI.com

Two members of the 2008 Jamaican Olympic track team received shipments of performance-enhancing drugs through an Internet distribution network, according to documents obtained by SI.

The documents state that between June 2006 and February 2007, two shipments of Somatropin (Human Growth Hormone, HGH) and one shipment of Triest (Estrogen) were sent to Delloreen London, at a Texas address that traces to the athlete Delloreen Ennis-London; the birth date on the document matches the athlete's as well, though the document lists the person's gender as male. Ennis-London, 33, is a Jamaican hurdler who won the silver medal in the 100-meter hurdles at the 2005 World Championships. In Beijing, she finished fifth in the event, but came within .01 of taking bronze. Though the information only pertains to receipt and not actual use of performance-enhancers, both drugs are banned for Olympic athletes.

The documents also indicate that in November 2006, a shipment of Testosterone, Testosterone Aqueous, and Oxandrolone (an oral steroid) were sent to Adrian Findlay, an alternate on the Jamaican Olympic team in the 400-meter hurdles. The drugs were sent to a North Carolina address that traces to Findlay; the birth date on the document matches the athlete's as well. Findlay, 25, was also a member of the Jamaican team that placed second in the 4x400 meter relays at the 2008 World Indoor Championships. Findlay attended St. Augustine's College in Raleigh, N.C.

Multiple attempts to reach Ennis-London through a variety of contacts, family members and organizations were unsuccessful. Ennis-London's husband, Lincoln, said Tuesday that his wife was racing in Switzerland and unreachable, but he confirmed she had ordered the drugs in June 2006 after consulting a physician over the phone about vaginal hemorrhaging she was experiencing. He said the shipment arrived when she was away at a competition and that she never opened the package. He added that the 2007 package arrived unsolicited and also was never opened. (Editor's note: Ennis-London was victorious in Switzerland on Tuesday, defeated Beijing gold medalist Dawn Harper of the U.S. with a time of 12.60.)

Reached Tuesday in North Carolina, Findlay forcefully denied the allegations. "I've been running stable all my life," he said. "Trust me, I don't use steroids. I guarantee you it wasn't mine and I didn't order it. I have a theory how this was sent."

The prescriptions written in the name of Delloreen London were reportedly obtained through the Anti-Aging Group, a network of clinics that advertise HGH and testosterone treatments on its Web site. According to the document reviewed by SI.com, the prescribing physician was Victor Shabanah. On his Web site, Shabanah advertises himself as a "hormone therapist."

Reached through the Anti-Aging Group in Miami, Dr. Shabanah asserted, "Make an appointment if you want to see me," before abruptly ending the call.

Findlay's prescription was reportedly obtained through the South Beach Rejuvenation clinic, a Florida facility through which Major League baseball outfielder Jay Gibbons, who was suspended by Major League baseball last December for violating the league's drug policy, received banned performance-enhancing drugs. According to the document, the prescribing physician was Daniel J. Hauser of Hollywood, Fla. Hauser did not return calls seeking his comment left at a home number and through South Beach Rejuvenation. This is from SI.com.....
 

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I hope this is the start of a big investigation. Just 3 days ago Powell ran a 9.87 in a rain storm into a wind. He follows it up today with a 9.72 to win easily. It is virtually impossible to recover that fast when running these times! Then a little while later Bolt when on to jog a 19.63 time like it was a stroll in the park easing down at the end. He complained that it has been a long season and he is tired. I used to think that the times that guys like Frankie Fredericks, Ato Boldon and Mo Greene ran were amazing. These guys now look like they were stuck in concrete compared to the Jamaicans. There are just too many world records, personal records and complete domination of the planet in the sprints from a tiny island. They would have done this a long time ago if they had the right peds. If I'm wrong, I would be shocked but I just know so many people in the track business who are raising their eyebrows in disbelief. It is just too obvious to anyone but a blind man. Edited by: white lightning
 

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Unfortunately the only ones that are going to be caught are the ones living in the U.S. As I have said before, WADA should open an office in Kingston and start investigating. If you have never been to Jamaica, it would be hard to believe, but there is zero law enforcement down there. Once you walk out of the walls of your resort, you are entering a third world country. People will offer you any type of drug that you can imagine every few minutes. I have been to many countries throughout Central America and the Carribean and Jamaica is the most drug infested place of them all.
 

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Here are the achievements of Ennis-London notice that she isn't a journeyman sprinter and has made finals and even medaled. Also on SI's website they have a recent photo of her and she looks like Mutola...
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Ennis-London Delloreen JAM
Sex Weight Height Date of Birth Place of birth
W 70.00 1.78 05/03/1975
Information
In 1999 she improved by more than 50/100 at 100m hurdles. National Championships: 2004 (1st, 100m H)
Personal Best - Outdoor
Performance Wind Place Date
100 Metres 11.77 1.60 Denton, TX 28/04/2005
100 Metres Hurdles 12.50 -0.10 Osaka 29/08/2007
Personal Best - Indoor
Performance Wind Place Date
60 Metres 7.55 Göteborg 08/02/2006
55 Metres Hurdles 7.56 Norman, OK 13/02/1999
60 Metres Hurdles 7.92 Chemnitz 27/02/2004
Progression - Outdoor
Season Performance Wind Place Date
100 Metres 2005 11.77 1.60 Denton, TX 28/04/2005
100 Metres Hurdles 2008 12.54 1.30 Fort-de-France 08/05/2008
2007 12.50 -0.10 Osaka 29/08/2007
2006 12.74 0.80 Doha 12/05/2006
2005 12.57 -0.80 Monaco 10/09/2005
2004 12.51 0.00 Kingston, JAM 27/06/2004
2003 12.70 0.50 St George's 05/07/2003
2001 12.57 0.90 Sevilla 08/06/2001
2000 12.52 1.90 Kingston 22/07/2000
1999 12.71 1.30 Kingston 19/06/1999
1998 13.27 0.00 Edwardsville 23/05/1998
1996 13.53 26/04/1996

1992 13.81 Seoul 17/09/1992
Progression - Indoor
Season Performance Wind Place Date
60 Metres 2006 7.55 Göteborg 08/02/2006
55 Metres Hurdles 1999 7.56 Norman, OK 13/02/1999
60 Metres Hurdles 2006 8.06 Stuttgart 04/02/2006
2004 7.92 Chemnitz 27/02/2004
Honours
Rank Performance Wind Place Date
60 Metres Hurdles
10th IAAF World Indoor Championships 5 sf 7.97 Budapest (SA) 07/03/2004
100 Metres Hurdles
The XXIX Olympic Games 5 f 12.65 0.10 Beijing (National Stadium) 19/08/2008
5th IAAF World Athletics Final 3 f 12.72 -0.30 Stuttgart 22/09/2007
11th IAAF World Championships in Athletics 3 f 12.50 -0.10 Osaka 29/08/2007
18th Commonwealth Games 3 f 13.00 -0.30 Melbourne 24/03/2006
3rd IAAF World Athletics Final 3 f 12.57 -0.80 Monaco 10/09/2005
10th IAAF World Championships in Athletics 2 f 12.76 -2.00 Helsinki 11/08/2005
2nd IAAF World Athletics Final 6 f 12.75 1.00 Monaco 19/09/2004
28th Olympic Games 5 sf 12.60 1.70 Athína (Olympic Stadium) 23/08/2004
IAAF Grand Prix Final 3 f 12.96 1.20 Doha 05/10/2000
27th Olympic Games 4 f 12.80 0.00 Sydney 27/09/2000
7th IAAF World Championships in Athletics 7 f 12.87 0.70 Sevilla 28/08/1999
4th IAAF World Junior Championships 5 sf 13.81 Seoul
 

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Shelly-Ann Fraser did not improve her 100 meter from 2003 to 2006.It looks like most jamaican athletes started being improving wonders in 2005 and some atletes later after 2006 like Ally Ann fraser.Ally an needed good pushing wind in 2006 to manage 11.72.From then on she became improving Queen with bringing 11.72 that se run in 2006 down to 11.31 in 2007.A year later 10.78.When you think in 2008 that she needed a pushing wind to run a second faster then 2 years before with pushing wind you are wrong,the wind was now 0.0.

It also seems that is doesn't mather how old(like the above( ennis london)or how long they had not improved for years nearly all have becomed a improving machine atletes the last years.

can this be on fruit and weed or have they a secret?
 

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Steve B, drugs are very available in Jamaica but ironically highly illegal. When I was there I was terrified of somehow being thrownin jailsomehow even though I am a nerd. Jail or prison especially must beunimaginable there for anyone let alone a non-black.


A white American tourist is really in a dangerous position travelling there. Its a false sense of security if we thinkthe US govt will go to bat for us to resolve some bs charges. And I am sure the US media would refuse toair a story that could hurt Jamaica's tourism trade.A large bribe might bethe only hope.
 

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Jamaica also has the highest rate of kidnapping in the world. Ironically, that is illegal there too.
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Well Carl Lewis isn't the closet when it comes to Bolt and drugs, when it comes to personal matters, that's another story... Here is his SI interview..... Last week, SI.com caught up with nine-time gold medalist Carl Lewis at the Audi Best Buddies Challenge, a charity bicycle tour and fundraising event to help people with intellectual disabilities. Lewis weighed in on everything from Usain Bolt's record-breaking performance in Beijing to Team USA fumbling the baton in the relays.

SI.com: It's been few weeks since the Games; what do you think of Usain Bolt?

Lewis: I'm still working with the fact that he dropped from 10-flat to 9.6 in one year. I think there are some issues. I'm proud of America right now because we have the best random and most comprehensive drug testing program. Countries like Jamaica do not have a random program, so they can go months without being tested. I'm not saying anyone is on anything, but everyone needs to be on a level playing field.

SI.com: I don't want to put words in your mouth, but are you accusing Bolt of possibly doing something illegal in order to gain an advantage?

Lewis: No one is accusing anyone. But don't live by a different rule and expect the same kind of respect. They say, "Oh, we've been great for the sport." No, you have not. No country has had that kind of dominance. I'm not saying they've done anything for certain. I don't know. But how dare anybody feel that there shouldn't be scrutiny, especially in our sport?

The reality is that if I were running now, and had the performances I had in my past, I would expect them to say something. I wouldn't even be offended at the question. So when people ask me about Bolt, I say he could be the greatest athlete of all-time. But for someone to run 10.03 one year and 9.69 the next, if you don't question that in a sport that has the reputation it has right now, you're a fool. Period.

SI.com: So when Bolt broke three world records and did it as easily as he seemed to, does that tip you off?

Lewis: Let's be real. Let me go through the list: Ben Johnson, Justin Gatlin, Tim Montgomery, Tyson Gay and the two Jamaicans. Six people have run under 9.80 legally, three have tested positive, and one had a year out. Not to say [Bolt] is doing anything, but he's not going to have me saying he's great and then two years later he gets popped. If I don't trust it, what does the public think?

SI.com: To be fair, you reportedly tested positive three times before the 1988 Olympics for banned substances, a ruling that was overturned by the USOC due to inadvertent use.

Lewis: That was an issue where people tried to make something out of nothing. It got thrown out. I didn't lash out. They said I tested for stimulants found in over-the-counter cold medications. That's it. I did nothing wrong.

SI.com: What were your overall impressions of how Team USA did in Beijing?

Lewis: I was completely embarrassed that the United States could not pass the baton. I've been in track and field for 40 years and I've seen the baton dropped 10 times, and we dropped it twice in the Olympics.

Look, I love Lauryn Williams, but when I read she said the baton had a mind of its own, I honestly said that girl needs to be committed. Are you kidding me? It was her fault. And [Tyson Gay] shouldn't have been running, because he was hurt. I'll give him all the credit in the world because he never complained about his injury, so I got his back there. But he couldn't drive out properly, and when he put his hand back, it was sideways and you can't pass the baton like that. These are mechanical mistakes that a coach didn't see in practice.

SI.com: I was surprised to read IAAF President Lamine Diack recently say that Bolt winning three gold medals in Beijing was more impressive than you winning four in 1984 because he broke three world records and you only broke one with the relay team. Did you see that?

Lewis: Yes, and I sent him an e-mail. For him to make that judgment is wrong. He should talk about Usain on his own merits. Secondly, I said one of the problems in our sport is there is such an emphasis on records and here you are, the president of the federation, talking about records. The sport should be about competition.

You can compare us as sprinters, but the thing I am most proud of is that I did multiple events and I long-jumped. There is not a sprinter on the face of this Earth that can long-jump. I tell people all the time that I wasn't a sprinter that long-jumped, I was a long-jumper that sprinted, and that's a fact.

SI.com: Would you ever consider coaching?

Lewis: No. I'm not a coach and I know it. I'm too busy and it doesn't pay. I'm expensive. But I would always advise.

SI.com: How long is track going to have this black cloud over it, where every broken record is looked at with a skeptical eye?

Lewis: Until the athletes want to change it. People forget that I was the first one to speak out about Ben [Johnson], and I got crucified. A year later, I was a prophet. The athletes have to say, "No, this isn't right." They know who's on it. They need to step up.

I look at someone like [Jamaican track star] Veronica Campbell-Brown, who lives in the United States, and has been transparent and consistent. She won the worlds last year in the 100 meters and this year she can't even make the team? And you're going to tell me that shouldn't be questioned?

SI.com: Do you think American track athletes will ever get the fame and notoriety that you and your counterparts did before drugs tarnished the sport?

Lewis: If the sport doesn't have credibility, you're not going to get the sponsors. It has to come from the inside out and America has to lead the way. We're cleaning things up. But they have to go further. Other people have to speak out.

Here's what angers me: Antonio Pettigrew [a North Carolina assistant track coach who testified in federal court that he took human growth hormone and EPO between 1997-2001 while winning the 4x400 relay gold in the 2000 Olympics, a medal he returned in June] kept his job and he's coaching young athletes. This is wrong. There have to be consequences for your actions.

SI.com: You're one of the few people who can understand what Michael Phelps is going through since he's become an American hero and is thought of as possibly the greatest Olympian ever. Do you see similarities or differences in what he will have to endure outside of his sport?

Lewis: Michael is a great athlete. I know him, so I'm really happy for him and all that, but it changes everything. The unique difference, which I am so happy about, is his sport is 100 percent behind him. Mine was the absolute opposite.

SI.com: What's your take on people trying to compare you and Michael in terms of being the greatest Olympian?

Lewis: I've never been one to compare eras in sports and you can't compare swimming to track and field because there's no way in the world you can get as many medals in track and field as you can in swimming. We can run one or two relays; they can swim five. I didn't realize that of Spitz's seven gold medals in Munich, three were relays. Five of his nine golds were relays. I thought, "If I could run the 4x100, 4x200, and so on, I'd have this many medals." To me, it's not a matter of saying I'm better. It's not even worth comparing. We should just celebrate who he is and leave it at that.

SI.com: Even if the comparisons might not be fair or even make sense in certain situations, aren't you happy that you're name still comes up whenever there's a discussion about the best Olympian or Olympic performances?

Lewis: Honestly, the farther I get from competing, the clearer becomes the significance of what I accomplished. When I was doing it, I don't want to say it wasn't a big deal, but in my mind I was just like a person going to work every day. Only 10 years later do you find out you invented something your second year on the job that revolutionized your business. I was at the Olympics in 2004 and Maurice Greene makes this ridiculous comment that he's the greatest of all-time. All of a sudden, people are asking me about that. Then Justin [Gatlin] wins and can be the first to win the 100 and 200 since me. So here we go again. It was the same thing this year with Phelps. Can he win the most gold medals? Can Bolt win the 100 and 200?

We get caught up in comparing all the time. I have this discussion with young people. They'll tell me Beyonce is better than so-and-so. Why can't we just say that Beyonce is amazing and so-and-so is amazing? I mean Ella Fitzgerald is amazing. Sarah Vaughan is amazing. Whitney Houston is amazing. Why do you have to say that Beyonce is better? Let's just be happy that we had a chance to celebrate all of them.
 

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Is Bolt on drugs? Well Victor Conte certainly thinks so, from

http://articles.latimes.com/2008/07/19/sports/sp-jamaica19Before writing the letter that British sprinter </span>Dwain Chambers presented to anti-doping authorities about Chambers' deceptive practices, </span>BALCO</span>
founder Victor Conte sounded alarms about the Olympic track and field
success of Caribbean countries, including sprint powerJamaica.</span>

Conte said that he urged the World Anti-Doping Agency to investigate
drug testing and supervision of athletes in Caribbean nations that lack
an independent, state-run anti-dopingbody.

Conte, who served a prison term connected to the scandal that arose at BALCO</span>,
said he met in December with then-WADA director Dick Pound and detailed
allegations of illicit behavior. He declined toelaborate.

"</span>To see the fastest people in the world
coming from one island [Jamaica], I'm highly suspicious," Conte said
this week. "I believe there's rampant use of performance-enhancing
drugs in theCaribbean."It is not just Bolt of course. The Jamaican women came 1, 2 and 3 in the 100M, won the womens 200M, and a Jamaican competing for Britain came from nowhere to take silver in the high jump with a new PB.
 

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Here is an article on the limit of human speed. I recall an article of about 20? years ago stating a time just a bit faster than Bolt. Now the article is taking the physical limit down a few notches below that.
Professor predicts 100-metre sprint record could drop to 9.48

Chris Lehourites, THE ASSOCIATED PRESS Dec 1, 7:17 EST

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LONDON - Usain Bolt's stunning world record in the Olympic 100-metre final is still a long way from how fast the human body can go, according to a study by a U.S. professor.

Shortly after Bolt ran 9.69 seconds in Beijing, Stanford University biology professor Mark Denny set out to estimate just how fast humans will be able to run.

He concluded that male sprinters could eventually get the 100 record down to 9.48 seconds and women could run the distance in 10.39.

"My results "¦ tell us that speed has limits, but not what accounts for these limits,"Â￾ writes Denny, whose conclusions were published last week in the Journal of Experimental Biology.

Bolt surely could have gone faster at the Olympics in August.

The tall Jamaican slowed down over the race's final metres and even banged his fist off his chest in celebration before crossing the line three hundredths of a second faster than the record he had set a few months earlier.

In September, Norwegian physicist Hans Eriksen analyzed TV footage of the Olympic final and estimated that Bolt could have run 9.55 seconds if he had not slowed down.

The women's record in the 100 is 10.49, set by the late Florence Griffith-Joyner in 1988. But Denny used 10.61 seconds in his study because of "compelling evidence that the (10.49) race was wind aided."Â￾

Denny used historical records dating back to the 19th century to track the progress of speed in humans, horses and dogs. He found that speeds in horses and dogs at the major races in the United States and Britain peaked, mostly in 1970s but some earlier, while most of the human races had not.

"In each case, an absolute speed limit is definable, and the current record approaches that predicted maximum,"Â￾ the 57-year-old Denny says in his summary.

But while Denny, like other experts in the past, concludes that speed has limits, he says it is impossible to know what those limitations are. He writes that it is unlikely that athletes' speeds are constrained by a single physiological or mechanical factor.

Denny, an avid marathoner, says the pattern of these limitations on speed could help scientists figure out how to break them.

At the Olympics, Bolt followed up his record in the 100 with another in the 200, running 19.30. Denny predicts that record could be lowered to a staggering 18.63.

In the marathon, where Haile Gebrselassie holds the men's record of 2:03:59, Denny's study says that time can be lowered by more than three minutes to 2:00:47. According to the research, the women's record of 2:15:25 set by Paula Radcliffe could be trimmed to 2:14:97.

"Predicted maximum speeds for women are 9.3 per cent to 13.4 per cent slower than those for men,"Â￾ Denny writes. "The present gender gap between men and women will never be closed between 100 metres and the marathon."Â￾

Denny also mentions performance-enhancing drugs and their ability to make a human, or animal, go faster.

"For present purposes, let us define a greyhound, thoroughbred or human (male or female) as an individual performing without drug or genetic enhancement,"Â￾ Denny writes. "If drugs have contributed to the winning speeds in the races used here, speeds in the absence of these drugs would presumably have been slower."Â￾Edited by: white is right
 

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Bolt in 2007: 10.03; Bolt in 2008: 9.69 (potentially 9.55)

Is Bolt on steroids? Seriously? Not only is he on steroids but just about every black person who has set a world record in the past 20 years is, especially Jamaican. To not see that is to be prejudiced or not understand track and field. We should just make them legal so white people can take them too. But the same people who say black people are faster will object to that.
 

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Bolt broke the 150 meter world record today. Interesting that Mennea had the world record until today. Here is the AP story....Bolt runs fastest 150m in history

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MANCHESTER (AFP) â€" Triple Olympic champion Usain Bolt ran the fastest ever 150m on Sunday in a street race held in a chilly and windy Manchester City Centre.

Bolt came home in 14.35sec, beating the previous best recorded by Italian Pietro Mennea of 14.8 in 1983. Britain's Marlon Devonish was second in 15.07sec.

In the women's race, American Debbie Ferguson-McKenzie clocked 16.54sec to beat Britain's Olympic 400m gold medallist Christine Ohuruogu, who ran 17.10sec.

Jamaican Bolt, 22, had earlier predicted he would smash his own world 100m record this year.

He said bettering his world record of 9.69 seconds that he set in Beijing last August "shouldn't be a problem" this year.

"My coach expressed his views in Beijing, saying I could run 9.54, and I can definitely do that," he told the BBC.

"I still feel goose bumps when I hear or watch the Beijing 100m, it feels good to know I've done such a wonderful thing.

"But the 100m final was just another day for me. I knew I was going to win - I was feeling good, my starts were better and that was my main concern, so I wasn't really worried.

"I don't really think about (breaking the record again) but I think it's possible if everything goes well in training."

Asked how long he hoped to remain a force in world athletics, Bolt forecast he would be a threat until at least 2015.

"I can be at the top for six years if I want," he said. "That's the aim for me. My main goal is to make myself a legend and I'm going to work really hard to do that."

Meanwhile, Ethiopian Haile Gebrselassie comfortably won the Great Manchester Run by 34 seconds with Kenyan Vivian Cheruiyot's winning the women's race.

However, Gebrselassie failed in his bid to reclaim his world 10km record as gusting winds made his task impossible.

The 36-year-old - holder of 26 world records during his career - eased to victory but found a strong headwind in the final five kilometres impossible to overcome as he failed to better the world best mark of 27 minutes one second run by Kenya's Micah Kogo at the end of March.

Gebrselassie, whose major target this year is the Berlin Marathon in September, timed 27minutes 39seconds ahead of Ali Zaied of Libya (28:13) and Ukrainian veteran Sergiy Lebid (28:36).

The two-time Olympic 10,000m champion said that he had felt confident in the first-half of the race but realised as the contest entered the final 5km that he would not succeed.

"Today it was wonderful in the first half but on the way back the wind was horrible," said Gebrselassie, who nevertheless posted the fourth fastest time in the world this year.

"I wanted to run a world record, but in the second half it proved too difficult."

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He is so obviously on roids I dont know why anyone bothers to pay attention to him He ran his first 100 meters of today in 9.9 seconds, which is faster than he ever ran in 2007. Unger said he doesnt even bother warming up sometimes.
 

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Yeah but Bolt also ran on a straight track. All of the other guys had to run the curve as far as I know. Not to mention that Bolt is on enough peds to make most of the worlds sprinters look modest in comparison.

Is he on drugs? Anyone that doesn't think that Bolt is must be on drugs themselves.
 

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This post is for StarWars and anyone else who doubts how many guys are on drugs. Especially the two big names from Jamaica. It's a joke. Listen to the hurdler as he talks about the Cuban Oly.Champ D.Robles, and Powell, Bolt, etc. Jamaica is as guilty as can be! Just look as Asafa Powell who yesterday couldn't even go sub 10 with a 3mph wind. He is off his cycle. If they don't cycle right, they suck.What a joke! Catch these people!

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Both part I and part II, you can just tell how many of the athlets are living a lie. They have trouble looking at the camera. Clean up the sport WADA. Make the playing field level for everyone. Get rid of the cheats.
 

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Dexter Faulk is the man. I wish he had the courage to let loose a couple of big name cheaters, though. People call me racist in a heartbeat just because I say Jamaica is dirty. Most of the US is too (Tyson Gay, Walter Dix...ahem....) but Faulk and Spearmon are the real deal in my opinion. All this cheating in the US, Carribean, and GB makes it look like blacks are the better athletes because they are the ones who love track in those nations. Montgomery, Greene, Lewis, Christie Ben Johnson...the list goes on. When are people going to realize that you can't run a 9.69 slowing down without warming up on just chicken nuggets. Anybody who truly loves the sport knows that. Donovan Bailey and Michael Johnson are the ones who got away without testing positive, and hopefully Bolt doesn't join that list. he needs to join the first one.
 

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People need to look at it like this. If you were a black man, it's a big secret. It's kind of like having natural rythym, run fast and jump high naturally, are the best boxers/fighters in the world, and have the biggest dicks. All of these stereotypes are not true. If I were black, I would want people to believe these things as well. Why tell people otherwise. So they cover up the truth.

Whites are the world greatest jumpers.

Whites are the strongest men in the world.

Whites can be competetive and win in the sprints.

Whites have the longest dicks.

All of these statements are true on average. In study after study, there is virtually no difference between white mans and black mans dicks. Most find whites are barely larger when erect. Even if they are the same, whites along with blacks have the largest penis size. FACT.

White dominate the High Jump Competitions. We can and do jump. We normally sweep all the medals at the World Championships and Olympics in mens and womens high jump.

We can sprint. We do win medals. We would win more with a level playing field.

We also are great dancers.

Borishnikoff was one of the worlds greatest dancers. Dancers from hip hop, to jazz, to ballet, to swing, etc. are white a good deal of the time. There is no one race born to run, jump, have rythym, make love the best, etc.

Stereotypes rule the world. The media pushes them and people are naive enough to belive them.

Again, if I were black, I would want people to belive I was the best at everything. It is too their advantage to get ladies, make the team, look cool, etc. You can't blame them for not telling the secret. I wouldn't either if I were them. People just need to wake up and realize that anyone can excel in sports with good genetics and hard work. Don't buy into the b.s. stereotypes.

The chance of people ever realaising this is minimal however. Any great white athlete is also assumed to be on roids while blacks are just naturally fast no matter how many world class black athletes get caught. We know the truth. Spread the truth and try to educate some of these dumb people around you.

In the end, sites like here and youtube.com are our friend as they can show that we kick ass as good as any race in the world. We can do anything and nothing can stop us. We don't let others brainwash us with their crap. Had to vent. Tell everyone you know the truth. Also support your athletes just like they do. It is natural. Make comments on sites to open peoples minds and eyes.
 

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If you want see what roids do to your personality see what Dennis Mitchell is like now and compare to what he was like in 96' or 92'. He had a legendary hair trigger temper and now he sounds like a black version of Bill and Ted.....
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looks like Faulk was taking a jab at Merritt when he said a certain "400m runner" or maybe he was referencing JW. either way it's good to see someone voice their opinion.
 

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19.59 into a -0.9 wind on a 63 degree rainy day, come on! this roid freak is going to go sub 19.
 

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People are clueless. There are still many who think Michael Jackson was a normal man who did no wrong. May in rest in peace but he was far from normal. He had hundreds of surgeries, slept in a oxygen device at times, slept with little boys and didn't see the harm in it, had a pet monkey and did everything to be more white like from the hair to the nose to the skin. Again, he was talented but very strange. Not to the fans. He was the best and they idolize him.

Usain Bolt has the same type of cult following. The dumbing down of the world is just amazing to me. No matter how many sprinters are caught after running unbelivable times, they still worship these guys and swear their innocent. Hell they don't even care if their on roids alot. Look at LA and the Manny Ramirez Fans. They just go crazy over anything he does. M. Vick has the same effect. People just have lost their common sense these days. Root for a Tim Duncan. Root for a Steve Nash. Root for the guys that play by the rules and are role modes for kids. Wishful thinking.

Do I think Bolt is on drugs? Yes along with the majority of the Jamaican Team. Just like the Eastern Europeans did a long time ago, the US has and still does, Jamaica is doing it better than all of them put together in my opinion. It is impossible to beat every sprinter in the world like they are stuck in concrete. No one is that good. It is so obvious but people are stupid.
 

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i have to say I think people should be caught before we label them drug cheats.... it's simply the "innocent till proven guilty" presumption.

They freeze samples now, so if he's a user it WILL come out someday.
Bolt may well be the most talented sprinter to ever walk the face of the earth, but if not let's wait and see.

Meanwhile he can entertain us by breaking records and making most of his competitors look like schoolboy athletes.
 
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