C.C. "White WR's Dont Get Enought Credit for their Athleticism"

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This has opened up as can of worms...& interesting replies in comment section...White WR's & Black QB's...think there are more than 17 white WR's on opening-day rosters this season...i'll have to look for list i made

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Cris Carter: White WRs don't get enough credit for their athleticism

By Ryan Wilson | CBSSports.com
November 18, 2015 1:00 pm ET

Usually the conversation is about black quarterbacks, but ESPN analyst and Hall of Famer Cris Carter made a case on Tuesday about why white NFL wide receivers don't get the same recognition as their non-white counterparts.

“I just don't think they give them credit," he said during an appearance on Mike & Mike. "They make excuses, they say it's the system, they say it's the quarterback. But a guy has a certain skill set and that means if he plays outside, plays inside, to me they are very, very good athletes. And they don't give them credit for their athleticism. Kind of like when Serena (Williams) was always playing tennis and people would always talk about how powerful she was and how her serve was so great, they never talked about her intellect or her strategy, which now has taken her game to another level. But earlier in her career, they never, ever talked about that and I think that had something to do with race.”

According to SportsGrid, there were 185 wide receivers on NFL rosters last season and 17 were white. Two -- the Packers' Jordy Nelson and the Patriots' Julian Edelman -- were among the top 10 in receptions (98 and 92, respectively). Nelson's 2015 season ended before it started -- he suffered a torn ACL in August -- and Edelman will be out 6-8 weeks after breaking his foot last Sunday. Still, three white receivers, are among the league's best, according to Football Outsiders' metrics; the Jets' Eric Decker and Edelman are top 10 in total WR value while the Pats' Danny Amendola ranks 7th in value per play among WRs.

Still, not a season goes by that an undersized, quick slot receiver with great hands isn't compared to Wes Welker (see the Cowboys' Cole Beasley, for example).
Sure, it's a compliment, but it's also lazy, much in the same way those Cam Newton-Daunte Culpepper and Robert Griffin III-Michael Vick comparisons were lazy. This narrative feeds the perception that white athletes have to work hard for the same success that black athletes reach through their God-given talents.

"I believe the celebration with Cam Newton has something to do with race, but I evaluate wide receivers and I evaluate what they can do and what they can't do, how to utilize them within their offense, not what color they are or limiting their athletic ability, in my mind, before I look at the tape," Carter said. "And Jordy Nelson is one of the best route runners, very, very explosive, a deep threat and can run any route in the route tree and is great with the ball in his hands after the catch.

"Now, Edelman is a tremendous slot receiver, has great short area quickness, has the understandability to read the defense and great chemistry with Tom Brady," Carter continued. "I believe he's just as good as Troy Brown was but people give credit to Troy Brown for being good, and I think Wes Welker and Edelman and some other guys don't get credit because they're white. And when people evaluate them they think that they're less athletes or products of the system and I just don't think that's fair to what they're doing and what they're accomplishing."

This is more a media creation than anything; players aren't going around calling Edelman, "a helluva white wide receiver!" In fact, we're guessing Brady will miss Edelman for one very simple reason: he's a huge part of the Patriots' offense.


"When someone's really integral to part of basically everything you're doing, and then you lose that person, it may take a little bit to kind of figure out how you can move things around and get comfortable with what you're doing," Brady said earlier this week. "Because you want to have a lot of confidence in the things that you're doing."

Which is exactly what Brady had when he was throwing to Troy Brown, Deion Branch, David Givens and Randy Moss.
 
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The Sports media is its own worst enemy, they single handedly are destroying their own moral authority, with basic stupidity. That is why I am not a perma pessimist as some here are prone to the we are doomed forever and ever mindset.

The Caste System is disqualifying itself, so help it along.
 

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Carter doesn't touch on the most important reason why White receivers and White football players in general are thought of as inferior by so many fans -- the extreme affirmative action followed by major college programs when it comes to recruiting, giving out scholarships, and developing White talent. Of course he's not going to touch on the linchpin of the Caste System even if he's aware of it, which he probably isn't given the often unwarranted high opinion of themselves so many blacks have.

It's clear from the comments I read that the DWFs aren't aware of it either. They trade arguments about whether White receivers are unfairly branded, oblivious to the fact that there would be so many more of them if college football gave top White high school talent the same opportunities blacks get.
 

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Even though Carter only told part of the story, I commend him for bringing up the subject. Very few whites in the main stream media will touch the issue. They don't want to risk losing their paychecks. They are all sellouts but with the dollars they make part of me understands why they don't rock the boat. I wish they would though. The truth would make the NFL so much more enjoyable. The same with college. To actually recruit me merritt and not just by ethnicity & stereotypes.
 

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Good observation Carter! Too bad blacks are the only ones given free passes to talk about and acknowledge race in NFL.
 

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Cris Carter: White WRs don't get enough credit for their athleticism ...

even a broken clock is right twice a day.

and knowing something of Carter's past, he probably broke the clock by beating his wife with it. heh.
 
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