I wonder if anyone else has noticed what I call "Disrepect him" tackling in the NFL. It is when a player, most often a black player, tries to tackle a runner by knocking him down instead of wrapping him up. It hardly ever works but it seems to me that it is representative of a kind of gang mentality that permeates the NFL. It's more important to disrespect the other player by knocking him down than to make a higher percentage attempt at tackling by doing it correctly. This is one of the things that frustrates me most about the NFL. What I see as a gang mentality is ruining the game for me......not to mention women commentators on the sidelines.
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Colonel_Reb
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Welcome to Caste Football, Blitz. Yes, I have noticed this, but I see it as more symptomatic of blacks having poor fundamentals when it comes to tackling. They either don't want to take the effort, or just don't have the skills to do so. Thats why defenses are so bad now. You don't see dominant defenses like in the past because players aren't playing sound fundamental football, and its no coincidence that this has happened with the rise of the Caste System NFL.
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Blacks bring a "gang" mentality into nearly anything they do. Sports, the workplace, social events, etc. You name it, and they "be thuggin" in some form or another, as they so eliquently put it. I wouldn't be surprised if they chose to hit their opponents their own way because they felt that actually tackling someone properly was the "White way".
Think about it. Predominantly White coaches instructing them on how to do something properly. Sounds a lot like the typical rebellion that White teachers face in urban public schools every day, doesn't it? The gridiron is no different. Thats just my two cents.
Think about it. Predominantly White coaches instructing them on how to do something properly. Sounds a lot like the typical rebellion that White teachers face in urban public schools every day, doesn't it? The gridiron is no different. Thats just my two cents.
both tackling and catching are on the decline, and i think it will be beneficial for white players who tend to have solid fundamentals and i am pretty sure that eventually even the blindest coach will replace his super athletes with ones that are disciplined and can actually make an open field tackle or tough catch.
The NFL has no shortage of players likethe alwayscharming Braylon Edwards. Earlier this week he publicly criticized his (white) teammate Brian Russell for hitting Chad Johnson too hard six or so weeks ago. Today he screamed at Charlie Frye on the sideline and pushed him.
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Edwards is a overrated receiver anyway
lumsdenpower
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if I was Charlie, I would just throw to Jerivicius
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Don Wassall said:
If I were Brian Russell, I would just do what I used to do in high school. Wait until practice comes around, and start mangling the people I have problems with. I am all for team unity...that is of course, until you criticize me publically. Then it becomes "headhunting season" on loudmouth darkies in practice. Russell knows what he has to do.
Oh how I long for the days of Bill Romanowski...the only White man in the league with any balls at all.
Blitz said:
Excellent observation! It is a serious problem with the caste system of American football. The attempt to tackle by trying to hit with the shoulder is a staple of pro and college football. That is why the games are void of any defense.
How many times do you see a runner break several tackles on a run by guys that are right next to him. If any one of them would have went low and grabbed the player by the legs or lower body then the play would have been stopped.
It has to do with several things all of them due to the influx of blacks and nearly all black defenses. As mentioned the thug mentality is at work, but it is also the desire to make a highlight play so the player can dance a little primative war dance after the play.
It is also a sign of laziness as anyone who has played knows it is a lot more work to dive to the ground and get trampled while taking a player down. A hard shoulder hit is much easier, all of the force is absorbed on the well padded shoulders, frequently the hitter doesn't even go to the ground.
This sloppy method of tackling is on display in every game where there are no white linebackers or safeties to cleanly take down players (note there are black players that are good tacklers but even they are ignored over the "hard hitters").
Coaches create this problem by favoring players that hit hard over ones that can tackle. It is similar to the black style of running out of bounds instead of going for extra yards. Coaches should long ago have done away with both practices but do not.
A couple of years ago before the NFL draft I read about a top rated line backer, his major weakness was: tackling. How the hell can a first round pick at line backer have as his major weakness tackling? It makes no sense, it would be like a first round MLB outfielder having as his major weakness hitting. He wouldn't be a first rounder. But when 40 times, bench presses and how the guy looks with his shirt off are all you measure a player on then that is what you get. NFL 2006.
I think it is a big reason why white high schools beat black high schools. They are much better tacklers.
Having an all black defense, coaches favoring speed over skill, all of these contribute to the modern game. It is virtually unwatchable to me, the play is so poor. With black runners trying to get out of bounds on every play, black receivers dropping so many easy passes, and black defenders turning short gains into long runs, the modern game is a joke.
I believe any team from 30 years ago against a current team would beat them. The play today is just that bad.
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I have to wonder if a team from thirty years ago would beat a modern day team. Today's guys are so much stronger and faster than they were thirty years ago. Then again, it has been shown that European teams can beat our best NBA players in the Olympics because they play team ball. Interesting to think about. I guess that is what is is all about though. Some of the most simple truths never change despite how society tries to change them.
I have to wonder if a team from thirty years ago would beat a modern day team. Today's guys are so much stronger and faster than they were thirty years ago. Then again, it has been shown that European teams can beat our best NBA players in the Olympics because they play team ball. Interesting to think about. I guess that is what is is all about though. Some of the most simple truths never change despite how society tries to change them.
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The most heralded pick in the draft suffers from hittaphobia, too. I watched the Saints - Falcons game today and watched Reggie Bush run out of bounds several times instead of taking a hit. On one play in particular, it was 2nd and 5, Reggie barely cleared the line of scrimmage and had ONE defensive player between him and the first down marker - and he ran out of bounds without being touched. He made no effort to try and get the first down, he got what he could get easily and quit.
You think Brock Forsey or Luke Staley would have run out of bounds?
This trend has now become the norm. Blacks will run out of bounds and will " fall down" after catching a pass in coverage. I witnessed Joe Horn do this during the Saints/Falcoons game. My wife asked me what had happened to the reciever, why did he go down when no one hit him. I explained that he suffers from stink bug syndrome. An affliction where brothers will find the lowest part of the field to laydown on, rather than take a hit for extra yardage.
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So that's why hardly anyone wears thigh pads or hip pads in the NFL. They don't get hit/ tackled low, just the high hit for the highlight show...
jaxvid said:
After reading this post earlier I left my computer and went to another room to watch the Patriots-Bears game. Troy Aikman,shortly after, made the same comment about players bumping guys instead of wrapping their arms around them to bring them down.I saw several plays exactly like that.
And why do the players try to pick up a loose ball and run with it instead of just falling on it making sure it is secured? More often than not they wind up losing it. Brian Urlacher put some big hits on guys and made some nice plays, but he was juked by Brady who made a good run and move. You can bet Urlacher was not happy with Tomas he signaled the first down. Good for Tom. I like it when he shows some fire. Besides, nearly every black guy does a dance routine after a catch, tackle or touchdown anyway.
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i saw the joe horn "swan dive" too.
what a vagina! these guys are afraid to take a hit, and hide in fear if any DB comes near 'em. i thought football was a contact sport... maybe the only permissable contact any longer is with the ground, curled in a fetal position?
just as bad are the countless examples of alligator arms, where the wideouts refuse to extend their arms to make a catch in traffic. i lost count of how many times i saw this yesterday. ugh! it is pathetic.
just as bad are the countless examples of alligator arms, where the wideouts refuse to extend their arms to make a catch in traffic. i lost count of how many times i saw this yesterday. ugh! it is pathetic.
What was always the proper play by a defender on a fourth down pass down the field? Knock it down, don't intercept it so that the ball is turned over at the line of scrimmage.
That's just common sense football. Yet now theaccepted play is for the defender to intercept the ball (when they can manage to hold onto it), thereby in most cases giving up 20 or 30 or 40 yards of the field, and then dance around celebrating his idiocy as his teammates congratulate him.
That's just common sense football. Yet now theaccepted play is for the defender to intercept the ball (when they can manage to hold onto it), thereby in most cases giving up 20 or 30 or 40 yards of the field, and then dance around celebrating his idiocy as his teammates congratulate him.
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Don Wassall said:
That's a great point Don.
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Don Wassall said:
Too busy trying to get on sports center; alternatively, they could be simply trying to make sure it doesn't get batted into a close receiver's hands.
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That's all that passes for tackling in the NFL,not just now,but going back at least 15-20 years,especially,as the game has become blacker.
It's nothing but Thug "football" ;hitting the ball carriers,knocking them down,blasting them with the forearms,hands,shoulders ,and,of course,the infamous helmet-to-helmet hits,that the league claims they crack down on now,but I heard that one 20 years ago, all to give the opponents concussions,and end their careers (I'm surprised "spearing" hasn't come back, but WE know it will,if they start doing it again).
I remember 10-15 years ago,on "The Sports Reporters",one of the guests stated "There hasn't been any tackling in the NFL since Pat Fisher retired".That would be the late '70s,when the game still had a very large number of Whites,so there you go.
Of course,there were some White players who were hard,vicious hitters - Butkus,Ed Sprinkle,Hardy Brown,Doug Atkins,Ben Davidson,Ernie Stautner,Mike Gaechter.But,they were few and far between,and,as with so much in our culture....
Bad enough when Whites do it,
Always worse when blacks do the same.
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It's nothing but Thug "football" ;hitting the ball carriers,knocking them down,blasting them with the forearms,hands,shoulders ,and,of course,the infamous helmet-to-helmet hits,that the league claims they crack down on now,but I heard that one 20 years ago, all to give the opponents concussions,and end their careers (I'm surprised "spearing" hasn't come back, but WE know it will,if they start doing it again).
I remember 10-15 years ago,on "The Sports Reporters",one of the guests stated "There hasn't been any tackling in the NFL since Pat Fisher retired".That would be the late '70s,when the game still had a very large number of Whites,so there you go.
Of course,there were some White players who were hard,vicious hitters - Butkus,Ed Sprinkle,Hardy Brown,Doug Atkins,Ben Davidson,Ernie Stautner,Mike Gaechter.But,they were few and far between,and,as with so much in our culture....
Bad enough when Whites do it,
Always worse when blacks do the same.
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Matt Bowen Fan said:
what better way could there be to make sure the ball hits the ground than send it flying toward a receiver?
these guys have hands like feet.
what better way could there be to make sure the ball hits the ground than send it flying toward a receiver?
We're assured time and again during Colts games that Marvin Harrison is a great person, because he's quiet and doesn't celebrate after he scores touchdowns. Yet during the Colts-Eagles game Sunday night, Harrison left the field near the end of the first half as the Colts were lining up to kick a field goal. Then in the second half, after a Philly DB stripped the ball away from him for an interception, Harrison made no effort to pursue the defender.
Harrison's actions were explainedaway by Tony Dungy, who said Harrison went to the locker room to "stretch," and that he thought he had been fouled on the interception. What b.s.
Harrison strikes me as an odd duck, always sitting by himself at the end of the bench, never smiling or showing any emotion whatsoever other than when he pouts. It's one thing to show restraint in celebrating, another to act like a zombie. He'sactedupin other games when hefelt Peyton Manningwasn't throwing to him enough. And oh yeah, there was that little incident at the Pro Bowl in Hawaii afew years back when Harrison allegedly began choking a young fan who asked him for his autograph. The victim filed a civil suit but we didn't hear much about it did we?
Harrison isn't a part of the NFL's "gang culture," but he's no role model either.
Harrison's actions were explainedaway by Tony Dungy, who said Harrison went to the locker room to "stretch," and that he thought he had been fouled on the interception. What b.s.
Harrison strikes me as an odd duck, always sitting by himself at the end of the bench, never smiling or showing any emotion whatsoever other than when he pouts. It's one thing to show restraint in celebrating, another to act like a zombie. He'sactedupin other games when hefelt Peyton Manningwasn't throwing to him enough. And oh yeah, there was that little incident at the Pro Bowl in Hawaii afew years back when Harrison allegedly began choking a young fan who asked him for his autograph. The victim filed a civil suit but we didn't hear much about it did we?
Harrison isn't a part of the NFL's "gang culture," but he's no role model either.