2021 NFL Week 8

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McCaffrey and Hillis dominated when they were given the opportunity, they weren't held back by a plethora of holding calls.

If you or anyone else can provide more than speculation that games are manipulated by too many penalties being called against White players, that's fine. I've been watching the NFL during the entire Caste System era and haven't noticed Whites being victimized more than Blacks by penalties. Football plays are brief spasms of action, I highly doubt that referees start doing mental processing such as "Let's see, a White player is running the ball I better throw a flag for holding." It's like you said, the penalties are magnified more because there are so few Whites playing running back, just as it's magnified when White players get injured.

I'm just reiterating that speculation on a topic with nothing to back it up is counter-productive when the Caste System itself is obvious and glaring. To me, when engaged in repeatedly it makes the site look silly. I went through it on this topic for a long time with a poster who had a lot of good observations but was irrational on a couple of subjects, and it ain't coming back here again. My subjective opinion perhaps, but one I feel strongly about.
 

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McCaffrey and Hillis dominated when they were given the opportunity, they weren't held back by a plethora of holding calls.

If you or anyone else can provide more than speculation that games are manipulated by too many penalties being called against White players, that's fine. I've been watching the NFL during the entire Caste System era and haven't noticed Whites being victimized more than Blacks by penalties. Football plays are brief spasms of action, I highly doubt that referees start doing mental processing such as "Let's see, a White player is running the ball I better throw a flag for holding." It's like you said, the penalties are magnified more because there are so few Whites playing running back, just as it's magnified when White players get injured.

I'm just reiterating that speculation on a topic with nothing to back it up is counter-productive when the Caste System itself is obvious and glaring. To me, when engaged in repeatedly it makes the site look silly. I went through it on this topic for a long time with a poster who had a lot of good observations but was irrational on a couple of subjects, and it ain't coming back here again. My subjective opinion perhaps, but one I feel strongly about.
Don I just wanted to chime in with my opinion on this issue because I supported warhawks initial post. I don’t believe it’s a conspiracy on the refs part or an issue with featured backs like Hillis and Cmac as they are in on nearly every offensive play ( although it would be interesting for some autist to do the exhaustive research to see how many yards called back/penalties they had compared to their black counterparts). I think it is more of a hyper awareness on the refs part when a white is the backfield and gets a carry or catch on spot duty. It’s such a rare situation for the refs that their senses are on overload and may throw more flags. Ive been hunting a lot the last two weeks which is why this crossed my mind. When you are scanning a area looking for game and you see anything that looks out of place your adrenaline and excitement increases. May be a a stretch but I used to watch a lot of football and this seemed to be the case to me. I’ll drop it from here on out.
 
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I heard the Titans gave O.J. Simpson a call.
False story. That was just a rumor.

The fact is, Earl Campbell is no longer using his walker and will be going through team drills by Wednesday afternoon.
 

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On another note, but related since we are talking about holding calls, I wonder if Sandro Plautzhammer (sp?) will ever get called to action. The Giants have some backfield injuries and the Austrian has speed to spare.

Even though it was crumbs, it was nice to see Burkhead with a few carries (5.3 avg) and a TD. His first real action of the year. Also Nall got his first carry of the year and Laird hauled in a reception in his first game. Again, crumbs but good to see.

Petersen is washed up but he will get carries in Tennessee and Nall will get nothing because the league cannot have a big, strong white running back emasculating the black defenses again like Hillis did for a couple of years. Never again will that be allowed to happen due to black fragility.
 

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Nice to see Daniel Jones go to Kyle Rudolph in a clutch situation. If he had thrown to Evan Engram instead there's a 50% chance he would've dropped it.

Also, Sorensen thoroughly skewered by Riddick (I think it was him, he and Griese sound a lot alike) for the crime of being on the scene of a 50 yard catch. He had about a season there where he was grudgingly given respect by the media and DWFs, but he appears to be finished now as he's become the latest Chris Conte.
 

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Nice to see Daniel Jones go to Kyle Rudolph in a clutch situation. If he had thrown to Evan Engram instead there's a 50% chance he would've dropped it.

Also, Sorensen thoroughly skewered by Riddick (I think it was him, he and Griese sound a lot alike) for the crime of being on the scene of a 50 yard catch. He had about a season there where he was grudgingly given respect by the media and DWFs, but he appears to be finished now as he's become the latest Chris Conte.

The coverage on that play wasn't terrible, contact was not egregious, the Giants player just made a play on the ball by going back to it.

I was watching the game at the gym while on a machine - so I didn't have the joy of listening to the bozo MNF crew disparage Sorensen. As for the Giants - they are just not a good team - alot of retread affletes - Pettis is somehow getting heavy playing time after busting in San Francisco, John Ross (remember the hype around him) has done jack **** for the Giants. Rudolph and Smith are the best targets for Jones. Garrett's play calling is bad as well. If the Giants actually put pieces around Jones they would be a good team.
 

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Hopefully we get a big 2nd half from Jones and Rudolph, just not at the expense of Sorensen or Niemann....
 

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It is interesting to see the Chiefs somewhat struggle again on offense especially against a mediocre Giants defense.
 

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The "gunslinger" Mahomes is looking like a run of the mill game manager, and an inaccurate one at that.
 

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The coverage on that play wasn't terrible, contact was not egregious, the Giants player just made a play on the ball by going back to it.

I was watching the game at the gym while on a machine - so I didn't have the joy of listening to the bozo MNF crew disparage Sorensen. As for the Giants - they are just not a good team - alot of retread affletes - Pettis is somehow getting heavy playing time after busting in San Francisco, John Ross (remember the hype around him) has done jack **** for the Giants. Rudolph and Smith are the best targets for Jones. Garrett's play calling is bad as well. If the Giants actually put pieces around Jones they would be a good team.

Poor offensive line year after year, all of the receivers are average at best and are constantly injured, the tight end Engram is a clear first round bust but of course he still has unrealized upside just waiting to be unleashed, just a bad organization that hires nondescript head coaches. I feel sorry for Daniel Jones, he's smart and athletic and has a strong and accurate arm. He could excel with a good team.
 
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In fairness, 5 of Mahomes' 10 interceptions have been tipped by his gator-armed afflete receivers who can't stop slipping on their routes. 2 were tipped by Hill, 1 was tipped by Kemp, 1 was tipped by Gordon, and 1 was tipped by Gordon and then subsequently by McKinnon.

Now, he's thrown plenty of desperation picks that I will absolutely not defend him for. He needs to learn how to stop playing hero-ball and take what the defense gives him. But since we (rightfully) point out when a white QB's passes are deflected by a teammate and picked off, it's only fair that we recognize when a black QB experiences the same bad luck.
 

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In fairness, 5 of Mahomes' 10 interceptions have been tipped by his gator-armed afflete receivers who can't stop slipping on their routes. 2 were tipped by Hill, 1 was tipped by Kemp, 1 was tipped by Gordon, and 1 was tipped by Gordon and then subsequently by McKinnon.

Now, he's thrown plenty of desperation picks that I will absolutely not defend him for. He needs to learn how to stop playing hero-ball and take what the defense gives him. But since we (rightfully) point out when a white QB's passes are deflected by a teammate and picked off, it's only fair that we recognize when a black QB experiences the same bad luck.

The White QBs aren't all given the title the Greatest QB of all time 5 years into their career though and labeled the future of the position (for the obvious reason). I do think teams have learned how to play the Chiefs defensively to an extent. Mahomes mechanical flaws are really evident this year as well.
 

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Kelce's playing like he has a bad hangover. He's been banged up of late, definitely doesn't look right.

Did anyone catch it when one of the announcers said that Kadarius Toney the Giants receiver can throw a ball 65 yards while standing still? Quite a whopper but it doesn't begin to compare to Crissy's all-time classic line that Donovan McNabb could throw a football 80 yards from his knees with a flick of his wrist.
 

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I think there was some misunderstanding - refs are not making up holding when whites run the ball. As we both have stated, there is holding on every single play. Anyone who played football is aware of this.

My point remains that when a ref makes the holding call on the field (as he could in every play if we are being realistic), the impact is magnified when a white man is running the ball as whites are so rarely given opportunity to play running back.

I would also be remiss to simply dismiss that some referees, whether by decree or by bias, reach for their flags a bit more easily when a white running back is playing. Because the unconscious (or conscious) leading narrative is that white men are less athletic. While irrational and racist, could it make them quicker or more prone to throw the flag? Sure it could! Does it? Who knows and there is no way to accurately quantify it, nor the time to do so.

But when the agenda is so clear to diminish white mens’ athletic prowess as Marxists cannot allow alpha white men to be held in high regard; when the narrative is allowed to begin to crack as it has; when all out cultural war against conservatives is happening; when NFL cameras zoom in on the closest white defender, even if hey has nothing to do with the touchdown a black corner just gave up, to subtly say he is to blame...

How can we be so dismissive of games being manipulated in subtle ways? Everything else is being manipulated by the Marxists and MSM.
Excellent post. I especially agree with what I emboldened.

I’ll respect Don’s wishes but I too was in no way implying the games are rigged and only White athletes are having good plays overturned. I think it could be a (likely) unconscious bias that makes the refs a little more whistle happy when it comes to White players.

And to be fair, we have to highlight it when we see it. Remember our “camera singling out a White player” seemed like a conspiracy theory when it was first pointed out years ago. Now after years of documenting its frequent occurrence, it’s acknowledged (at least here) as a coordinated attack on White athletes.
 

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OMG……both talking heads beating up on Sorenson for barely getting beat on a 5 yard TD route……you would think it was the winning TD in a SB and Sorenson totally blew the coverage……..thank goodness for this website that allows me to remain sane at times……….
 

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Kelce's playing like he has a bad hangover. He's been banged up of late, definitely doesn't look right.

Did anyone catch it when one of the announcers said that Kadarius Toney the Giants receiver can throw a ball 65 yards while standing still? Quite a whopper but it doesn't begin to compare to Crissy's all-time classic line that Donovan McNabb could throw a football 80 yards from his knees with a flick of his wrist.
I remember for years, we had the Caste Football phrase “dat wrist flick” due to buffoonish comments like the Crissy one. They used to always says ridiculous things about Michael Vick too. So much so that DWFs thought he could throw the ball endzone to endzone.
 

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So how many black defenders made mistakes tonight?.. probably too many to list, Yet you could count on two fingers the number of times was it even mentioned by the commentators, let alone picked apart into a film session like they just did to Sorensen. There’s no coincidence, these clowns in the booth are told exactly who to **** on....
 

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I remember for years, we had the Caste Football phrase “dat wrist flick” due to buffoonish comments like the Crissy one. They used to always says ridiculous things about Michael Vick too. So much so that DWFs thought he could throw the ball endzone to endzone.
The most ridiculous thing about it is that it's always some nonsensical superlative that means nothing to the game of football....
 

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When Fat Bastard singled out Sorensen as the sole scapegoat for the team's defensive troubles, his fate was sealed. Everyone and their brother have been piling on ever since. White safeties are readily despised and it takes very little to get the herd braying.
 

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Rex Burkhead played 30 snaps in Week 8 (49%) to 11 for David Johnson and 8 for Phillip Lindsay, the first time all season he's been above 18%. Considering it happened after Mark Ingram was traded it offers some hope that Rex will continue to play a fair amount.

The most productive linebacker in the league on a per snap basis, Alex Singleton, saw his snaps decline for the fourth consecutive game, all the way down to 34% on Sunday, simply ridiculous.
 
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