whiteathlete33
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Another opportunity for one of our guys to pick up a title. I thought this fight wasn't going to happen but apparently I was wrong.
Andreas Kotelnik
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Charles Martel
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Don King signed Andreas Kotelnik to fight Devon Alexander. It won't be easy for him to win.
He can't win on the scorecards in a Don King Promotions card, and unlike Pirog, he doesn't have that one-punch power that would enable him to win on the road.
He can't win on the scorecards in a Don King Promotions card, and unlike Pirog, he doesn't have that one-punch power that would enable him to win on the road.
whiteathlete33
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Kotelnik can win two belts by beating Alexander. It is going to be tough for him since he has only knocked out 37 percent of his opponents. No way he gets a decision in Missouri. Crooked Don King will see to that.
space hillbilly
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I beelieve Kotelnik can win! i like that he saying,
he's not coming to lay down, ........Edited by: lost
he's not coming to lay down, ........Edited by: lost
whiteathlete33
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I don't know about this one Lost. Kotelnik got manhandled by Amir Khan and he's fighting in America of all places. Hopefully he can put this negro on the canvas.
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HMPHH! HUMPH! HYUH! HAH! Tonight in front of his hometown fans Devon Alexander lived up to the hype and issued a prolonged and brutal beating to Andre Kotelnik's boxing gloves. Alexander started things off with a beautiful HUMPH! HUMPH! HOO! HA! combination to Kotelnik's gloves and never gave them a moment's rest the remainder of the fight.
In the fifth Alexander stepped it up with two sizzling HUYAH! HUYAHS! followed by two HEEH! HEEHS! and a HOO! And never looked back except when Kotlenik was regularly snapping Alexander's head around with his own punches, adding to the pounding Kotelniks boxing gloves were taking.
In the end Alexander recieved a well cooked unanimous decision and Kotelniks beaten and battered boxing gloves were taken to the hospital overnight for observation.Edited by: The Hock
In the fifth Alexander stepped it up with two sizzling HUYAH! HUYAHS! followed by two HEEH! HEEHS! and a HOO! And never looked back except when Kotlenik was regularly snapping Alexander's head around with his own punches, adding to the pounding Kotelniks boxing gloves were taking.
In the end Alexander recieved a well cooked unanimous decision and Kotelniks beaten and battered boxing gloves were taken to the hospital overnight for observation.Edited by: The Hock
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I thought Kotelnik clearly won 7 or 8 rounds. Most of Alexander's punches were either missing or landing on Kotelnik's gloves.
I see most people on the boxing websites think Kotelnik deserved to win:
Boxingscene poll result
I see most people on the boxing websites think Kotelnik deserved to win:
Boxingscene poll result
space hillbilly
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This must be wrong! only germany has crooked decisions, didn't everybody know that?
whiteathlete33
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Ahh yes!! Only in Don King's America!! We all know what happens with Don King.
Here is my best example of robbery. I was at the Adamek-Cunningham fight. It was in Newark so the site favored Adamek. Adamek knocks Cunningham down three times and wins at least 8 rounds yet one judge scores it for Cunningham.
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Here is my best example of robbery. I was at the Adamek-Cunningham fight. It was in Newark so the site favored Adamek. Adamek knocks Cunningham down three times and wins at least 8 rounds yet one judge scores it for Cunningham.
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It is typical for most of the American Boxing press and the crew at HBO to get all hyper over Devon Alexander, the next supernot affelet. What has he done? The only guy he beat was Durango a limited brawler. Some in the press and HBO were calling this guy the next Ray Leonard. No way, not now, not ever.
I have not seen this fight, but look forward to this affelet getting schooled and exposed. Kotenlnik had to know that he needed a KO to leave St Louis with the belt. The good thing is that most who saw the fight saw Andreas as the winner. Even some DWFs who were sober at the moment saw the screwing of Andreas and actually have stated it so on the blogs.
I think Devon is a smaller version of Pual Williams, mostly hype, and short on skill and ability. Right now, Williams doesn't believe his own hype, he is trying to drain himself for a 147 lb match against Pacman! Who is really a 140 lbs super fighter. Williams wants no part of Sergio Martinez and will do anything to avoid the Spanish Conquistador.
I have not seen this fight, but look forward to this affelet getting schooled and exposed. Kotenlnik had to know that he needed a KO to leave St Louis with the belt. The good thing is that most who saw the fight saw Andreas as the winner. Even some DWFs who were sober at the moment saw the screwing of Andreas and actually have stated it so on the blogs.
I think Devon is a smaller version of Pual Williams, mostly hype, and short on skill and ability. Right now, Williams doesn't believe his own hype, he is trying to drain himself for a 147 lb match against Pacman! Who is really a 140 lbs super fighter. Williams wants no part of Sergio Martinez and will do anything to avoid the Spanish Conquistador.
whiteathlete33
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I didn't watch this fight as well. Several articles I read this morning state that Alexander had too much speed for Kotelnik. Kotelnik landed more punches according to Compubox though.
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whiteathlete33
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Another white fighter is robbed by the crooked Don King. Eventually this piece of s-it King will be out of boxing. Then maybe boxing judges will be more legit.
space hillbilly
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Kotelink didn't have the power to take Alexander out, that's why the Klitschkos are still champs, if it were not for their power, they would have got robbed long ago.............
whiteathlete33
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lost said:
If the fight was in Europe he probably would have gotten the decision.
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Kotelnik got"robbed" because he wasn't the showcase fighter. I thought the fight was close and could have gone either way. Max"Wigger" Kellerman thought the fight was probably shaded by Kotelnik. So I guess that probably means he should have won a clear unanimous decision....
If Kotelnik had lights out power he would have stopped Alexander late as Alexander was rocked a few times late in the fight. Edited by: white is right
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space hillbilly
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So this is the fights HBO want's to show us! they turned down the Klitschkos, but like showing black vs white fights as long as the white fighter don't have the punchpower to turn a negro end toe's up to the lights.
and as long as it's in the negros hometown and a black racist is the promoter.
so i can see why HBO don't like the Klitschkos!!Edited by: lost
and as long as it's in the negros hometown and a black racist is the promoter.
so i can see why HBO don't like the Klitschkos!!Edited by: lost
whiteathlete33
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I believe we are seeing a sort of caste system in boxing. Black boxers are losing at unprecedented rates these days and judges are doing some home cooking to give them wins.
Why do you think Haye was given his gift decision over Valuev in Germany of all places? The Jews know that Haye had a punchers chance against a Klitschko and were hoping he would fight one of them. It backfired because the coward Haye is hiding.
Why do you think Haye was given his gift decision over Valuev in Germany of all places? The Jews know that Haye had a punchers chance against a Klitschko and were hoping he would fight one of them. It backfired because the coward Haye is hiding.
Just finished watching last Saturday's robbery of the year. A couple of things:
1. I scored the fight 118 to 113 to Kotelnik, and I was being very generous to Devon.
2. Most, about 70% of Devon's punches were being blocked or hitting Kotelnik's forearms.
3. Harold Leadermen is either corrupt, going senile or was drunk on Manichevitz.
4. Too bad Kotelnik doesn't have knock out power, or Devon would have been KO'd in the 11th or 12th.
5. To give you an idea who the best fighters are today, just look at all of the top black trainers and who they are training. White and Hispanic Men. That pretty much sums where boxing is at today. No matter what the usual suspects try to spin.
1. I scored the fight 118 to 113 to Kotelnik, and I was being very generous to Devon.
2. Most, about 70% of Devon's punches were being blocked or hitting Kotelnik's forearms.
3. Harold Leadermen is either corrupt, going senile or was drunk on Manichevitz.
4. Too bad Kotelnik doesn't have knock out power, or Devon would have been KO'd in the 11th or 12th.
5. To give you an idea who the best fighters are today, just look at all of the top black trainers and who they are training. White and Hispanic Men. That pretty much sums where boxing is at today. No matter what the usual suspects try to spin.
whiteathlete33
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This just proves that Alexander isn't the super afflete the media makes him out to be. I'm sure a number of European fighters could beat him. Alexander knows he lost that fight. He will be extremely cautious now and won't take a fight against a dangerous European fighter in Europe. That would certainly spell the end of his "undefeated" record.
I gave Alexander the first two rounds, 3 and 4 were close, and Kotelnik won the rest. Like Westside, I try to be generous to the non-white opponent to compensate for any bias on my part, but I really couldn't find any round after the 4th to give to Alexander. Kotelnik was the clearly superior fighter from the 5th round on.
Lederman was ridiculous, the worst "analysis" that I've ever heard. He wasn't just giving close rounds to Alexander, he was giving clear-cut Kotelnik rounds to Alexander. His argument about Alexander's workrate is only relevant to the first 3-4 rounds, when Kotelnik wasn't throwing much. But after that, Kotelnik did more than enough to win rounds.
At one point, I counted Alexander throwing roughly 47 punches in a row that didn't land!
Lederman was ridiculous, the worst "analysis" that I've ever heard. He wasn't just giving close rounds to Alexander, he was giving clear-cut Kotelnik rounds to Alexander. His argument about Alexander's workrate is only relevant to the first 3-4 rounds, when Kotelnik wasn't throwing much. But after that, Kotelnik did more than enough to win rounds.
At one point, I counted Alexander throwing roughly 47 punches in a row that didn't land!