Holocaust Museum Shooting

[jaxvid]

It's one thing to feel that way and another thing to go public with it. It's his private pain, but what he is trying to do is buy some "sympathy" from the public so he doesn't get painted with the dreaded brush of "RACIST!" for what his father did. So what if he wishes his father was dead, it doesn't change anything except what he hopes is other peoples perception of him.

Have you EVER heard of a black criminals relatives wishing that their relative was dead instead of the victims? Not ever! That's because they understand that blood is thicker then water and don't toss their own people under the bus to try and buy some sympathy from other people.

Geez if you can't have your family stick by you in the tough times you got nothing. That's why white people suck. The whole world thinks this guy is an evil scumbag, his son should at least provide some support to him, it doesn't mean he agrees with what he did, just that the guy is his father. Is that asking too much??? Is a mother supposed to cheer when they send her boy to the electric chair because he's guilty? Hell no, you do what's right and stick by your people.

 

[StarWars]

I agree. It's ok to feel a bit Scarlet Letter guilty but selling your own father out for public sympathy is just unethical. Without family you have nothing.

 

[Thrashen]

Just look at what Adolf Eichmann's son said after his capture in Argentina (and eventual torture/execution). Gee, both of these guys (Von Brunn and Eichmann) had similar enemies. Then, their little turd-boy sons disgraced them even further by throwing dirt on their media-buried corpses.

I'd be proud of my father no matter what he did...especially if the media disapproved of his actions in such a dramatic way.

Jax, once again you've proven to be one of the most level-headed posters this site has ever seen. I too place my family way before my race.

 

[Menelik]

It's one thing to feel that way and another thing to go public with it. It's his private pain, but what he is trying to do is buy some "sympathy" from the public so he doesn't get painted with the dreaded brush of "RACIST!" for what his father did. So what if he wishes his father was dead, it doesn't change anything except what he hopes is other peoples perception of him.

Have you EVER heard of a black criminals relatives wishing that their relative was dead instead of the victims? Not ever! That's because they understand that blood is thicker then water and don't toss their own people under the bus to try and buy some sympathy from other people.

Geez if you can't have your family stick by you in the tough times you got nothing. That's why white people suck. The whole world thinks this guy is an evil scumbag, his son should at least provide some support to him, it doesn't mean he agrees with what he did, just that the guy is his father. Is that asking too much??? Is a mother supposed to cheer when they send her boy to the electric chair because he's guilty? Hell no, you do what's right and stick by your people.

Sticking by your family in troubled times is one thing but defending them when they committed a criminal act such as murder is another. I don't know if the son was scared of being painted as a racist either. As far as blacks sticking up for their criminal kin....well I would argue thats probably one of the reasons why their neighborhoods and families are in disarray. IMHO the honor of the white race doesn't rest of this sad case.

 

[jaxvid]

Nobody said anything about defending him. How about shutting up though? Here's and old guy off his rocker and the kid has to pile on him? If the guy woulda shot someone cause he didn't like the car they were driving everyone would say "oh it's old man, he's nuts", no one would be saying he's scum and should be dead. In half the states and most of the rest of the world he wouldn't even get the death penalty for it. But now he should be dead? The guy's sick, why else do something crazy like that, no one argues that. But since he's a dreaded RACIST he should be D-E-A-D.

The guy had a lot of views similar to many people who post on this forum only he had the cajones to preach about it, not on an anonymous internet forum but in public to anyone who would listen. And for that he has to be demonized, in case YOU don't get the message. Check out the internet news sites, the kid is plastered all over the place, his fat face crying about how bad his father was. It's just what the multi-cults want, a white guy crying for his father's blood, not because he's a crazy old bastard but because he was pro-white.

 

[Thrashen]

If Von Brunn would have murdered a random white person in his hometown of Maryland it would have MAYBE made the local news.

But because the victim was black and the intended "hate" was for the media's precious Holocaust Museum / Jewish people....Von Brunn has made WORLD news.

How is one murder different from another? Well, it's simple, a murder with deliberate racial intentions will serve the Powers-That-Be's anti-white agenda perfectly.

I think what Von Brunn did was unorganized, stupid, lazy and rather pointless. All he did was feed their anti-white fire. A guy that intelligent should have known better. That being said, at least he had the balls to DO SOMETHING (unlike the rest of fat, drunken white amerika).

I suppose Joseph Stalin was correct; "the death of one is a tragedy, the death of a million is just a statistic."Edited by: Thrashen

 

[Menelik]

Nobody said anything about defending him. How about shutting up though? Here's and old guy off his rocker and the kid has to pile on him? If the guy woulda shot someone cause he didn't like the car they were driving everyone would say "oh it's old man, he's nuts", no one would be saying he's scum and should be dead. In half the states and most of the rest of the world he wouldn't even get the death penalty for it. But now he should be dead? The guy's sick, why else do something crazy like that, no one argues that. But since he's a dreaded RACIST he should be D-E-A-D.

The guy had a lot of views similar to many people who post on this forum only he had the cajones to preach about it, not on an anonymous internet forum but in public to anyone who would listen. And for that he has to be demonized, in case YOU don't get the message. Check out the internet news sites, the kid is plastered all over the place, his fat face crying about how bad his father was. It's just what the multi-cults want, a white guy crying for his father's blood, not because he's a crazy old bastard but because he was pro-white.

Oh please excuse me for pissing you off. I get the message good. I f you agree with the guys views, not what he did, fine.

 

[StarWars]

I think the old guy is a nut. Either there is some plot to it by the marxist agenda, or more likely he just went crazy. His motive does not really fit the crime.

I think what he did was stupid, and evil. I know very little about guns, but I've seen enough movies to know a 22 isn't exactly good for killing anything above squirrels and racoons. Very weird.

Either way, the kid sold his father out. He wishes his father were dead. I'd stick by my family even if they were terrorists. I don't mean support their actions or beliefs, but just be there for them simply because they are family. Without friends or family you are nothing, if this kid wants to sell that so some strangers will not hate him, fine. It sayss something about both his character and intelligience.

 

[Bart]

I've been reading about Mr. Von Brunn. He knew the score! Quite an interesting book he authored. Apparently his Social Security had been cut or halved, so that was probably the last straw. Can you imagine the changes he's seen to this country in his 88 years? Illegals, blacks, and multitudes of third-worlders sucking our resources dry and he a war veteran get's his stipend slashed?! It's a wonder there aren't millions more just like him, fed up and looking for justice or revenge.

 

[Solomon Kane]

I'm with Jaxvid on this---for a son to say that he *wishes* his father was killed is incredibly unethical. What, *No* pity for an obviously deranged father? Perhaps one who had reached some sort of emotional limit? *All* you have to say about him is that you wish he were dead?


*Only *white racism/white racial consciousness is totally unforgivable in today's world?




By the way, have we heard from or seen anything of the perpetrator? Even Oswald got a two minute interview to profess his innocence. And why is it that he's not been given the customary qualifier "alleged" until we get a trial and a judgment? Its interesting also that it is claimed that he has been shot in the face. Interesting...does this meanhe will wind up not looking like Von Brunn on the stand? Will his non-resemblance to von Brunn be then explained away assomething resulting from the injury? Will the accused be the real von Brunn, the 89 year old internet weirdo, or some actor who will be spirited out of prison at the convenient time? Yes, I'm engaging in speculation...but there is still a lot about this that seems very contrived...the conclusions seem too set in advance...and the results so obviously in favor of the ADL--a black martyr, more sympathy for the Jews, for Israel, the possible passage of gun bill... I could well be wrong, maybe this guy isthe proverbiallone nut...but there still remains a lot to be discovered on this.

 

[jaxvid]

This good article is worth reading. Another big double standard.

(snip)
But two weeks before the von Brunn shootings, The San Jose Mercury News ran a short article about a similar crime that was just as deadly as the Holocaust Museum incident.

The killers were motivated by the same type of hatred and extremism.

Yet, for some strange reason, the murder has attracted almost no attention or outrage.

In July 2007, Michael Wills, a white man, was shot and killed by two members of Your Black Muslim Bakery. As the name suggests, the bakery was a racial-nationalist outfit with ties to the Nation of Islam (the store even displayed a prominent picture of NOI founder Elijah Muhammed). Yusuf Bey IV, the leader of the now-defunct bakery, and Antoine Mackey, one of Bey's followers, were charged with shooting Wills in the head with an assault rifle.

The Mercury News article leaves no doubt as to the racial motive of the murder:

"Devaughndre Broussard, another Bey IV follower who has admitted to killing journalist Chauncey Bailey, told a prosecutor in March that Bey IV and Mackey bragged they killed Wills because of his race. The two saw him walking in North Oakland as they were discussing a string of racially motivated murders in the 1970s known as the Zebra killings.

"'They was laughing about and joking about,' Broussard said of Bey IV and Mackey.

"Mackey 'said he seen the white dude walking down the path ... then he shot him,' Broussard added.

"Bey IV later said, ‘We got a devil. White people are devils,' according to Broussard's statement.

"Then Broussard said Bey IV talked about ‘a devil mentality. A black man can be a devil if he's against his people.' Bey IV and his late father, bakery founder Yusuf Bey, have often, while preaching, referred to white people as ‘devils.' And in telephone calls recorded from the Santa Rita Jail in Dublin and obtained by the Chauncey Bailey Project, Bey IV often made similar statements, referring to ‘white and Jew devils' and ‘media devils' whom he claims are trying to destroy him."[Former bakery leader accused of saying 'white people are devils' after 2007 killing, By Josh Richman and Thomas, May 26, 2009]

An open and shut case of a racially-motivated hate crime? Think again. Prosecutors are not seeking a hate crime charge against Bey IV and Mackey.

http://vdare.com/

 

[Menelik]

This case is getting more bizarre:

http://tinyurl.com/mjtsogEdited by: Menelik

 

[Observer]

CNN transcript - Witness says one guard shot another at Holo Museum, not von Brunn.

Black US Holocaust Museum Guard Shot by Security Guards? CNN LIVE FEED

HENRY: And then you saw some of the return fire from the security personnel?

MARIA: Yes, it hit the security man. I am not sure where, but he was flat on his back.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/16441034/-CNN-transcr-Witness-says-one-guard-shot-another-at-Holo-Museum-not-von-Brunn

 

[StarWars]

Maybe it was a conspiracy after all.

 

[Don Wassall]

If this had happened at a bar, on the street where he lived, or just about anywhere other than a system-sanctioned "hallowed" place, everyone, to the extent the shooting got any publicity beyond his locality,would just assume that the perp was a senile old man who had no idea what he was doing.

The first question I would ask is if the old fellow had Alzheimer's. What's truly scary is how various organizations and individuals with genuine influence in the power structurehave not just stepped up their ever frenized callsfor the passage of oxymoronic federal "hate" crimes legislation, some are now demandingthe "rounding up" of "hateful" people, as Bonnie Erbe of PBS and U.S. News & World Report is doing, because of what one apparently crazy old man did in a country where 20,000 people are murdered every year. These forces will stop at nothing to criminalize and even mass murder those who won't accept the direction they have been forcing, through subversive methodsspanning decades of time,this country to go.

 

[jaxvid]

Now the old guy is a pedophile. They say they found "child porn" on his computer. Bet he had a meth lab too.

 

[Observer]

CNN transcript - Witness says one guard shot another at Holo Museum, not von Brunn.

Black US Holocaust Museum Guard Shot by Security Guards? CNN LIVE FEED

HENRY: And then you saw some of the return fire from the security personnel?

MARIA: Yes, it hit the security man. I am not sure where, but he was flat on his back.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/16441034/-CNN-transcr-Witness-says-one-guard-shot-another-at-Holo-Museum-not-von-Brunn

Full CNN TRANSCRIPT:

Aired June 18, 2009 â€" 14:00 ET

I have Maria here. She lives in the United States. Some of her relatives are here visiting from Puerto Rico. So they were going to the museum.

Describe what you saw, Maria.

MARIA: Well, we were in the "Remember the Children"Â￾ exhibit. We were just exiting and we heard shooting.

I ran towards the glass doors to see what was going on. I thought it was a joke or something. And there I could see a security man pull out his gun and shoot towards the shooter.

I also saw another security man on his BELLY. There was blood everywhere. So I didn't actually see him get shot, but I saw that he was badly hurt and he did get shot.

HENRY: And then you saw some of the return fire from the security personnel?

MARIA: Yes, it hit the security man. I am not sure where, but he was flat on his BACK.

HENRY: Do you remember what floor --- is that the second floor?

MARIA: We were on the second floor, right where "Remember the Children"Â￾ was. I could see a few other security people there.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...10/cnr.06.html
CNN transcript: Witness says one guard shot another at Holo-Museum, not von Brunn

 

[Menelik]

Wow! Do you have a link directly to CNN to see this transcript?

 

[Observer]

Wow! Do you have a link directly to CNN to see this transcript? 

CNN transcript

 

[white is right]

Racist, child porn and "Hillbilly Crank". The old anti-white criminal stereotype trifecta.....

 

[White Shogun]

Now the old guy is a pedophile. They say they found "child porn" on his computer. Bet he had a meth lab too.

What are they doing with his computer anyway? What does what he had in his house have to do with the shooting? They go to his house to go through his stuff or did his son turn it all over to the cops?

 

[Menelik]

From my experience as a former cop they, whatever agency is investigating, could have easily gotten a search warrant from the judge. Since this guy had a website I imagine that his computer was one of the first things they looked at.

 

[foreverfree]

I think the terms righ wing and left wing are obsolete. We need new terms, but don't ask me what they are.

Are the terms "liberal" and "conservative" also obsolete IYO? (You used "righ wing" and "left wing" in the above quote [I forgive the misspelling]). Not that it matters to me.

John

 

[screamingeagle]

Liberal and conservative are also obsolete. I find myself agreeing with Pat Buchanan most of the time and I still consider myself a liberal. Either he has changed or I have.

 

[Kaptain]

Apparently he died today. Seems a little suspicious that certain people die during a short imprisonment or before a full trial. Add this guy to the list.



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