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And they went for the fake because on 4th and 3 an afflete receiver dropped a perfectly thrown pass that would have made it at least first and goal, if not a TD.
2018 College Football Week 8
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Herbie blaming the LBs for Ohio St (camera pans to Werner and Borland...agenda could not be more obvious).
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Blough played well tonight too! This OSU black quarterback is another product of the system. My prediction is that when the college playoff debates start Herbie and the rest of them are going to try and excuse Ohio St for getting blown out much like they did last year when Iowa destroyed them. Hopefully Sparty and the Wolverines also crush OSU.
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Washington gave McGrew the team lead in carries today with 12 and he responded with a solid 58 yards. On defense, Ben Burr-Kirven seems like a star in the making that will hopefully get a fair shot in the NFL. BBK had 15 tackles and an interception. What a beast.
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Brock Huard made a comment on twitter about Ben Burr-Kiven being a great college player but not an NFL player. I threw three "undersized" LB/S hybrid prospects at him who are celebrated in the NFL. Burr-Kirven could easily play that nickelback/LB/DB hybrid at the next level but he will be knocked because of his size (even though he is bigger than many black NFL LBs).
I saw that. Absolutely brutal.
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For me not a horrible weekend but not especially inspiring either. Some good bits but mostly felt like a holding pattern except for the Big Ten where there was a huge upset.
I didn't bring it up but last week but LB Pete Werner tallied 10 tackles and two tackles for a loss in a Ohio State win last week. In one report the writer gave the LB's a horrible grade and then added "for what it's worth Pete Werner had 10 tackles and 2 tackles for a loss." Werner is the rare big school underclassmen LB making waves yet the porous Ohio State is "all his fault." And yes I heard Herbie pile on last night. Anyone care to wonder what happened to the Ohio State DL where the OL are able to get up field and block the LBs? Or all those athletes in their defensive backfield?
Purdue is very caste ( a white safety non withstanding) and maybe like last year with no undefeated Big Ten teams left the dreaded SEC could slip in two yet again. Or Oklahoma? Bad and worse.
Nice to see Northwestern gut out a tough road win. Nagel had a solid but not spectacular game. WR Riley Nees ripped off a speedy 26 yard catch. He will be a junior next year and hopefully becomes a starter. New emerging LB in Chris Bergin #28.
It snowed in Wisconsin. Bucky what the hell is that? It is not even Halloween yet. Ha.
Michigan and Michigan predictably played a tough defensive battle. Michigan State DE Kenny Willekes is a beast and looks like early round NFL material for 2020.
I wonder what the NFL plans to do with QBs Trace McSorley and Nick Fitzgerald who both ran for over 100 yards yesterday? Will they be invited to the Combine like they should or will they be ignored because they are probably not NFL starter types in the NFL?
Maryland has all of their caste plates in place. A bit of a fruit cup defense and a caste cutie offense that relies on big plays against all black defenses. But the buck stopped there with Iowa a team that fields more white defenders than the entire SEC. They turned Maryland into a pile of mush. Great to see. And as pointed out above The Great White Hope CB Riley Moss was spectacular. Funny thing, Iowa would be undefeated if they hadn't made several brutal mistakes against Wisconsin.
Nebraska finally won but I skipped it since the other Big Ten games were on at the same time.
Clemson won handily as their new QB Lawrence is becoming more comfortable. Tanner Muse had a sack and back up S Nolan Turner was in on a few plays. Nothing inspiring about Big 12 action but the Pac 12 had a few moments.
Utah destroyed USC who played without their defensive studs Edge Porter Gustin (out for the year) and LB Cameron Smith . Quick as a hiccup WR Britain Covey had a nice 4-79-1 which included a 40 plus TD explosion up the middle. And my nominee for defensive player of the year is Chase Hansen. I think, I can't verify it, there are three players on Utah's defense that wear # 22 with the name Hansen on the back. The guy is everywhere!
As noted RB Patrick Laird finally exploded on the ground. Also caught 3 passes for 48 yards. My NFL take. He should be invited to the Combine. I predict a 6th or 7th round pick. He fits into a Patriots like scheme. Good player. Great character.
Nice to see youngsters Max Borghi and Sean McGrew get more involved as the season wears on. As noted above I saw that Borghi juke for the TD and the LB crying on the sidelines. Borghi has some mad moves. Wonderful!!
Princeton WR Jesper Horsted had another solid game in a win with a 10-126-1 stat line. But overall not a great week for white WRs except for the two below.
I will finish with two WRs who have been pouring it on all season long. Scott Miller and Andy Isabella continue to tear it up. Will the NFL shy away from inviting them to the combine ? I can hear the excuse from here. They are too small. ( And in the shadows "they are white.") That doesn't prevent the NFL from inviting small type black "speedsters" to the Combine. I am sick of these two players being ignored on the big boards. I will be royally pissed off if they are ignored come Combine time. I am convinced both have NFL talent. Exciting players!!
I didn't bring it up but last week but LB Pete Werner tallied 10 tackles and two tackles for a loss in a Ohio State win last week. In one report the writer gave the LB's a horrible grade and then added "for what it's worth Pete Werner had 10 tackles and 2 tackles for a loss." Werner is the rare big school underclassmen LB making waves yet the porous Ohio State is "all his fault." And yes I heard Herbie pile on last night. Anyone care to wonder what happened to the Ohio State DL where the OL are able to get up field and block the LBs? Or all those athletes in their defensive backfield?
Purdue is very caste ( a white safety non withstanding) and maybe like last year with no undefeated Big Ten teams left the dreaded SEC could slip in two yet again. Or Oklahoma? Bad and worse.
Nice to see Northwestern gut out a tough road win. Nagel had a solid but not spectacular game. WR Riley Nees ripped off a speedy 26 yard catch. He will be a junior next year and hopefully becomes a starter. New emerging LB in Chris Bergin #28.
It snowed in Wisconsin. Bucky what the hell is that? It is not even Halloween yet. Ha.
Michigan and Michigan predictably played a tough defensive battle. Michigan State DE Kenny Willekes is a beast and looks like early round NFL material for 2020.
I wonder what the NFL plans to do with QBs Trace McSorley and Nick Fitzgerald who both ran for over 100 yards yesterday? Will they be invited to the Combine like they should or will they be ignored because they are probably not NFL starter types in the NFL?
Maryland has all of their caste plates in place. A bit of a fruit cup defense and a caste cutie offense that relies on big plays against all black defenses. But the buck stopped there with Iowa a team that fields more white defenders than the entire SEC. They turned Maryland into a pile of mush. Great to see. And as pointed out above The Great White Hope CB Riley Moss was spectacular. Funny thing, Iowa would be undefeated if they hadn't made several brutal mistakes against Wisconsin.
Nebraska finally won but I skipped it since the other Big Ten games were on at the same time.
Clemson won handily as their new QB Lawrence is becoming more comfortable. Tanner Muse had a sack and back up S Nolan Turner was in on a few plays. Nothing inspiring about Big 12 action but the Pac 12 had a few moments.
Utah destroyed USC who played without their defensive studs Edge Porter Gustin (out for the year) and LB Cameron Smith . Quick as a hiccup WR Britain Covey had a nice 4-79-1 which included a 40 plus TD explosion up the middle. And my nominee for defensive player of the year is Chase Hansen. I think, I can't verify it, there are three players on Utah's defense that wear # 22 with the name Hansen on the back. The guy is everywhere!
As noted RB Patrick Laird finally exploded on the ground. Also caught 3 passes for 48 yards. My NFL take. He should be invited to the Combine. I predict a 6th or 7th round pick. He fits into a Patriots like scheme. Good player. Great character.
Nice to see youngsters Max Borghi and Sean McGrew get more involved as the season wears on. As noted above I saw that Borghi juke for the TD and the LB crying on the sidelines. Borghi has some mad moves. Wonderful!!
Princeton WR Jesper Horsted had another solid game in a win with a 10-126-1 stat line. But overall not a great week for white WRs except for the two below.
I will finish with two WRs who have been pouring it on all season long. Scott Miller and Andy Isabella continue to tear it up. Will the NFL shy away from inviting them to the combine ? I can hear the excuse from here. They are too small. ( And in the shadows "they are white.") That doesn't prevent the NFL from inviting small type black "speedsters" to the Combine. I am sick of these two players being ignored on the big boards. I will be royally pissed off if they are ignored come Combine time. I am convinced both have NFL talent. Exciting players!!
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I believe Andy Isabella was the 1st player to reach 1000 receiving yards this season, he’s 1 yard behind Hawaii’s John Ursua who has 1013.
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Nice breakdown SL and you called it, craziness was in the air! Awesome to see Ohio St lose. Let's hope they're not done losing. It's too bad their pale faced LBs are being labeled the scapegoats! As far as Wisconsin weather. It's all downhill from here until April LOL.
Nice rundown! Y'all (South); You guys (North)
Had been hoping transfer QB Joe Burrow ((LSU No way they're 7-1 w/o him)) could face his old team w Urban Cryer /Ohio State....Stats don't tell entire story; will be in NFL Draft 2020'
.....Good to see Laird back in Full effect! Talented All-purpose Back; the other QB hindered those stats greatly...too many Dual-threat QB's are glorified RB's. Not always going to work.
Recruiting Services have put too much stock into Pro-Style vs Dual Threat. Your either a QB or your not!
Nick Fitzgerald .. 131 yards rushing on 23 carries (rough night passing in rain)..will be interesting to see which NFL position he lands
Trace McSorley... 107 yards rushing on 19 carries & 2 TD's + 220 yards Rushing...like him in the NFL..Has "It" Factor
Nathan Rourke... 101 yards rushing on 10 carries & TD + 193 yards passing & 4 TD's
Alan Bowman...408 yards passing & 3 TD's
David Blough 378 yards passing & 3 TD's vs. Ohio St.
Stephen Calvert(Liberty)....362 yards passing & 2 TD's
Drew Lock...350 yards passing & 4 TD's
Gus Ragland(Miami OH)...329 yards passing & 4 TD's + 56 yards rushing
Blake LaRussa (ODU) 327 yds passing & TD
Andrew Ford (U.Mass)..326 yards passing
Gardiner Minshew ...323 yds passing & 4 TD's
Nathan Elliott (UNC) ...321 yds passing & 2 TD's
Brett Rypien ...308 yds passing & 4 TD's
Trevor Lawrence...308 yards passing & TD
Patrick Laird...193 yards on 22 carries & 2 TD's + 3 rec for 48 yards & TD
AJ Ouellette...81 yards on 14 carries
Cole Fagan...77 yards rushing on 9 carries & TD from 49 yds! / Kade Remsberg 43 yds rushing on 9 carries
Sean McGrew...58 yards rushing on 12 carries
Cade Carney...43 yards on 10 carries
Max Borghi...40 yards on 10 carries + 7 rec for 51 yards & TD; Nice juke on defender!
Andy Davidson...39 yards rushing on 7 carries & TD
Josh Hokit...35 yards rushing on 12 carries
Garrett Groshek ...33 yards rushing on 4 carries / Alec Ingold..3 carries for 12 yds & TD + 2 rec for 48 yds & TD
Mike Epstein...14 yards on 2 carries.... (is he fully healed from last years injury? decreased workload)
Ben Glines (BYE WEEK)
Andy Isabella...174 yards receiving on 10 catches
Scott Miller...145 yards receiving on 6 receptions & TD (from 57)
Kaleb Fossum ...86 yards on 6 receptions / McLane Mannix 4 - 53
Britian Covey ...79 yds on 4 rec & TD + 1 carry for 10 yards & nice 38 yd Kickoff Return
Trent Irwin ...79 yards on 7 rec
Jack Sorenson ...5 - 75
Flynn Nagel..... 8 - 71
*FCS
James Johannsen(No.Dakota) ...213 yards on 11 carries & 2 TD's (6'-1" 250lbs)
Drew Lauer (Drake) ....136 yards rushing on 28 carries & 2 TD's
Marcus Weymiller(No.Iowa)...108 yards rushing on 20 carries
Charlie Volker (Princeton)...94 yards rushing/ 18 carries & 2 TD's
Domanick Bragalone(Lehigh) ...90 yards rushing / 28 carries
Max Norris (W.Illinois) 87 yards on 16 carries
Sam McPherson (EWU) ...BYE Week
Zane Dudek (Yale) ...Injured
Austin Ewing (So.Utah) ...201 yards rushing on 19 carries & 2 TD's + 37 yds passing
Matt DeSomer (So Ill)...135 yds rushing & TD + 165 yds passing & TD
Ryan Boyle (Indiana St) ...104 yds rushing + 101 passing
Troy Andersen (Montana St) ...102 yds rushing & TD
Austin Day (Marist) 440 yards passing & 5 TD's + TD Rushing
Reece Udinski (VMI) ...437 yds passing & 5 TD's
Tanner Gueller (Idaho St) ...397 yards passing & 4 TD's
Lawson Page (Moorhead St) ...352 yds passing & 2 TD's + 68 yds rushing & 2 TD's
Sean McGuire (W Ill.)...305 yds passing & 3 TD's
Tom Kennedy (Bryant)...13 receptions for 221 yards
Michael Dean (Idaho St) 6 receptions for 210 yards & TD/Mitch Guellar ...9 - 125 & 2 TD's
Steve Farrell (Penn) 7 receptions for 173 yards & TD
Jesper Horsted (Princeton) ...10-126- TD
Jakob Herres (VMI) 6 - 117 - TD
Pace Temple (Butler ) 7 - 105 - TD & Stephen Dennis 6 - 101 - TD
DII
Chad Hovasse (Adams St) ...11 receptions for 158 yards & 2 TD's
May have missed a few ; please Feel free to Add to list
Had been hoping transfer QB Joe Burrow ((LSU No way they're 7-1 w/o him)) could face his old team w Urban Cryer /Ohio State....Stats don't tell entire story; will be in NFL Draft 2020'
.....Good to see Laird back in Full effect! Talented All-purpose Back; the other QB hindered those stats greatly...too many Dual-threat QB's are glorified RB's. Not always going to work.
Recruiting Services have put too much stock into Pro-Style vs Dual Threat. Your either a QB or your not!
Nick Fitzgerald .. 131 yards rushing on 23 carries (rough night passing in rain)..will be interesting to see which NFL position he lands
Trace McSorley... 107 yards rushing on 19 carries & 2 TD's + 220 yards Rushing...like him in the NFL..Has "It" Factor
Nathan Rourke... 101 yards rushing on 10 carries & TD + 193 yards passing & 4 TD's
Alan Bowman...408 yards passing & 3 TD's
David Blough 378 yards passing & 3 TD's vs. Ohio St.
Stephen Calvert(Liberty)....362 yards passing & 2 TD's
Drew Lock...350 yards passing & 4 TD's
Gus Ragland(Miami OH)...329 yards passing & 4 TD's + 56 yards rushing
Blake LaRussa (ODU) 327 yds passing & TD
Andrew Ford (U.Mass)..326 yards passing
Gardiner Minshew ...323 yds passing & 4 TD's
Nathan Elliott (UNC) ...321 yds passing & 2 TD's
Brett Rypien ...308 yds passing & 4 TD's
Trevor Lawrence...308 yards passing & TD
Patrick Laird...193 yards on 22 carries & 2 TD's + 3 rec for 48 yards & TD
AJ Ouellette...81 yards on 14 carries
Cole Fagan...77 yards rushing on 9 carries & TD from 49 yds! / Kade Remsberg 43 yds rushing on 9 carries
Sean McGrew...58 yards rushing on 12 carries
Cade Carney...43 yards on 10 carries
Max Borghi...40 yards on 10 carries + 7 rec for 51 yards & TD; Nice juke on defender!
Andy Davidson...39 yards rushing on 7 carries & TD
Josh Hokit...35 yards rushing on 12 carries
Garrett Groshek ...33 yards rushing on 4 carries / Alec Ingold..3 carries for 12 yds & TD + 2 rec for 48 yds & TD
Mike Epstein...14 yards on 2 carries.... (is he fully healed from last years injury? decreased workload)
Ben Glines (BYE WEEK)
Andy Isabella...174 yards receiving on 10 catches
Scott Miller...145 yards receiving on 6 receptions & TD (from 57)
Kaleb Fossum ...86 yards on 6 receptions / McLane Mannix 4 - 53
Britian Covey ...79 yds on 4 rec & TD + 1 carry for 10 yards & nice 38 yd Kickoff Return
Trent Irwin ...79 yards on 7 rec
Jack Sorenson ...5 - 75
Flynn Nagel..... 8 - 71
*FCS
James Johannsen(No.Dakota) ...213 yards on 11 carries & 2 TD's (6'-1" 250lbs)
Drew Lauer (Drake) ....136 yards rushing on 28 carries & 2 TD's
Marcus Weymiller(No.Iowa)...108 yards rushing on 20 carries
Charlie Volker (Princeton)...94 yards rushing/ 18 carries & 2 TD's
Domanick Bragalone(Lehigh) ...90 yards rushing / 28 carries
Max Norris (W.Illinois) 87 yards on 16 carries
Sam McPherson (EWU) ...BYE Week
Zane Dudek (Yale) ...Injured
Austin Ewing (So.Utah) ...201 yards rushing on 19 carries & 2 TD's + 37 yds passing
Matt DeSomer (So Ill)...135 yds rushing & TD + 165 yds passing & TD
Ryan Boyle (Indiana St) ...104 yds rushing + 101 passing
Troy Andersen (Montana St) ...102 yds rushing & TD
Austin Day (Marist) 440 yards passing & 5 TD's + TD Rushing
Reece Udinski (VMI) ...437 yds passing & 5 TD's
Tanner Gueller (Idaho St) ...397 yards passing & 4 TD's
Lawson Page (Moorhead St) ...352 yds passing & 2 TD's + 68 yds rushing & 2 TD's
Sean McGuire (W Ill.)...305 yds passing & 3 TD's
Tom Kennedy (Bryant)...13 receptions for 221 yards
Michael Dean (Idaho St) 6 receptions for 210 yards & TD/Mitch Guellar ...9 - 125 & 2 TD's
Steve Farrell (Penn) 7 receptions for 173 yards & TD
Jesper Horsted (Princeton) ...10-126- TD
Jakob Herres (VMI) 6 - 117 - TD
Pace Temple (Butler ) 7 - 105 - TD & Stephen Dennis 6 - 101 - TD
DII
Chad Hovasse (Adams St) ...11 receptions for 158 yards & 2 TD's
May have missed a few ; please Feel free to Add to list
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One nice byproduct of OSU loss is that of the top teams ranked 1-7, 6 have white QB's, and Bama has its poly qb.
