is a US-Israel break-up possible?

[Jimmy Chitwood]

Storm brews between US and Israel

WASHINGTON - After eight years of the closest possible relations, the United States and Israel may be headed for a period of increased strain, particularly as it appears likely that whatever Israeli government emerges from last week's election will be more hawkish than its predecessor.

while this would appear on its face to be great news, somehow with Obama and his ilk (all the other Republicrats in D.C.) making the move, i'm thinking it won't turn out well for us folks who want the US out of the middle east...

 

[DixieDestroyer]

Good gut reaction Jimmy. "Bacrock YObama" has surrounded himself with uber-Zionists like parasite "Rahmb(l)o", so I'd assume the White House will continue to serve AIPAC. ***BTW, it's far beyond time tp end ALL middle east funding & troop placement, but the pawns on "Crapitol sHill" will never do so.

 

[Run Stuffing LB]

The useful idiots of the NWO are not going to suddenly turn on their jewish masters. Edited by: Run Stuffing LB

 

[Freedom]

A US-Israel breakup is only possible through stepped up grass roots action and increased industrial development in America. Institutionally, "our" current ruling establishments such as the CFR have been using Israel as a one world gov't propaganda piece for sometime.

 

[Don Wassall]

Institutionally, "our" current ruling establishments such as the CFR have been using Israel as a one world gov't propaganda piece for sometime.

How? And to serve what purpose or agenda?

 

[Don Wassall]

A US-Israel breakup is only possible through stepped up grass roots action and increased industrial development in America.

What does the first part of your sentence have to do with the second part of it? Youconstantly make what can charitably be described as unique assertions without elaborating or giving any reasoning whatsoever. If you're going to connect "increased industrial development" to the U.S.-Israel relationship in the same sentence, explain what the hell you mean, don't just make an off the wall statement every post. Or would that spoil the fun. . .

 

[screamingeagle]

Isreal should break their alliance with the United Staes. We have not been very good allies with them.

 

[Freedom]

Go on their website.
http://www.cfr.org/

It has persistently claimed that international coalitions are necessary as an excuse to resolve Israeli-Palestinian tensions at least since the Carter Administration.

 

[Don Wassall]

Go on their website.
http://www.cfr.org/

It has persistently claimed that international coalitions are necessary as an excuse to resolve Israeli-Palestinian tensions at least since the Carter Administration.

Once again no reasoning or explanation is offered. That statement is meaningless. Why is an international coalition an "excuse" to "resolve Israeli-Palestinian tensions"? Are you opposed to negotiations to attempt to do so?


How does that answer my previous question about your claim that the CFR uses Israel as "a one world government propaganda piece"?


I know it appears to be impossible for you to do so, but try explaining your reasoning, that is if there was any reasoning at all involved in the first place. Edited by: Don Wassall

 

[j41181]

With Obama as president, a US-Israeli break-up is possible. I would find it a sight to see if Jews lash out at Obama.

 

[GiovaniMarcon]

Here's a question -- could Israel survive and thrive without any form of assistance from the United States?

Aside from America, does any other country actively and enthusiastically have any form of relationship with them?

I don't know too much about Israel.

 

[j41181]

I think not, it's just the USA alone. Europe hates Israel, even European Jews are too quiet to voice themselves out. Asia does not give a damn, what more about Africa (especially Egypt). If a nuclear holocaust were to take place, it will be by Israel against these Muslim terrorists. Israel will sooner or later fall in the hands of radical Jews.

 

[Jimmy Chitwood]

i think i briefly mentioned this in another thread a few days ago, but this contains much more information.

Yet another Israeli connection to 911 comes to light: Mossad (link includes video of an in-depth Fox News broadcast.)

an excerpt:

A NEW ISRAELI CONNECTION to the tragic events of Sept. 11, 2001 has recently been unveiled. Buried in a New York Times story on Feb. 19 was the eye-opening revelation that a Lebanese Muslim Arab who has been taken into custody by Lebanonâ€â€￾which has accused him of being a spy for some 25 years for Israeli intelligenceâ€â€￾ just happens to be a cousin of one of the Muslims alleged to have been one of the 9-11 hijackers.

Although Ali al-Jarrah wasâ€â€￾publiclyâ€â€￾an outspoken proponent of the Palestinian cause, it now turns out that he was actually working as a paid asset of the Mossad for more than two decades, betraying his own nation and conducting spying operations against Palestinian groups and the pro-Palestinian party Hezbollah.

The New York Times, reporting on the al-Jarrah affair, revealed this: "It is not the family's first brush with notoriety. One of Mr. Jarrah's cousins, Ziad al-Jarrah, was among the 19 hijackers who carried out the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001."

 

[jimlongstreet]

Here's a question -- could Israel survive and thrive without any form of assistance from the United States?

Aside from America, does any other country actively and enthusiastically have any form of relationship with them?

I don't know too much about Israel.

I'm neutral in my attitude toward Israel but I'm familiar with it's weapons manufacturing industry. Israel sells billions of dollars of weapons to other countries . They are the largest suppliers to India, which is in a somewhat similar position of being bordered by hostile Moslem states. Their relationship is friendly. Israel also sells non weapons technology to China such as water desalization systems. Apparently, China is in great need of increased sources of fresh water. This economic relationship and a previous large trade in Israeli weaponry has caused China to become much friendlier to Israel. Even, believe it or not , because of their fear of Iran some of the Arab Gulf states although not friendly have lessened their hostility towards Israel. The Saudis actually criticized Hezbollah in the 2006 war in Lebanon. One oil rich Arab Gulf state actually said if Iran threatened them with nuclear weapons they would turn to the US or even Israel for protection. Israel due to their constant wars with the Arabs, and the immigration of tens of thousands of Russian engineers to Israel many of whom worked for the Russian military have developed a very sophisticated weapons industry especially in UAVs (unmanned aerial vehicles) in which they are considered producers of some of the best UAVs. Although, there is hostility among much of Europe's population towards Israel , even in countries in which very large anti-Israel demonstrations are common, secretly because of Israel's experience and knowledge Britain and Germany especially are partners in several sophisticated weapons systems development projects. So even without the massive US Aid it receives Israel would survive. It also has thriving non military technological sectors especially in computers including software and in medical devices and new medications. Non Jews such as Bill Gates and Warren Buffet have visited Israel and reportedly were impressed with it's highly educated ,trained population. Warren Buffet, I've heard, has only invested in one foreign country : Israel. I hope that answers your question.

 

[devans]

Jimlongstreet,


I accept everything you say above,but I am a little confused. Why does the U.S. Government give such a technologically advanced and self sufficient country billions of dollars each year? Could this not be better invested in poorer and more struggling democracies around the world? Or alternatively spent in the USA on healthcare or on boosting the economy?

 

[jimlongstreet]

Devans

I agree . The US should end aid to Israel .They don't need it.

 

[j41181]

Jimlongstreet,


I accept everything you say above, but I am a little confused. Why does the U.S. Government give such a technologically advanced and self sufficient country billions of dollars each year? Could this not be better invested in poorer and more struggling democracies around the world? Or alternatively spent in the USA on healthcare or on boosting the economy?


 

Not for Obama here, but the USA could just do that, cut financial military aid to Israel. Israel can stand on it's own for another 50-100 years w/o any military aid from the USA. With the way we are financially now, I think this is the appropriate time.

 

[DixieDestroyer]

Jimlongstreet,


I accept everything you say above, but I am a little confused. Why does the U.S. Government give such a technologically advanced and self sufficient country billions of dollars each year? Could this not be better invested in poorer and more struggling democracies around the world? Or alternatively spent in the USA on healthcare or on boosting the economy?


 

Not for Obama here, but the USA could just do that, cut financial military aid to Israel. Israel can stand on it's own for another 50-100 years w/o any military aid from the USA. With the way we are financially now, I think this is the appropriate time.

Amen! I'll do ya one better...we should end ALL foreign aid/funding to ALL countries It's not Constitutionally sound for the U.S. taxpayer to be subsidizing foreign nations. We need to also withdrawal from the (NWO puppet org) UN and kick them off U.S. soil. As a staunch Constitutionalist, I am against foreign entanglements & "empire building". The traitors on "Crapitol sHill" need to spend less time pandering to the "Global Community" & more time cutting government size & spending...which is (unfortunately) obvious that they will not do.

 

[j41181]

Jimlongstreet,


I accept everything you say above, but I am a little confused. Why does the U.S. Government give such a technologically advanced and self sufficient country billions of dollars each year? Could this not be better invested in poorer and more struggling democracies around the world? Or alternatively spent in the USA on healthcare or on boosting the economy?


 

Not for Obama here, but the USA could just do that, cut financial military aid to Israel. Israel can stand on it's own for another 50-100 years w/o any military aid from the USA. With the way we are financially now, I think this is the appropriate time.

Amen! I'll do ya one better...we should end ALL foreign aid/funding to ALL countries It's not Constitutionally sound for the U.S. taxpayer to be subsidizing foreign nations. We need to also withdrawal from the (NWO puppet org) UN and kick them off U.S. soil. As a staunch Constitutionalist, I am against foreign entanglements & "empire building". The traitors on "Crapitol sHill" need to spend less time pandering to the "Global Community" & more time cutting government size & spending...which is (unfortunately) obvious that they will not do.

The USA has done enough for whole wide world, it's time it attended to it's OWN affairs. The people of the 3rd World keep whining and whining about food and energy shortages. If I had a huge mic, I'd tell them to control their BIRTH rates, their sprouting too many babies to add more misery in this world. The young people need to get off their butts and get a good education, and get a job. Many in the developed world don't realize how LAZY people in the 3rd world really are, and they say I'm a racist. It's a very good time for the USA to become an ISOLATIONIST!!!! But Washington's long-time Globalist attitude will never let that happen again!!! The USA gives and gives to help the world, and what we get in return? Bombs, bullets, drugs, criticism and condemnation from the world for IMPERIALISM!!!

Edited by: j41181

 

[Charles Martel]

As long as the US media is largely owned and controlled by Zionist Jews, the American government will continue to support Israel.

It has never been in the best interests of Americans to do so, since making enemies of Arab and other Muslim nations has hurt the US economically (best example being the 1970s oil embargo). The war for Israel in Iraq has had a huge cost in American lives and taxpayers' money.