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It's not a point of working hard. With blacks, whenever they go into something they set up areas that they think become theirs, whether it be the lowly jobs in a hospital, lowly jobs on construction sites (flagmen), and in the NFL, WR, RB, DB, most LB's, etc. If a white attempts to gain access to any of these fields, the blacks will sabotage his efforts - not blocking, committing fouls, hurting him, etc. Obviously, the coaches know this and rarely try and go against this defacto black dominance of the team.
Wrong! Blacks have nothing to do with your child when he's 8,9, 10, etc. years old and he's coming up playing football, baseball, track etc. The child at that age has to determine how much he wants it in most cases. Too many white parents let their kids sit around doing basically nothing or worshiping others on video games. Now, sometimes when you get to the HS or college level a white coach can keep white talent from playing certain positions. However, if the child has worked and trained up to that point, he can prove his ability and make in the RB position. I know from experience.
Most people here at CF know that I raised an ALL STATE RB!
I don't know much, but I along with my sons HARD WORK got him there, until a devastating knee injury side tracked his career.
 
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Wrong! Blacks have nothing to do with your child when he's 8,9, 10, etc. years old and he's coming up playing football, baseball, track etc. The child at that age has to determine how much he wants it in most cases. Too many white parents let their kids sit around doing basically nothing or worshiping others on video games. Now, sometimes when you get to the HS or college level a white coach can keep white talent from playing certain positions. However, if the child has worked and trained up to that point, he can prove his ability and make in the RB position. I know from experience.
Most people here at CF know that I raised an ALL STATE RB!
I don't know much, but I along with my sons HARD WORK got him there, until a devastating knee injury side tracked his career.
I'm not sure how influential the media is in brainwashing children. When my eldest was 8 he said his friends were all convinced black people were more athletic. I certainly did not raise him to think this but his friends seem to think it, and I live in a community with like 8 black people total out of 1000. So I would say it may persuade certain kids to pursue other activities
 

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I'm not sure how influential the media is in brainwashing children. When my eldest was 8 he said his friends were all convinced black people were more athletic. I certainly did not raise him to think this but his friends seem to think it, and I live in a community with like 8 black people total out of 1000. So I would say it may persuade certain kids to pursue other activities
You have to go out and prove them wrong!! My son started running track to improve his speed at 10 years old. The track team was all black in sprints. By the second year of running he was the fastest guy on the 4x100 team. He had a black coach who trained him. The black coaches son was the fastest until my son started beating him. My point is there were already black kids training to run at 6-7 years old. My son was 3 years behind, but had the competitive edge and ended up being faster than his black teammates. His black coach had no problem with that. He took it as a compliment to his coaching.
I have STRESSED this so many times here on CF. You have to want it.
 

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Carolina Speed is correct, and Tom Iron is, too. of course there is a bias against White athletes at the “black” positions, but those biases, even as strong as they are, can be overcome. it will take a lot of brutally hard work AND a lot of luck (as well as talent), but it can be done. the only other option is to do what most White people have done: concede completely to the blacks.

i am unwilling to take that position. thus, i encourage young White athletes on a regular basis to go for it, with the caveats that they must not only believe in themselves but also work harder than anyone else. without both of those things being held as true, the Caste System will never be overcome.
 
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Anyone who's worked in a hospital knows that the position of "Charge Nurse" is considered black "turf," typically occupied by a loud, fat black woman.

But we can't give up and we certainly shouldn't tell our kids to give up. When my children get old enough to compete in sports I want them to fight, to see athletes like McCaffrey as a role model.
 

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Anyone who's worked in a hospital knows that the position of "Charge Nurse" is considered black "turf," typically occupied by a loud, fat black woman.

But we can't give up and we certainly shouldn't tell our kids to give up. When my children get old enough to compete in sports I want them to fight, to see athletes like McCaffrey as a role model.

If they get into a sport that requires speed, which most do, I would suggest getting involved with a track and field coach that knows what they're doing. Go compete either with or against black athletes. I say that because they seem to get out and compete early and often where I'm from. McCaffrey ran track. Go out and squash the stereotype and myth early.
 

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Yeah as much as I enjoy McCaffrey, I enjoyed the physical running of Hillis more. Hopefully McCaffrey's athleticism can shatter stereotypes. I feel like Sam McGuffie could have been a similar case had he not been started his true freshman year. There was a ton of hype and he needed to add on a few pounds, and it appeared as if multiple people were targeting him due to the fame. I don't think he was the same after the 3 concussions his freshman year. I saw glimpses during his time at Rice but he was moved to slot receiver.
Me too, I just prefer that style like Csonka, Riggins, Campbell, Alstott, Okoye, etc. Also they need to get a big bodied handcuff for McCaffrey, Rip is floating around and looked nimble the one season he was a running fullback under McCarthy.

The only flaw McCaffrey has is his size, also a big back could save some wear and tear on his body.
 
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the only way a white young man can make it to the NFL today as a running back is that he's got to be exceptional. he's got to be so great no one can deny how great he is. that is a very high bar. Meanwhile mediocre black kids are a dime a dozen......
 

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With 5 games left in the season, Christian McCaffrey only has a 6 yard lead over Nick Chubb from the Cleveland Browns. Hoping he can finish the season out
strong and stay healthy. I remember Thielen and Welker both leading the nfl in receiving yards most of the season only to fall short in the final few games. I don't
want to see that happen to Cmac. Hoping for the Panthers to find a way to make a wild card playoff spot(doubtful) but mainly for Cmac to lead the nfl in rushing. It
will give him the best chance of winning the NFL MVP Award. Yes he is a long shot as running backs rarely win but we still have a chance. At the very least winning the
nfl rushing title is a statement that he is by far the best running back in the NFL. If you combine his rushing & receiving yards it's not even close! :)

https://www.espn.com/nfl/stats
 

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Well, week 13 will see Christian play 2-9 Redskins whereas Chubb has rivals Steelers on the agenda. I'm hoping CMac will break a few long ones and get back over 100 rushing!
 

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With 5 games left in the season, Christian McCaffrey only has a 6 yard lead over Nick Chubb from the Cleveland Browns. Hoping he can finish the season out
strong and stay healthy. I remember Thielen and Welker both leading the nfl in receiving yards most of the season only to fall short in the final few games. I don't
want to see that happen to Cmac. Hoping for the Panthers to find a way to make a wild card playoff spot(doubtful) but mainly for Cmac to lead the nfl in rushing. It
will give him the best chance of winning the NFL MVP Award. Yes he is a long shot as running backs rarely win but we still have a chance. At the very least winning the
nfl rushing title is a statement that he is by far the best running back in the NFL. If you combine his rushing & receiving yards it's not even close! :)

https://www.espn.com/nfl/stats
Yes, if you count total yards from scrimmage he is 237 yards ahead of Dalvin Cook and 368 ahead of Nick Chubb, and 16 total touchdowns compared to 11 and 7. I just hope his teammates don't give up because like you said I doubt they get a wildcard spot at this point.
 

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Yes, if you count total yards from scrimmage he is 237 yards ahead of Dalvin Cook and 368 ahead of Nick Chubb, and 16 total touchdowns compared to 11 and 7. I just hope his teammates don't give up because like you said I doubt they get a wildcard spot at this point.

Excellent point gentlemen, without a playoff spot, MVP seems to be an extreme long shot. Worse yet, if the Vikings don't make the playoffs, CMAC won't even be starting at running back in the Pro Bowl...As Dalvin currently leads in the NFC voting?
 

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Eh, I could not care any les about Pro Bowl. It's a clown fiesta at best of times.
 

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Eh, I could not care any les about Pro Bowl. It's a clown fiesta at best of times.

Agreed. Couldn't tell you last time I tuned in to a Pro Bowl. Being named a Pro Bowler is still an honor in name only basically.
 

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Even though he hasn't scored in two weeks, CMac had his 7th consecutive (11th of the season) game with over 100 yards from scrimmage. Also, McCaffrey, who had 11 catches versus the Falcons, now has eight career games with at least 10 receptions, the most by any running back in NFL history.
 

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Crazy that dwfs don't see a double standard. Can you imagine if the NFL only had one black guy drafted to be a franchise qb in a 30 year period and he sets passing records? They are giving multiple black quarterbacks chances every year and only getting lucky once in a blue moon. It's probably been longer than that, Vardell was drafted early in the 90s but was used mostly as a fullback. Alstott was mostly used in short yardage. Gerhart was not drafted to be a featured guy , he had to sit his prime years behind Peterson and Hillis only got a chance due to multiple injuries on 2 different teams and produced results each time. He just wasn't so lucky with his last couple of teams .
 

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Well Christian is now generally considered to be the best running back in football. He's now in 3rd place for the rushing title losing ground in that dismal unimaginative Carolina offense - though he does get the ball plenty. I've never really like Norv Turner especially after his days in San Diego because of his insistence in turning Doug Flutie into a traditional under the center I-formation quarterback when quite obvious to anyone Flutie was made for the shotgun. The I-formation (giving a fullback to a good tailback) is IMO the best formation for a consistent a running game. So, when McCaffrey went to Carolina I expected some I-formation - a formation McCaffrey excelled at in college. What we got instead is single set back with an unusually high number of shotgun formations (a horrible formation to run out of with a traditional QB). How do these offensive coordinators always screw our guys? I've watched just about every Carolina game and I can't name the fullback - do they even have one? Just my thoughts for the morning. Who else wants to see McCaffrey run out of the I?
 

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They have a fullback but I too don't recall any power formations, so the question is why have one on the roster to begin with? Anyway here is a story about him doing a citizens arrest on a car thief, note the optics on this situation........
 

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I don't understand why more offenses don't utilize the pistol formation since it gives you the benefit of both shotgun and the I formation. It's mostly used for black quarterbacks but it doesn't necessarily have to be used that way.

If I were the coordinator I would be lining up Christian under center more frequently as well. I am firmly convinced that if he really put his mind to it he could be a decent passer. Just maybe like 10 snaps a game to throw defenses off

I think the reason for the bland play-calling is also partially the reason why more White players don't get a chance. The small chance that if you do something out of the ordinary and it doesn't work you have everyone second guessing you. Right now most teams run alot of passing formations and not power running .

I wish I could be an NFL coach because I wouldn't care, after one season I would be set for life financially. I would actually do whatever I deemed necessary to win.
Most coaches don't buck the trend and wind up being recycled to another team after not having previous success.
 

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Have been tracking CM's receptions. He has 273 through 45 career games. Just happen to look up the fastest ever to 300 career receptions, if the record still stands is held by Odell Beckham. 300 receptions in 45 games. However, Beckham was 25 when he set the record. McCaffrey is just 23. Has to be a record, age wise?
 

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with two weeks to go McCaffrey still leads the league in TDs (18, one more than Aaron Jones from GB), he's by far first in yards from scrimmage with 2121 (about 550 over the next player, Chubb), is tied with Jones for rushing TDs - 14, has 1,307 yards, 101 less than leader, Chubb (McCaffrey is third, also slightly behind Henry). He actually still has a shot at both 1000/1000 club (needs 186 yards, so it's gonna be tough), 100 catches - he's only 6 short of his second 100 catch season) and, if he has a great game or two solid ones, he actually is within range of Chris Johnson's total yards from scrimmage record: 2,509.
 

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Getting spoiled by the success of CMac. Him putting up ridiculous numbers is becoming part of the norm and I love it.
 

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Its a shame he won't get the rushing title but this is one of the best seasons for a RB ever. I don't think even anyone on CF would've believed me If I said 5 years ago a white RB would be an MVP candidate for half the season, top 3 in rushing yards, 1st in receiving for a RB and 1st for touchdowns after Week 15 of 2019. A truly groundbreaking year for white RBs.

While some may argue that DWFs and BSPN analyst will dismiss him as an outlier. I think at this point over the last 30 years its been so bad for white RBs that we just need a guy who can play like an elite pro bowl/ potential HoF RB to dismiss the myth of "white people aren't athletic enough to play RB" BS that we all know is embedded in the minds of DWFs and brothas. I feel like Christian will lay the groundwork for more white running backs to get a serious shot in the league and in college. Discrimination will still exist but with young white athletes seeing CMC tearing up the league and making pro bowls he will inspire them to play RB and hopefully challenge the caste bias we know is held by all college recruiters and NFL GMs to reject promising white athletes especially at the RB position.
 
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