College Football Conference Championships 2017

[Extra Point]

Googus is either black or a white liberal. He's clearly a black supremacist and an anti-white racist. His bigotry shows through his post.

I wonder how he likes using a personal computer or cell phone to type his message of hate, both invented by white people.

In fact, almost everything used in the modern world was invented by white people. The car, football, the TV you watch football on, modern architecture, the microphone, concrete, electricity delivery systems, plastic, the English language, the modern oven, the list is almost endless.

I wonder how he likes living in a world created by white people.

 

[Heretic]

I've mentioned my disappointment with Hornibrook in previous posts. Sometimes he looks great, sometimes he looks terrible. He's only a Sophomore, so he'll get better. Personally, I'm not fond of left-handed quarterbacks and would only recruit right-handed ones (what a bigot!)

Wisconsin drove down the field easily on their first drive but then Hornibrook gives up the INT on a very poor read. If they'd have just stuck to running it and punched it in on that drive or called a more high-percentage pass attempt to score or just to mix it up and get closer, I think things could have snowballed on OSU.

 

[Leonardfan]

Oh gotta love the cuck trolls.

Alabama was gifted a spot in the top 4 of the CFB.

 

[Heretic]

Googus is either black or a white liberal. He's clearly a black supremacist and an anti-white racist. His bigotry shows through his post.

I wonder how he likes using a personal computer or cell phone to type his message of hate, both invented by white people.

In fact, almost everything used in the modern world was invented by white people. The car, football, the TV you watch football on, modern architecture, the microphone, concrete, electricity delivery systems, plastic, the English language, the modern oven, the list is almost endless.

I wonder how he likes living in a world created by white people.

He's probably a cuck. Blacks, by and large, can't form proper sentences and typically have awful grammar. This "guy" appears to be able to spell correctly and uses proper grammar, so I'm guessing he's "white".

 

[celticdb15]

I've mentioned my disappointment with Hornibrook in previous posts. Sometimes he looks great, sometimes he looks terrible. He's only a Sophomore, so he'll get better. Personally, I'm not fond of left-handed quarterbacks and would only recruit right-handed ones (what a bigot!)

Wisconsin drove down the field easily on their first drive but then Hornibrook gives up the INT on a very poor read. If they'd have just stuck to running it and punched it in on that drive or called a more high-percentage pass attempt to score or just to mix it up and get closer, I think things could have snowballed on OSU.

You bigot ! Us Lefty's is da real minority!

Joking of course! But I am a Lefty! It's funny how Baseball covets left handed players and in particular throwers but in football it's a rarity.

*BTW I agree on Hornibrook. I'd like to see open competition between him and Jack Coan next year.

 

[Leonardfan]

He's probably a cuck. Blacks, by and large, can't form proper sentences and typically have awful grammar. This "guy" appears to be able to spell correctly and uses proper grammar, so I'm guessing he's "white".

I always find it bizarre that trolls come to this site to attack us. They have 99.99999% of the Internet devoted to their viewpoint of sports - worshiping black athletes/denigrating white athletes. They don't even have the ability to accept the discrimination against white athletes exists. They think "the best players play".

 

[Extra Point]

Steve Young, Boomer Esiason, Jim Zorn and Tim Tebow were all left handed quarterbacks. So there are good ones.

 

[Freethinker]

That cucked troll was right about one thing. Wisconsin isn't "our team". He's right to point out that they rely on a black running back and all black receivers. They also would never start a White corner back.

This team is the best the Caste System will allow us to have in the current year. Just as much as we are rightly angry about teams like Ohio State that only start 4 Whites we should be angry about the system that forces us to cheer for a Wisconsin team that relies heavily on blacks. This is all the Caste System at play. There are thousands of HS programs across the country that start all-White or close to all-White teams. Many of these teams consistently win their state championships. However, 90% or more of these players will be excluded from playing division I football.

We all know this and that is why arguing with a troll over 1 game, in a system that is rigged against our athletes, is a waste of time. Until the truth about the Caste System breaks through into the mainstream of America's consciousness, alot of the ups and downs of individual programs on a year to year basis is sort of trivial. At least that's my growing feeling on this sport.

 

[thereturnofthegoogus]

He's probably a cuck. Blacks, by and large, can't form proper sentences and typically have awful grammar. This "guy" appears to be able to spell correctly and uses proper grammar, so I'm guessing he's "white".

I'm a black guy actually.

 

[thereturnofthegoogus]

Wisconsin drove down the field easily on their first drive but then Hornibrook gives up the INT on a very poor read. If they'd have just stuck to running it and punched it in on that drive

...So who would've been running the ball for Wisconsin again? I think their starting running back might be a black.

 

[thereturnofthegoogus]

That cucked troll was right about one thing. Wisconsin isn't "our team". He's right to point out that they rely on a black running back and all black receivers. They also would never start a White corner back.

This team is the best the Caste System will allow us to have in the current year. Just as much as we are rightly angry about teams like Ohio State that only start 4 Whites we should be angry about the system that forces us to cheer for a Wisconsin team that relies heavily on blacks. This is all the Caste System at play. There are thousands of HS programs across the country that start all-White or close to all-White teams. Many of these teams consistently win their state championships. However, 90% or more of these players will be excluded from playing division I football.

We all know this and that is why arguing with a troll over 1 game, in a system that is rigged against our athletes, is a waste of time. Until the truth about the Caste System breaks through into the mainstream of America's consciousness, alot of the ups and downs of individual programs on a year to year basis is sort of trivial. At least that's my growing feeling on this sport.

Or maybe they just might recruit and start players based on how good they are? Again, it's hilarious to me that the same people that run around telling blacks to shut up about racism and that the reason they don't succeed in life is because they're incompetent believe that the white people that run most college football programs and recruiting websites are engaged in a nationwide conspiracy to heavily recruit and start black players. And, on top of that, you assume that this is all being done, mostly by white males, to undermine white males. Do you honestly think these coaches who constantly have their fans on their asses about not going undefeated and winning national championships every other year are refusing to recruit and start white players, even when they're better than black players, just so they can have a certain desirable racial makeup on their teams? That makes no logical sense even in theory (especially when you consider the fact that the most racist states in the country have state schools with football programs full of black players). Maybe, just maybe the majority of the white players who don't play D1 football aren't that great. Great teams can be great without having D1 caliber star players.

 

[Leonardfan]

Or maybe they just might recruit and start players based on how good they are? Again, it's hilarious to me that the same people that run around telling blacks to shut up about racism and that the reason they don't succeed in life is because they're incompetent believe that the white people that run most college football programs and recruiting websites are engaged in a nationwide conspiracy to heavily recruit and start black players. And, on top of that, you assume that this is all being done, mostly by white males, to undermine white males. Do you honestly think these coaches who constantly have their fans on their asses about not going undefeated and winning national championships every other year are refusing to recruit and start white players, even when they're better than black players, just so they can have a certain desirable racial makeup on their teams? That makes no logical sense even in theory (especially when you consider the fact that the most racist states in the country have state schools with football programs full of black players). Maybe, just maybe the majority of the white players who don't play D1 football aren't that great. Great teams can be great without having D1 caliber star players.

Recruiters will not recruit white players at certain positions based on race - this has been well documented. Look at the high school thread and ask yourself why so many very good white players are not being recruited. Sports in American society is a racial spoils system - the first requirement is that a person must be black. Think of it as essentially Affirmative Action - you should be very familiar with that since you are black. There was a time when I rooted for black athletes but it has past as I have become aware of the systematic discrimination white players face. Think of the white coaches and recruiters who discriminate against white players as "Uncle Toms". Listen to broadcasts as they describe white players as "not the best athletes", "gym rats", "over-achievers", "blue collar". I didn't come to this site because I believed in some conspiracy - I am just an aware individual who started to question why things are the way they are, did some research and connected the dots. You have nothing to question as you are part of a group that believes they are "oppressed" but are in reality the most coddled racial group in the US in which collectively you are not to be blamed for anything - whites are to blame/the system is to blame/white privilege etc.

 

[Heretic]

Recruiters will not recruit white players at certain positions based on race - this has been well documented. Look at the high school thread and ask yourself why so many very good white players are not being recruited. Sports in American society is a racial spoils system - the first requirement is that a person must be black. Think of it as essentially Affirmative Action - you should be very familiar with that since you are black. There was a time when I rooted for black athletes but it has past as I have become aware of the systematic discrimination white players face. Think of the white coaches and recruiters who discriminate against white players as "Uncle Toms". Listen to broadcasts as they describe white players as "not the best athletes", "gym rats", "over-achievers", "blue collar". I didn't come to this site because I believed in some conspiracy - I am just an aware individual who started to question why things are the way they are, did some research and connected the dots. You have nothing to question as you are part of a group that believes they are "oppressed" but are in reality the most coddled racial group in the US in which collectively you are not to be blamed for anything - whites are to blame/the system is to blame/white privilege etc.

I haven't mentioned the whole High School situation in a while that Freethinker brought up a few posts ago because I didn't want to sound like a broken record.

But, it's probably a good idea to mention it every few months for any new lurkers. A good instance I remember just a few years ago was when BSPN was showing Johnny Stanton play QB for Santa Margarita on some Friday Night game. What actually stood out to me though in that game was the Santa Margarita White defenders (maybe starting 7-8) and they were completely dominant, making plays everywhere, stuffing the run, etc. Then, eventually, BSPN mentions which players have received football scholarships and the only White ones on Santa Margarita were Stanton and a couple of White OL. I think there were a couple of black defensive backs that were offered and a black WR, if I remember correctly. Anyway, not one of those White defensive players was offered a scholarship.

Also, keep in mind, always keep in mind, that elite NFL players like J.J. Watt and Jordy Nelson did not initially receive athletic scholarships but had to WALK ON. Why? If that's the case, how many others like them have fallen through the Caste cracks into the memory hole and dustbin of football history?

 

[Carolina Speed]

I'm glad you found a silver lining in the fact that there are two great white players on a team that had a bunch of black guys making plays all over the field last night against your white-friendly team. Unlike the race-obsessed individuals on this forum, I can give credit where its due regardless of race so I don't doubt that they did a great deal to contribute to Ohio State's win over Wisconsin and that they'll likely end up playing pro football because they're talented players. However, I do find it odd that you picked out two white guys as the two most talented players on the field when neither of led in any statistical category on their own team's defense. The best performer on OSU's defense (if not the best defensive performer of the game) was, sorry to tell you, a black guy named Jerome Baker (16 tackles, 12 solo tackles, 1 sack, 2 tackles for loss). Bosa had 4 tackles, 2 solo tackles, 1 sack, 2 tackles for loss, and 2 QB hurries while Hubbard had just 2 tackles and 1 solo tackle. I'm not surprised at the ridiculous lack of objectivity at this point but it seems pretty damn silly from the outside looking in. The great black running back was up against all of the great black players on Ohio State's defense (including the one that led the team in tackles) who gave Wisconsin's impenetrable white offensive line along with those two great white defensive linemen. And of course it's not as black/white as I'm making it, all I'm doing is applying the same measuring stick to this game as you guys do to every other game, y'all frequently ignore context in order to slander black players and praise white ones. That's the point of the site. So if my analysis seems ridiculous to you, you may need to do some soul searching.

Welcome to the board Googus. First, the purpose of CF is not to slander anyone. Do you know the meaning of slander? No one here is slandering anyone. If they do, normally our administrator will put a stop to it.
The purpose of CF is to discuss football and other sports. It is also to yes, give attention and praise to white athletes who do face discrimination because they are white. I know it may be difficult for you to believe, however it has been well documented. It's very difficult for me to believe that you don't know this, especially when someone such as Christian McCaffrey, Toby Gerhardt, etc. make it to D-1 football or the NFL one of the first things discussed is their race. I as well as others here will not go into detail, but go through the vast amount of threads and you will see that clearly it's true.
Googus, if you are indeed black and someone said to you in public that you would not be hired for a position, because you're black. What do you think would happen? I think you know. What happens when an all state white RB who has faster 40 times, shuttle times, etc. leads a state in rushing and is told by D-1 college football coaches they will not recruit him because he is white? Nothing. He ends up walking on or attending a D-1AA, or D-2 school, even though he's better than most blacks he has played against and also has a better GPA to boot. I won't get into admission requirements other than to say that most black athletes do not have the GPA or grades to get into D-1 universities. I said most, not all. That's not slander, it's a fact.
Googus, most here have no problem pointing out a great athlete no matter the color, but that's not the purpose of this forum...and certainly there shouldn't be any slander. If so please feel free to point it out and it will be corrected.
I hope you'll return.

 

[Shadowlight]

Since for the first time since the playoffs were enacted two teams from the same conference have gotten in. The SEC of course with caste bastions Alabama and Georgia. A deeper look into this caste heaven, although by all means there are other conferences just as black oriented, it seems the caste bent has accelerated rather than just stalled. For instance anyone care to do research but I could have sworn I saw ZERO DB's play and that includes back ups. If true is that a first in league history?

There were ZERO running backs as far as I can tell and that includes back ups but I am guessing that wouldn't be completely out of the norm. Then again back when there at least were a few here and there. I am sure he has been mentioned but does anybody remember the strange career of Auburn RB Tre Smith? As a freshman in 2002 he had a 79-454 stat line and was considered a key component going into the next season. He had some injuries but he never gained much traction after that. His next decent season was 2005 with a 56-285 stat line a year he also returned 26 punts. As I recall he was sharing duties as a RB. He was a nifty player with quickness. QB Fitzgerald ran really well but he was an anomaly and of course not a RB.

So how did white WR's fare in the SEC this season. Barely there is the word. Josh Smith of Tennessee just faded out of the scene in his final year. As far as I can tell there were only TWO WR's that placed in the top 75. At 68 was senior Vandy Caleb Scott with a 18-178 stat line. And back to Auburn speedster Will Hastings had a 20-403-3 big play stat line but it is worth noting he was all but ignored in the late stretches of the season despite dynamite big plays early on in the season.

And to add to the trouble there were very few white defensive players. A minute amount all told.

So there you have it. A conference that just makes me SICK!!!

 

[Shadowlight]

The ACC represented by Clemson has a better score than the SEC but it wouldn't take much. More diverse all the way around the ACC has a few bright spots. In general there are more white defenders but again overall lacking in the DB area. The most notable DB is Tanner Muse of Clemson who is an NFL prospect.

On the RB end at number 38 is speedster Nate Cottrell with a stat line of 33-219. Only a sophomore expect bigger things next season as he is used as the "speed" swing spot in the option. He also returns KO's but didn't have a splash play. At 42 is WF Cade Carney with a 56-219 stat line which was a disappointment.

Braxton Berrios, who also returns punts, had a nice 52-634-9 stat line for Miami at 14. A borderline pro prospect he also is a PR. Playing for Miami my guess is he was an aberration and don't expect to see anymore white WR's there anytime soon. His Hispanic name is the only reason I can think of that got him on their gridiron.
At 21 was Huner Renfrow a favorite here and with NFL scouts. His stat line was 55-571-3. Hopefully he can make some dynamic plays in the playoff(s).
At 37 is Austin Proehl who missed most of the season. His stat line was 21-337. Very smooth player I like a lot with good genes.
At 43 junior Alex Bachman with a stat line of 16-281-3. Underused with one more year to make a splash.

Worth noting Proehl and GT WR Brad Stewart are used as PR's.

While not revolutionary at least the ACC had a few skill players and makes the conference , in general, far more appealing than the SEC.

 

[Shadowlight]

Since I started this I will try and "power" my way through the Five Power Conferences. Next up is the Pac 12. Living on the East Coast I have never been a big Pac 12 fan and I have been under the impression there should be more white players out there on both sides of the ball. A feeling I can never shake. They are not as caste as the SEC but their lack of white WR's of import is a constant disappointment.

WR list includes Kyle Sweet at 24 with a 50-401 stat line. Trent Irwin is at 29 with an underused stat line of 40-444. At 32 is Jay MacIntyre with a 28-396 and he is the HC's son. Former S Brenden Schooler is at 54 with an 18-245 stat line. Only Irwin has a chance at the NFL it seems at this point and he has one more year to become the star he was destined to become coming out of High School.

Coming off CM's great career things are better with the RB's and this is an area the Pac 12 has the other conferences beat. At number 7 is breakthrough player of the year ( along with WV's WR David Sills) Patrick Laird with a 191-1127-8 stat line to go along with 45 catches for 322 yards. Like WR Chad Hansen last season Cal has unveiled another possible NFL prospect. At 11 is Ryan Nall with a 165-810-8 stat line. He also hauled in 27 passes for 240 yards. From where I am standing both meet the "requirements" to get drafted and play in the NFL. We will have to wait and see. Both are juniors but Nall may declare. If he does he better be invited to the combine. His team Oregon State is bloody awful. Two other young RB's that might get more carries next season are speedster Sean McGrew of Washington and Beau Bisharat of Colorado. We can only hope.

 

[Shadowlight]

The Big 12 is another conference that disappoints me year after year. Take Oklahoma. They have a flashy white QB and a TE in Mark Andrews who to me is a cross between Jason Witten and Russ Francis(going back a bit). But the rest of the Oklahoma team is pretty much black. What jumps out most is an all black defense with nary a white reserve in sight. And this is not uncommon in this league. And no matter how many points a lot of these black Big 12 defenses give up you will NEVER hear it is because they lack athleticism a charge that is constantly aimed at Big 10's slightly whiter defenses. But again overall the Big 12 is nowhere near as repugnant as the SEC. Although like the SEC they are ALLERGIC to white RB's. Are there any?

The WR slot was arguably the best of any league. Emerging deep threat David Sills at 7 had a dynamic 60-980-16TD!!!! stat line but his numbers trailed off dramatically the last month of the season. One to monitor closely next season. Should be a player who gets drafted.Next at 12 was Dylan Cantrell a rangy player with a 67-790-6 stat line. At 20 was freshman Dillon Stoner with a 40-341-5 stat line. At 23 perhaps out for the Bowl game with a broken collarbone is sophomore Dalton Schoen who showed a ton of promise with his speed and a 23-470-3 stat line That is over 20 yards per catch which I like to see in white WR's who are too often used as dink and dunk garbage pale types. At 24 is versatile Trever Ryen with a 46-465 stat line. He has speed and can do so many things I would draft him. Hapless Kansas had a couple of WR's with Tyler Patrick and coverted RB speedster Ryan Schadler but neither one put up impressive numbers.

The Big 12 at least has a chance to improve on their "white skill ratios" so I would hope to see more improvement along those lines the next several years.

 

[Shadowlight]

Last but not least is the Big 10 who qualifies as my favorite conference but at the end of the day that is still not saying much because they don't have a great white ratio skill level that is anywhere near satisfactory. But no other conference will field teams that often employ multiple white WR's like Northwestern and Iowa either. In general there is more of a defensive presence although it seems the lack of DB's is an ongoing ultra annoying trend throughout the Power 5 conferences. Only Penn State S Troy Apke sticks out in my mind (albeit Iowa usually fields a white S) and he looked impressive but what are the chances he gets invited to the Combine?

Two freshman RB's of note. At 24 and coming on was Cole Gest with a nice 24-428 stat line. Injured Mike Epstein was at 30 with a 57-346 stat line. Made a huge impression early. I suspect both will become bigger factors next season and yet another freshman back up Garrett Groshek of Wisconsin dazzled whenever he got a chance to fill in. He landed at 33 with a 57-294 stat line and made a big play in the championship game. At 50 was MD Jake Funk with a 27-154-4 stat line.

While not as impressive as the Big 12 at the top the Big Ten has more depth at WR. Rangy from Northwestern Bennett Skowronek at 10 had a 42-619-5 stat line. His teammates Flynn Nagel (47-403) and senior Macon Wilson (32-446) fill out a WR corps that featured three white players a true rarity in college football these days. And to think they also fielded dynamic freshman Riley Lees out there at times too. Lees was a KR and PR who made a spectacular PR TD play a few weeks back that the refs unjustly took away from him on a minor push near the sidelines after Lees was long gone. A true travesty and I hope for the young man's sake can make it up next season. See below a video of the punt return and the announcers didn't notice the flag because it was so late. On the sidelines you can see a barely out of bounds touch and that is what was called,. A truly bogus moment robbing the young player of his opening salvo.

Luke Timian sits at 12 with a 68-589 stat line. One of my favorite teams this season was Iowa who thrilled and disappointed. They have two talented WR's who were under utilized. At 21 is Nick Easley with a 50-498 stat line. Too many dink and dunks so next season I hope they get him in space more to make better use of his quickness. Time is up for Matt VanderBerg who at 35 had a 27-435 stat line. Iffy NFL prospects but I personally say why not? I like his talent. At 32 was freshman Jackson Anthrop with a 44-391-5 stat line and again too many dink and dunks here. Mike Dudek started off strong but faded with some injuries. Nice to have this once freshman dynamo back but too many injuries have robbed him of any NFL aspirations. C J Saunders is a back up at Ohio State who reeled in 17 passes for 221. Might get more touches next year.

So that is the end of my Power 5 2017 review. Not great. Could be worse but could get appreciably even lousier. It really wouldn't take much to make me feel better about the state of college football, some more bones here and there and I still think there is a lot of room for improvement. Overall though it is still very frustrating. But one thing to be grateful for is not all the major conferences are the SEC.

 

[celticdb15]

Yet goofy googus keeps coming back! Can't get this site out of his head haha.

 

[Carolina Speed]

I call complete and total BS on the fact that coaches are recruiting players on literally everything except for how good they are when good players make sure they stay employed. I doubt Dabo Swinney is recruiting and starting a bunch of black players because he doesn’t think they’re going to give him a better chance to win than the white guys he didn’t recruit. I think if the same level of individual talent existed amongst white players at the high school level, you’d see them at the next level but per capita you don’t see that. There aren’t as many great white prospects at skill positions as black ones but when they’re good they get recruited. Sam McGuffie had the best college programs by the balls when he was in high school and he was playing one of the blackest positions in football. Just give me one good reason why you believe such a phenomenon would exist beyond coaches wanting the best players. And, lastly, please tell me who else is to blame for this phenomenon other than white people?

Who said in public that either of those Stanford backs shouldn’t be allowed to play because they’re white? That wasn’t a good analogy.Pointing out the fact that you don’t see something very often (a white running back or a black software engineer) isn’t the same as openly denying them a job based on their race. And with all of the race baiting hoaxes in the news I would have to see something in writing or hear a recording of a recruiter saying verbatim what you claim a can’t miss white running back prospect was told to believe that. Honestly, that doesn’t seem to be the case. Every black quarterback is a black quarterback (whether he’s good or bad), every black DB or receiver is an overrated afflete, every game winning or critical play where a white player and a black player is involved was solely a good play on the part of the white player and if he doesn’t get all of the glory there’s a problem. It’s obvious you guys do have a problem acknowledging good players of all stripes because you constantly talk poorly about black players regardless of context and give them all of the blame but none of the praise. It fits your narrative but good lord...

I got some responses so yeah I came back. You have anything else to say or just the jeer?

I've got plenty to say. Unfortunately I don't have the time right now. You have answered some of the questions I asked. I guess those are the ones you thought you had answers to. But I'll ask another one. Find one post where I talked poorly about a black player. You called BS on the fact that coaches wouldn't recruit white players at certain positions. No one ever said this happened to Gerhardt or McCaffrey. Their race was brought up as white RB's in the NFL and questions about their ability followed them through out their careers. I can't speak for Gerhardt, but the only reason we're seeing McCaffrey is because his dad was an NFL player. He had connections. McCaffrey's numbers were good in HS, but their were far better numbers of white RB's throughout the country that didn't get the attention he did. No D-1 offers.
It's not BS. I heard with my own ears more than one D-1 college recruiter/coach say they wouldn't offer a scholarship to a white RB. Dabo Swinney WAS NOT one of those coaches, however he had the opportunity to offer an ALL STATE white RB whom he knew was a great kid and had all the numbers. I can present them if you like, but chose not to. Instead, he offered other black RB's with far less numbers. If you want to call BS, then you're calling me a liar! Then you're the one whose slandering.
Yes, white people are to blame for most of the atrocities of the NCAA. As I said most black athletes don't have the grades to get into D-1 colleges. That's not an insult or slander that's a fact....and yes that's because mostly white people are responsible for letting them in. I noticed you didn't have much to say about that.
Again, welcome to the CF forum.
I enjoy having opposing views, but nothing I've said is untrue. Stick around. You may learn something. However, let's be truthful and stick to the facts.