2023 World Outdoor Season

[white lightning]

many of the finals times were slower than 5 hours earlier - it may well be colder there as it gets towards late afternoon, denser air etc. It has views of Mont Blanc and the Alps etc.
Zoe Hobbs ran her great 10.96 time in the heats - not to worry, it still counts. Then she beat them all again later, regardless of times.

All Browning had to do to duck under 10 was hang on to the coat sleeves of the man from Cameroon who PB'ed in the final. He ran well enough a windless 10.10 - at this stage he just isn't a sub10 man unless he has some wind at his back.
I was pleased to see in his IAAF profile all his best 10 times are now 10.10 or better for a 10.07 average. Most had little to no wind.
He still needs to find that last metre of speed, that's a 1% improvement... but can they find it in him somehow?

These times aren't considered "at altitude" as the track is officially at 992m. Altitude is deemed 1000m and above. Ahaa! That answered our questions over the years about fast times there> EG Richard Kilty ran his 10.01 PB there

Great Update. I have hopes the Zoe Hobbs can shock alot of people and make the semi finals at the World Champs. Maybe beyond
if she has several almost perfect reaces. Not since 2004 has a non american or jamaican won an olympic or world champs gold in the
woments 100 meters. If fact, 16 of the 20 fastest times ever run in the & 200 meters by a women are 2 sprinters from Jamaica. Just
thought I would point that out. Maybe it's those magical Yams!

 

[jacknyc]

These times aren't considered "at altitude" as the track is officially at 992m. Altitude is deemed 1000m and above. Ahaa! That answered our questions over the years about fast times there> EG Richard Kilty ran his 10.01 PB there

No wonder so many sprinters showed up for this meet.

 

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No wonder so many sprinters showed up for this meet.

Yeah but if you look at what Kopec did in Germany it's still alot more impreessive. To run a 10.05 and 10.06 wind legal in the same
day and all within a 2 hour period. Let's hope to see that form again for the Polish National Championships. It would be very fitting
if he broke the All Time Polish 100 Meters Record in front of the home crowd with friends & family there!

 

[jacknyc]

I wish Christophe Lemaitre would retire.
He came in last in his heat at a meet in France, running 10.71 with 1.9w.
He is kind of embarrassing himself at this point.

Meanwhile, Hassan Taftian ran 10.21 in the finals.

 

[white is right]

I wish Christophe Lemaitre would retire.
He came in last in his heat at a meet in France, running 10.71 with 1.9w.
He is kind of embarrassing himself at this point.

Meanwhile, Hassan Taftian ran 10.21 in the finals.

At least he's not receiving punches to the head or blows to his body but this has to be close to an all comers meet athlete as a 10.7 runner isn't anything close to world class and is only domestic level for poor sprinting countries like France.

He's similar to a former NFL star playing in beer league games for a 200 a game and not impressing at that..

 

[jacknyc]

For me, the short sprinters that I am most curious about this season are Boling, Steiner, Coby Hilton, Samuele Ceccarelli, Rohan Browning, Charles Dobson, and Amy Hunt. These are the sprinters that I think are most capable of achieving big results.

And on the high school level, Mia Brahe-Pedersen, Gaitlin Bair, and Brody Buffington.

Okay, I wrote this in April.
All the high school sprinters impressed this season. In fact, I would say that they all exceeded expectations.

On the other hand, Boling, Hilton, and Hunt have disappointed. Dobson had one good race and then got injured. Browning has been a little bit below expectations, and Steiner and Ceccarelli are about where I expected them to be.

 

[white lightning]

I posted in the high school thread with a short video. Nice job jacknyc. Let's see how the final 2 months of the season play out.

 

[mastermulti]

I wish Christophe Lemaitre would retire.
He came in last in his heat at a meet in France, running 10.71 with 1.9w.
He is kind of embarrassing himself at this point.

Meanwhile, Hassan Taftian ran 10.21 in the finals.

but what if he just really enjoys running without pressure to be selected and perform well internationally. Imagine the young kids who idolise him running next to him and eventually surpassing him on the track. It could well be a great incentive for them to run with their hero

 

[mastermulti]

Great Update. I have hopes the Zoe Hobbs can shock alot of people and make the semi finals at the World Champs. Maybe beyond
if she has several almost perfect reaces. Not since 2004 has a non american or jamaican won an olympic or world champs gold in the
woments 100 meters. If fact, 16 of the 20 fastest times ever run in the & 200 meters by a women are 2 sprinters from Jamaica. Just
thought I would point that out. Maybe it's those magical Yams!

here's part of her report to NZ that tells us the conditions at the time - it means 10.10 for Browning and 10.14 for Whelpton 5 hours later and probably colder still was not bad at all). I think Whelpton has a great deal of upside at 23

"When I saw the time come up I couldn't believe it,” Hobbs said. “I didn't think I would run that time, especially given the conditions. It was 15 degrees at the time of that race with a 20-minute delay leading into the start. The wind was all over the shop with head and tailwinds.

 

[white lightning]

but what if he just really enjoys running without pressure to be selected and perform well internationally. Imagine the young kids who idolise him running next to him and eventually surpassing him on the track. It could well be a great incentive for them to run with their hero

I agree as it's his passion just not to the level it used to be. No one can ever take away the History he made. The first white man to go sub 10
and sub 20. Despite his short career he did so much to give hope to white sprinters worldwide to keep chasing their goals. Just ask guys like
Matt Shirvington, John Teeters, Richard Kilty, Julian Reus and too many others. He was and still is an inspiration.

 

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Mondo Duplantis is a machine operating at the highest level of any Pole Vaulter I have ever seen. Incredible athlete!

Duplantis, Ceh and El Bakkali stand out in cold and rainy Stockholm | Watch Athletics

Duplantis, Ceh and El Bakkali impressed at cold and rainy Stockholm Diamond League meet, Bauhaus Galan, on Sunday (2).

www.watchathletics.com

 

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Some quick news. Henrik Larsson will be running his 3rd 200 meters of the year on July 5th. One last tuneup before the champs.

On a positive note I was checking the European Under 20 Mens List for the 100 Meters.

6 of the top 8 guys are white guys in all of Europe so far! Pretty darn good considering the mass invasions of the people coming there
from all over the world. It's been going on for a few decades by now is at an all time high. Every european nation will fall like France
if they don't stop this madness. Back to track for now. Our young guys are really running well and I see some of these guys going
in the mid to high 10.20's before the summer ends!

World Athletics | 100 Metres - men - u20 - all - 2023

worldathletics.org

 

[jacknyc]

but what if he just really enjoys running without pressure to be selected and perform well internationally. Imagine the young kids who idolise him running next to him and eventually surpassing him on the track. It could well be a great incentive for them to run with their hero

Well I disagree.
First off, Lemaitre has never enjoyed running. It's always been obvious that he had no passion for the sport.
Second, he just turned 33 years old. Perhaps if he were in his 40s, and showing up at meets, it might be exciting for younger runners to be competing against him. But to be only 33 yrs old, and running this slowly ... there are men and women who are still very competitive at this age. Taftian, who doesn't have half his talent, is 30 yrs old and ran 10.21 at that meet.
Frankly, I think Lemaitre is just collecting appearance fees, and is not inspiring anyone by showing up and running so poorly at this age.
and p.s. I don't think he's helping his legacy with these sad performances.

 

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Dos Santos to take on Warholm in Monaco | NEWS | World Athletics

Brazilian 400m hurdler is one of six world champions added to the line-up for the EBS Herculis meeting on 21 July

worldathletics.org

 

[jacknyc]

Dos Santos to take on Warholm in Monaco | NEWS | World Athletics

Brazilian 400m hurdler is one of six world champions added to the line-up for the EBS Herculis meeting on 21 July

worldathletics.org

Should be a good challenge for Warholm.

 

[white lightning]

Should be a good challenge for Warholm.

Yes although I think the challenge will be more for Dos Santos due to his lack of races coming off the injury. Dos Santos is amazing
talent for sure but when Warholm is in shape I just can't see anyone in the world beating him. Karstan Warholm is the World Record
Holder for a reason and I predict he breaks his own world record either at the World Champs of at next years Olympics!

 

[mastermulti]

Well I disagree.
First off, Lemaitre has never enjoyed running. It's always been obvious that he had no passion for the sport.
Second, he just turned 33 years old. Perhaps if he were in his 40s, and showing up at meets, it might be exciting for younger runners to be competing against him. But to be only 33 yrs old, and running this slowly ... there are men and women who are still very competitive at this age. Taftian, who doesn't have half his talent, is 30 yrs old and ran 10.21 at that meet.
Frankly, I think Lemaitre is just collecting appearance fees, and is not inspiring anyone by showing up and running so poorly at this age.
and p.s. I don't think he's helping his legacy with these sad performances.

well we'll just have to disagree then -
I reckon Lemaitre loved to compete AT FIRST ... till the weight of expectation got him down. You only need look at YouTubes of those first 2 years to see him relishing the 100m wins. And he probably loves running club as his hobby and release.
Appearance fees. Sure, a beer afterwards perhaps?
A major problem is people who expect him to be their white knight, live vicariously through him, who get disappointed when he doesn't deliver to their satisfaction.
Let him run for as long as he enjoys it. Our chapter on him is closed and he's getting on with his career and his life's hobby.
Viva The Master!

 

[mastermulti]

Should be a good challenge for Warholm.

yes, he's a worthy challenger and good competition. The American must be getting sick of the sight of both of them

 

[white is right]

well we'll just have to disagree then -
I reckon Lemaitre loved to compete AT FIRST ... till the weight of expectation got him down. You only need look at YouTubes of those first 2 years to see him relishing the 100m wins. And he probably loves running club as his hobby and release.
Appearance fees. Sure, a beer afterwards perhaps?
A major problem is people who expect him to be their white knight, live vicariously through him, who get disappointed when he doesn't deliver to their satisfaction.
Let him run for as long as he enjoys it. Our chapter on him is closed and he's getting on with his career and his life's hobby.
Viva The Master!

His racing in the twilight of his career mirrors that of former world record holder Zola Budd. She was making appearances in semi pro races and winning them in her 40's after she disappeared from the scene due to a similar glass house public spot light.

Still France has never produced any sprinter who has done anything like Lemaitre in the modern age less Drut. Even he was 45+years ago, I don't know how he could be viewed as a failure when Vicaut has literally never won a European level individual gold and has choked in numerous world level finals and now is perpetually injured.

Just one man's opinion but I think his career could have been more but historically for French sprinting he only has Drut who has had an obviously better career.

PS I forgot about Doucoure and Diagana who both won sprint golds in the hurdles at the world level and have relay gold medals at the world level too.

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[mastermulti]

Mondo Duplantis is a machine operating at the highest level of any Pole Vaulter I have ever seen. Incredible athlete!

Duplantis, Ceh and El Bakkali stand out in cold and rainy Stockholm | Watch Athletics

Duplantis, Ceh and El Bakkali impressed at cold and rainy Stockholm Diamond League meet, Bauhaus Galan, on Sunday (2).

www.watchathletics.com

he's certainly all-time cream of the crop. He's taken the event to another level .... the way Bubka did 30 years ago.
Athletics is a fascinating sport - you get a Bubka, a Duplantis, a Bolt, a Beamon, a Moses, a Warholm ... people who kick the ball right out of the park for their event and then it takes the next few decades to drag up a bunch of people to that level.
Then wham, someone new comes in and does it again and it all repeats.
It's never boring

 

[mastermulti]

a video of Zoe Hobbs from last year when her PB was 11.08. Surely NZ athletics will select her for Budapest.
But she was right at 5.30 in - until they get medals they'll be no support for T&F.
But how to get medals without support unless family and friends pick up the tab? Great mature head on her shoulders

 

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[sprintstar]

Shes pretty, has a great body and can run some but what a camera hound lol.....

 

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European Athletics

European Athletics

www.european-athletics.com

 

[white lightning]

Was looking at the lineups for the mens 100 meters at the USATF Champs starting tommorow and going for the next 4 days.
Bad news for our guys in the 100 meters. As if it's not tough enough to try and qualify in each heat they all have crappy lanes.

Sam Blaskowski has lane 1 in heat number one while Austin Kressley is in 3 which is better in the same heat. The inside lane sucks!

Then Coby Hilton is in lane 1 in heat number three. Even with their best races of the year it will be tough just to get out of the opening rounds.
Being on the extreme inside or outside lanes on the track is very, very hard to react to the gun and the others guys to win the vast
majority of the time. The winners usually come in lanes 3, 4, 5 or 6. Again not always but the majority of the time. The guys that run the faster
times get those desired lanes which is fair.