HBO's Great Black Hopes

[Frenchnative]

Yes, the next great black hope that HBO will try to push on the masses is Quillin. Luckly McEwan has an excellent chance to detrail their next black hope project.

Winner of this fight will instantly be a top Six middleweight contender with eyes on Sergio Martinez.

Quillin looked poor in his last fight against journeyman Jason Le Houiller. The fight was stopped after the 5th round for Le Houiller not throwing anything but Quillin didn't hurt him and showed lots of flaws.

 

[whiteathlete33]

What in the hell is the deal with Guillermo Jones? I understand he's a Don King fighter so it seems as the racist King is protecting him. Since winning the title in September of 2008 he's had only one fight and it was against Valery Brudov. Now this will only be his second defense in November and they stick him in with a bum like Mike Marrone. What isn't he fighting top contenders. Looks like Don King is back to his old tricks.

 

[white is right]

King in the past has put his lower tier champions on ice if they can't make him good money. I recall a few other King promoted cruiserweight champions never getting fights. As for Jones he was a junior middleweight contender in the mid to late 90's, he has only risen to cruiserweight because of slovenly behaviour, also because he is King promoted he has been protected by the WBA from mandatory challengers ie King has bribed the Venezuelan controlled WBA. :thumbdown:

 

[whiteathlete33]

King in the past has put his lower tier champions on ice if they can't make him good money. I recall a few other King promoted cruiserweight champions never getting fights. As for Jones he was a junior middleweight contender in the mid to late 90's, he has only risen to cruiserweight because of slovenly behaviour, also because he is King promoted he has been protected by the WBA from mandatory challengers ie King has bribed the Venezuelan controlled WBA. :thumbdown:

Jones needs to fight legit white fighters and defend his title regularly. They let him sit for years with that title before he fought Brudov. He's one of the few black champs left in the heavier divisions so I'm guessing this is all part of their plan.

 

[whiteathlete33]

The latest black supastar Austin Trout fights today and defends his title against a guy who I think is white in Frank Loporto. I've never heard of this Loporto guy but he doesn't have a good record and I don't expect him to win. The fight is at junior middleweight.

 

[Westside]

The latest black supastar Austin Trout fights today and defends his title against a guy who I think is white in Frank Loporto. I've never heard of this Loporto guy but he doesn't have a good record and I don't expect him to win. The fight is at junior middleweight.

The tribe at showtime is defineatly pissed about the new world order regarding Whites dominating from 160 to heavyweights. Tonight they offered a sacrafacial lamb in the name of Loporto to Trout. Loporto has to be one of the worst boxers I have seen on any premium cable channel. Needless to say he was TKO'd in the 6th. I suppose Showtime is attempting to "right the ship" by matching their affelets with beyond easy white touches, to erroneously show that affelets still dominate. When the truth is, Its just a facade. Basic propaganda of the castesystem.

 

[space hillbilly]

The tribe at showtime is defineatly pissed about the new world order regarding Whites dominating from 160 to heavyweights. Tonight they offered a sacrafacial lamb in the name of Loporto to Trout. Loporto has to be one of the worst boxers I have seen on any premium cable channel. Needless to say he was TKO'd in the 6th. I suppose Showtime is attempting to "right the ship" by matching their affelets with beyond easy white touches, to erroneously show that affelets still dominate. When the truth is, Its just a facade. Basic propaganda of the castesystem.

You nailed it Westside! What little TV I watch I see their still pushing the "White guys can't fight" propaganda.
And its become so transparent over the past few years.

Looking over Trout's record, I can find no Eastern European names, talk about protecting!!
HBO and Showtime are sinking their own ship, fans have always just wanted to see the best fights and fighters regardless of race. But the media are now showing their true colors!

 

[whiteathlete33]

What a nice little padded record this guy Trout has. He hasn't even beaten any good Hispanic or black US fighters yet he's somehow a "title" holder. Rest assured he'll be protected for a while to ensure he keeps his little paper title though in the end he'll have to fight legit competition.

 

[space hillbilly]

What a nice little padded record this guy Trout has. He hasn't even beaten any good Hispanic or black US fighters yet he's somehow a "title" holder. Rest assured he'll be protected for a while to ensure he keeps his little paper title though in the end he'll have to fight legit competition.

How in the H**L did LoPorto get a title fight?!?! He's ranked #55 by Boxrec. The head's at Showtime clearly had to look high and low to find a white figher this bad. I guess they just don't want another Pirog vs Jacobs moment again!

 

[whiteathlete33]

How in the H**L did LoPorto get a title fight?!?! He's ranked #55 by Boxrec. The head's at Showtime clearly had to look high and low to find a white figher this bad. I guess they just don't want another Pirog vs Jacobs moment again!

I know. It's ridiculous. It's the same thing with Guillermo Jones fighting pushover Mike Marrone last weekend. None of the the good Europeans are getting title shots.

 

[Charles Martel]

The latest "Great Black Hope" Seth Mitchell will be on HBO Dec 10.

Of course HBO doesn't mind showing heavyweights, as long the fighters being showcased are negroes.

Mitchell's opponent will be Timur Ibragimov, who is coming off a loss and hasn't fought in a year.

Interesting that they would never have a good young white heavyweight on HBO fighting Mitchell, someone who would beat him like Helenius, Glazkov, Pulev, Boytsov, etc.

Instead they choose someone like Timur, who has been defeated by three negroes in the past (Brock, Thompson and Mormeck).

Greenburg the Jewish Supremacist is gone from HBO, but they still have his negro associate Kery Davis making the decisions until the end of the year.

 

[Westside]

Well just viewed HBO's newest black hope, Bronner. To be fair he has some ability. He won a WBO trinket from a limited fighter. Now the MSM boxing media onslaught of the next great affeletic fighter will begin, and won't stop till he loses. ESPN boxing writer(not Raphael) is already calling this affelet the next gold standard. PLease!

He fights similar to gayweather. Now I will just hope when he fights a crafty good Latin fighter that he will get clocked, much like P. Williams bubble getting popped a year ago.

 

[Frenchnative]

Broner's already been exposed by Ponce De leon, in the meantime HBO tries to make him look good against semi professional Whites and Lats.

I saw the Russell Jr fight against a mexican journeyman last night, and the so called "knock out" was a fix job. Fact is, on boxing websites or forums, people had been talking about his lack of power and now he delivers the 1st KO of his career to revive the hype ? Please...

Not saying they're not good boxers, but they're not what HBO's been trying to sell the public.

 

[Charles Martel]

The Jews at The Ring website sure have been all over Broner's nuts. If a white fighter defeated a journeyman for a vacant title they would be putting him down.

http://ringtv.craveonline.com/blog/170359-broner-stops-rodriguez-to-win-vacant-title

And the black supremacists, self-loathing wiggers and negro-loving homosexuals on ESB and boxingscene are going overboard with their hero-worship and proclaiming Broner to be the next top P4P boxer.

 

[whiteathlete33]

The next black hope at heavyweight, Seth Mitchell, fights Timor Ibragimov today. I sure hope Timor can pull out the win and expose Mitchell. Some of the DWF's are claiming Mitchell will be heavyweight champion but there are at least 20 or so European heavyweights that can destroy him.

 

[white is right]

Mitchell beat cannon fodder Igbragimov. Igbragimov doesn't punch hard enough to earn a top 10 heavyweights respect and isn't slick enough to get away with his lack of power. Mitchell looks like a decent prospect, but he is far from a top ten fighter. Without surviving a chin check or even being taken into deep waters who knows what he is made of. The White Wolf would have been a better measuring stick.

 

[Charles Martel]

Mitchell beat cannon fodder Igbragimov. Igbragimov doesn't punch hard enough to earn a top 10 heavyweights respect and isn't slick enough to get away with his lack of power. Mitchell looks like a decent prospect, but he is far from a top ten fighter. Without surviving a chin check or even being taken into deep waters who knows what he is made of. The White Wolf would have been a better measuring stick.

Mitchell will be good cannon fodder for the Klitschkos before they retire. :smiley:

He's decent, but he'll lose when he fights a top European heavyweight.

I was never big on Timur, although I was a fan of Sultan Ibragimov. And you're right - he doesn't have enough power to keep the strongest opponents off him, and he wasn't working his jab very well tonight.

 

[Westside]

Well just read ESPN's recap of another robbery towards the end of the year. Dan Raphael and HBO's had Khan winning 114 to 111 in favor of Perterson. He said it was an action fight, however, the dirty ref penalized Khan twice without ever giving him a warning. I have not viewed the fight, but will on the replays.

Khan made 3 mistakes. 1. Fighting in corrupt negro town Washington DC. 2. Not using his established leverage to pick the referee. 3. Same as number 2, did not use his leverage to pick judges to his liking. He f'd up, now there is a 2nd teir HBO affeletic fighter with half of the 140 crown. Hopefully there will be a rematch soon, and justice restored.

I guess its sorta pay back for Cisora robbery in some eyes.

 

[Frenchnative]

Mitchell is trash, i saw the fight and it looked like Ibragimov waited to get hit repeatedly by Mitchell's right hand. It took several of them to rock Timur then he landed another one on an open Ibragimov to eventually get a stoppage. The usual HBO bullcrap, Mitchell has no future anyway.

 

[BoxingSpecialist2]

Just watched the Seth Mitchell TKO 2 Timur Ibragimov fight on youtube right now.

Couple of comments.

- Round 1 was very close, in my opinion Ibragimov actually landed the better punches. Mitchell started the round well and aggressively, but Ibragimov began landing 3 or 4 precise right hands and some nice jabs. Ibragimov was using precise punching effectively in round 1 and was largely able to land cleaner shots and outbox Mitchell. Mitchell was simply overwhelming Ibragimov with wild, mauling type punches. All in all it was an even round, coulda went either way.

- Round 2 saw Mitchell's power and aggressiveness get to Ibragimov. Credit where its due, Mitchell won the fight and showed good power and attack. But I was disappointed with Ibragimov. I feel Timur could have given a better account of himself. That being said, Timur is a non-puncher and that contributed to why he was unable to keep Mitchell off him.

- CONCLUSION. Mitchell is a mauling, brawling type fighter with pretty good aggressiveness and power. But he is WIDE OPEN to being hit by punches and outboxed. Seth Mitchell is a brawler with NO DEFENSE and NO MOVEMENT. That will not, I guarantee you, carry him far with championship level fighters. Keep in mind that Ibragimov is a non-puncher, so those right hands landed in round 1 and 2, from a different boxer WOULD HAVE HURT MITCHELL.

Seth Mitchell is a perfect candidate to get knocked out by a boxer-puncher, due to his absence of a defense. Mitchell might be a tough guy, and he may even take a good punch. But NOBODY becomes a champion without defense.

You just CANNOT leave yourself open to punches like that. Against Timur Ibragimov its OK, and Mitchell won the fight. But it would NOT work against guys like Klitschko's, Haye, even someone like Cris Arreola.

In my opinion,
Wlad Klitschko
Vitali Klitschko
David Haye
Robert Helenius
Alex Povetkin

would all certainly beat Seth Mitchell by KO.

As a final point, its no surprise HBO is riding Seth Mitchell so hard. HBO gives every possible advantage and easy fights to Black American stars, even when these fighters are crap (ie Mitchell, Danny Jacobs, Andre Berto, Gary Russell Jr, Adrien Broner). Yet HBO doesnt give European fighters the time of day, or even white American fighters have to take the hard road to big fights (ie Pavlik's HBO debut in 50/50 fight with Miranda, HBO using Litzau as an "opponent" to Caballero, Guerrero)

 

[BoxingSpecialist2]

The usual HBO bullcrap,

Pretty much sums up the fight.

HBO showcasing another average, B level, Golden-Boy Promoted black American fighter and trying to pass it off as "The Next Great Black Boxer" to a white American audience that is dumb enough to fall for it.

That plan failed miserably with Danny Jacobs when he was brutally KO'd by Russian Pirog on HBO PPV in Summer 2010.

In all seriousness, Mitchell is a tough, strong guy, but guess what? You need a defense, boxing ability, ring intelligence to succeed at higher levels in the sport. he might punch hard, but so do a lot of guys (ie Haye, Klitschko's, Helenius). You need DEFENSE and Boxing ability as well.

I feel very strongly that Mitchell will never be a champion and I just hope HBO covers the fight when he goes to Germany and gets KO'd by a better European boxer. Make no mistake, thats where his career is headed.

Seth Mitchell has no defense, is wayyyyyyyyyyyy too easy to hit. He is begging to be knocked out by a guy who can box and punch hard (ie Klitschko's, Helenius, even David Haye would KO this guy badly).

It would be nice if so many American fans get behind Seth Mitchell and then watch him get KTFO by a Euro boxer!

 

[Frenchnative]

As for Khan, he began fast knocking Peterson down in the 1st then he looked weak and vulnerable while Peterson started chasing him targeting the body but Khan still deserved the win. He messed Peterson's face up.
The black ref deducted Khan two points for pushing and hitting after a break, thanks to that, his coloured brover got a SD 113-112 X2 :usa: (other judge had it 115-111 Khan)
I didn't think these crooks would have the stomach to strip a cash cow like Khan off his two titles.


I'd like Mathysse to get a titleshot, Peterson's new titles are there to be picked, Mathysse has to knock this fuc*er out or he'll be robbed for the 3rd time.

 

[space hillbilly]

As for Khan, he began fast knocking Peterson down in the 1st then he looked weak and vulnerable while Peterson started chasing him targeting the body but Khan still deserved the win. He messed Peterson's face up.
The black ref deducted Khan two points for pushing and hitting after a break, thanks to that, his coloured brover got a SD 113-112 X2 :usa: (other judge had it 115-111 Khan)
I didn't think these crooks would have the stomach to strip a cash cow like Khan off his two titles.


I'd like Mathysse to get a titleshot, Peterson's new titles are there to be picked, Mathysse has to knock this fuc*er out or he'll be robbed for the 3rd time.

Khan lost two points for pushing, but George Foreman made a career out of pushing his smaller opponents back..

 

[Westside]

Well just viewed the Khan v Peterson fight. I had Khan winning with the 2 bogus point deductions by 2 points. 4 without. Khan let over confidence and arrogance get the better of him by allowing himself to fight in DC. Also, by allowing some unknown negro ref in the fight. Dumb, Dumb.

Peterson fought well with courage and heart, but he lost, plain and simple. The HBO crew including Kellerman thought Khan got jobed.

I understand there is talk about a rematch. Khan wins the rematch much easier.

 

[whiteathlete33]

Well just viewed the Khan v Peterson fight. I had Khan winning with the 2 bogus point deductions by 2 points. 4 without. Khan let over confidence and arrogance get the better of him by allowing himself to fight in DC. Also, by allowing some unknown negro ref in the fight. Dumb, Dumb.

Peterson fought well with courage and heart, but he lost, plain and simple. The HBO crew including Kellerman thought Khan got jobed.

I understand there is talk about a rematch. Khan wins the rematch much easier.

Westside, I'm no fan of Khan as he's obviously not white and also because he took Kotelnik's belt. That being said, of course I wanted Khan to win against supa afflete Peterson. It seems like there are quite a few good black boxers left but only in the lighter divisions.