God help us all!

[Don Wassall]

Don, I suppose this is in response to my posts?

My responses are consistently in favor of freedom, and pointing out the various ways, subtle and not so subtle, we keep losing it.

If there is a choice between having armed guards patrolling every school, and the one in a million chance of a student or students being shot in an unpatrolled school, I'll take the choice that doesn't turn schools into even more of a prison than they already are. Arming schools only prepares kids better than they're already being prepared, to be good little unquestioning drones in the Amerikan police and surveillance state.

I read about how every new car will soon have alcohol detecting ignition devices to go along with "black boxes." Sure, why not? Let's have surveillance cameras on every block and in every house, 30,000 drones in the air, random roadblocks, and all the other "new" trappings of "freedom." After all, government must eliminate any and every possibility of someone being accidentally hurt or killed. That of course is an impossibility but it's the mentality inculcated by the system, into which most Americans readily buy. Watch your neighbors, even as children watch their parents. Snitches and entrappers are around by the millions, even as the U.S. prison complex continues to expand.

Forced multiracialism and multiculturalism are the main enablers of the total surveillance state, but it's taboo or "racist" to even acknowledge the existence of the root causes of the country's plight (not taboo here of course). After all, everyone knows "diversity is our strength" and "democracy" (idiocracy), which was explicitly rejected by the Founders, is sacred. Giving government at all levels more and more power in response to problems they continue to create is the same as the Federal Reserve "printing" trillions and trillions of more "borrowed" dollars to give to the banksters and expecting the U.S. economy to somehow "grow" and create wealth and jobs when all that money isn't being used to create anything of value.

 

[Menelik]

You're making a straw man argument. No one here denies that police prescense is a good thing if they are hanging around the parking lot or stopping by. The danger is to create some massive bureacracy that would put cops in force in every school in the country.

There are lots of schools, probably thousands that already have armed security and even things like metal detectors in them. They are there because events have already proven that those schools are at risk for needing that type of monitoring. Most schools do not. To insist that those schools that are not at risk become armed camps because of the freak incident at this one school is over reaction.

Most of the schools down here, south GA, usually have 1 resource officer who is usually a deputy. And the schools that I am personnaly aware of have no major OR minor, other then the usual kids fighting, violence problems. I can see the costs, up north, becoming an issue. Bottom line IMHO trying to guard against these type incidents is next to impossible in our present form of government and society.

 

[FootballDad]

I agree with both Don and Truthteller on this issue. Security, by way of of off-duty cops, private security, or simply training teachers is something that all schools should look at, especially considering our dysfunctional culture. However it should be a completely local issue, decided by the people affected. The issue as it is being set forth by politicians and the media is to nationalize the issue, which would, indeed, augment the police state that is rapidly being assembled.

 

[Freethinker]

I second that Football Dad.

 

[Kaptain]

What's missing from the national discussion on schools and school shootings is the violent criminal culture kids are trapped in during every school day. If politicians really wanted to reduce crime in school they would get rid of the criminals walking the hallways - dah. We have kids with ankle bracelets going to class and playing football (with the bracelet) while a honor roll student would get kicked off for being rumored to be at party with alcohol. We even have some kids that go to JDC before and after school. Apparently criminality that can't be allowed in public or at home is just fine in school. Teachers have to deal with criminality and the undisciplined enviroment that naturally results with it while the media blames and attacks their unions for every failure. Nobody ever addresses the real reasons many schools have become a cesspool where learning is secondary to surviving.

 

[Westside]

I agree with both Don and Truthteller on this issue. Security, by way of of off-duty cops, private security, or simply training teachers is something that all schools should look at, especially considering our dysfunctional culture. However it should be a completely local issue, decided by the people affected. The issue as it is being set forth by politicians and the media is to nationalize the issue, which would, indeed, augment the police state that is rapidly being assembled.

If BO's brats have buco armed security, then all students, especially prized good White Students should have the same security. Whats good the marxist kin is good for all our kin as well. Simple. Truthteller nailed it. F the illegal aliens, transfer the money spent on those ingrates and use it for a trained full time school police/security apparatus. Very simple solution. The head of the NRA also nailed it.

 

[jaxvid]

If BO's brats have buco armed security, then all students, especially prized good White Students should have the same security. Whats good the marxist kin is good for all our kin as well. Simple. Truthteller nailed it. F the illegal aliens, transfer the money spent on those ingrates and use it for a trained full time school police/security apparatus. Very simple solution. The head of the NRA also nailed it.

What are the chances the people that are pushing for gun control are going to want to transfer a single penny from supporting the flood of illegal aliens (their future voters) to fund a "conservative" initiative. I understand the desire to rant about it but what are the odds of it happening, as opposed to say, banning guns?

 

[DixieDestroyer]

- Arch cultmarx Hellyweird hippo Michael Moore says gun ownership = "ray siss"

http://www.infowars.com/own-a-gun-youre-a-racist/


- Judeo-bolshevik Feinstein aggressively leads the charge for destruction of the 2nd Amendment.

http://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/assault-weapons

 

[Truthteller]

If BO's brats have buco armed security, then all students, especially prized good White Students should have the same security. Whats good the marxist kin is good for all our kin as well. Simple. Truthteller nailed it. F the illegal aliens, transfer the money spent on those ingrates and use it for a trained full time school police/security apparatus. Very simple solution. The head of the NRA also nailed it.

Thanks Westside. Needless to say I agree 100% with you. I also totally agree with Football Dad. Don Wassall and Jaxvid also make some great points, so I guess I wont make one of my usual long replies, considering there is very little to debate. Again, I'm not looking for any sort of police state going forward, just better protection for these schools, especially these mostly white (rural) schools -- as I assume most "inner-city" schools are very well protected, in comparison?

If you check one of my previous posts in this thread and look at the photos of the 2 classes the sub-human animal (aka Adam Lanza) shot up you'll notice just how small, helpless and defenseless these Sandy Hook kids were. Their only protection was a brave, unarmed 5'2", female principle (mother of 5) trying to jump the freak. That's not acceptable.

Also, it's known Lanza was a total coward. He had hundreds of rounds of ammo left, but shot himself in the head the second he heard police sirens. Imagine if the cops had been 2 or 3 minutes away, instead of 10 minutes away?

 

[Highlander]

Also, it's known Lanza was a total coward. He had hundreds of rounds of ammo left, but shot himself in the head the second he heard police sirens. Imagine if the cops had been 2 or 3 minutes away, instead of 10 minutes away?

Either an immense coward or a pre-programmed mental trigger to leave no chance of capture, questioning, or trial...not that I'm questioning his guilt, but dead men tell no tales.

The whole thing is bizarre and the immediate reaction to politicize the entire event by the MSM and "our" politician's (including many Republicans) is telling...all complicit in their views with China to disarm the American people (gee, I wonder why) gives me the willies and should give every red-blooded American pause for consideration.

At the very least, perhaps each school should have a police siren on the premises that, with the push of a button, can transmit this sound as a deterrent, considering the affect it had on Lanza.

 

[werewolf]

Either an immense coward or a pre-programmed mental trigger to leave no chance of capture, questioning, or trial...not that I'm questioning his guilt, but dead men tell no tales.

The whole thing is bizarre and the immediate reaction to politicize the entire event by the MSM and "our" politician's (including many Republicans) is telling...all complicit in their views with China to disarm the American people (gee, I wonder why) gives me the willies and should give every red-blooded American pause for consideration.

At the very least, perhaps each school should have a police siren on the premises that, with the push of a button, can transmit this sound as a deterrent, considering the affect it had on Lanza.

Yes, very bizarre and very orchestrated. They were eagerly awaiting an event like this for their agenda, and the media and the politicians piled on, as usual, in unison. Maybe it was more than just an accidental event, too. There are a lot of inconsistencies. And speaking of inconsistencies, there was their practice run for 911, OK City - and their official story on that was almost as nuts as that on their big follow up - and one of the very few things that we were allowed to hear Tim McVeigh say was early on when he said that some sort of mind control chip had been put in his body by the military.

Now the occupational government wants to take away the arms from the citizens of the U.S. and send it to their own country, Israhell. No gun control for Israhell!

And when are our lords and masters - the politicians and the media owners - going to give up their own guns and their own armed guards and their armed to the teeth secret service protectors and their fortress mansions?



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[werewolf]

"Among the many misdeeds of British rule in India, history will look upon
the Act depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest." - Mohandas
Gandhi, an Autobiography, page 446.

 

[celtic warrior]

"Among the many misdeeds of British rule in India, history will look upon
the Act depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest." - Mohandas
Gandhi, an Autobiography, page 446.

I have a mind control chip in me but its usually just a Dorito or Pringle. I do crave them in my head from time to time. Is paranoia this rampant in society? Its just like 911 was a conspiracy or the NFL is fixed. How can you be so intelligent and yet SO illogical?

 

[werewolf]

I have a mind control chip in me but its usually just a Dorito or Pringle. I do crave them in my head from time to time. Is paranoia this rampant in society? Its just like 911 was a conspiracy or the NFL is fixed. How can you be so intelligent and yet SO illogical?

Yeah right, I'm sure you do. They teach them to go into the Jewish stand up Catskill comedy routine when confronted by the "taboo" - like "mind control chips" are only a figment of paranoia...Also, what does your schtick have to do with Ghandi's quote on gun control in India?

2009 article on Techworld.com, and plenty more where that comes from:

"Intel creates cyborg mind control chip
Brain waves to control computer functions"


And yes, that is what Tim McVeigh said, one of the very few things he was ever allowed to say to us before they silenced him.


And another one of their favorite zio-tricks, juxtaposing unrelated things, like, ha ha, you think that the government isn't telling the truth about their war on terror and the world is flat ha ha! Or in this case the obvious (!) govmt-media BS about the 911 attacks and fixed NFL games, which nobody said a word about.

Speaking of the OK City set up - where all the FBI and the BATF stayed home that day (like the Israelis did on 911) except for one guy who nobody liked - and where they used the same CIA-connected carting firm to bury all the evidence before forensic investigations could be conducted, as they did when they did the same thing at "ground zero"...

General Parton, US Army, Ret., the USA's foremost expert on explosives: "There is no way in the world that a so-called fertilizer bomb took down that bombproof OK City federal building".

So don't try your zio-bull**** on me, kid. I'll chew you up and spit out your bones! Anyway, 5 posts, you're probably just a returning troll.



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[werewolf]

More on human microchip implants on Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microchip_implant_(human)

As for Timothy McVeigh, I don't know if he did have one, but that is what he said.

 

[celtic warrior]

I'm not sure you could chew me up and spit out my bones. However I was refering to a poster named bigunreal who thought NFl games were fixed.
You once posted on this site that 911 was a Jewish conspiracy. Right. And no Jews died in the attacks. Riiiggghht. Thank god 4,000 people can keep a secret.
And where do you get your facts from? The media? Wait they are all controlled by the Zionists so basically you get all your information from the Jews themselves.
Can you answer one question? Are you completely insane? This is a sincere question but you will not see it that way. You make a lot of bold and broad statements and attack things you have no solid proof on. Once again if you are so intelligent how can you lack basic rationalization skills?

 

[werewolf]

I'm not sure you could chew me up and spit out my bones. However I was refering to a poster named bigunreal who thought NFl games were fixed.
You once posted on this site that 911 was a Jewish conspiracy. Right. And no Jews died in the attacks. Riiiggghht. Thank god 4,000 people can keep a secret.
And where do you get your facts from? The media? Wait they are all controlled by the Zionists so basically you get all your information from the Jews themselves.
Can you answer one question? Are you completely insane? This is a sincere question but you will not see it that way. You make a lot of bold and broad statements and attack things you have no solid proof on. Once again if you are so intelligent how can you lack basic rationalization skills?

"You once posted on this site that 911 was a Jewish conspiracy. Right. And no Jews died in the attacks. Riiiggghht."

No, kid, wrooonnng. Suppose you show me where I ever said any such thing as "no Jews died in the attacks". You can't because I never did, and you are a lying troll. And now I know who you are too, because I recognize this phrase: "This is a sincere question", because that is the same wording that you were using when you were sending me your inane PM's under your previous incarnation as "white defensive back".

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[celtic warrior]

"You once posted on this site that 911 was a Jewish conspiracy. Right. And no Jews died in the attacks. Riiiggghht."

No, kid, wrooonnng. Suppose you show me where I ever said any such thing as "no Jews died in the attacks". You can't because I never did, and you are a lying troll. And now I know who you are too, because I recognize this phrase: "This is a sincere question", because that is the same wording that you were using when you were sending me your inane PM's under your previous incarnation as "white defensive back".

ww

What you just said was that no Israelis showed up for work that day because some conspiracy theorists argue that a large # of emails were sent out before the attacks to the Jews that worked in both trade centers. Could you answer the question? Do you find any rational to any of your thoughts. Maybe I am attacking some of the things you say because it is just illogical. I am not attacking everything you say because I have probably not read it all. You can't call me a troll because I disagree with you on some things you say. How would McVeigh even know that he had a chip in him? I know nothing of demolitions but I'm pretty sure a truck bomb blew up the Federal building in Oklahoma City. I saw it on the news.

 

[Truthteller]

Great feedback by all since my last post, except for the long time troll using a new name.

werewolf, I really enjoy your views as a poster. Keep doing what your doing, as you add a lot of great info here.

I don't want to get off topic (Newtown shootings) too much, but I actually vividly remember the day of the Oklahoma City bombings. Right after it happened all the TV networks went into full coverage mode and constantly showed the drawings of two suspects:

One turned out to be Timothy McVeigh (goy on the left). The other was never mentioned again by our media, the authorities or the government? I found that to be very odd at the time and find it even more odd 16 years after!

Was it Jose Padilla and where the OKC bombings done to boost Clinton's 1996 re-election chances?

http://www.greatdreams.com/john-doe-2.htm


werewolf, I guess that's my question. Any thoughts on john doe #2?

 

[celtic warrior]

I guess you are both insane. Well slightly. Wow. I could type and type and type about insanity and it never gets answered. You can't call someone a troll because they call you out for insane thoughts. I only have a Masters in SW but even a layman can see the paranoid/delusional thoughts behind some posters thoughts.
Why would a white supremacist hang out with Padilla? If I recall the media said they had the wrong guy in the second picture. I might be wrong. It was 17 years ago.

 

[Westside]

What are the chances the people that are pushing for gun control are going to want to transfer a single penny from supporting the flood of illegal aliens (their future voters) to fund a "conservative" initiative. I understand the desire to rant about it but what are the odds of it happening, as opposed to say, banning guns?

Of course they(dumbed down whites, DWFs, libs, socialists, closet communists and misguided emasculated Whites and meaican ingrates) will not. There are no chances of it happening. We are living in an society tittering between what was the late 50s/ early 60s to what we have now. A struggling economy who re elected BO an utter failure domestically and cheered about it.

If this was the early 1960s people would favor armed security at schools over funding for any illegal alien funding, period. Fat teddy kennedy and his ilk had yet to turn America in Amerika with their illogical policies against White Americans.

Jaxvid, I thought this was "Happy Hour" forum where we could rant. :yield:

 

[Don Wassall]

Of course they(dumbed down whites, DWFs, libs, socialists, closet communists and misguided emasculated Whites and meaican ingrates) will not. There are no chances of it happening. We are living in an society tittering between what was the late 50s/ early 60s to what we have now. A struggling economy who re elected BO an utter failure domestically and cheered about it.

If this was the early 1960s people would favor armed security at schools over funding for any illegal alien funding, period. Fat teddy kennedy and his ilk had yet to turn America in Amerika with their illogical policies against White Americans.

Jaxvid, I thought this was "Happy Hour" forum where we could rant. :yield:

They wouldn't have favored either. You still had an homogeneous society in the early 1960s (88 percent White, 10 percent black, 2 percent other), and it was one that didn't become hysterical on cue like it does now.

There was a school bombing in Michigan in 1927 that killed 38 children. There was a sniper at the University of Texas in 1966 that killed dozens of people, yet there was no clamor for armed guards being everywhere on school grounds. There were serial killers in the '60s like Richard Speck, yet there was no loud demand for gun control.

School shootings have decreased in recent years, yet there has been a severe, orchestrated over-reaction to what happened in Newtown. Similarly, "terrorism" was a tiny fraction on 9/11/01 of what it was in the late 60s and early 70s. Then you had bombs going off on college campuses, various violent student groups, the Black Panthers, lots of airplane hijackings to Cuba, huge anti-war demonstrations across the country many of them violent, etc., but Americans hadn't yet been trained by the government and corporate media to become scared crapless of alleged "threats" anywhere and everywhere.

A once-free people has been propagandized over time to fear sundry external and internal threats and to rely on government to protect them from any potential dangers in their daily lives. It's the mentality of slaves, the inculcation of which goes hand-in-hand with the demographic revolution that was forced on White America.

 

[Truthteller]

Why would a white supremacist hang out with Padilla? If I recall the media said they had the wrong guy in the second picture. I might be wrong. It was 17 years ago.

Why would a "white supremacist" have a mail-order Asian bride almost 30 years younger than him? Didn't Terry Nichols, who was arrested along with McVeigh, have a young wife from the Philippines? Didn't he have non-white children with her? Doesn't seem to make much sense, huh Zio-troll?

Terry Nichols wife, Marife Torres

Perhaps McVeigh and Nichols were not really hardcore "white supremacists", as the media portrayed them to be? Perhaps they were, but sought out non-white partners in crime? Why should I absolutely believe that our government and the FBI are telling the truth 100% of the time? I'm not sure what exactly happened in OKC or on 9-11 nut-sack, just asking a question.

Anyway, glad you've been banned again. Sure you'll be back in a day or two with a new name. Perhaps you'll dust off one of your other, current names that you rarely use, and you'll be back in a few minutes? Like your poster name "PowerFtbll", which you only use to respond to your posts that no one cares about. Can't wait to read your next update on Georgie Salem, Dylan Muscat or Kasey Gaines.

 

[werewolf]

What you just said was that no Israelis showed up for work that day ...

Hi, Antiwhite Defensive Back.

"No Jews" has been changed to "No Israhelis" now, huh? They switch the words around to suit the occasion. I know your little talmudic arguing tricks, you mischievous little rascal! The latter word is, however, correct, except for the two mysterious Israhelis aboard the 911 planes, namely Sayeret Metkal airplane commandeering expert Daniel Lewin who just coincidentally happened to be sitting right next to the ALLEGED Arabs and according to initial reports was shooting people, then changed to stabbing people, then changed to getting stabbed, then pretty much dropped from the official fairy tale, and another mysterious Israheli, Alona Avraham.

All of the 4,000 Israhelis that the Jerusalem Post and the Israheli embassy in NYC said were working in or near the WTC and the Pentagon on 911 miraculously turned up AOK, except for one man who was just visiting, according to the Israheli Consul General Pinkus - and that Israheli visitor later turned up alive and well as well.

Lucky Larry "Pull It" Silverstein didn't show up for work at his office at the WTC the morning of 911 either, nor did his two children, nor did the officers in his company. Months later Lucky's "family spokesman" issued a statement saying he didn't show up that day "because he was running late".

"Nothing to see here, schmucks. Move along. Don't ask no tin foil hat conspiracy theory questions. Go on home and turn on your tv set and help ban guns in the colony - I mean the USSA - I mean the USA" - White Defensive Backberg

 

[werewolf]

Great feedback by all since my last post, except for the long time troll using a new name.

werewolf, I really enjoy your views as a poster. Keep doing what your doing, as you add a lot of great info here.

I don't want to get off topic (Newtown shootings) too much, but I actually vividly remember the day of the Oklahoma City bombings. Right after it happened all the TV networks went into full coverage mode and constantly showed the drawings of two suspects:

One turned out to be Timothy McVeigh (goy on the left). The other was never mentioned again by our media, the authorities or the government? I found that to be very odd at the time and find it even more odd 16 years after!

Was it Jose Padilla and where the OKC bombings done to boost Clinton's 1996 re-election chances?

http://www.greatdreams.com/john-doe-2.htm


werewolf, I guess that's my question. Any thoughts on john doe #2?

There are so very many unanswered questions about the OKC bombing, Truthteller, and like its new and impoved follow up the official story made no sense and holds no water. I heard General Parton speak about it in person twice.

Also they tried to take down the WTC first in 1993. It was pretty much an all-FBI operation. Any actual Arabs involved were on the payroll (same as 911). I was on the scene and know that they found a number of unexploded bombs in the stairwells. That was totally vanished from the news. (I also missed being a 911 first responder by a hair. I didn't know how lucky I was that I did. Most of the first responders have since become very sick and/or died. They told the suckers that the air was carefully tested and found to be as pure as a mountain breeze. The mf'ers lie about everything!).

The WTC was a huge money loser and suffered from galvanic corrosion, and was ordered buy OSHA to do a multi-billion dollar asbestos removal, and it had very quickly become obsolete for many reasons, including the reason that it was built at a time of cheap energy and was very expensive to maintain, and it was very hard to get in and out of so big shots didn't like it. They were trying to think of how it could be demolished and replaced for years, but the task seemed impossible. But then they thought of a way.

I better let the thread go back to its intended purpose.


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