[Spoken like a true libertarian atheist homo-apologist.
first of all I take the "atheist" as a compliment, thanks a lot!
I was yesterday at a scientific researchers gathering in a university here in town (multiple domains of research), I asked some if they are beleivers or atheists; the answer is predictible but none of them beleive in God; an astrophysicit just said that if the put the God equation in the balance they would never acheive what they acheived.. no wonder why the vast majority of nobel prize holders do not beleive in god or at least "they care so little about god to call themselves atheists or not"
no wonder why black africa, or the middle east is so under-developped! the more a society is developped, the less it cares about religion! it's a shame that the extreme intelligence of some of the USA is overshadowed by ppl like George Bush, and even worse! the mormon Mitt Romney!
so again, thanks for the compliment.
2nd, homo-apologist? I'm rather anti-apologist; but pro homo-indifference indeed; two diametrically opposed POV! if you gonna push forward a gay, or a black just because he's black or gay, I disapprove it, but the majority of gays doesn't want a special treatment, just the right for indifference
There is an infinite number of reasons why unfettered homosexuality should be discouraged that have nothing to do with religion. Just because some gay jews removed homosexuality from the APA's DSM in 1973 does not magically relieve us of its negative symptoms. You can read a well-cited report about gay promiscuity
here.
One thing jews share with muslim is they're contempt for homosexuality, Ahmadinejad just made an interview a few days ago with the BBC (?), an islamic charia country, you can find the same aggressivity in israeli streets, religion IS the only motive of course
A survey taken in the 80's revealed that 75% of gay adult men reported having over 100 sexual partners. I've been immersed in some a couple of different alpha/jock environments, where status and money afforded the opportunity to rack up that many female notches. Yet, it was still rare in my observation when a straight man would chase that lifestyle into triple digits. Even more disturbing is the statistic that 25% of gay men have had over 500 partners. In the heterosexual world, that requires some wildly-elite status or at very least some extreme bottom-feeding. But if you have four gay "friends", the odds are that one of them has choked down 500 ****s. They are not just like us.
again, (I'm not yet at the Aids part), what is done in the intimacy does not concern me; but I assume that you're okay with gays that do not have multiple partners? who enjoy fidelity? , and you despise, in the same logic some of your friends that have a "lot" of female conquests? who practice orgy? or maybe "one night stands"? not sure about it, I'm betting it's just the "homosexual" part that disturbs you, not the multiplication of partners
A whopping 62% of new AIDS cases in 2010 were homosexual men. This, from less than 2% of the population. When you consider how many gay men already have AIDS, this statistic becomes even more mind-blowing. It is extremely difficult for a heterosexual male to contract HIV, and still pretty tough for a female to catch it through vaginal intercourse. If an HIV+ man is not ejaculating into your anus, your best bet to get infected will be swapping needles with intravenous drug users (a community in which gay men are, no surprise here, largely overrepresented). This is why Magic Johnson's wife "miraculously" doesn't have HIV.
The boldly-progressive New York Times reports that over 50% of homosexual male long-term relationships are not in fact monogamous. I imagine that response bias pushes that number down, and the real percentage is higher. So how does that affect me, who presumably should just mind my own business?
Well, AIDS is no longer a death sentence, so incorporating gay spouses into health care plans can add an extra ~$50,000/yr in retroviral treatments to the burden of coverage. Not to mention the magnificent tally of research and advertisement that has been poured into "cures", which are simply expensive offsets. Now add the mountainous sums required to include gays in corporate quotas, erect separate housing units at colleges and on military bases, and police the rest of us for "bigotry". I'd say that's a reasonable justification to discourage homosexuality outright.
what you are describing is a male to male, Aids infection, why should it bother you then? 50 percent are not monogamous? if they are ok with that, so what? is it religiously related or what? I do not understand.. do you include also heterosexual couples that practice anal sex? a lot of straight men practice anal sex with their female partners; a lot of straight men have multiple female partners, it's a risky behavior and you should include them in your argumentation.
as for the AIDS and money issue; while there is a lot of campaigns for condom using, the pope came up with his genious quote of condoms propagating AIDS, so multiple thanks to him!
a gay man who has a normal life, and uses condoms should be your best buddy then right? he's not spreading aids nor costing the society any money: would you consider a good person, I bet the answer is NO!
And, I want you to tell me how much smoking for example costs the US society, and the health care system, hundreds of billions of dollars? a lot more! heart diseases, cancer, buccal tissue infections,etc etc.. even minor soars relate to smoking cost an extreme amount of money! not to mention the increase of transmissible infections and the related public health issues that comes along! look around you, family and friends and see how much of them are smokers! you should put them in a lower case than of homosexuals, and despise them even more.. but is it really the "cost" of homosexuality that is bothering you? I'm not sure!
as for quotas for "homos" in companies or so, I'm against it, I'm for homo-indifference: if you're wandering in a crowded street, with just a glimpse you can point to , say, a black person, or to a female, but can you point out (without missing) to a homosexual person? no! if you meet a friend or an acquaintance, does it go like this: hi how are you? plz can you refresh my memory, do you practice anal sex with your gf? or, how many girls have you f***** this month and in which position?.. you don't want to know, I don't want to know, and it should be the same for a homosexual person.
I beleive the cause of homosexuality to be multi-factorial. You can be "born that way" for whatever genetic reason, you can experience a specific trauma that induces your paraphilia (child molestation, for example), or you can endure circumstances over time that mold your outward expressions (your mother dressing you as a girl throughout your childhood, for example). Considering that sexuality might be fluid in any small way during the path to adulthood should lead us to discourage it. Instead, we congratulate gays, reward them with scholarships, apologize for their eccentricities, and promote them in media in the only most flattering manner. This parallels the way blacks are treated in the realm of modern sports, with identical consequence. The docile, responsible, monogamous blacks of the Jim Crow era have been usurped by a fatherless thug culture, simply because we embraced them as absolute equals rather than recognizing distinctions. Granting free rein to the gays is detrimental to white culture.
I'm glad that you're already aware of the "born that way" for in fact, very good genetic reasons, evolutionary reasons, I can point out some readings but you're aware of so it's fine and it's good. as for child molestation, no society agrees with that, but unfortunately these kind of things are noticed when it's often two late!
what is the title of this thread? sodomite linebacker promoted captain of team?we congratulate gays and reward them? if we are doing so JUST because they're gays, so it is wrong! but, if they are rewarded for an X reason and you're unable to see anything else than the fact that they are gay, so you'll always say ; they got promoted for their gayness.. the fact is a lot of famous gays come out of the closet after being famous, or promoted, or rich, etc.. but once again, I'm not for gay praizing, just for gay indifference!
white culture AND gayness can go along side by side without being opposed..
This all said, I'm pretty sure that religion HAS something to do with all that; I myself was pretty beleiver, and fiercely homophobic, I thought that there is very good reasons to hate gays other than god's violent revenge, but in fact there is none!
