America: Out of Europe

[Kaptain]

Have you had it with Indian Rights and all the Native Americans and Latinos spouting the "We were here first!" crap? Well wisen up white folks - your ancestors were here first. There has recently been mountains of evidence that prove that Europeans were, in fact, inhabiting America thousands of years before any Asian horde came galloping across the Behring Land Bridge.

This evidence, of course, has been met with virulently angry groups that are suppressing the evidence in cohoots with our Owned Government. Ancient European Skeletons have been found across America pre-dating any mongoloid Indian Skeletons. In 1990, our government in a panic attempt to hide this evidence and under pressure from Indian groups (note: it's not correct to call them Native Americans) passed the NAGPRA act - The Native American Graves Protection and Repatriation Act. This act allows Native Americans to bury the evidence! Mummies that have been in museums for years are being re-buried and lost forever. Some of the most ancient skeletons and artifacts known to America are dissappearing. The lengths the cultural Marxist will go to hide the truth is beyond belief.

Some video links if you haven't seen them:


Ice Age Columbus
The Discovery channel has recently did damage control from Ice age columbus and did a piece by Jew, Olly Steed, that basically called anyone who believed this theory - a Nazi. That crap piece just aired.

Steed's damage control

The first Americans - white

Kennewick man

 

[Mr. Lutefisk]

They are also hiding evidence and stoping research of red, brown and blonde haired mummies found in New Zealand. Once the Indians find out a skull resembles Europeans they use everything in thier power to claim the skeleton so they secretly rebury the evidence. Three 8,000 -10,0000 year old skeletons found in Minnesota called "Pelican Rapids Woman", "Browns Valley Man" and "Sauk Valley Man" which some experts say resemble Europeans, not Indians were given to local tribes and are gone forever secretly reburied.

 

[Kaptain]

Friends of American's past is a good website. It has a map listing many of the caucasoid skeletons that have been reburied or the testing has been completely stopped and in jeopardy of being sent to the Indians for reburial.



Friends of American's Past

 

[ToughJ.Riggins]

Interesting stuff. I do know that the Vikings had supposedly made landing in Newfoundland Canada back around the time of Leif Ericson.

This evil white man stuff is non sense. I think it's very possible that Euros had made landing much earlier. It is also possible that a migration of Caucasians had traveled through Asia around 30,000 years ago- leaving Eastern Europe maybe 10,000 years or so after entering it and had gone through Siberia and then came across the Behring Strait to America. There were supposedly more Caucasoid looking versions of Native Americans from B.C Times when Anthropologists and Biologists have done skull research.

My wife is part Amero-Indian though and I happen to be proud of Native American culture almost as much as European culture.

I think this suppression of earlier Euro settlement in the U.S is the result of the U.S government trying to make up for Andrew Jackson and the Trail of Tears and other horrible events that took place in the feuds between whites and Native Americans. The stuff that went on was unfortunate for both sides, but it was particularly harsh for the Native Americans during the 1800s. Unfortunately the tide has turned against whites and Christians since the 1960s in the form of white guilt and cultural Marxism.

 

[ToughJ.Riggins]

We should also note that the Arabs owned blacks as slaves before Europeans did, so this "evil" European cultural Marxism is non sense. After the division of the Roman Empire then onto the Middle Ages- wealthy Europeans owned Europeans as slaves- later called indentured servants if the person owed a debt to them. In many cases the slaves were former prisoners of war. In rare cases it could have been for reprice for committing a crime as well.

I thought I'd comment on the three genealogies of Europe. The term "Slav" comes from slave because eastern Europeans were used as slaves by central Europeans during this time as well (I don't know a lot about Dark Ages history- although I've learned some about Gothic architecture on this site.). Slavs may have been used as slaves when the wealthy leaders/ Emperors of the Byzantine Empire had conquered them. I'd have to be enlightened on this issue.

Speaking of Germanic tribes, they were basically Celtic when traced by Mitochondrial DNA. Celts were pushed to the brink of mainland Europe near Denmark, Netherlands, Belgium and Northern France sometime after the collapse of the western Roman Empire. The last remaining places where Gaelic was spoken was on the British Isles and in the aforementioned area.

Yet through all of this- they have proven that Anglo Saxons, Huns, Central- and Western Europeans (all the way down to Spain) actually have many genetic similarities to Celts. In a sense they are all a Celtic group with a different language than the original Irish and Scots. There is a book "Blood of the Isles" about this.

I think I read that Scandinavians are more closely related to eastern Euros and Slavs. But the Scottish are known to have quite a bit of Norwegian ancestry dating back to the Viking attacks/ conquerings on the Isles. Latin Euros were the Greeks, Romanians, Italians and I think the Portuguese. The Spaniards are a mix of Celtic and Latin ancestry and I think the French are surprisingly mostly Celtic ethnically/genealogy wise. Sorry to digress here.

All languages of traditional Europe can be traced back to Slavic, Latin and Celtic. There is a theory that Europe was divided by ice shelves during the ice age during early migration into the continent and that these three groups were separated from each other about 30,000 years ago.

Feel free to spot check me on anything in this post, b/c it's been a while since I read about this and I'm going by memory.

 

[whiteathlete33]

Some good points ToughJ. I think it's safe to say that every race has been a slave at some point in history. People have lived through things I don't even want to imagine. Only one race likes to constantly whine and feel they deserve everything for nothing. We all know who they are.

 

[Charlie]

'Scientific American Frontiers' with host Alan Alda (Italian-American) is interesting. The episode 'Coming Into America' covered the 'first into the Americas' question and focused on archaeological evidence rather than DNA and skeletal remains. The key seemed to be the similarity between Clovis spearheads and Solutrean spearheads. Why are they virtually identical?

One scientist had trained himself to be an expert spearhead maker to better understand the process.

Also the focus was more on Eastern seaboard sites rather than on the Western U.S.

http://www.shoppbs.org/product/index.jsp?productId=1831296

The 'Time Travelers' episode of Scientific American Frontiers covers a similar story, this time of Caucasians in China.

"...Their prominent noses are clearly Caucasian features, suggesting these people came from the west. Their fine wool wraps, braided cord, felt bedding, along with items like a leather saddle and a cow horn drinking cup all closely resemble the culture of the modern day Kazaks, to the west of China..."

And as in the U.S. these inconvenient ancient whites are potentially a political problem.

http://www.pbs.org/saf/1203/segments/1203-2.htm

A leading anti-out of Europe academic is one David J. Meltzer.

"...My voice has also been part of the din over the origins and antiquity of the first Americans, which has involved visits to a number of the localities thought to be among the oldest in the hemisphere, such as Monte Verde (Chile) and Pedra Furada (Brazil), and joining - with colleagues Lawrence Strauss and Ted Goebel - in evaluating the fantastic claim that the Americas was colonized from Europe across the North Atlantic in Ice Age times by Solutrean boat people. Color us extremely skeptical, as attested in our paper, Ice Age Atlantis?..."

(Note how Meltzer, Goebel and Strauss use the non-academic and loaded word 'Atlantis'. You know, as in the same sort of people who give credence to a silly lost continent myth are the same sort of people who talk about Europeans reaching America in ancient times. Crazy talk!)

http://smu.edu/anthro/faculty/dMeltzer/dmeltzer.htm

I'm surprised PBS would produce and broadcast these shows. Kind of makes up for Bill Moyers.

 

[Kaptain]

Just looking at America, the oldest skeletons (7,000 years plus) have been found to be caucasoid both in size (tall), skull shape, and DNA testing. The tools found by some of these skeletons have been linked only to the Solutrians - ancient Caucasions from France. The Clovis spear point is almost an exact match to the Solutrians. The tools used by Siberian Mongoloids have never been matched to tools found in America. Finally, the oldest remains that have been found in America have been found on the East Coast.


Now knowing this, what is more possible of the two scenarios:

1) Mongoloids traveled to the Alaskan area from the Bering Land Bridge during the Ice Age. Ice covering all of Canada a part of Northern America developed a small crack where the Asians traveled down to American mainland. They traveled in this "crack" thousands of miles surrounded by ice sheets over a mile high and finally made it to America. During the trip, the Mongoloids completely alter their tools which happen to match European tools and clothing.

or,

2) Europeans traveled by boat along Southern edge of the Atlantic glacier sheet fishing and hunting seal. They bring the same tools and clothing threads that they had in Europe and found a new land.

Case closed. Europeans were here before Indians. What's more, the Mongoloid horde that came rushing down in later years completely genocided the white race in America through race war, disease, and massive immigration/miscegation.

 

[Kaptain]

"March of the Titans" is another great source for white history.

March of the titans

 

[ToughJ.Riggins]

It is certainly possible that Euros from France came by boat much earlier- even 8 thousand years ago (these attempts to cross the ocean would have been very dangerous with only sails and other pre-industrial technology). I guess we don't really know what happened to the white indigenous that were here, or how many were here.

If Euros had traveled out of Europe, through Asia and then across the Behring Strait as far back as 30,000 years ago or so, their facial features can change through sexual selection, natural selection and skin color can change from adaptation from less or more exposure to vitamin D from the sun. In EXTREMELY rare cases- mutations of different sorts get passed on through mating to an entire tribe. There may have been both Mongoloid and Caucasoid type Aboriginals here at one point.

The Caucasoid Indians could have intermarried with the Mongoloid tribes at some point. Maybe they had a trading market set up with the Mongoloid Indians or maybe there was intermarrying as part of a peace agreement. Some Native American tribes do indeed have more Euro features than others. The Caucasoid indigenous American tribes could have also been wiped out by either war or disease from the Mongoloid Indians.

It's tough to know- because we still have a lot to learn about Pre- Columbus history on this continent.

 

[Thrashen]

KP with yet another correct assessment of accepted "history."Â￾

I could see white Americans laughing uncontrollably after reading your post. Like with the caste system, facts, logic, and common sense never seem to matter. They are mere parrot-people, squawking on the shoulders of the NWO, awaiting the proverbial cracker as compensation for reiterating the bureaucratic "We Love Featherheads"Â￾ hymn. There has never (and will never be again), a conquered group of people venerated by their conquerors so comprehensively. As I type this, I'm sure millions of white elementary schoolers are in the process of constructing papermache tomahawks, dawning feather-clad headbands, and watching footage of pow-wow zulu-like dance rituals. North American Indians were barely resourceful or intelligent enough to simply stay alive on a year-to-year basis.

Mommy and Daddy can't tell junior the pitiful truth of their Featherhead "heroes,"Â￾ because they themselves are too apathetic and self-centered and racially numb to understand. The exact same can be said for black American slaves, who, at this point, have ascended to God-King "martyr"Â￾ status. It doesn't much matter who was "here first,"Â￾ as there is no amount of evidence that could possibly convince the globalist "historians"Â￾ to change their everlasting, all-encompassing cultural Marxist fantasies.Edited by: Thrashen

 

[Kaptain]

What you must know is that this is the ultimate in Orwellian "memory holes." Our race along with its great accomplishments are literally being buried - lost forever. This action is a widely known scandal in the archealogy community, but misses the media's attention and the masses.

It was not until DNA testing that the Indian tribes even cared about these ancient skeletons and artifacts. DNA testing could and was well on its way to concluding for fact that these mummies and newly found ancient skeletons all were of European genetic origin. Many, in fact, most of the skeletons that are suddenly under attack have been on display or in storage for the best part of a century (found long ago)- the Indians didn't care. Now that these mummies have been found to be European, the cover-up is on a full court press.

You can even look at how the media and occupied government are now engaged fully in the cover-up. On Wikipedia's entry on Kennewick Man(the most famous skeleton), they only mention the word "European" once and that was to state falsely that the skeleton was found to be NOT European. It's as if these Discovery channel programs and all the testimony from scientist and institutes like the Smithsonian didn't ever exist.

You'll never see another show on Discovery or the History channel on Europeans being the first Americans - it won't happen and the old episodes won't ever be rerun. A couple of years later the Discovery channel now calls anyone believing in the Europeans first theory - "Nazis." Sound familar?

 

[ToughJ.Riggins]

Come to think of it, it is unlikely that the Caucasoid American continent aboriginals died of disease. New diseases that wipe out a culture- came mostly from domesticating animals and bringing those diseases to new human hosts.

The entire world lived as hunters and gatherers until about 10,000 B.C when the middle east shifted into the neolithic age- with China not far behind. There were also pastoralist cultures in the middle east during the neolithic age. The Americas had no animals to domesticate except the llama- which made farming more difficult. The cultural geography on this continent is also arranged on a mostly north-south basis (slowing cultural diffusion).

If the Caucasoid "Indians" were wiped out, it was probably due to famine/ extinction, war with the Mongoloid Indians or less likely their DNA being diluted into the Mongoloid Indian gene pool.

As far as Indian technology, they had advanced knowledge of natural medicine and some (particularly the Aztecs and Mayans) had advanced knowledge of astronomy for the pre-industrial era and built large stone structures/pyramids.

In the U.S the Pueblo Indians learned to irrigate in the desert. And the north west fisherman Indians learned fishing techniques to have long lives in a peaceful region that had very little food shortages. In south America supposedly there was some groups of Indians that farmed as far back as 7000 B.C.

It's actually untrue that all hunters and gatherers didn't live long. It was a more dangerous lifestyle for sure, but they devoted less time then people today to "making a living". Some medicine men in peaceful regions in tribes from areas that had plentiful food supplies- lived into their 70s. It was only in areas with food shortages and with tribes that had to be on the move due to that- or war- that the old would commit suicide or simply not make it long in those years.

KP, it's nuts that some of these extremists are so bent on covering up DNA tests that show there were Euro Indians. Even more disgusting is calling someone a "Nazi" for using empirical evidence to suggest Euros were here long ago or first. I guess it doesn't fit the agenda of the evil white man stomping and destroying the Native Americans.

My wife (and me) are grateful for the fact that Europeans brought the gospel to the Americas, although we wish the trail of tears and some other horrible things that happened in the 1800s didn't happen.

 

[Kaptain]

Some Native American tribes do indeed have more Euro features than others. The Caucasoid indigenous American tribes could have also been wiped out by either war or disease from the Mongoloid Indians.

It's tough to know- because we still have a lot to learn about Pre- Columbus history on this continent.

True, that Indian tribes differ greatly in appearance - some appearing to have more white traits than others. The Mandan Tribe is an example. The first explorers in contact with the Mandan thought they were Welsh because of their white features (fair skin, blonde hair, tallness, and blue-eyes) and because of the stories of a Welsh Prince that started a colony in the the Americas in the 12th Century. There are some paintings of Mandan Indians by George Catlin (Lewis and Clark expedition) and some photographs. Unfortunetly, most of the Mandan were wiped out from small pox before photography. No pure bloods exist today. The Mandan were known as the most civilized and highly cultured tribe by L&C and other explorers. They were an agricultural tribe that lived in villages built of huts. They were also known as the friendliest Indians. One of their last Chiefs was sent for three years back East to learn about Europeans. When he returned he implored others to live among the white people as he desired to do. Edited by: Kaptain Poop

 

[Kaptain]

Interesting to note that the famous race-traitor, John McCain, tried to write an amendment into NAGPRA that would make any archeological remains older than 500 years found in America the property of Indian tribes REGARDLESS of ancestory. In other words, a clearly white skeleton with proven white ancestory would be the property of Indians to do what they want. Still want to vote for the "lesser" of two evils?

 

[Kaptain]

This is a little off-topic, but a good documentary on white civilization in China. They brought the wheel to China among other things.



tocharians in china

 

[C Darwin]

white history month!!!

 

[Jimmy Chitwood]

white history month!!!

feel free to borrow my t-shirt idea, gentlemen ...

White History Month

Celebrated 12 times a year since at least 3150 B.C.

 

[Kaptain]

The Tarim Mummies is actually a little better video on the European mummies found in China.


Tarim mummies - Indo-European

 

[Bear Backer]

History is such a fascinating topic interwoven in all of our past's leading to who we are today. I have always been interested in history, and it is one of the reason why I thoroughly despise the Marxist tyrants who want to scrub the world clean and refashion reality into their visions of the new "Soviet" man. We all have our own unique and valuable histories, identities and rights to exist as people that should be preserved. That is the true diversity of humanity, not this mindless, muddy amalgamation of unthinking, identity-less, family-less mass men they are trying to create. That is anything but diversity, it is bastardization.

 

[jcolec02]

History is such a fascinating topic interwoven in all of our past's leading to who we are today. I have always been interested in history, and it is one of the reason why I thoroughly despise the Marxist tyrants who want to scrub the world clean and refashion reality into their visions of the new "Soviet" man. We all have our own unique and valuable histories, identities and rights to exist as people that should be preserved. That is the true diversity of humanity, not this mindless, muddy amalgamation of unthinking, identity-less, family-less mass men they are trying to create. That is anything but diversity, it is bastardization.

EXACTLY!!! how is making us all the same race considered "diversity"? If we don't stay within our own race and culture, and we all just "melt" together, then in a couple hundred years we will all be the same and there wont be anything diverse about our population.

 

[ToughJ.Riggins]

I completely agree with the above two posts! Traveling the world and experiencing diverse cultures is what makes history, culture and travel interesting. I'm an adventurous type and love trying new foods, seeing different countries art and historical structures and hearing different kinds of music and dance.

All people should be proud of their heritage, it's what makes them who they are. I identify strongly with Celtic culture because I'm half Irish and 1/8 Scottish (my other part is 1/4 English and 1/8 Italian) I will root for Irish athletes first, followed by unfairly stereotyped other Euro athletes next in line. Your race, culture and shared history is your Nation! Cheers guys!

 

[Michael]

An article entitled "Do tools belonging to Stone Age hunters found on U.S. east coast prove the first Americans came from Europe NOT Asia?"

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...finally-answer-really-discovered-America.html

 

[Quiet Speed]

Very interesting topic. A few years ago Discovery Channel aired a program exploring the question of the “first Americansâ€￾. How such a program slipped by command central is puzzling.

[video=youtube;zQbtpOE7gvs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQbtpOE7gvs&feature=related[/video]

 

[Michael]

An article entitled " Who Were the First Humans in the Americas?"

Who Were the First Humans in the Americas? Anthropology, Archaeology, DNA and Biology Gives an Answer!

Two recent articles in major newspapers show the groundbreaking anthropology, archeology, DNA Biology that definitively proves that Europeans, not Asian “Native Americansâ€￾ were the first human inhabitants of the Americas. The latest and copious scientific and historical evidence is that Europeans arrived in North America about 10,000 years before Asian “Indiansâ€￾ came.

The logical assumption is that the Indian arrivals ethnically cleansed the European population and completely subsumed it, with only traces left, but there is clear, ages-old DNA evidence of European genes in the genome of some Indian tribes. Because the presence of certain genes can be dated, the European genes are found to be much older than the Asian genes in the specimens found.

http://www.davidduke.com/?p=27216

The assumption is that the Whites lost to the Asian invaders but what would have happened if the Whites won, they could have taken the Asian women as slaves and breed with them, and before long the tribe would no longer be White!

This means that Y-chromosome DNA needs to be exam but when done with living Indians too much European DNA tossed out as contamination since 1492, so old bones need to be studied but Indians don't want that. Even with old bones being studied must be taken into account that Whites in Asian like the White mummies may have contaminated the Asian gene pool, and what happen with mutated genes where if one set of mutations is assumed it started as European but if it is assumed a different set of mutations it could have started out as Asian.

This will take a lot of new finds and study and don't forget that their were reports of White Indians in the early days of European colonization, and it is also possible that the Whites who first arrived in American were Mediterranean Whites who being in the sun would tan much darker than most British, could have many dismissed as nonwhites by the common explorers.