Dating Etiquette Question

[BoxingSpecialist2]

Hey guys, I know that this isn't a dating site, or anything like that. However, this is the only Internet Forum that I post on, and I can't be bothered to join up at another site (takes too much time). Plus, I consider the guys here at Castefootball very awesome, knowledgeable, and agreeable to my own views, so I'm happy to be at this site and posting here!

I think everyone knows me by now, but just to reiterate, I am 24 years old! Here is a thread where I introduced myself when I began posting regularly at this site; http://www.castefootball.us/forums/...i-to-the-Community?highlight=hello,+introduce

Those pics are all from about a year ago, maybe sometime soon I will post some new ones!

So I was wondering, I have been flirting on and off with this Iranian girl for about 2 years now, the reason we didn't date is because I was dating a few other Iranian and Afghan girls in that timespan, and she was dating a few White guys during that timespan.

I've recently bought a new car, and I am single. She has a boyfriend now but I still asked her out and she basically said yes. It seems like she's going to breakup with him in order to date me. Should I feel guilty about that? Am I being a jackass to the guy?

I'm generally a nice guy, and at least I'm not encouraging her to cheat on him. I would not want to be with a girl who has a husband or boyfriend anyway. But it is rude to make a girl breakup with her boyfriend to date you?

What's everyone's thoughts on this? Is it rude or OK? What do you think about guys who get girls to breakup with their boyfriends so that they can date them? Is it a mean thing to do, or am I overthinking it and its perfectly normal to take someone's girlfriend? At least breaking up with him is better than cheating?

To be honest I do kinda feel bad for the guy, but you know, he probably wouldn't show me any kindness, and Im sure if the tables were switched he probably wouldn't hesitate to take my girlfriend if the situation was reversed.

Generally speaking, I consider myself very conservative and somewhat of a male-rights activist, so I don't like to wrong another male (I hate that mentality of two males fighting over a female, I would never do that), or mistreat someone, but at the same time, I have to enjoy my life you know. I'm sure he'll get another girlfriend after so I'm probably just overthinking it.

 

[Phall]

You should stand beneath her bedroom window and ululate a sweet proclamation of jihad on her enemies. Once you have her ear, promise to wrap her in only the finest hijab. Since she is Westernized, lure her with promises of taqiyya-inspired nights on the town.

As for your rival suitor, you should impugn him as an idolator who has insulted Allah, and behead him.

 

[VetForumWars]

I was going to say simply don't email her pictures of your **** but I like Phall's ideas more.

 

[BoxingSpecialist2]

You should stand beneath her bedroom window and ululate a sweet proclamation of jihad on her enemies. Once you have her ear, promise to wrap her in only the finest hijab. Since she is Westernized, lure her with promises of taqiyya-inspired nights on the town.

As for your rival suitor, you should impugn him as an idolator who has insulted Allah, and behead him.

I am not religious at all, and currently I don't practice any religion. So I just find your post funny to be honest. It's a good joke you make, Cheers!

On a serious note, I'm just wondering how other guys on this site view taking someone else's girlfriend? Is it OK? Have you done it? Does everyone do it? Am I making too much of a deal about it?

Personally as I said I am a supporter of male issues and male rights. I generally never go out of my way to be aggressive, or attack another male (especially over a female). But at the same time, I want to enjoy my life and date who I wanna date. So, I guess it's OK for me to steal someone else's girlfriend. I'm sure that guy would do it to me if the tables were turned!

Comments/Thoughts appreciated. Just wondering how other guys at this site see this issue!

 

[dwid]

how do you know they broke up for real?
if she left him for you, then there is a pretty good chance she'll leave you for another man down the line. So you did him a favor, but not doing yourself any favors. Since you don't care about being promiscuous, hit it and quit it

 

[Menelik]

24 and asking for dating advice??? Here ya go mohammadean:



http://www.jdate.com/LP/jdate-jewis...O451000000517942975s_jdate&tsacr=GO7785969967

 

[TBProdigy]

Haha I knew this was going to end up in a chitstorm, I like you though, although your views can be somewhat "different" in some ways from rest of the forum.

Honest answer: Truthfully, if she is willing to dump her boyfriend and jump into a new relationship, you should be seeing warning flags, to me, this attitude signals a lack of loyalty and a whole other bunch of character issues too. Definitely not long term relationship worthy or marriage material. I also don't see her current relationship strong enough to last if she is actively monkey branching. I wouldn't use this as a justification but I think the other guy would be better off without her, he may not realize it now but in the future he will be unknowingly thankful knowing he didn't invest his life, time and emotions into a girl that would up and leave him for the next best thing that came along, taking his kids and half of everything he owns.

I have this saying that's vaguely relevant but I use it for cheaters, for guys that sleep with eloped girls and then try to build relationships and family with them, "Once a cheat always a cheat", if she's willing to throw away a relationship for temporary satisfaction, what's to stop her doing the same to you?
You may think you are special and hot ****, but there is always someone as good if not better than you out there.

 

[whiteathlete33]

C'mon now guys. Leave Boxingspecialist alone. He's done nothing wrong on this site for a long time. I admit, his posts in the beginning and pictures infuriated me but he's become a valuable member and a great poster in the boxing section.

I don't think it's fair that he's belittled constantly, and by the same members, and he's not even doing anything wrong. This is a happy hour forum so there is nothing wrong with his questions. He never even attacks back. Give the guy a break already.

 

[BoxingSpecialist2]

dwid, & TBProdigy, yes, you guys are totally right that if she is breaking up with her current boyfriend to date me, that means she would do the same thing to me or any other guy she dates. That's a risk I'm willing to take, and I can live with that. However, as I said, it's a bit different. Me and this girl have been talking about dating for years, it's just never worked out cause we were dating other people. So we have a history, probably larger than the guy she is currently dating.

Some of my ex's have ended up with other guys, so what goes around comes around is all I can say.

On the one hand I feel a bit guilty and bad for the guy because I am basically stealing his girlfriend. But you know? He'd probably do the same thing to me. I have nothing against him, I'm sure he's a great guy.

As I said, I am a supporter of male rights, so I never like to be aggressive or attack someone. I especially hate when 2 males fight each other over a female, that's not my style and I'd never do that. But I need to enjoy my life as well and I want to date her. I'm sure he will get another girlfriend so I guess it's OK. Plus, if the tables were turned, Im sure he wouldn't hesitate to steal my girlfriend.

Basically I'm just looking if others at this site agree with my viewpoint.

I am not cheating, so I think I am doing alright. Its better that I'm atleast demanding she breakup with him before dating me, I would say that is showing him some courtesy (as opposed to doing it behind his back).

C'mon now guys. Leave Boxingspecialist alone. He's done nothing wrong on this site for a long time. I admit, his posts in the beginning and pictures infuriated me but he's become a valuable member and a great poster in the boxing section.

I don't think it's fair that he's belittled constantly, and by the same members, and he's not even doing anything wrong. This is a happy hour forum so there is nothing wrong with his questions. He never even attacks back. Give the guy a break already.

Hey, thanks pal . Ive tried my best to be a positive contributor at this site and I'm happy to see other members are saying that about me. We have a great group of guys in the boxing forum discussing the sport. I am happy to be on this site and involved in that discussion!

 

[jaxvid]

Aren't you just looking to bang this chick? What better sign of a slut then someone that will drop her current boyfriend to hop in the sack with you?

I think you're kidding us with this post, probably showing it to friends for laughs. If you have anything to do with the MRM then you know this is classic female hypergamy in action. Classic.

And I thought you liked those Iranian girls because they weren't so westernized. Sounds like this one is a thorough "modern" woman.

 

[davidholly]

In the final episode of the HBO series "The Pacific" one of the marines returned home to find his girlfriend was now dating someone else. He hadn't wrote to her at all during the war so she just moved on. The girl immediately broke up with her new boyfriend as soon as the old one came back.

The point I'm making is that just because a girl is willing to break up with a guy to be with someone else doesn't mean she's a habitual cheater. She probably just moved on assuming you'd never come around.

 

[whiteathlete33]

dwid, & TBProdigy, yes, you guys are totally right that if she is breaking up with her current boyfriend to date me, that means she would do the same thing to me or any other guy she dates. That's a risk I'm willing to take, and I can live with that. However, as I said, it's a bit different. Me and this girl have been talking about dating for years, it's just never worked out cause we were dating other people. So we have a history, probably larger than the guy she is currently dating.

Some of my ex's have ended up with other guys, so what goes around comes around is all I can say.

On the one hand I feel a bit guilty and bad for the guy because I am basically stealing his girlfriend. But you know? He'd probably do the same thing to me. I have nothing against him, I'm sure he's a great guy.

As I said, I am a supporter of male rights, so I never like to be aggressive or attack someone. I especially hate when 2 males fight each other over a female, that's not my style and I'd never do that. But I need to enjoy my life as well and I want to date her. I'm sure he will get another girlfriend so I guess it's OK. Plus, if the tables were turned, Im sure he wouldn't hesitate to steal my girlfriend.

Basically I'm just looking if others at this site agree with my viewpoint.

I am not cheating, so I think I am doing alright. Its better that I'm atleast demanding she breakup with him before dating me, I would say that is showing him some courtesy (as opposed to doing it behind his back).



Hey, thanks pal . Ive tried my best to be a positive contributor at this site and I'm happy to see other members are saying that about me. We have a great group of guys in the boxing forum discussing the sport. I am happy to be on this site and involved in that discussion!

You are welcome. I enjoy the boxing thread the best out of all forums on this site. Great way to keep track of our fighters.,

 

[Thrashen]

I agree that “BoxingSpecialist” has been a good poster over the past few months, especially considering his anti-Zionist politics and boxing commentary. I believe he is a white Bosnian Muslim, so dating Middle Eastern women isn’t all that unnatural for him.

About five years ago, when I was a single man in college attempting to find a decent woman (the whole “needle-haystack” cultural morose), I would immediately eliminate any girl with a boyfriend from “dating contention.” In fact, I’d also eliminate any girl who had just broken up with her boyfriend. I feel this way for the following reasons…

1) The fact that she could have been “intimate” (in whatever capacity) with another man in her very recent past fundamentally disgusts me.

2) Her interest in you could be little more than a vehicle to make the other man “jealous” and “realize what he had.” Like a twofaced serpent, she’ll get to know you for a while, use you in the short term, see how much you have to offer her (usually physically and financially) compared to her ex-boyfriend, then make her choice…another time-honored symptom of the female supremacist contagion.

3) Most women have a carnal addiction to attention of any sort, so another oh-so common ruse is for the woman to communicate with both “new boyfriend” and “old boyfriend” during the transitional phase from one relationship to another. So don’t be surprised if you find text messages, emails, or phone calls from “ex-boyfriend” in her cell phone or online. This happened to a guy I work with, resulting in several violent break-ups.

4) It’s simply unhealthy for any sane person, male or female, to “move on” so quickly from any serious relationship. It usually results in both men in the “love triangle” becoming jaded to the situation, with the woman “moving on” without the slightest bit of guilt. “Girl Power!”

5) You never know how the ex-boyfriend will react to being cheated on. For instance, I read a story (I think back in 2008?) about a 20-something guy from New England who found out that his fiancé was cheating on him. Heartbroken and in a rage, the man pulled up to a random gas station, doused his entire body in gasoline and burned himself alive. I’m not sure why he reacted this way, as I can think of a far better manner in which to extract revenge upon a cheating whore and her new lover. You never know how the “other guy” will react. He could be glad to be rid of her, or fiercely incensed that he spent boatloads of money and time on this skank…only to get screwed over in the end.

As Jax mentioned, this is generally the modus operandi of Western Womanhood. Dramatic, deceptive, cruel, ectothermic, self-interested users with a scarcity of empathy, let alone a sense of “cause of effect.” You mentioned in this thread that you “just bought a new car.” In her mind, this material in your possession probably gave you the slight “edge” over her current boyfriend…who probably drives a “beater car” like me!

 

[BoxingSpecialist2]

Aren't you just looking to bang this chick? What better sign of a slut then someone that will drop her current boyfriend to hop in the sack with you?

And I thought you liked those Iranian girls because they weren't so westernized. Sounds like this one is a thorough "modern" woman.

My ex's that I dated for years, have been mainly Iranian and Afghan Muslim, they were very conservative and a bit religious. For example, they never drank alcohol at all, didn't go to bars or clubs, they go to Mosque, and they only date one guy. That's great character attributes to have in a wife or long-term partner.

However, with this new Iranian girl, you're 100% right, she is very "westernized" and "modern". She was born here in Canada, so I guess that's why. She drinks, has a lot of boyfriends, breaks up with them, and so on.

Ive had some long term relationships that didn't work out, and I'm in no rush to settle down right now. So, I'm just looking to enjoy my life and have fun. I will settle down later in life, probably in my 30's.

The point I'm making is that just because a girl is willing to break up with a guy to be with someone else doesn't mean she's a habitual cheater. She probably just moved on assuming you'd never come around.

Yes, this is a good point thanks for bringing that up. We've always liked each other (for 2 or 3 years now) but it's been hard to date because we've been with other people. As I said, actually, she probably has a longer history with me than with the male she is currently dating.

 

[BoxingSpecialist2]

I agree that “BoxingSpecialist” has been a good poster over the past few months, especially considering his anti-Zionist politics and boxing commentary. I believe he is a white Bosnian Muslim, so dating Middle Eastern women isn’t all that unnatural for him.

Thank you!

5) You never know how the ex-boyfriend will react to being cheated on. For instance, I read a story (I think back in 2008?) about a 20-something guy from New England who found out that his fiancé was cheating on him. Heartbroken and in a rage, the man pulled up to a random gas station, doused his entire body in gasoline and burned himself alive. I’m not sure why he reacted this way, as I can think of a far better manner in which to extract revenge upon a cheating whore and her new lover. You never know how the “other guy” will react. He could be glad to be rid of her, or fiercely incensed that he spent boatloads of money and time on this skank…only to get screwed over in the end.

As Jax mentioned, this is generally the modus operandi of Western Womanhood. Dramatic, deceptive, cruel, ectothermic, self-interested users with a scarcity of empathy, let alone a sense of “cause of effect.” You mentioned in this thread that you “just bought a new car.” In her mind, this material in your possession probably gave you the slight “edge” over her current boyfriend…who probably drives a “beater car” like me!

These are excellent points you bring up, especially the part I quoted! As I stated earlier, I do feel bad about the situation. I consider myself a male rights activist, so I never want to "burn" another male especially over a female (especially something as inconsequential as a date, not even a fiancee or wife). That's just stupid and we have enough of that in our society without me contributing to it.

I do feel bad for the guy. But as I said, I need to enjoy my life as well. Ive had relationships in the past where Ive broken up with females, and a year or so later, they're with a new guy. That's life. So, what goes around comes around. It's part of the "dating game" and of course I don't take anything personally. So I hope that her boyfriend now as well won't take anything personally about it. Also, Ive learned over my life that being a "nice guy" isn't a good thing. As I said, if the tables were reversed, Im sure that this guy wouldn't hesitate or even think twice about stealing my girlfriend.

I specifically demanded that she breakup with him before dating me, the reason I do that is so that its not cheating. I wouldn't want to be involved with a female who is in a relationship with another man. So I am showing him a bit of courtesy.

Also, as a final point let me just say that I won't get involved with my feelings, so even if she breaks up with me later on, that would be fine! I wouldn't really care to be honest. I just want to enjoy some temporary time with her, I'm not necessarily looking for long term. So she doesnt have any sort of "upperhand" on me.

 

[Colonel_Reb]

My advice is to forget about "dating" until you are ready to settle down and get married. Otherwise you are just going to needlessly endure more difficulty while trying to "enjoy your life" as you put it. You can have plenty of fun as a single man. Anyway, it doesn't make sense to start a relationship with a woman you aren't likely to settle down with. That would just be a waste of time, imho.

 

[Awake in America]

1) No, don't encourage her to break up with her boyfriend, and don't do her while she is with another guy. If she wants you, she should dump him. Meanwhile, you don't need to worry about it too much. There are plenty of fish in the sea. Find a good one. There are plenty of problems, so we don't need to go around making more for yourself and two other people.

2) Your penchant for middle-eastern to eastern women seems to be a thing. That's fine if it's your thing and all, but at 24, you are on the cusp of setting patterns that lead to settling down. If you don't want to be a Muslim, stop dating Muslim women. If you do want to be a Muslim, then God help you, and He is not Allah. It's actually pretty easy with the Afgan and Iranian girls, because they don't get much attention from the males of their own kind (whose attention is probably directed toward the nearest group of young boys). If it's the look of middle-eastern women that you like, there are better options; both racial and religious. Find a good woman that you like, and can talk to and with. They are out there. If you just want a hole with a burka around it, then God help you. Sorry if I am harsh, but I have no sympathy or tolerance for Islam. It's in the blood.

3) I don't have enough tenure on here to be an authority on whether or not you're a good poster, but I do appreciate the posts on boxing, because it's something I don't regularly follow, so it's nice to read the informed thoughts of those who do.

4) Your pictures. 20 years from now (or sooner), you will think two things: 1) I wish I still was in that kind of shape. 2) I can't believe I posted that online, WTF?.