2020 NFL Draft

Leonardfan said:
Yea the whole BSPN love affair with the SEC is having a negative effect. I feel the old tradition of the SEC conference (back when whites could play all over the field) prior to the caste system has been parlayed into the belief that the SEC has the best players now. I despise the SEC and it's DWF degenerate fan bases. Another reason I have lost respect for Belichik is his blind devotion to the SEC/Saban however when you look at his track record with SEC players drafted it has been spotty.

Not stalking you @Bucky but just bored today and not working so I figured I would chime in on your thoughts!
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haha no problem I'm obviously bored as ever too. Between couped up in "quarantine" and rain for last three days!

SEC DWFs are a different breed. Witnessed it first hand after spending some time in Kentucky.. Not like the ACC Cardinals fans were much better lol.
 
Bucky said:
Interesting to note that the SEC and ESPN are in a contract together. Guaranteed they're getting some kind of kickback for every SEC player they hype up that's been drafted.
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Since I got rid of my sports package I was told that the NFL network was using the ESPN feed to telecast the draft. I can't verify that? But I looked up who owned the NFL network and the CEO is Steve Bornstein who used to work for ESPN. I thought it was strange they were sharing a feed because they are "supposed" to be competing networks.

I noticed when ESPN back when got rid of hockey they totally ignored it after that. They bought up three out of the four majors in tennis only to place it in a minor role. Instead it only reinvigorated their main focus which has been basketball and football with an obvious devotion towards black "stars."

Since ESPN is in bed with the SEC more than any other football conference I don't think it is beyond the pale to suggest there might be some sort of payola situation going on. I wouldn't know.

Perhaps broaching on Big Gun Real territory to a certain degree, although I maintain game outcomes are not fixed, we could be looking at a rigged system. ESPN is the most powerful sports media outlet out there ( big money as Disney owns them) and it is possible they can arrange things where they can funnel certain players into the NFL for purposes of promoting their most vested interests and in this case it would be the SEC who the ESPN regularly telecasts not only on their standard networks but also on their very own SEC network which appeared on the scene a few years ago and in some locales requires extra payment from cable subscribers.

I don't know enough to come to any conclusion but by God there were an awful lot of suspect SEC players chosen in the past few drafts. Again I admit I am out of my element and I can't even conceive what is going on out there. Factor in greasy not to be trusted agents would it shock if something illegal was going on? There could be a very strange money trail going on here?
 
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Since I got rid of my sports package I was told that the NFL network was using the ESPN feed to telecast the draft. I can't verify that? But I looked up who owned the NFL network and the CEO is Steve Bornstein who used to work for ESPN. I thought it was strange they were sharing a feed because they are "supposed" to be competing networks.

I noticed when ESPN back when got rid of hockey they totally ignored it after that. They bought up three out of the four majors in tennis only to place it in a minor role. Instead it only reinvigorated their main focus which has been basketball and football with an obvious devotion towards black "stars."

Since ESPN is in bed with the SEC more than any other football conference I don't think it is beyond the pale to suggest there might be some sort of payola situation going on. I wouldn't know.

Perhaps broaching on Big Gun Real territory to a certain degree, although I maintain game outcomes are not fixed, we could be looking at a rigged system. ESPN is the most powerful sports media outlet out there ( big money as Disney owns them) and it is possible they can arrange things where they can funnel certain players into the NFL for purposes of promoting their most vested interests and in this case it would be the SEC who the ESPN regularly telecasts not only on their standard networks but also on their very own SEC network which appeared on the scene a few years ago and in some locales requires extra payment from cable subscribers.

I don't know enough to come to any conclusion but by God there were an awful lot of suspect SEC players chosen in the past few drafts. Again I admit I am out of my element and I can't even conceive what is going on out there. Factor in greasy not to be trusted agents would it shock if something illegal was going on? There could be a very strange money trail going on here?
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Haha very interesting that the CEO of NFL Network used to be an ESPN guy!Shows how the big companies control everything. Kind of like when former high Ranking Monsanto people have conned their way into working for US Health Department, Making sure to please their corporate communist sponsors.

Also interesting that the SEC recruiting budget dwarfs just about every other school combined.

Follow the $ and I'm sure my theory isn't that far off.
 
Bucky said:
Let's hope the Draft dweebs are way off. Nagy posted this today: 7 of 8 isn't bad odds for SR Bowl QBs they're keeping an eye on. Pretty sure the NDSU black quarterback will still only be a Redshirt Soph..

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Due to my boredom I jumped on twitter and sent the other rodent Nagy a quote on where Sam Ehlinger was. I think Ehlinger will be the player I follow closest much like Herbert was this season. Ehlinger supposedly has all the traits the new NFL wants - big, athletic, strong arm, dual threat but we know what he is lacking. He deserves to be a 1st round pick.
 
ESPN is pure trash. Back in 2014, the local cable company put the NFL Network on free for two weeks (or a month?), hoping DWF's would subscribe. It was pure and utter garbage, filled with inarticulate former (black) NFL stars babbling about stupid things and giggling uncontrollably at even dumber things. I wouldn't pay 5 cents a month for it, let alone $5.

Looking back, I think most of those inarticulate fools I watched for a few moments back in 2014 were eventually fired (McNabb, Sapp, ect.) for sexually harassing an unattractive, post-menopausal Jewish woman that worked at the Network?
 
An example of the racial stereotyping of white athletes is Auburn offensive tackle Jack Driscoll. Driscoll's scouting profile says he has high end athleticism but lacks strength. He's good handling athletic speed rushers but not as good handling power rushers. This is the scouting report of a player best suited to play left tackle. So where does the mainstream media say he must play? Right tackle or guard.

The agenda the liberal media has is to promote whites as unathletic, So, according to the liberal media, whites should not be allowed to play positions thought to require more athleticism. So they racially slot highly athletic players such as Driscoll into what they consider racially appropriate slots.
 
Extra Point said:
An example of the racial stereotyping of white athletes is Auburn offensive tackle Jack Driscoll. Driscoll's scouting profile says he has high end athleticism but lacks strength. He's good handling athletic speed rushers but not as good handling power rushers. This is the scouting report of a player best suited to play left tackle. So where does the mainstream media say he must play? Right tackle or guard.

The agenda the liberal media has is to promote whites as unathletic, So, according to the liberal media, whites should not be allowed to play positions thought to require more athleticism. So they racially slot highly athletic players such as Driscoll into what they consider racially appropriate slots.
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Good point, I heard the same thing regarding Ezra Cleveland. Both Cleveland and Driscoll are highly athletic, so to knock them down and promote sumos, they claim they don't have enough strength.
 
Extra Point said:
An example of the racial stereotyping of white athletes is Auburn offensive tackle Jack Driscoll. Driscoll's scouting profile says he has high end athleticism but lacks strength. He's good handling athletic speed rushers but not as good handling power rushers. This is the scouting report of a player best suited to play left tackle. So where does the mainstream media say he must play? Right tackle or guard.

The agenda the liberal media has is to promote whites as unathletic, So, according to the liberal media, whites should not be allowed to play positions thought to require more athleticism. So they racially slot highly athletic players such as Driscoll into what they consider racially appropriate slots.
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And people think it's nothing but a meritocracy! Despite any discrepancies when comparing to other sports, no doubt probably the greatest driver for these views in the modern day, people will just point to the composition of the leagues for their lousy white athlete views, they legitimately think black's heavy over-representation is entirely on merit and the and some cases that the NFL is actually racist against them (this really gets me). Without these leagues under there control the un-athletic white meme would be far less prevalent, these America-centric leagues are also the reason why this meme is markedly less prevalent outside of the US despite the media trying to push it everywhere.
 
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I like to do my own scouting on players when possible and time permitting. I don't claim to be particularly good at it but like to form my own opinions. Here's a video I watched of Boise State offensive tackle Ezra Cleveland against Florida State. I figured Florida State would be a good sample game because they're considered a major program.

Cleveland is clearly athletic and moves well. He did give up some ground on bull rushes but none of them got to the quarterback. One thing I noticed is he didn't follow through on plays as long as he could have on some plays. This can be seen at 10:40 and 13:28.

There have been highly athletic tackles who have failed, such as Jake Fisher and Jason Spriggs. They were both taken in the second round and have never risen beyond being reserves.
There is also the example of a highly athletic tackle who has been successful is Brian O'Neill, who is a good starter and getting better.

I think Cleveland is more likely to be like O'Neill and was a good pick in the second round. He does need to get stronger but in an NFL program he should be able to do that.

What does anyone else think? Cleveland is the left tackle, number 76.

 
So the other Rodent Nagy - the one who runs the Senior Bowl has a tweet out to coaches to submit small school players that may be worthy of a senior bowl invite in 2021. I'd love some help from you guys in getting a list together of small school white athletes and I will shoot him the list. Ivy League, FCS and D-2 would probably be the best places to start. I am sure we can compile a nice list of Ivy League and FCS guys - Zane Dudek being the one off the top of my head. Let's try to all combine our efforts, knowledge and research ability - we may be able to help a few of our guys out. Try finding dominant players with great stats and focus on Ivy and FCS.
 
Leonardfan said:
So the other Rodent Nagy - the one who runs the Senior Bowl has a tweet out to coaches to submit small school players that may be worthy of a senior bowl invite in 2021. I'd love some help from you guys in getting a list together of small school white athletes and I will shoot him the list. Ivy League, FCS and D-2 would probably be the best places to start. I am sure we can compile a nice list of Ivy League and FCS guys - Zane Dudek being the one off the top of my head. Let's try to all combine our efforts, knowledge and research ability - we may be able to help a few of our guys out. Try finding dominant players with great stats and focus on Ivy and FCS.
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Excellent. Dudek definitely comes to mind, as do safeties Will Warner and Brandon Easterling. NDSU tackle Dillon Radunz, Mauler, didn't give up a sack last season. Bryce Nunnelly at WR.
 
Bucky said:
Excellent. Dudek definitely comes to mind, as do safeties Will Warner and Brandon Easterling. NDSU tackle Dillon Radunz, Mauler, didn't give up a sack last season. Bryce Nunnelly at WR.
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@Bucky thanks for getting the list started! Nice combination of guys at caste positions. Hopefully we can find a standout white CB to add to the list as well.
 
Michigan left tackle Jon Runyan was drafted in the 6th round by Green Bay. Let's look at his situation. He's the son of a quality NFL offensive lineman so he has the bloodlines. He was first team all Big Ten at left tackle for two years. He tests out well athletically with an RAS of 8.49 (courtesy of @Mathbomb). His RAS would have been higher but he was downgraded because of his height and weight. He handled vaunted number 2 overall pick Chase Young when he played him. And all this translates to a 6th round pick?

I would have thought he would have gone at least in the 3rd round and maybe in the 2nd but it seems teams don't want white offensive linemen anymore.
 
Leonardfan said:
So the other Rodent Nagy - the one who runs the Senior Bowl has a tweet out to coaches to submit small school players that may be worthy of a senior bowl invite in 2021. I'd love some help from you guys in getting a list together of small school white athletes and I will shoot him the list. Ivy League, FCS and D-2 would probably be the best places to start. I am sure we can compile a nice list of Ivy League and FCS guys - Zane Dudek being the one off the top of my head. Let's try to all combine our efforts, knowledge and research ability - we may be able to help a few of our guys out. Try finding dominant players with great stats and focus on Ivy and FCS.
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I can't help with such a list much because I don't follow college football but I think this is a great idea! Maybe we can influence them. Maybe someone should start a separate thread for this.
 
Extra Point said:
Michigan left tackle Jon Runyan was drafted in the 6th round by Green Bay. Let's look at his situation. He's the son of a quality NFL offensive lineman so he has the bloodlines. He was first team all Big Ten at left tackle for two years. He tests out well athletically with an RAS of 8.49 (courtesy of @Mathbomb). His RAS would have been higher but he was downgraded because of his height and weight. He handled vaunted number 2 overall pick Chase Young when he played him. And all this translates to a 6th round pick?

I would have thought he would have gone at least in the 3rd round and maybe in the 2nd but it seems teams don't want white offensive linemen anymore.
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It looks like GB got themselves a steal in the 6th rd. I also agree he should have gone at least 3rds sooner! He's in the mix to be the backup to Veteran Ricky Wagner at RT. He could become a midyear starter if Wagner struggles with pass protection like he did last season for Detroit.
 
Leonardfan said:
So the other Rodent Nagy - the one who runs the Senior Bowl has a tweet out to coaches to submit small school players that may be worthy of a senior bowl invite in 2021. I'd love some help from you guys in getting a list together of small school white athletes and I will shoot him the list. Ivy League, FCS and D-2 would probably be the best places to start. I am sure we can compile a nice list of Ivy League and FCS guys - Zane Dudek being the one off the top of my head. Let's try to all combine our efforts, knowledge and research ability - we may be able to help a few of our guys out. Try finding dominant players with great stats and focus on Ivy and FCS.
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WR
Ben Ratzlaff- Houston Baptist (FCS). He caught 87 balls for 1,139 yards and 12TD's.
Trevor Begue-McNeese State (FCS). He caught 55 balls for 827 yards and 10TD's.
Tanner Conner- Idaho State(FCS) He caught 47 balls for 792 yards and 8TD's. Also runs track for the school (10.51 100M). 6'3' 225
Jacob Birmelin- Princeton(FCS). He caught 60 balls for for 767 yards and 3 TD's.
Henry Litwin- Slippery Rock (D2). he caught 103 balls for 1,509 yards and 21TD's.
 
Leonardfan said:
So the other Rodent Nagy - the one who runs the Senior Bowl has a tweet out to coaches to submit small school players that may be worthy of a senior bowl invite in 2021. I'd love some help from you guys in getting a list together of small school white athletes and I will shoot him the list. Ivy League, FCS and D-2 would probably be the best places to start. I am sure we can compile a nice list of Ivy League and FCS guys - Zane Dudek being the one off the top of my head. Let's try to all combine our efforts, knowledge and research ability - we may be able to help a few of our guys out. Try finding dominant players with great stats and focus on Ivy and FCS.
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DB
Evan Horn-New Hampshire (FCS) Led the team in tackles, INTs, and Force fumbles. Had 70 tackles, 4 picks, 2 FF and 4 sacks.
Calin Criner- Eastern Washington (FCS). He had 85 tackles and 4 picks.
Niko Mermigas- Dartmouth (FCS) Honorable Mention All-IVY
 
Here's a player who is an undrafted free agent. As far as I know he hasn't been signed. North Central's (Division 3) WR Andrew Kamienski. He had 133 receptions, 2016 yards and 31 TDs last year. I don't care what division he was in, with that kind of production he's worth an extended look...

Edit: Kamienski will be coming out for the 2021 draft.
 
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Extra Point said:
Here's a player who is an undrafted free agent. As far as I know he hasn't been signed. North Central's (Division 3) WR Andrew Kamienski. He had 133 receptions, 2016 yards and 31 TDs last year. I don't care what division he was in, with that kind of production he's worth an extended look...

Edit: Kamienski will be coming out for the 2021 draft.
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Kamienski is a beast. Was able to watch him play in D3 Championship last season and nearly every catch was him moving the chains.
 
2019 highlights of Tanner Muse. The party line is that Muse is slow footed, stiff and restricted in his movement. All of this is untrue. Just looking at the video you can see how fast he is and how well he moves. The mainstream media is perpetuating the myth that all whites are unathletic. The mainstream media says he must move to linebacker but I don't see it. He's athletic enough to become a quality NFL safety, though he would excel at linebacker too.

 
Here is my first reply: RB Zane Dudek Yale, NDSU OT Dillon Radunz, DB Evan Horn New Hampshire, DB Calin Criner EWU, WR Ben Ratzlaff Houston Baptist, WR Trevor Begue McNeese St, WR Tanner Conner Idaho St, S Hayden Bourgeois Northwestern St, DB COLE SCHROEDERMEIER Minnesota St.
 
The hype machine is already claiming that the 2021 receiver class will be better than this year's supposedly is. I don't have a subscription to Crissie Collinsworth's Pro Football Focus, but anyone who does and wants to summarize this article, feel free. About the only thing that can be counted on without reading it is that none of the acclaimed Day 1 and Day 2 receivers will be White.

The 2021 wide receiver class will be even better than 2020

https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2021-wide-receiver-class
 
Don Wassall said:
The hype machine is already claiming that the 2021 receiver class will be better than this year's supposedly is. I don't have a subscription to Crissie Collinsworth's Pro Football Focus, but anyone who does and wants to summarize this article, feel free. About the only thing that can be counted on without reading it is that none of the acclaimed Day 1 and Day 2 receivers will be White.

The 2021 wide receiver class will be even better than 2020

https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2021-wide-receiver-class
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Haven't even started looking at the 2021 class outside of digging up these small school white athletes and "tweeting" them to the senior bowl.
 
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