2023 NFL Draft

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Richardson should not even be an nfl backup. He is a terrible quarterback
Richardson should be a developmental qb who back in the day would have been a mid to late round pick and would be a 3rd string qb or practice squad guy. "Oafdale" Jones would be a similar type guy but Richardson isn't an oaf body type wise as he is put together and could be used in Newton goal line work packages but I wouldn't trust him much more than that.
 

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Richardson should be a developmental qb who back in the day would have been a mid to late round pick and would be a 3rd string qb or practice squad guy. "Oafdale" Jones would be a similar type guy but Richardson isn't an oaf body type wise as he is put together and could be used in Newton goal line work packages but I wouldn't trust him much more than that.
It defies logic. Remember last year when Malik Willis was a sure fire high 1st round pick? Richardson might have the same fate and drafted lower than all the draft cucks want him to be drafted On the other hand the 49ers made one of the worst trades in history for Trey Lance who played one year at the fcs level a few years ago. The black qb hype is very real and everyone is onboard except us. It’s pathetic.
 

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I don’t watch it or follow it except through here out of principle, but y’all have amassed and incredible amount of evidence showing the biases the league has


If all 22 players on every nfl team were black there would be something else to complain about. There always is
 

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Hey look another White DL being projected as an NFL interior OL. Where have we seen this story before?

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/...maalik-hall-headline-defensive-names-to-know/

Jacob Slade entered the season largely ignored by scouts who did not feel he was a Sunday prospect. His play over eight games last year changed that opinion, and Slade’s pro-day workout squarely cemented him as a late-round pick/PFA type.


Slade and his 285-pound frame timed 4.94 seconds in the 40 with a super quick 10-yard split of 1.70 seconds. His three-cone time was impressive at 7.63 seconds, and Slade touched 31″ in the vertical jump.

Teams like his athleticism and mobility, and Slade is also getting looks as a potential developmental offensive guard. The Buffalo Bills are showing interest in the Spartan, and he’s had a lot of talks with the Lions.
 

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Here is my final attempt at the most comprehensive list of White athletes for this year's NFL draft. I have reviewed this thread and added players I originally missed based on pro day results reported in.

Quarterback
QB Will Levis Kentucky
QB Tanner McKee Stanford
QB Stetson Bennett Georgia
QB Max Duggan TCU
QB Tyson Bagent Shepherd
QB Clayton Tune Houston
QB Jake Haener Fresno St
QB Aidan O'Connell Purdue
QB Sean Clifford PSU
QB Tommy Devito Illinois
QB Tanner Morgan Minnesota
QB Tim Demorat Fordham
QB Holton Ahlers ECU

Runningback/Fullback
FB Hunter Luepke
RB Brad Roberts Air Force
FB Jack Colletto Oregon St

Wide Receiver
WR Charlie Jones Purdue
WR Jake Bobo UCLA
WR Chase Cota Oregon
WR David Duren West Florida
WR Taylor Grimes Incarnate Word
WR Ryan Miller Furman
WR Kade Warner Kansas St
WR Danny Kittner University of Mary
WR Garett Maag North Dakota
WR Thayer Thomas NC State
WR Cody Chrest Sam Houston State
WR Oliver Martin Nebraska

Tight End
TE Michael Mayer Notre Dame
TE Dalton Kincaid Utah
TE Sam LaPorta Iowa
TE Payne Durham Purdue
TE Tucker Craft SDSU
TE Will Mallory Miami
TE Zack Kuntz Old Dominion
TE Davis Allen Clemson
TE Luke Musgrave Oregon St
TE Josh Whyle Cincinatti
TE Luke Schoonmaker Michigan
TE Griffin Herbert La Tech
TE Luke Ford Illinois
TE Joel Wilson C. Michigan
TE Thomas Greaney Albany
TE Brady Russell Colorado
TE Ben Sims Baylor

Offensive Tackle
OT Peter Skoronski Northwestern
OT Cody Mauch NDSU
OT Ryan Hayes Michigan
OT Blake Freeland BYU
OT Alex Forsyth Oregon
OT Harris LaChance BYU
OT Alex Palczewski Illinois
OT Luke Haggard Indiana
OT Dalton Wagner Arkansas
OT Mason Brooks Ole Miss
OT Kilian Zierer Auburn
OT Connor Galvin Baylor
OT Jaxon Kirkland Washington
OT Joey Fisher Shepherd
OT Jake Witt Northern Michigan
OT Henry Byrd Princeton

Center
OC John Michael Schmitz Minnesota
OC Jarrett Patterson Notre Dame
OC Joe Tippman Wisconsin
OC Luke Wypler Ohio St
OC Ricky Stromberg Arkansas
OC Alex Forsyth Oregon
OC Alan Ali TCU

Guard
OG Andrew Vorhees USC
OG Nick Broeker Ole Miss
OG Jake Andrews Troy
OG Nick Saldiveri Old Dominion
OG Cooper Hodges App St
OG Trevor Downing Iowa St
OG Nash Jensen NDSU
OG Dylan Deatherage Western Michigan
OG Vincent Picozzi Northwestern
OG TJ Bass Oregon

Defensive Tackle
DT Bryan Bresee Clemson
DT Eli Huggins Kansas St
DT Scott Matlock Boise State
DT Jacob Slade Michigan St
DT Levi Bell Texas St

Defensive End/Edge
DE Lukas Van Ness Iowa
DE Derek Parish Houston
DE Spencer Waege NDSU
DE Brock Martin Oklahoma St
DE George Tarlas Boise St
DE John Waggoner Iowa
DE Zeke Vandenburgh Illinois State

Linebacker
LB Drew Sanders Arkansas
LB Jack Campbell Iowa
LB Drake Thomas NC State
LB Kyle Soelle Arizona St
LB Garrett Nelson Nebraska
LB Thomas Rush Minnesota
LB Ben VanSumeren Michigan St
LB Dillon Doyle Baylor
LB Ryan Greenhagen Fordham
LB Caden McDonald San Diego St
LB Johnny Buchanan Delaware
LB Trevor Nowaske Saginaw Valley St
LB Bumper Pool Arkansas

Defensive Back
CB Riley Moss Iowa
CB Ethan Bonner Stanford
FS John Torchio Wisconsin
 

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Here is my final attempt at the most comprehensive list of White athletes for this year's NFL draft. I have reviewed this thread and added players I originally missed based on pro day results reported in.

Quarterback
QB Will Levis Kentucky
QB Tanner McKee Stanford
QB Stetson Bennett Georgia
QB Max Duggan TCU
QB Tyson Bagent Shepherd
QB Clayton Tune Houston
QB Jake Haener Fresno St
QB Aidan O'Connell Purdue
QB Sean Clifford PSU
QB Tommy Devito Illinois
QB Tanner Morgan Minnesota
QB Tim Demorat Fordham
QB Holton Ahlers ECU

Runningback/Fullback
FB Hunter Luepke
RB Brad Roberts Air Force
FB Jack Colletto Oregon St

Wide Receiver
WR Charlie Jones Purdue
WR Jake Bobo UCLA
WR Chase Cota Oregon
WR David Duren West Florida
WR Taylor Grimes Incarnate Word
WR Ryan Miller Furman
WR Kade Warner Kansas St
WR Danny Kittner University of Mary
WR Garett Maag North Dakota
WR Thayer Thomas NC State
WR Cody Chrest Sam Houston State
WR Oliver Martin Nebraska

Tight End
TE Michael Mayer Notre Dame
TE Dalton Kincaid Utah
TE Sam LaPorta Iowa
TE Payne Durham Purdue
TE Tucker Craft SDSU
TE Will Mallory Miami
TE Zack Kuntz Old Dominion
TE Davis Allen Clemson
TE Luke Musgrave Oregon St
TE Josh Whyle Cincinatti
TE Luke Schoonmaker Michigan
TE Griffin Herbert La Tech
TE Luke Ford Illinois
TE Joel Wilson C. Michigan
TE Thomas Greaney Albany
TE Brady Russell Colorado
TE Ben Sims Baylor

Offensive Tackle
OT Peter Skoronski Northwestern
OT Cody Mauch NDSU
OT Ryan Hayes Michigan
OT Blake Freeland BYU
OT Alex Forsyth Oregon
OT Harris LaChance BYU
OT Alex Palczewski Illinois
OT Luke Haggard Indiana
OT Dalton Wagner Arkansas
OT Mason Brooks Ole Miss
OT Kilian Zierer Auburn
OT Connor Galvin Baylor
OT Jaxon Kirkland Washington
OT Joey Fisher Shepherd
OT Jake Witt Northern Michigan
OT Henry Byrd Princeton

Center
OC John Michael Schmitz Minnesota
OC Jarrett Patterson Notre Dame
OC Joe Tippman Wisconsin
OC Luke Wypler Ohio St
OC Ricky Stromberg Arkansas
OC Alex Forsyth Oregon
OC Alan Ali TCU

Guard
OG Andrew Vorhees USC
OG Nick Broeker Ole Miss
OG Jake Andrews Troy
OG Nick Saldiveri Old Dominion
OG Cooper Hodges App St
OG Trevor Downing Iowa St
OG Nash Jensen NDSU
OG Dylan Deatherage Western Michigan
OG Vincent Picozzi Northwestern
OG TJ Bass Oregon

Defensive Tackle
DT Bryan Bresee Clemson
DT Eli Huggins Kansas St
DT Scott Matlock Boise State
DT Jacob Slade Michigan St
DT Levi Bell Texas St

Defensive End/Edge
DE Lukas Van Ness Iowa
DE Derek Parish Houston
DE Spencer Waege NDSU
DE Brock Martin Oklahoma St
DE George Tarlas Boise St
DE John Waggoner Iowa
DE Zeke Vandenburgh Illinois State

Linebacker
LB Drew Sanders Arkansas
LB Jack Campbell Iowa
LB Drake Thomas NC State
LB Kyle Soelle Arizona St
LB Garrett Nelson Nebraska
LB Thomas Rush Minnesota
LB Ben VanSumeren Michigan St
LB Dillon Doyle Baylor
LB Ryan Greenhagen Fordham
LB Caden McDonald San Diego St
LB Johnny Buchanan Delaware
LB Trevor Nowaske Saginaw Valley St
LB Bumper Pool Arkansas

Defensive Back
CB Riley Moss Iowa
CB Ethan Bonner Stanford
FS John Torchio Wisconsin
Thanks Leonardfan for the update. So disappointing though to see the lack of white players at the RB/DB positions.
 

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Here is my final attempt at the most comprehensive list of White athletes for this year's NFL draft. I have reviewed this thread and added players I originally missed based on pro day results reported in.

Quarterback
QB Will Levis Kentucky
QB Tanner McKee Stanford
QB Stetson Bennett Georgia
QB Max Duggan TCU
QB Tyson Bagent Shepherd
QB Clayton Tune Houston
QB Jake Haener Fresno St
QB Aidan O'Connell Purdue
QB Sean Clifford PSU
QB Tommy Devito Illinois
QB Tanner Morgan Minnesota
QB Tim Demorat Fordham
QB Holton Ahlers ECU

Runningback/Fullback
FB Hunter Luepke
RB Brad Roberts Air Force
FB Jack Colletto Oregon St

Wide Receiver
WR Charlie Jones Purdue
WR Jake Bobo UCLA
WR Chase Cota Oregon
WR David Duren West Florida
WR Taylor Grimes Incarnate Word
WR Ryan Miller Furman
WR Kade Warner Kansas St
WR Danny Kittner University of Mary
WR Garett Maag North Dakota
WR Thayer Thomas NC State
WR Cody Chrest Sam Houston State
WR Oliver Martin Nebraska

Tight End
TE Michael Mayer Notre Dame
TE Dalton Kincaid Utah
TE Sam LaPorta Iowa
TE Payne Durham Purdue
TE Tucker Craft SDSU
TE Will Mallory Miami
TE Zack Kuntz Old Dominion
TE Davis Allen Clemson
TE Luke Musgrave Oregon St
TE Josh Whyle Cincinatti
TE Luke Schoonmaker Michigan
TE Griffin Herbert La Tech
TE Luke Ford Illinois
TE Joel Wilson C. Michigan
TE Thomas Greaney Albany
TE Brady Russell Colorado
TE Ben Sims Baylor

Offensive Tackle
OT Peter Skoronski Northwestern
OT Cody Mauch NDSU
OT Ryan Hayes Michigan
OT Blake Freeland BYU
OT Alex Forsyth Oregon
OT Harris LaChance BYU
OT Alex Palczewski Illinois
OT Luke Haggard Indiana
OT Dalton Wagner Arkansas
OT Mason Brooks Ole Miss
OT Kilian Zierer Auburn
OT Connor Galvin Baylor
OT Jaxon Kirkland Washington
OT Joey Fisher Shepherd
OT Jake Witt Northern Michigan
OT Henry Byrd Princeton

Center
OC John Michael Schmitz Minnesota
OC Jarrett Patterson Notre Dame
OC Joe Tippman Wisconsin
OC Luke Wypler Ohio St
OC Ricky Stromberg Arkansas
OC Alex Forsyth Oregon
OC Alan Ali TCU

Guard
OG Andrew Vorhees USC
OG Nick Broeker Ole Miss
OG Jake Andrews Troy
OG Nick Saldiveri Old Dominion
OG Cooper Hodges App St
OG Trevor Downing Iowa St
OG Nash Jensen NDSU
OG Dylan Deatherage Western Michigan
OG Vincent Picozzi Northwestern
OG TJ Bass Oregon

Defensive Tackle
DT Bryan Bresee Clemson
DT Eli Huggins Kansas St
DT Scott Matlock Boise State
DT Jacob Slade Michigan St
DT Levi Bell Texas St

Defensive End/Edge
DE Lukas Van Ness Iowa
DE Derek Parish Houston
DE Spencer Waege NDSU
DE Brock Martin Oklahoma St
DE George Tarlas Boise St
DE John Waggoner Iowa
DE Zeke Vandenburgh Illinois State

Linebacker
LB Drew Sanders Arkansas
LB Jack Campbell Iowa
LB Drake Thomas NC State
LB Kyle Soelle Arizona St
LB Garrett Nelson Nebraska
LB Thomas Rush Minnesota
LB Ben VanSumeren Michigan St
LB Dillon Doyle Baylor
LB Ryan Greenhagen Fordham
LB Caden McDonald San Diego St
LB Johnny Buchanan Delaware
LB Trevor Nowaske Saginaw Valley St
LB Bumper Pool Arkansas

Defensive Back
CB Riley Moss Iowa
CB Ethan Bonner Stanford
FS John Torchio Wisconsin
Thanks Leonardfan! Really good detailed list your work is appreciated
 

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Apparently Ethan Bonner had a great Pro Day (4.39 40), what are his chances at being picked, @Leonardfan ? I haven't been following college football for quite a few years now, other than stats or occasional highlights of white players.
 

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His chance of getting drafted is minimal. He should get a UDFA deal though.

So Ethan Bonner runs a 4.39 and is a cornerback but he won't be drafted most likely. That makes no sense but we all know they
don't care about stats and numbers when it's our guys. Only when the magical athletes do it are they athletes praised & hyped up
to boost their draft status. This country is so anti white that it makes me just want to scream as loud as I can. The racism against
whites in all sports and every aspect of society is insane and so unfair. Yet we are told we have everything. All lies & whites worked
for everything we have!

Somehow I hope a team has some courage and drafts Bonner in the 7th round!
 

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Yes, great work by Leonardfan as always.
Thanks Don. Trying my best to track our guys.

Thanks Leonardfan! Really good detailed list your work is appreciated
Thanks Woody39. Maybe the Pats will reference this list lol.


Thanks Leonardfan for the update. So disappointing though to see the lack of white players at the RB/DB positions.
Thanks CS. The beat certainly goes on at those positions.
 

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Thank you LF and all you guys providing draft updates. I read all of them but don’t comment too much as I know we'll be disappointed I a week and a half.
 

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Thanks Don. Trying my best to track our guys.


Thanks Woody39. Maybe the Pats will reference this list lol.



Thanks CS. The beat certainly goes on at those positions.
Haha my hope of Jack Campbell, Blake Freeland and Luke Schoonmaker for the Patriots is unlikely to come to pass!!
 

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Checking out some mocks on cbs and they have as many as 8 whites in round one in a mock.

Levis to Raiders at 7
Skoronski to the Bears at 9
Van Ness to the Eagles at 10
Mayer to the Packers at 15
Kincaid to the Lions at 18
Schmitz to the Giants at 25
Sanders to the Bills at 27
La Porta to Bengals at 28.

Probably best we can hope for.
 

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I have been much more muted in my draft coverage than I can remember. I have been doing some research over the past few days in my free time and have decided to do my predraft write up.

With a week until the draft it looks like it's trending closer to the 2015 draft (the blackest draft on record). I have read a few 7 round mock drafts and they all seem to have the White body count in the low 40s (not including special team players). These of course should taken with a grain of salt but none the less set the barometer for what to expect.

It sounds like the undersized Bryce Young is going 1st overall - another plug and play Alabama quarterback. Meanwhile Stetson Bennett is projected to be an UDFA - the only two differences between them are Bennett is old for a prospect and White. I have a hard time thinking he would be viewed as a top prospect if he were 22 instead of 25. Let us not forget Hendon Hooker is 25 years old and was put into a QB friendly offensive system, is coming off a torn ACL and has been getting hype.I actually saw someone call this out in the comments on profootballtalk and it received a higher number of upvotes than downvotes. Pleasant surprise on someone else calling this stuff out. I have seen Bennett linked to the Ravens as well due to Baltimore hiring the former UGA offensive coordinator.

Here is the comment:

dryzzt23 says:
April 17, 2023 at 3:36 pm
So age is an issue for Stetson…but not for Hendon Hooker? Breaking the law is bad for Stetson but not for Jalen Carter? I sense a LOT of PC bias here. Stetson CAN make all the throws, he certainly outperformed EVERY QB in the 2022 and 2023 NFL drafts….yet he’s not draftable? I think that if Stetson’s skin tone was darker, he’d be a media favorite…but he’s pale so everyone is making sure to use him to check their PC boxes.

Levis is getting the expected treatment White QBs will face from now on - much more highly scrutinized than their black counterparts - my guess is this trend will be the common practice in the caste system moving forward. One of the more comical criticisms of Levis was that he could not beat out Sean Clifford for the starting job at PSU. I am not the biggest Clifford fan but as a college QB he was very good and won alot of games for the Nittany Lions. These same dopes won't say anything about Anthony Richardson not being able to beat out Emory Jones though. I for one will be rooting for Levis to end up in a good situation.

My best bet for the other White QBs in this draft and where they will end up getting drafted is:
Tanner McKee 3rd-4th round
Aidan O'Connell 4th-5th
Jake Haener 4th-6th
Holton Ahlers 5th-6th
Clayton Tune 6th-UDFA
Stetson Bennett 6th-UDFA
Max Duggan 7th-UDFA

In trying to be positive I think seeing 6 White QBs drafted would be a win this year just due to the totally unchallenged force fed black qb agenda being pushed by the media, moronic fans and league. Every year teams are often hurt by their lack of investing in and developing QBs through the draft.

It's very possible TE is the only position that double digit White athletes will get drafted. It's probably the most stacked White position I can recall in some time. Interesting that when White athletes are given the opportunity to play a certain position they dominate. Several of these guys could have been edge defenders. Overall the views on the TE class have been very good in regards to our guys. Of course the media is hyping up the decently productive black TE from Georgia as the best in the class but I think we all know the best TEs this year are White.

Michael Mayer, Dalton Kincaid, Sam LaPorta and Luke Musgrave all seem to be slated to go anywhere from the late 1st round to the third round. Tucker Craft, Josh Whyle, Luke Schoonmaker, Zach Kuntz , Will Mallory could all be late 3rd to 5th rounders and we could see some surprises to bump the number of Whites drafted to end up being +10.
 

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Here’s the first positive article I’ve read on Luepke’s draft chances. The author actually watched the film instead of just stereotyping him as a tight end/hb/fb. It also has more of his numbers from pro day, cone drill, etc. I really hope this kid gets a chance to run the ball! https://www.underdogdynasty.com/pla...unter-luepke-north-dakota-state-bison-fcs-mvc
Yes it's refreshing to see a rare journalist that actually is color blind and watches the game footage without a bias. The kid is very
talented and If he would have been healthy all through college his stats would be even better. He is a dangerous weapon who can
really help a team to win in so many different ways. I wouldn't mind seeing him in New England. Maybe the Niners even as he could
learn some things and take over in the near future.
 

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Yes it's refreshing to see a rare journalist that actually is color blind and watches the game footage without a bias. The kid is very
talented and If he would have been healthy all through college his stats would be even better. He is a dangerous weapon who can
really help a team to win in so many different ways. I wouldn't mind seeing him in New England. Maybe the Niners even as he could
learn some things and take over in the near future.
I have seen him in Patriots mock drafts recently by beat writers and pats draft experts so we'll see!
 

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Good article. Hopefully he ends up being a 3rd round pick as projected in the article.
It won't be as the various forms of a fullback a third round selection would be as a bruising tailback/running back with some fullback usage.
 

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It won't be as the various forms of a fullback a third round selection would be as a bruising tailback/running back with some fullback usage.
And even that doesn't mean anything as far as getting to run the ball. Heath Evans, Rob Konrad and Jacob Hester quickly come to mind as all three were drafted in the second or third round and all three were overwhelmingly used as fullbacks instead of the running backs they should have been.
 

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And even that doesn't mean anything as far as getting to run the ball. Heath Evans, Rob Konrad and Jacob Hester quickly come to mind as all three were drafted in the second or third round and all three were overwhelmingly used as fullbacks instead of the running backs they should have been.
Rathman, Hoover, etc..... and more recently Kyle Juszczyk. Juice could easily be a star RB in the NFL. Even though Rathman was a Rb/Fb at Nebraska, another in the long line of fullbacks that could have been good running backs.
 
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