Heisman 2011

[Freethinker]

TOP teams[/B]. Toby was on a team that was headed to the Sun Bowl, even though they were 1-11 before Toby committed, this wasn't seen as much by the voters. Andrew Luck was a freshman and nowhere near the level he is now, Toby carried that offense on his back with over 350 touches. Ingram was on Alabama who was going to the national championship and shared carries. If this same unspoken rule is the case, Trent Richardson should have the edge on Montee Ball and Griffin should be an afterthought. IF Griffin was the top qb, it doesn't matter because he is on a 3 loss team. Yes he doesn't play defense, but neither did Gerhart. Luck should have more of a shot as well, his team is headed to a BCS bowl, along with Richardson and Ball. Griffin is headed to the Alamo bowl. BUT....I guess the rules change when its a black quarterback.

That is an excellent point and will show the Heisman panel's bias if Griffin wins this year.

 

[Claimjumper]

last night on their top story screen, BSPN had a photo of 4 of the 5 finalists next to the Hesiman Trophy. Can anyone guess who the one left out was:icon_rolleyes:

 

[white is right]

Griffin isn't winning the Heisman, even the troll knows that. It will be one of the guys playing in the BCS games. He won the Davey O'Brien trophy and that is all he is going to win. The voters make the trophy the unofficial MVP trophy of college football. It's only in extremely rare cases that player on a non contending team wins the award.

 

[sport historian]

Skip Bayless said Griffin has his vote.

 

[whiteathlete33]

Can we imagine if Griffin does win it? Scam won it last year and if another black quarterback winning this year will give the media plenty to talk about. Two black quarterbacks have never won the trophy in back to back years and Griffin would be the fifth black qb to win it. I hope Luck wins it otherwise don't turn on your tv sets for a while because the hype from the media will be endlessw

 

[white is right]

Skip Bayless said Griffin has his vote.

Enough said.....:thumbdown:

 

[Carolina Speed]

Is it possible that Richardson and Griffin's votes can get split and Luck could win?

 

[white is right]

Yes, in the past players and writers have complained that the Heisman had an East Coast writers bias. Ie the West Coast voted one way the East Coast voted another way. Now that the North East Coast doesn't have the dominant football teams(in general) maybe you could argue it has a southern bias.

 

[dwid]

What a joke. Griffin won. He can join Troy Smith! Seriously though, his ceiling is Jeff Blake. The Moon Ball part 2.

 

[Deadlift]

This Uncle Tom is going to get destroyed by large NFL defenders, and I can't wait.

The pro-Griffin propaganda is all about insinuating that opponents fear him (the same exact hype that surrounded ConVick last year, and it continued even when Chicago, Dallas and Minnesota found the "formula" to dismantle Philly!).. so tell that to Ryan Tannehill, Brandon Weeden and Collin Klein. Tell that to awful Kansas who made a game of it.

 

[dwid]

Thats right, not only did he lose 3 games by an average of 19 points, he barely won over an awful Kansas, going into overtime when Kansas failed to convert a two point conversion. I don't know about getting destroyed by defenders but he will never come close to the hype. Like I said, I think his ceiling is Jeff Blake, enough to start for a while and bounce around the league. The MSM still hasn't found their black qb savior. Maybe next year, I haven't seen any promising ones though. Amazing when they try desperately to pump so many into the system.

 

[bigunreal]

Wow- that was quick work. What was this- a one week campaign? If this kind of nonsensical vote doesn't make all informed fans understand how the media manipulates things, with an overt agenda, I don't know what will.

Cam Newton's numbers, which are probably going to dwarf those of most rookie QBs before him, is the absolute worst thing that could have happened to those who seek a level playing field and an end to the Caste System. This latest black "sensation" is the tip of the iceberg. From now on, any black QB who can possibly, in any way at all, be overhyped, will be overhyped as only the msm can overhype.

It was a travesty when Peyton Manning didn't win the Heisman. It was a travesty when Toby Gerhart didn't win it, and it's a travesty that Andrew Luck didn't win it. In each case, they were unquestionably the top college football player, and more deserving than the blacks that won it.

 

[Deadlift]

Griffin isn't winning the Heisman, even the troll knows that. It will be one of the guys playing in the BCS games. He won the Davey O'Brien trophy and that is all he is going to win. The voters make the trophy the unofficial MVP trophy of college football. It's only in extremely rare cases that player on a non contending team wins the award.

Keep it mind, this same system was pushing Russell Wilson, Geno Smith and Tajh Boyd as Heisman candidates not that long ago. If South Florida didn't collapse after their early cupcake schedule, they would have pushed incompetent B.J. Daniels, too.

I suggested around 2-years ago that Griffin would go no lower than the 2nd round of the NFL Draft. On one hand, the MSM might want to give the impression that he suddenly dropped from the heavens as a SENIOR to be Baylor's QB.. On the other hand, they know full-well that they've been "creating" him from the day he stepped on campus. What does this all mean?

First off, a most definite underachiever has the Heisman now, and it renders the trophy even more meaningless. Second, Brandon Weeden, from the Big 12s most accomplished team, needs to win his Bowl game against Stanford. This may not be the matchup I wanted, but the Brandon Weeden story needs to end with a W. He'll have even more motivation now.

 

[white is right]

I thought with Griffin winning the Davey Obrien and Luck winning the Maxwell and Walter Camp awards(the two other MVP awards) there would be no way that Griffin would win the "most valuable" off season award. It looks like Historian was right again.....

 

[bigunreal]

Skip Bayless was Griffin's biggest cheerlader in the media. Ever since assuming the role of Tebow's lone defender among the jock sniffers, this odious fool has denigrated virtually all other white players, as if in penance for that. He has railed constantly against Eric Decker, and also managed to take a nasty swipe at Riley Cooper.

Griffin seems to have an even more appropriate "look" than Newton, in terms of what our corrupt overlords are looking for. The idea that he is even in the same league with Luck is completely ridiculous.

 

[sport historian]

I thought with Griffin winning the Davey Obrien and Luck winning the Maxwell and Walter Camp awards(the two other MVP awards) there would be no way that Griffin would win the "most valuable" off season award. It looks like Historian was right again.....

When Bayless said he was voting for Griffin, it meant it was going in that direction. The general concensus in the MSM was Luck didn't have a "Heisman Moment."

 

[white is right]

Did RGIII have a Heisman moment ? I don't recall anything.....

 

[Deadlift]

Did RGIII have a Heisman moment ? I don't recall anything.....

Supposedly Oklahoma and Texas represented "unbeatable" obstacles.. and, here's a big one, we are supposed to think that Baylor can't recruit talent. This is patently absurd.

Heck, look at their mostly coal-black basketball team, full of "4 and 5 star" players.. why are they going to "Baylor?" How is this possible?

 

[bearclaw500]

So now the big question. Which of the following teams is going to pick RG III in the first round?

1. Washington Redskins
2. Oakland Raiders
3. Seattle Seahawks

 

[Leonardfan]

Griffin winning was the worst kept secret of the past month. I didn't bother watching the awards show, its a shame Luck gets screwed over once again. Next step is to have all the media shills and talking heads make all the DWFs believe Griffin is a better prospect than Luck and he will end up going number 1 overall. I won't be surprised if it happens.

I never really saw a "heisman" moment from Griffin on a 9-3 Baylor team, he plays in a conference where any competent QB puts up very good numbers if the team runs a spread offense. They fail to mention the fact that he does have a very good WR that is able to get behind defenses so he can just throw the ball deep. Hell, the most memorable play Griffin made vs Oklahoma was that lucky long TD on a pass deflection that miraculously dropped into the hands of Kendall Wright who ran it for the long TD. If that is what makes a "Heisman" moment I'd say its time to scrap that award.

 

[GiovaniMarcon]

The media, politicians, and all other members of the PTB have "successfully" ingrained a belief — to the point that it's nearly instinctive — in Whites that any acknowledgement of White achievement and any rewarding of a White person per this superiority is seen as racist and a "good ol' boy" snub to the darkie who really plays the violin better.

Even if it's totally obvious the Black person is nowhere near the talent of the White person, it's still racist to give an award to a White person.

That's just the way things are right now, and a lot of White guys go right along with it, because they and their dads have been conditioned to see things from the perspective of gay males.

 

[JReb1]

RGIII = Andre Ware II!

Luck will still go #1 to Indy (IMHO) but I wouldn't be surprised if the future bust RG3 goes in the top 10 now and ends up 2nd on the heisman flops list...

http://espn.go.com/page2/s/list/heisman/flops.html

 

[sport historian]

Did RGIII have a Heisman moment ? I don't recall anything.....

The MSM types consider Griffin's highlight film plays to be Heisman moments.

 

[TheAnimal]

Skip Bayless was Griffin's biggest cheerlader in the media. Ever since assuming the role of Tebow's lone defender among the jock sniffers, this odious fool has denigrated virtually all other white players, as if in penance for that. He has railed constantly against Eric Decker, and also managed to take a nasty swipe at Riley Cooper.

Griffin seems to have an even more appropriate "look" than Newton, in terms of what our corrupt overlords are looking for. The idea that he is even in the same league with Luck is completely ridiculous.

Self imposed penance perhaps. Bayless has always been a self apologetic, bow before the bruthas Liberal queer.

 

[Don Wassall]

They're all liberal queers on the corporate media these days. It's impossible to be a part of The System without being one or pretending to be one, except for "women" of course, who must be more "manly" than the so-called "men." It was much like this right before the USSR fell, in that almost no one believed in the lies propagated by The System.