Bush sticking with the "didn't want to scare the kiddies" excuse for sitting on his ass with his eye

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The only "smoke and mirrors" conclusion is the official government version as only they have the power to do this. On the converse, the only ones displaying any logic are the ones questioning the official version.

"only they have the power to do this"

Like keeping multi-trillion dollar NORAD completely out of the picture for almost two hours while four hijacked jet liners lazily zig zagged all over the northeast US in the most highly guarded airspace in the world on the highest alert day in US history, while the president chatted about pet goats at a publicly pre-announced photo op, and the vice president in the White House basement barked out orders to DO NOTHING about one plane incoming, even tho any normal passenger plane that loses contact with ATC on any normal day in the most obscure place draws a NORAD reaction in minutes.

It's no use trying to debate with them or reason with them or put facts in front of them. If a talking head on their tv set says it, then they'll believe it.

"The President, Vice President, cabinet members, military Chiefs of Staff, decorated officers of our armed force, elected officials, and thousands of members of various governmental agencies all of whom have sworn to uphold the Constitution"

They play them like a cheap piano. They don't call them stupid goyim for nothing.



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"only they have the power to do this"

Like keeping multi-trillion dollar NORAD completely out of the picture for almost two hours while four hijacked jet liners lazily zig zagged all over the northeast US in the most highly guarded airspace in the world on the highest alert day in US history, while the president chatted about pet goats at a publicly pre-announced photo op, and the vice president in the White House basement barked out orders to DO NOTHING about one plane incoming, even tho any normal passenger plane that loses contact with ATC on any normal day in the most obscure place draws a NORAD reaction in minutes.

It's no use trying to debate with them or reason with them or put facts in front of them. If a talking head on their tv set says it, then they'll believe it.

"The President, Vice President, cabinet members, military Chiefs of Staff, decorated officers of our armed force, elected officials, and thousands of members of various governmental agencies all of whom have sworn to uphold the Constitution"

They play them like a cheap piano. They don't call them stupid goyim for nothing.
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Being a willing party to the burning and death of 5000 citizens you have sworn to protect is not "stupid" it is criminally psychotic. That is not a matter of intelligence but morality. Don't mix the two.

I also don't think Norad tracks the flight of every one of the thousands of airlplanes in the air over the US on a constant basis and then scrambles a squadron of fighters when one blip is not showing on the radar screen. You give the surveillence state too much credit. They lose their own planes in clear skies, I doubt they can reliably trace everyone else's to that degree. And if they can, and did ignore them because they were all in on the plan then you have another layer of low level govt workers, (flight controllers) that are in on the scam. Why haven't one of them talked?
 

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Being a willing party to the burning and death of 5000 citizens you have sworn to protect is not "stupid" it is criminally psychotic. That is not a matter of intelligence but morality. Don't mix the two.

Starting wars with lies to make money for wall street and protect israel and the international narco trade is criminally psychotic, and every single one of their wars have been started like that, most certainly including all the ongoing and endless so called wars on terror.

You think the government is your pal and wouldn't hurt a precious hair on the head of its citizens if it could help it? Ever hear of the aborted Operation Northwoods? No? I didn't think so.

Operation Northwoods

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/northwoods.html


I also don't think Norad tracks the flight of every one of the thousands of airlplanes in the air over the US on a constant basis and then scrambles a squadron of fighters when one blip is not showing on the radar screen.


Of course they track passenger jets, and they track small private planes too. And 911 was hardly "one blip". All four transponders on all four aircraft went out. How could the "Arab hijackers" manage that? Also all contact with all four planes was totally lost. Two had already slammed into the two WTC towers (but not the third that fell down out of sympathy with the first two?). One was shot down in PA (as admitted by Ashcroft), and they invented a "let's roll!" story for it and said heroic passengers, led bya heroic homosexual, overpowered the imaginary Arabs and crashed ina hole, except you can see that hole and there's no wreckage there, none at all, and in fact teh wreckage of that SHOT DOWN plane was strewn over 8 miles of PA landscape. And meanwhile Bush continued to idly chat about pet goats.


You give the surveillence state too much credit. They lose their own planes in clear skies, I doubt they can reliably trace everyone else's to that degree. And if they can, and did ignore them because they were all in on the plan then you have another layer of low level govt workers, (flight controllers) that are in on the scam. Why haven't one of them talked?[/QUOTE


That's actually a good question. Where are the ATC's who were on duty that day? How many of them have met with unfortunate accidents or "committed suicide" been fosterized)? I did read one of them who posted on a 911 truth website and he was talking about how FBI agents had visited their homes and told them in no uncertain terms that they must not speak to even their own families about what happened that day. And it is a matter of record that right after 911 they were debriefed on tape and then a government agent came to the airport and confiscated the tapes and shredded them and dispersed the shreddings to various disposal places.

I also want to know where are all the metal detector checkpoint personnel who were on duty that day and where are their debriefings. They let through all those 19 Arabs with all their sebags full of hijack equipment, box cutters, knives, guns, mace, gas masks, bombs, navigational equipment - all mentioned in various 911 stories - those same guys who used to give me the works pre-911 because I forgot a single coin in my pocket or a rivet on my jeans or shoes set off their metal detectors. Where are they? How come they didn't get interviewed by the phony 911 commission?

Not that there is even the slightest real evidence that one single Arab or Moslem was aborad any of the 911 planes - no boarding passed, surveillance videos, names on passenger manifests, and the FBI even forgot to put any Arab names on their bull**** DNA list that they said they got from the plane they said hit the Pentagon - and then vanished into thin air - except the DNA!




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Nice "Private" message I received from Matt:

"Im sorry to inform your retarded ass but Christopher Lambert, aka the original Highlander is Jewish. I dont mean to be mean but why cant you understsand you are a retard? I dont like many Jewish people but you are just a retard. I would tell you to deal with it but you wont. You actually dont have the ability to see that you are wrong. You are never going to change that whats so sad about you. Just die and do the world a favor but unfortunatley you wont."

What a classy guy.
 

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As I've always been a big fan of various conspiracy theories, this one from my youth has never been solved. And the "official" version has got to be bogus. :wink:

We’ve all heard the “official conspiracy theory” of the Death Star attack. We all know about Luke Skywalker and his ragtag bunch of rebels, how they mounted a foolhardy attack on the most powerful, well-defended battle station ever built. And we’ve all seen the video over, and over, and over, of the one-in-a-million shot that resulted in a massive chain reaction that not just damaged, but completely obliterated that massive technological wonder.

Like many, I was fed this story when I was growing up. But as I watched the video, I began to realize that all was not as it seemed. And the more I questioned the official story, the deeper into the rabbit hole I went.

Presented here are some of the results of my soul-searching regarding this painful event. Like many citizens, I have many questions that I would like answered: was the mighty Imperial government really too incompetent to prevent a handful of untrained nerf-herders from destroying one of their most prized assets? Or are they hiding something from us? Who was really behind the attack? Why did they want the Death Star destroyed? No matter what the answers, we have a problem.

Below is a summary of my book, Uncomfortable Questions: An Analysis of the Death Star Attack, which presents compelling evidence that we all may be the victims of a fraud of immense proportions.

Uncomfortable Questions about the Death Star Attack

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1) Why were a handful of rebel fighters able to penetrate the defenses of a battle station that had the capability of destroying an entire planet and the defenses to ward off several fleets of battle ships?
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The above photos show Death Star defenses. Did they stand down?
2) Why did Grand Moff Tarkin refuse to deploy the station’s large fleet of TIE Fighters until it was too late? Was he acting on orders from somebody to not shoot down the rebel attack force? If so, who, and why?

3) Why was the rebel pilot who supposedly destroyed the Death Star reported to be on the Death Star days, maybe hours, prior to its destruction? Why was he allowed to escape, and why were several individuals dressed in Stormtrooper uniforms seen helping him?

4) Why has there not been an investigation into allegations that Darth Vader, the second-ranking member of the Imperial Government, is in fact the father of the pilot who allegedly destroyed the Death Star?
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Why didn't he arrest this rebel when he had the chance?
5) Why did Lord Vader decide to break all protocols and personally pilot a lightly armored TIE Fighter? Conveniently, this placed Lord Vader outside of the Death Star when it was destroyed, where he was also conveniently able to escape from a large-sized rebel fleet that had just routed the Imperial forces. Why would Lord Vader, one of the highest ranking members of the Imperial Government, suddenly decide to fly away from the Death Star in the middle of a battle? Did he know something that the rest of the Imperial Navy didn’t?
In the video of the Death Star’s destruction, Lord Vader clearly exclaims “I have you now” then fires two shots. Those shots never impact — anywhere. Were they merely “added” to the “official” video after the event to make it appear that Lord Vader had at least attempted to fight off his alleged son?

Onboard Camera shows the lone rebel in Vader's sights but doesn't pull the trigger.

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6) Nerf-Herders defy the laws of physics? How could any pilot shoot a missile into a 2 meter-wide exhaust port, let alone a pilot with no formal training, whose only claim to fame was his ability to “bullseye womprats” on Tatooine? This shot, according to one pilot, would be “impossible, even for a computer.” Yet, according to additional evidence, the pilot who allegedly fired the missile turned off his targeting computer when he was supposedly firing the shot that destroyed the Death Star. How did the missile make a right angle turn after entering the exhaust port? How could a missile shot in the vacuum of space–that would tend to keep going in the same direction as it was released, according to the laws of physics–be *sucked* into an *exhaust* pipe? "Exhaust" means to exhale or blow out... Wouldn’t the missiles have been blown awry of their target rather than sucked in? If it had been an intake pipe, then the “bending” path of the missiles could be plausible. Why have these discrepancies never been investigated, let alone explained?
Actual tactical computer recording.
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The Magic Missile Theory
7) Why has their been no investigation into evidence that the droids who provided the rebels with the Death Star plans were once owned by none other than Lord Vader himself, and were found, conveniently, by the pilot who destroyed the Death Star, and who is also believed to be Lord Vader’s son? Evidence also shows that the droids were brought to one Ben Kenobi, who, records indicate, was Darth Vader’s teacher many years earlier! Are all these personal connections between the conspirators and a key figure in the Imperial government supposed to be coincidences?

8) How could a single missile destroy a battle station the size of a moon? No records, anywhere, show that any battle station or capital ship has ever been destroyed by a single missile. Furthermore, analysis of the tape of the last moments of the Death Star show numerous small explosions along its surface, prior to it exploding completely! Why does all evidence indicate that strategically placed explosives, not a single missile, is what destroyed the Death Star?
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How could this small missile create an explosion this big?
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9) Prior to the destruction of the Death Star a smuggler named Captain Solo was reportedly given a large sum of money. At a crucial point in the battle, Captain Solo had an unobstructed shot on his choice of the fighters pursuing Skywalker, yet Solo did not take advantage of this opportunity to kill Darth Vader. Although Vader was in the process of firing upon Skywalker’s X-wing, Solo attacked the defensive fighter instead. In the aftermath, Vader escaped, while Solo still had crates of money in his cargo hold. Captain Solo eventually made his way to the Bespin system, where he was seen dining with none other than Vader, who was reportedly obsessed with obtaining Captain Solo’s ship (and the money contained therein). Solo’s ship was then seen flying into the super-structure of the second Death Star, destroying it just after Vader was able to get out (he was seen leaving a shuttle piloted by none other than Luke Skywalker). Yet through this whole sequence of events, the money was never seen removed from Solo’s ship. Was it used to bribe Darth Vader, who (allegedly) assassinated Palpatine? Did anyone other than Vader and Skywalker actually see Emperor Palpatine die?
10 ) During pilot debriefing we leaned that Obi Wan was the one who told Luke to turn off his targeting computer. He said he was told by Obi Wan to "Let go" and "Trust me". This is the same Obi Wan who was, according to the official story, killed after sabotaging the Death Star by none other than Darth Vader BEFORE speaking to Luke. His convenient death places him inside the Death Star just before the explosions on the surface occur. By faking his death Vader would have given Obi Wan time to plant explosives. The only evidence of his death is his Jedi robe on surveillance cameras. And even that can't be found because they decided to conveniently let the evidence burn in the planet atmosphere. Also, why are there reports from Endor that Lord Vader, Obi Wan and Yoda were seen together AFTER their deaths? And who other than the Empire has the capacity to fake their deaths?
11) Lord Vader executed an officer for incompetence by allowing the rebels to escape. He then orders another officer to disable the Millennium Falcon's hyper drive. The rebels once again escape using the disabled hyper drive. Why was the officer responsible for caring out Lord Vader's order to disable the hyper drive not executed? Why was he in fact given NO disciplinary action what so ever? Why did Lord Vader only disable the hyper drive? If Lord Vader didn't want the rebels to escape, why didn't he disable the ship entirely?
12) Why did the captain of the Imperial Stardestroyer not fire upon the lifepod with the droids carrying Death Star plans? The "official story" says he didn't find the any signs of life. He said "Hold your fire. There are no life forms. It must have been short-circuited." Why would he be looking for life when it was electronic plans he should have been looking for. Why did he jump to the conclusion it was "short-circuited". Is he a lifepod engineer?
How can all this be just incompetence and coincidence? IMPOSSIBLE!
The most important question of all is why would a shadowy group in the Empire want to destroy such a technological wonder? Is it an excuse to invade Hoth and steal their oil; a planet which didn’t have anything to do with the attacks. Or is it to take away your religious freedoms to practice the dark side of the force? As incredible as this sounds it makes more sense than the official story.
 

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Too funny!

I too have always been skeptical of the "magic missle" theory, for the destruction of the Death Star. That was the "official story" but I never believe the official story!!:biggrin:
 

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Nice "Private" message I received from Matt:

"Im sorry to inform your retarded ass but Christopher Lambert, aka the original Highlander is Jewish. I dont mean to be mean but why cant you understsand you are a retard? I dont like many Jewish people but you are just a retard. I would tell you to deal with it but you wont. You actually dont have the ability to see that you are wrong. You are never going to change that whats so sad about you. Just die and do the world a favor but unfortunatley you wont."

What a classy guy.

So much for the theory of the "Private" message. Not classy I agree, but neither is making public a message marked PRIVATE.
 
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You ever say something to get a reaction out of someone though you dont mean it? Classy no, of course not, but I got the reaction I was looking for. You can learn a lot about someone based on reactions. Christopher Lambert is Jewish though. Still Highlander is a great movie.
 

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You ever say something to get a reaction out of someone though you dont mean it? Classy no, of course not, but I got the reaction I was looking for. You can learn a lot about someone based on reactions. Christopher Lambert is Jewish though. Still Highlander is a great movie.
Yeah, right. Nice try. If you are going to call me out on anything, have the balls do it in public. I didn't solicit your PM and don't appreciate the harassment and amateurish cheap-shots, thus I made it public and will continue to do so if such amateurish cheap-shots continue.

As usual, when one can't logically defend their position, they resort to name-calling instead. So, I agree, yes, you can "learn about someone based on reactions" and yours proved it's weight in gold. Also, my handle is not based upon the character in that movie, but on the elevation in which I reside.
 
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The jews and globalists have done enough well-documented damage to Whites that there's no need to engage in wild flights of fancy and furthermore it makes us look like cranks when we do. Stick to the facts. Federal reserve. Communism. War for Israel. Forced integration. Open borders. Pornography. Attacks on the family. Promotion of homosexuality and miscegenation. That's what we should focus on, not the tinfoil hat brigade.
 

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Mattgianone/MattHarper is so painfully stupid that the mere reading of his posts causes lacerations on my eyeballs. I regretfully read several of his posts in this thread and now I'm crying tears of blood. And the memory of his older posts, my god, surely no migraine headache, indeed no brain aneurysm could be so painful, so nauseating, as the memory of those posts? I want to batter my skull to mush just to get the bad thoughts out. He alone would be enough to make American citizen status an intolerable embarrassment. If only the United States had a policy like the ancient Athenians: ostracism; elected banishment.

"Matt Harper, you are the weakest link, goodbye." Ah, such sweet words, never to be... alas. Alas.
 

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Mattgianone/MattHarper is so painfully stupid that the mere reading of his posts causes lacerations on my eyeballs. I regretfully read several of his posts in this thread and now I'm crying tears of blood. And the memory of his older posts, my god, surely no migraine headache, indeed no brain aneurysm could be so painful, so nauseating, as the memory of those posts? I want to batter my skull to mush just to get the bad thoughts out. He alone would be enough to make American citizen status an intolerable embarrassment. If only the United States had a policy like the ancient Athenians: ostracism; elected banishment.

"Matt Harper, you are the weakest link, goodbye." Ah, such sweet words, never to be... alas. Alas.


I think that's a little much. I guess this thread has run it's course and now we are just sniping at each other. I'll ask Don to lock the thread.
 
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