Great players I watched when growing up

Frank Howard has passed away.
A literal giant in baseball.
 
I remember Frank Howard hitting a long HR for the Dodgers in the 4th game of the 1963 World Series to help them beat the Yankees. Sixty years ago.

I recall a long HR by him in the 1969 All Star Game. Both I saw on TV. With Frank Howard the home runs were always long.
 
He wasn't a superstar and may not even qualify as great, but Elroy Face has passed just a few days short of his 98th birthday. Face set the MLB record for career wins by a reliever with 104 (which was eventually passed by Hoyt Wilhelm and now stands at 124) and the NL mark for wins in a season by a relief pitcher when he went a remarkable 18-1 in 1959 for the Pirates, who went 76-74 that season. He was a premier closer in the 1950s and '60s.

Face had a modest 191 career saves but he pitched at a time when relievers, including closers, often pitched more than an inning, sometimes several, which is why he won a lot of games. He played 16 years and pitched in 848 games. RIP

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I remember Elroy Face. He was a famous player in 1959-60 when he went 18-1 in 1959 and the Pirates won the NL Pennant and beat the Yankees in an exciting World Series in 1960.

I saw him in person at a Pirates-Reds game at Crosley Field in 1968. Face relieved Bob Veale but blew the save. The Pirates won in the 12th inning.
 
Hall of Fame member Bill Mazeroski, widely regarded as the best fielding second baseman in baseball history, has died at the age of 89. He's best known for his bottom of the ninth home run in Game 7 of the 1960 World Series that lifted the Pirates over the heavily favored Yankees.

"Maz" was always a humble man who shunned the spotlight and lived the rest of his life in a middle class Pittsburgh neighborhood. He's one of the most beloved players in Pirates history. There's been a statue of Bill Mazeroski outside PNC Park since 2010. RIP

 
I was rooting for the Yankees and saw it on TV.

I saw Bill Mazeroski play in person in 1968 in a Pirates-Reds game at old Crosley Field. I'll never forget Mazeroski turning a double play, fast and smooth.
 
I agree. I loved baseball as a kid to the nth degree, from playing it to absorbing everything about its history. I had zillions of baseball cards, listened to just about every Pirates game on the radio when zany/beloved Bob Prince was the play by play announcer, bought every magazine and book I could, and wallpapered my room with pictures of baseball players I liked. I could tell you the pennant winners and batting champions and the rest of the trivia for both leagues going back to the beginning of the 20th century and even the late 19th century (before the American League was formed in 1901).

Now there's little I recognize about it and have no interest at all in following it. Fundamentals have been discarded and replaced by little more than strikeouts and homeruns, it's been completely corporatized and thus hollowed out and corrupted like everything else in society, and of course is filled with the obligatory identity politics and Caste policies, mostly elevating hispanics and Orientals as the short heyday black Americans had in the sport in the 1960s and '70s ain't coming back. And TV tries to make it palatable to the short attention span of dumbed-down America, which makes it an even worse product as the beauty of baseball used to be in the deliberately paced unveiling of a game and the myriad of strategies that took place as it unfolded.
I had a very similar childhood in Cleveland- pick-up games at the end of our street, hitting grounders and fly balls to each other at the local park, baseball card collecting and trading, and listening to the ballgame at night.

Agree entirely w/ your second paragraph.
 
Your last paragraph analyzes it perfectly, Don. "The short attention span of dumbed-down America" says it all and so much more about where our country is in these latter days of ignorance, poor taste, cancel culture, and just about everything else we could name that's so wrong in the America of today. And "the deliberately paced unveiling of a game" with "myriad strategies" (the steal, double steal, hit-and-run, drag bunt, sacrifice bunt, intelligent and timely choice of a reliever, etc.) that created the wonderful mental aspect of the old game.

Like you, I grew up eagerly studying the historical record book. As an 11-year-old I was able to order a paperback copy of the Encyclopedia of Baseball (two White Owl Cigar labels required, courtesy of Dad) and I pored over that volume for endless hours each summer vacation, amazed that Ty Cobb could hit .400 three times and that Ruth once hit .600 in a World Series. Summer was baseball fantasyland for the kids in my neighborhood. We'd play sandlot ball by day and listen to Harry Caray broadcast Cardinal games at night over KMOX, St. Louis (I often fell asleep with my transistor radio beside me as I listened in bed). I'd even occasionally pick up the Pirates if weather conditions were right over KDKH radio, if I remember the call letters right (that's a long way from Mobile). My favorite Bob Prince story came from the habit Prince had of inviting some friend up to the booth while he called the game. One such time he was conversing with one such guy when an enormous roar erupted over the airwaves. Prince, completely nonplussed, then said, "Well, we've certainly enjoyed talking with my old friend Joe Blow. And by the way, that roar you hear in the background was for Bob Skinner, who just hit a grand slam home run." I'm sure you have more funny stories about Prince.

As a kid I'd frequently go to double-A ballgames of the Southern Association at the late, great Hartwell Field where the Cleveland-affiliated Mobile Bears played. It was just seedy enough to be fascinating to my young eyes. There was an old foundry just beyond the right field fence, and I was much taken by the flickering foundry lights flaring all through the night. Railroad tracks ran between the right field wall and the foundry, and about 8:00 each night some long freight train would come lumbering by, shaking the ballpark and blaring its whistle at us. I always hoped a Mobile player might blast a homer into the hopper car, but I never saw it happen. Black folks were allowed into the ballpark but were only allowed to sit in a faded bleacher section way down the left field line and were forbidden from coming anywhere near the all-white grandstand area or from buying any refreshments under the stands.

All this was back before the advent of horribly concussive music at the ballpark, and I reveled in the sounds of baseball: the pop of the big pitcher's fastball in the mitt, the cry of the vendors: "Peanuts! Get your fresh hot peanuts!" and "Cold beer, ICE cold beer!" I loved the constant infield chatter and the little two-note whistle of the shortstop, all constantly encouraging the pitcher. As darkness fell over the field I'd look around and see all the men lighting up, their cigarette and cigar tips glowing like little orange fireflies all across the dark stands, overhung by a large wooden roof. The whole scene produced almost a cozy, intimate feeling, the shielding roof blocking out city sounds while magnifying ballpark sounds back to us, and all of us sitting there rooting together for the Bears. No women came to minor-league ballparks in those days so we were mercifully spared their gabble.

On very hot afternoons at home a friend and I would sit at my kitchen table and play a game you may remember called APBA baseball, a game which had individual playing cards for every player, realistically duplicating their strengths and weaknesses. I learned about the game from an ad in the old Street & Smith's baseball magazine so I mailed off for it and was delirious with joy when I saw the game's contents. When we played, my pal would always take the Milwaukee Braves and I'd take Musial and the Cardinals. One game he pitched Spahn for all 18 innings of a close game. When Musial hit a homer in the 19th to win it 2-1 for me, my friend brought his fist down hard on the Spahn card yelling, "Spahn, you bum! I should have taken you out ten innings ago." I responded cooly, "That's what I told you. You wore his arm out." Little did we know at the time that Spahn would come very close in real life to duplicating that kitchen-table performance (losing to Marichal in 16 innings, 1-0, I believe). I never tired of APBA baseball.


The Greatest Trade in Baseball History

If we weren't playing real baseball or APBA baseball, we'd be trading baseball cards, mostly TOPPS cards, though an occasional Bowman might find its way in. In 1957, the year following Mickey Mantle's magnum opus year, I found the Mick's card in a pack I'd bought at the grocery. A tremendous find, of course, with all Mantle's glittering 1956 stats sparkling on the reverse, and a great photo of him swinging the bat in follow-through posture. Even so, I wasn't a Yankee fan, but a good friend of mine was. In fact he had a whole fistful of Yankee cards, wrapped tightly in a worn-out rubber band. But he didn't have Mantle, not the 1957 Mantle. And that's how the great trade came about. I walked eagerly over to his house with the most daring proposal in baseball history on my mind and the Mantle card held deftly in my hand, for he had something I desperately wanted, a card I had never had in any edition.

"Hey, Jimmy," I said. "You're not gonna guess whose card I got today."
"Another Kaline? You already have three of them."
"No," I replied, "not Kaline. Somebody better than Kaline."
"Mays?"
"No, somebody even better than Mays."
"Well, lemme see it then." So at that moment I held up the Mantle card.
"Oh!" he yelled. "Where did you get it?"
"Would you like to have it, Jimmy?"
"Of course I would!" he screamed. "I haven't had a bit of luck with Mantle this year."
"Well, if you want to make a great trade, you have Ted, I believe."
"Ted who?"
"Ted... you know Ted," I smiled slyly.
"Aw," he grinned.

And that is how Mickey Mantle was traded for Ted Williams, the greatest trade in baseball history, whether of real players or cardboard ones. And I still have that 1957 Ted Williams card, hanging in a framed wall display along with 1952 Bowman Musial and 1960 Fleer cards of Ty Cobb, Babe Ruth, Honus Wagner, and Cy Young. Sounds more impressive than it is because these are fairly common cards, but they are worth more to me than the few dollars they'd fetch at sale.

I seriously miss the old game.
Such a well-written post. Is Shamrock still around?
 
Posters leave for various reasons. I was just re-reading this thread and it has a lot of topnotch posts and interesting memories.

In one of Shamrock's posts he said he graduated from high school in 1967, which means he's in his later 70s now. Age and related factors could be why he's not posting anymore but of course that's just speculation.
 
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