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Sam Hubbard the possible first round Edge player has decided not to run the 40 yard dash and will wait until his pro day. Unlike the black players he hasn't practiced running the 40 yard dash his entire life.

To finish up some thoughts on yesterday.

I think there is "too much thinking" going on when it comes to the number one QB. In the old days after watching sleeveless Josh Allen workout yesterday everyone would say he is the GUY.

As I have mentioned earlier if I was in charge of the Browns I am picking him at number one. Not only is he the best all around athlete at QB in the draft his arm is John Elway like--he can nearly throw a ball the entire length of a football field--- and he moves with incredible smoothness. Not perfect, who is, but I find it hard to believe someone is passing on him. And to boot he passes the personality test with flying colors.


I was surprised Mayfield ran the 40 in 4.81 seconds but more quick than fast he was terrific in the 20 yard shuttle.


There are a few solid TE's including Tyler Conklin and Dalton Schultz who should get drafted. Dallas Goedert, a small school prospect chose not to run and I haven't seen him play so have no comment on him.

To cut to the chase there are three stud TE's and they were on display Saturday. Word is perhaps all three will be chosen in the first round.


Mark Andrews will need to learn how to block but he has a very solid base and can get downfield. If you need a dynamic pass catching TE he is your man.

Mike Gesicki looked very smooth and explosive at Penn State. He might not fit into every team's scheme ( up the middle run happy teams) but the idea is to get him in space and watch him blossom. He is one of the most exciting players in the draft.

Hayden Hurst was a baseball player in the Minor Leagues which explains his natural athleticism. A cross between Ertz and Kelce he is the perfect all around TE and will be scooped up very early. Cannot find one flaw with him except for his age but that is of little importance. Talent alone he should be a top 5 pick.
 

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Word is Kyle Vander Esch, the rangy LB solidified his status with a solid work out. Has the look of a future NFL star.

DE Sam Hubbard who didn't run the 40 performed all the other tests and jumped 35 inches and was the fastest DL in the 3 cone drill. According to those in the know teams are salivating over him and why not. During the football skills portion the experts are ranking him the stud of the group. He is a REAL football player something that gets lost in the shuffle with this fruit cake caste oriented underwear Olympics known as the NFL Combine. The only way to improve play is for teams to draft real football players. Not the many black track athletes who put up eye popping numbers but can't play worth a damn.
 

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Weenieworld must be on suicide watch - they were all so confident that Jackson was going to "blow up" the combine with dat wrist flick.


Louisville QB Lamar Jackson's throwing session at the NFL Combine drew mixed reviews from NFL teams, per Walter Football's Charlie Campbell, but Jackson still has staunch supporters in the scouting community.

"Lamar has no idea how to throw with his core and legs," said one NFC scout who specializes in quarterbacks. "He's all arm and wrist action right now, very much like Cam [Newton] but much cleaner delivery. When he gets some serious coaching on driving his body into throws, he could be insane. Completely blank canvas. It's amazing he threw it as well as he did seeing how much work he needs in that aspect alone. There's not a QB coach alive who looked at that and didn't feel as if they could make a very good passer. Old rule: you can fix the feet - not the mind or arm." Jackson's throwing session was up-and-down -- like many quarterback prospects -- but it wasn't catastrophic. Like the scout above, we continue to think that Jackson's accuracy issues are being caused by a correctable mechanical issue. He isn't a plug-and-play starter or a sure thing, but the ceiling is sky high for a team willing to wait and put in the developmental time.

In other words he is currently not good but is laden with "upside." A typical scouting report for black players.

But how often do such players achieve their "upside?"
 

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"Completely blank canvas." LOL.

That is a classic one, have to remember it for future reference when making fun of upsiders and the media twits who come up with such silliness.
 

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Apparently Harrison Phillips had athletic question marks according to weenieworld. I guess they did not both to do any research into his wrestling career in high school or his dominance during his time at Stanford. They remain focused on the arbitrary 40 time.

Stanford DT Harrison Phillips ran the 40-yard dash in 5.21 seconds at the NFL Scouting Combine.

The 40-yard dash has limited value in evaluating defensive tackle prospects, but Phillips was slow on that front regardless. In far brighter testing results, the 6-foot-4, 307-pounder put up 42 reps on the bench press, jumps of 32 inches (vertical) and 103 inches (broad) and a 20-yard shuttle of 4.50 seconds. These are encouraging marks from a player whom we had athletic questions about entering action in Indianapolis.
 

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Although Ryan Nall had one of the best showings by a running back at the Combine, NFL.com isn't impressed, grading his Combine a 4.98, meaning he should be in an NFL training camp but with less than a 50/50 chance to make a roster. The always reliable Caste clown Lance Zierlein still sees him as a fullback/H-back and decries Nall's "very tight hips" and "dull feet." The entire write-up is here: https://www.nfl.com/prospects/ryan-nall?id=32462018-0002-5602-3398-489802ebbc60
 

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In other words he is currently not good but is laden with "upside." A typical scouting report for black players.

But how often do such players achieve their "upside?"

Bingo. The ones that don't are quickly faded out with newer hype jobs.
 

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One thing I noticed while watching the wideouts was how there weren't any that were being raved about this year. There's always at least one and usually several "can't miss" prospects predicted to be NFL superstars. But not this year. Considering how many black receivers drafted early turn out to be busts, that's pretty scary.

This was confirmed by a fantasy site I pay for which has always some good analysis on rookies. For example, this nugget: "Calvin Ridley, WR, Alabama - Ridley is one of the best prospects in a class that lacks a player that projects as a #1 in the NFL. He’s got deep speed and the ability to create separation with route running, but he isn’t going to add value with wins on jump balls or by breaking or eluding tackles after the catch. He’s an easy evaluation because he plays very fast, but under control a la Brandin Cooks."

Not a single player who projects as a #1 in the NFL? Amazing. Maybe if the talent pool wasn't extremely restricted each year with almost all White high school stars at WR not offered scholarships, persuaded to change positions, or forced to go to a small school with no chance of making the NFL, wide receiver might resemble the demographic mix at tight end, which in spite of the Caste System is becoming White dominated. But receiver is a "speed" position and thus will always be geared almost solely to blacks to fit the Big Lie narrative of overwhelming black superiority in speed and quickness even though it's obvious that Whites make better all-around receivers when given an opportunity.
 

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Leighton Vander Esch is actually said to be " a loose-hipped, instinctive linebacker who played in 2017 like he had a GPS tracker on the football. His production totals against both the run and pass are rare for being a first-year starter and with a frame that is primed for more muscle, his NFL ceiling is high". How many white athletes have been called "loose hipped" ?o_O

Harrison Phillips & Taven Bryan should go late 1st Round...

Trey Quinn put on some more bulk; built more like a RB; now weighing 203lbs (= McCaffrey) resulting in a bit slower 4.55 40 time; however he was in the Top 10 WR's w 20 yard & 60 yard shuttle times
Been compared to more athletic version of Brandon Stokley by one scout; NFL.com compares him to Adam Humphries; i think Quinn has more upside

Penn WR Justin Watson should have been invited too!

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Thanks for all of these updates. It's the only place I get news about it. I'm pretty familiar with most of these players from watching a lot of college ball.

As far as Nall goes, it'll take an intellectually honest GM and/or Owner with courage to buck the Caste system and draft him. Nall would be yet another White player that would grade out well if NFL teams would use the "Moneyball" approach in determining legitimate talent which would then translate into winning games and championships, everything else being equal. I'm sure "tight hips" and "dull feet" wouldn't be part of any "Moneyball" algorithm used to determine draft picks or talent, but the Caste system is given cover by "useful idiot" NFL "analysts" to push "fake news" narratives in order to justify their racially-discriminatory system.

Nall is a direct threat to the Caste system, so he will have to have luck on his side to make a roster. Nall reminds me a bit of former Rutgers RB Joe Martinek who was screwed over by the Caste system. I hope Nall can fare better.
 

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Great combines from the first round hopefuls on defense.

Vander Esch - pretty much a first round lock. Quick 40-time and did great in the three-cone and broad and vertical jumps.
Bryan - just about locked into the first round now too. Good 40, great vertical + three-cone + bench.
Hubbard - still could go either way, but I'm confident he'll go in the first round. Extremely good three-cone and a good vertical.
Phillips - like Hubbard, could still go either way but if I had to bet I'd say he's a first round pick as well. Good jumps and bench.

The first two players have always been praised as extremely athletic (from sources that aren't extremely caste at least), but the second two had athleticism concerns but have thrown that misconception in the trash. I'm pretty confident all four will be first round picks. As has continually been shown with white players on defense (Watt, Kuechly, Lee, Matthews, Smith, Weddle...) - you have to be elite or else you won't get the chance. I'm confident Vander Esch, Bryan, Hubbard, and Phillips are elite, but in a fair world a fair few more players would get the hype/chances they've had.
 

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Just saw a tweet from Richard Sherman stating that if Shaquem Griffin is not drafted in the first two days of the draft the system is broken. Nothing against Griffin to overcome a handicap like he has but much like the Michael Sam saga a few years ago this is going to be the "human interest" story that is going to be beat to death over the next two months. It seems stories like this always pop up to deflect any potential discussion on the racial disparity in the NFL - the sanctioned anti-white racism, the corrupt caste recruiting methods to ignore white players coming out of high school etc.

Even when they are coddled and have been caved into they still want more, more and more. I couldn't help myself - had to reply and say that I hope he feels the same way about Josey Jewell, Ryan Nall and Trey Quinn.
 

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I wonder if any of these prospects are being asked by teams and journalists whether or not they will stand for the national anthem. My guess is they are not being asked this though it's an obvious question.

Even if they were asked the media would probably not report it. Both the media and the league probably want to cover up how anti-American and anti-white some of these players really are.
 

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The DB day is the DAY OF HELL and always puts me in a sour mood.

Hoping to shoot my mouth off later today but I have had enough of this Griffin CRAP. I am all for people with disabilities having equal rights and such but I don't give a rat's ass about this guy's story. First of all I could swear they cheated on his first 40---look closely he jumped the so called gun by a good second and a half or two. Need further proof? His second run was 4.58 instead of the 4.38. Let this guy work somewhere and have a happy life. But he has a TERRIBLE build and the media is force feeding us this "good feeling story" when a simple explanation about his condition would do. Cripes you would think the media had discovered the cure for MS or something. Settle down.
 

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Some black privilege at work here. Imagine if a white player tested in the 12th percentile:

USF DT Deadrin Senat posted a composite athletic score in the 12th percentile at the 2018 NFL Combine.

Rotoworld's Josh Norris tweeted he is willing to take the leap of faith on Senat despite the poor athletic performance. Senat has been one of Norris' favorite prospects since prior to the East-West Shrine game, as he offers run stuffing skills as a 1-technique while also creating some disruption as an upfield player.
 

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The DB day is the DAY OF HELL and always puts me in a sour mood.

Hoping to shoot my mouth off later today but I have had enough of this Griffin CRAP. I am all for people with disabilities having equal rights and such but I don't give a rat's ass about this guy's story. First of all I could swear they cheated on his first 40---look closely he jumped the so called gun by a good second and a half or two. Need further proof? His second run was 4.58 instead of the 4.38. Let this guy work somewhere and have a happy life. But he has a TERRIBLE build and the media is force feeding us this "good feeling story" when a simple explanation about his condition would do. Cripes you would think the media had discovered the cure for MS or something. Settle down.

Yea the NFL has really done a great job at neglecting DBs for quite awhile. Every year it becomes more and more apparent. Their were probably 8-10 white DBs that should of received combine invites.

Cole Reyes
Dallin Leavitt
Carter Jacobs
Nick Gesualdi
Bradd Elliss
Michah Hanneman
Chase Dutra - they invited two black indiana LBs and a black indiana WR but not Dutra
Ryan Moeller
Jake Schlager
 

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The DB day is the DAY OF HELL and always puts me in a sour mood.

Hoping to shoot my mouth off later today but I have had enough of this Griffin CRAP. I am all for people with disabilities having equal rights and such but I don't give a rat's ass about this guy's story. First of all I could swear they cheated on his first 40---look closely he jumped the so called gun by a good second and a half or two. Need further proof? His second run was 4.58 instead of the 4.38. Let this guy work somewhere and have a happy life. But he has a TERRIBLE build and the media is force feeding us this "good feeling story" when a simple explanation about his condition would do. Cripes you would think the media had discovered the cure for MS or something. Settle down.
I remarked something to my brother about his visible pot belly and his tweener size to boot. I'm not saying this isn't a great story but any team that wants him for anything more than special teams needs to shake up their scouting department.
 

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I remarked something to my brother about his visible pot belly and his tweener size to boot. I'm not saying this isn't a great story but any team that wants him for anything more than special teams needs to shake up their scouting department.

In the simulcam with his brother he is noticeably behind him when they cross the finish line, it is hard to tell if his front foot crossed at the same time as his brother who looked to be ahead of him. Also during the first run it looks like their is a slight delay in starting the clock. The 4.38 and 4.58 disparity is pretty big. Not knocking the guy but I am knocking the NFL and it's manufactured human interest stories.
 

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Apke ran a 4.35!!!


Look at this display with Sanders, Mayock and Eisen all with the typical discriminatory comments. Caste system in play totally. Sanders even comes out and says it.





Apke ran a 4.39 on the second run and they are all laughing and giggling. Mayock just referred to him as a "rare species".
 
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Apke ran a 4.35!!!


Look at this display with Sanders, Mayock and Eisen all with the typical discriminatory comments. Caste system in play totally. Sanders even comes out and says it.




That was blazing fast at 215 lbs. That's the second fastest time (by .01) by a safety going back 10 years. I'm betting that Eisen and Mayock don't mention him again.

Edit: They corrected it to say he weighs 200, and now they are saying official time of 4.34. WOW!
 
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Apke ran a 4.35!!!


Look at this display with Sanders, Mayock and Eisen all with the typical discriminatory comments. Caste system in play totally. Sanders even comes out and says it.





Apke ran a 4.39 on the second run and they are all laughing and giggling. Mayock just referred to him as a "rare species".

Disgusting reaction by all three. A real man would have called Sanders out on his racism. I wouldn't expect anything from Rabbi Eisen other than the way he reacted, but the snickering Mayock is just as despicable if not more so.
 

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Don, the comments after his second run were even worse. I decided to send out a tweet about it. I am sure it won't get much traction but I did use the #nflcombine and @nflnetwork so I can only hope I was not the only one disgusted by it.
 

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That's the first sub-4.40 40 at the Combine by a White participant since Ryan Swope isn't it? Swope quickly "disappeared" after the 2013 draft after suffering a never explained "concussion" during non-contact drills. Mayock also claimed Swope suffered repeated concussions at A&M, which was quickly echoed by the hive media even though Ryan never missed a game.
 
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