greatest Cardinal QB

[Average American]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZWMGOt6j7I

Warner had the most successful single season in Cards history.. but Hart is probably the greatest Cards QB (?)
I thought this (linked Youtube clip) was a nice, succinct tribute to the guy. He was a little before my time,.. I also remember first-hand Lomax having some good years, & the season Esiason was out in the desert, he had a game where he went off on the 'Skins.

Plummer gets an honorable mention, no (?)

 

[Awake in America]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZWMGOt6j7I

Warner had the most successful single season in Cards history.. but Hart is probably the greatest Cards QB (?)
I thought this (linked Youtube clip) was a nice, succinct tribute to the guy. He was a little before my time,.. I also remember first-hand Lomax having some good years, & the season Esiason was out in the desert, he had a game where he went off on the 'Skins.

Plummer gets an honorable mention, no (?)

"Greatest QB in Cardinal history" is a little bit like "Tallest building in Omaha, NE." That said, I was a kid in the 70s, and Jim Hart was a fantastic QB. That offense was really strong in the mid-70s, putting up passing numbers that were phenomenal back then. It's amazing when you look at the star QBs from that era. A lot of them came from small schools, yet they are ones that ushered in the pass happy era we are still seeing.

 

[Average American]

"Greatest QB in Cardinal history" is a little bit like "Tallest building in Omaha, NE." That said, I was a kid in the 70s, and Jim Hart was a fantastic QB..

(chuckle)..fair enough

would cream of the crap go:
1.Hart, 2.Warner, 3.Lomax (?)

I actually think Plummer had a lot of potential, but ultimately spent too much time on his back. I remember the year Plummer-led Cards went into Dallas & got a playoff win. There was a lot of promise for his career, & he seemed liked one of the good guys in pro sports. There was a nice profile on him in SI a year or two back about his current life as a high school coach & family man.. anyways.

 

[jaxvid]

(chuckle)..fair enough

would cream of the crap go:
1.Hart, 2.Warner, 3.Lomax (?)

I actually think Plummer had a lot of potential, but ultimately spent too much time on his back. I remember the year Plummer-led Cards went into Dallas & got a playoff win. There was a lot of promise for his career, & he seemed liked one of the good guys in pro sports. There was a nice profile on him in SI a year or two back about his current life as a high school coach & family man.. anyways.

This would be a good thread for sports_historian to comment on since he probably saw a lot of Jim Hart back in the day. I don't remember him all that well even though I followed the game for virtually all of his career. What I do remember is that he threw a very tight spiral and was good but not flashy or spectacular.

I think it's difficult to compare Jim Hart with Kurt Warner. Jim Hart played for St. Louis for 17 seasons and was one of the more accomplished QB's of his era. I think the fact that he played so long on some poor Cardinal teams indicates that he was not the reason they didn't do well. The mid-1970 Cardinals were very good however and he had some stellar seasons. Although the team never advanced in the playoffs.

Kurt Warner had some very good years with the Rams, coincidentally also in St. Louis, and ended his career playing for 4 years with the Cardinals, only a couple of them in a major role, and of course took the team to the Super Bowl.

So Warner is probably remembered fondly for getting the team to the big game unlike Jim Hart, who played so long and so well as a Cardinal but never got to the big one.

Actually I'm not sure how the home town fans think of sports franchises that have split time between cities. Do the current fans feel the previous cities team is part of their own legacy? Do the fans in the city of the original city follow or care in any way about the history of the "new" version of the team? Especially as in St. Louis where they got another team not long after. I imagine the city of St. Louis remembers Jim Hart fondly, as they do Kurt Warner who had success there with another team. In Arizona I imagine they like Warner and don't give a rat's ass about Hart?

 

[white is right]

This would be a good thread for sports_historian to comment on since he probably saw a lot of Jim Hart back in the day. I don't remember him all that well even though I followed the game for virtually all of his career. What I do remember is that he threw a very tight spiral and was good but not flashy or spectacular.

I think it's difficult to compare Jim Hart with Kurt Warner. Jim Hart played for St. Louis for 17 seasons and was one of the more accomplished QB's of his era. I think the fact that he played so long on some poor Cardinal teams indicates that he was not the reason they didn't do well. The mid-1970 Cardinals were very good however and he had some stellar seasons. Although the team never advanced in the playoffs.

Kurt Warner had some very good years with the Rams, coincidentally also in St. Louis, and ended his career playing for 4 years with the Cardinals, only a couple of them in a major role, and of course took the team to the Super Bowl.

So Warner is probably remembered fondly for getting the team to the big game unlike Jim Hart, who played so long and so well as a Cardinal but never got to the big one.

Actually I'm not sure how the home town fans think of sports franchises that have split time between cities. Do the current fans feel the previous cities team is part of their own legacy? Do the fans in the city of the original city follow or care in any way about the history of the "new" version of the team? Especially as in St. Louis where they got another team not long after. I imagine the city of St. Louis remembers Jim Hart fondly, as they do Kurt Warner who had success there with another team. In Arizona I imagine they like Warner and don't give a rat's ass about Hart?

the Cardinals have one hall of fame qb, Irish American Paddy Driscoll he is on the all 1920's team. So by the that historical fact he is the greatest Cardinal qb ever. For practical purposes for anybody living it has to be Jim Hart who has borderline hall of fame numbers. I agree asking about the greatest qb is like asking which Biggest Loser female contestant has the sexiest body....