2017 NFL Week 8

[Bruce]

Deshaun Watson finished with 400 yards passing and 4 touchdowns. He's thrown 18 td passes in the last 5 games alone. This all seems way too fishy to me. It reminds me of Cam Newton's magical half season in 2015 where he had multiple 5 td games. Newton went back to being the awful quarterback he's always been after that stretch. You can come up with any explanation you want for that aberration but we do know the league is highly corrupt. Watson can't possibly be that good. He ran a 4.7 40 so he's not that athletic. He only scored a 20 on the new Wonderlic(crab legs scored a 27) so he's not very sharp mentally . There were questions about him even being a first rounder before the draft.

I can't really wrap my mind around this. The season is at the halfway point and he's already cemented himself as the Texans' franchise quarterback for a very long time to come. All it takes is one good season or even less than that for the DWF to fall in love with a black quarterback. And once they do it's very hard to remove him. Again look at sCam and how awful he's been. Yet the DWF will look at you like you have two heads if you propose the idea of replacing him with another quarterback.

 

[white is right]

Nothing really racial here but Buffalo finally has a coach that isn't pandering to the "star" players and the team is winning. As a quasi DWF of Buffalo it's nice to see the potential New Orleans Aints type streak end but of course we still have nine long weeks to go......

 

[La France Blanche]

Not saying the black defender who hit Hogan should be suspended, just pointing out that Sendejo was unfairly suspended for a similar hit.

 

[La France Blanche]

The Texans kneeling for the anthem because of what their owner said are making no sense. What does the national anthem have to do with Bob McNair? It just goes to show that the blacks and liberals want any excuse to protest. Being called a naughty word is the best thing that can happen to a liberal. It does them absolutely no harm, but they get to play the victim and get a huge outpouring of sympathy from cucks.

Looks like Brian Peters #52 was the only one standing for the anthem on the Texans, though of course there may have been others standing out of the picture. Ben Heeney #50 was kneeling wif da bruthas; maybe he thinks if he acts black, he'll get playing time like a black (fat chance).

Today's Seattle-Houston game was a creepy fantasy of what the SJWs want every NFL game to be like. Two starting black quarterbacks, coal-black defenses, Whites basically restricted to special teams and the offensive line, glory strictly for black players only, a host city that takes pride in its intolerance of non-liberal views, a visiting team with an axe to grind against an old White man for no reason, whitey paying to worship blackie, and of course lots of anthem-kneeling. Oh, and the game was also "exciting," meaning that it was a high-scoring shootout, meaning that two supposedly great coal-black defenses didn't do their jobs.

 

[Riggins44]

The Texans kneeling for the anthem because of what their owner said are making no sense. What does the national anthem have to do with Bob McNair? It just goes to show that the blacks and liberals want any excuse to protest. Being called a naughty word is the best thing that can happen to a liberal. It does them absolutely no harm, but they get to play the victim and get a huge outpouring of sympathy from cucks.

Looks like Brian Peters #52 was the only one standing for the anthem on the Texans, though of course there may have been others standing out of the picture. Ben Heeney #50 was kneeling wif da bruthas; maybe he thinks if he acts black, he'll get playing time like a black (fat chance).

Today's Seattle-Houston game was a creepy fantasy of what the SJWs want every NFL game to be like. Two starting black quarterbacks, coal-black defenses, Whites basically restricted to special teams and the offensive line, glory strictly for black players only, a host city that takes pride in its intolerance of non-liberal views, a visiting team with an axe to grind against an old White man for no reason, whitey paying to worship blackie, and of course lots of anthem-kneeling. Oh, and the game was also "exciting," meaning that it was a high-scoring shooting, meaning that two supposedly great coal-black defenses didn't do their jobs.

Very astute observations.

 

[La France Blanche]

Deshaun Watson finished with 400 yards passing and 4 touchdowns. He's thrown 18 td passes in the last 5 games alone. This all seems way too fishy to me. It reminds me of Cam Newton's magical half season in 2015 where he had multiple 5 td games. Newton went back to being the awful quarterback he's always been after that stretch. You can come up with any explanation you want for that aberration but we do know the league is highly corrupt. Watson can't possibly be that good. He ran a 4.7 40 so he's not that athletic. He only scored a 20 on the new Wonderlic(crab legs scored a 27) so he's not very sharp mentally . There were questions about him even being a first rounder before the draft.

I can't really wrap my mind around this. The season is at the halfway point and he's already cemented himself as the Texans' franchise quarterback for a very long time to come. All it takes is one good season or even less than that for the DWF to fall in love with a black quarterback. And once they do it's very hard to remove him. Again look at sCam and how awful he's been. Yet the DWF will look at you like you have two heads if you propose the idea of replacing him with another quarterback.

Watson did throw three interceptions today, and stats like that get buried by the (((media))). Part of Watson's "exciting" streak is that defenses haven't figured him out yet, and when they do he'll come crashing down to earth just like Robert Griffin, Vince Young, Michael Vick, Byron Leftwing, and sCam Newton. The rest is just a statistical anomaly, which happens. If the Texans DWFs think they got themselves the dark Tom Brady, they're in for a surprise in a couple of years, or sooner.

 

[MrPoon]

I'll tell ya, with the NFL so depressing these days, it is sooooo refreshing to watch the World Series games! So many young white American athletes out there..short stops, center fielders, great to see. Hard not to root for the Dodgers.

 

[Shadowlight]

The Texans kneeling for the anthem because of what their owner said are making no sense. What does the national anthem have to do with Bob McNair? It just goes to show that the blacks and liberals want any excuse to protest. Being called a naughty word is the best thing that can happen to a liberal. It does them absolutely no harm, but they get to play the victim and get a huge outpouring of sympathy from cucks.

Looks like Brian Peters #52 was the only one standing for the anthem on the Texans, though of course there may have been others standing out of the picture. Ben Heeney #50 was kneeling wif da bruthas; maybe he thinks if he acts black, he'll get playing time like a black (fat chance).

Today's Seattle-Houston game was a creepy fantasy of what the SJWs want every NFL game to be like. Two starting black quarterbacks, coal-black defenses, Whites basically restricted to special teams and the offensive line, glory strictly for black players only, a host city that takes pride in its intolerance of non-liberal views, a visiting team with an axe to grind against an old White man for no reason, whitey paying to worship blackie, and of course lots of anthem-kneeling. Oh, and the game was also "exciting," meaning that it was a high-scoring shootout, meaning that two supposedly great coal-black defenses didn't do their jobs.

This game equaled DEATH. Great observations La France as it had all of the "CREEPY" ultra caste elements supercharged and in place as 4 black WR's put up big fat numbers and a fifth ended up with reasonable stats. The two black QB's both threw for over 400 yards and gained a bunch of yards running as well. This is the type of game that has kept white athletes OFF THE PLAYING FIELDS for years from mixed raced High Schools and Division 1 College Football. And even though the defenses played matador style, Richard Sherman a CB (the black power position of all time) came up with juicy stats as well. And off the top of my head I am guessing DE Clowney got a stat stuffing sack or two so the "key" black defensive individuals will leave the game unharmed. Black defenses are rarely held in contempt for allowing black WR's to run wild. If mainly white defenses get scorched in games like these the media pounces on "they are not athletic or fast enough" mantra. Yet it happens all the time in college as black WR's put up huge numbers against all black defenses. But the impulse has never been to replace useless black defensive players with white players. It is only when white WR's run wild like in the playoff game like last season between the Steelers and Pats where everybody gets up in arms about a "matador like" defense.
Add to this toxic brew of a game are two teams pushing the black power buttons. Seattle is HQ now that Bennett has taken over the reigns for pushing their agenda and Houston with a freshly minted bug up their ass regarding their innocent owner, you have two teams at the forefront of the black power movement.
So we have to ask ourselves was this game legitimate? To be honest I can't answer that question but doubts should be raised. These type of games ensure that white participation at key positions will not come to fruition. Given all the circumstances surrounding these two teams and the "slight" increase in white skill position players in the NFL of late, albeit that once promising notion is slowly coming to a crashing halt this season, is it unreasonable to think that perhaps something was going on in this game that wasn't right? Again I don't know but hell I sure do SMELL A RAT here.

 

[Shadowlight]

We need more bad news like a cliff jump but as I type this Doctors are working to save TE Zach Miller's leg. Terrible. Today WR Chris Hogan is having an MRI to determine the extent of his shoulder injury. Hogan was just beginning to pick up the pace with more downfield type catches. WR Cole Beasley suffered a concussion amidst a rumor that he might get traded by Tuesday. That has been refuted but Beasley who got off to a promising start early last season has seen his production steadily then completely disappear. The Prescott to Beasley connection that was a staple of their offense last year during the first half has been severed and is yet another kick square in the mouth for fans like us. Beasley was poised to become an essential NFL slot receiver. His back up Ryan Switzer saw some snaps yesterday but there is no indication at this point that he will fill the void. At least LB Sean Lee was back for the second consecutive week and they won again. That team without Lee is lost in the woods.

 

[Don Wassall]

The weekly Sunday threads cheering on White NFL players used to be something I enjoyed reading and participating in for many years. Now, I'd rather watch the NFL than read these depressing threads.

Two black QBs participate in a high scoring game? The explanation can only be that the game was rigged.

A White player is injured? It can only be because the league's black players are deliberately injuring them. A large number of black players are regularly injured but that's somehow irrelevant.

Christian McCaffrey isn't tearing it up as a rusher right from the get-go? It can only be because the Carolina Panthers were anointed to draft him and are engaging in a carefully laid out plan to deliberately destroy his career. Never mind that Jonathan Stewart is doing even worse as a rusher and McCaffrey is well on the way to setting records in the receiving department.

And then there's the off-and-on long-running fantasy that all the league's White quarterbacks lurk here and are secret supporters of CF and knowledgeable about and opposed to the Caste System but are merely too cowardly to speak out, while others have ordered their front office to never hire White receivers.

Now let's take a brief look at some of the things the league's all-powerful leaders forgot to "fix" yesterday:

* Black Jack's Black Panthers lost yet again, falling to 3-5.
* Minnesota and New England, the two relatively Whitest teams in the league, both won and remain atop their respective divisions.
* Kizer, Newton, Winston, Taylor and Brisset all put up stinkers. Dak Prescott threw for 141 yards. Teams with a black starting QB are currently 26-33.
* Jack Doyle nearly single-handedly led the Colts to a win over the Bengals, catching 12 passes for a career best 121 yards and a touchdown.
* Zach Ertz scored again; he's now just behind Gronk and Kelce as the clear-cut third best tight end in the league, a position Whites are dominating in an unprecedented fashion since the league was integrated
* A lot of White defenders had their usual strong games, led by Joe Schobert. I don't have time to dig into each box score but I know from fantasy football results that the usual White suspects played at their usual high level. Joey Bosa set a record for the most sacks in his first 20 games.
* Rex Burkhead led the Patriots in number of receptions and was second in receiving yards. Chris Hogan was having a strong game until being injured by a hard but clean hit
* Matt Stafford passed for over 400 yards in a losing effort. Many White QBs had their usual solid games and continue to dominate the position, though one would never know it reading the weekly threads.
* Thrashen posted recently that this could be a record breaking season for White receivers and tight ends reaching 1,000 yards.

The NFL is better to watch now than it's been in a long time. Sure it still sucks big time overall because of the Caste System and a lot of other things, but complaining about it isn't going to make it go away. Activism might, but I know better than to expect that to happen other than from a very few. The NFL was well ahead of its time in replacing Whites; the overall agenda of White replacement in the U.S. and Europe has greatly accelerated in the past decade, which is proof positive that the NFL isn't about to buck the trend it's been in the vanguard in implementing for the past 35 years. There is certainly a lot of inequities to comment on, but we're also here to cheer on the White athletes who manage to excel in spite of the obstacles placed in their way. It would be nice to see that balance restored.

 

[white lightning]

The weekly Sunday threads cheering on White NFL players used to be something I enjoyed reading and participating in for many years. Now, I'd rather watch the NFL than read these depressing threads.

Two black QBs participate in a high scoring game? The explanation can only be that the game was rigged.

A White player is injured? It can only be because the league's black players are deliberately injuring them. A large number of black players are regularly injured but that's somehow irrelevant.

Christian McCaffrey isn't tearing it up as a rusher right from the get-go? It can only be because the Carolina Panthers were anointed to draft him and are engaging in a carefully laid out plan to deliberately destroy his career. Never mind that Jonathan Stewart is doing even worse as a rusher and McCaffrey is well on the way to setting records in the receiving department.

And then there's the off-and-on long-running fantasy that all the league's White quarterbacks lurk here and are secret supporters of CF and knowledgeable about and opposed to the Caste System but are merely too cowardly to speak out, while others have ordered their front office to never hire White receivers.

Now let's take a brief look at some of the things the league's all-powerful leaders forgot to "fix" yesterday:

* Black Jack's Black Panthers lost yet again, falling to 3-5.
* Minnesota and New England, the two relatively Whitest teams in the league, both won and remain atop their respective divisions.
* Kizer, Newton, Winston, Taylor and Brisset all put up stinkers. Dak Prescott threw for 141 yards. Teams with a black starting QB are currently 26-33.
* Jack Doyle nearly single-handedly led the Colts to a win over the Bengals, catching 12 passes for a career best 121 yards and a touchdown.
* Zach Ertz scored again; he's now just behind Gronk and Kelce as the clear-cut third best tight end in the league, a position Whites are dominating in an unprecedented fashion since the league was integrated
* A lot of White defenders had their usual strong games, led by Joe Schobert. I don't have time to dig into each box score but I know from fantasy football results that the usual White suspects played at their usual high level. Joey Bosa set a record for the most sacks in his first 20 games.
* Rex Burkhead led the Patriots in number of receptions and was second in receiving yards. Chris Hogan was having a strong game until being injured by a hard but clean hit
* Matt Stafford passed for over 400 yards in a losing effort. Many White QBs had their usual solid games and continue to dominate the position, though one would never know it reading the weekly threads.
* Thrashen posted recently that this could be a record breaking season for White receivers and tight ends reaching 1,000 yards.

The NFL is better to watch now than it's been in a long time. Sure it still sucks big time overall because of the Caste System and a lot of other things, but complaining about it isn't going to make it go away. Activism might, but I know better than to expect that to happen other than from a very few. The NFL was well ahead of its time in replacing Whites; the overall agenda of White replacement in the U.S. and Europe has greatly accelerated in the past decade, which is proof positive that the NFL isn't about to buck the trend it's been in the vanguard in implementing for the past 35 years. There is certainly a lot of inequities to comment on, but we're also here to cheer on the White athletes who manage to excel in spite of the obstacles placed in their way. It would be nice to see that balance restored.

Post of the day by the legend Don Wassall. Excellent points made all through out this.

Let me add another positive thing about a few of the athletes we love. Adam Thielen is 2nd in the NFL
in Receiving Yards. Yes you heard me right! He is number 2 in the whole NFL and he finally got his
first touchdown yesterday. I love that since the game was in England and he did a famous soccer slide to show respect to the other football that is so popular in Europe.

Also Tom Brady is leading the nfl in passing yards. Carson Wentz in 2nd!

So like Don said let's start being more positive guys. Just like with out country. MAGA!!

 

[TheSingularity]

The weekly Sunday threads cheering on White NFL players used to be something I enjoyed reading and participating in for many years. Now, I'd rather watch the NFL than read these depressing threads.

Two black QBs participate in a high scoring game? The explanation can only be that the game was rigged.

A White player is injured? It can only be because the league's black players are deliberately injuring them. A large number of black players are regularly injured but that's somehow irrelevant.

Christian McCaffrey isn't tearing it up as a rusher right from the get-go? It can only be because the Carolina Panthers were anointed to draft him and are engaging in a carefully laid out plan to deliberately destroy his career. Never mind that Jonathan Stewart is doing even worse as a rusher and McCaffrey is well on the way to setting records in the receiving department.

And then there's the off-and-on long-running fantasy that all the league's White quarterbacks lurk here and are secret supporters of CF and knowledgeable about and opposed to the Caste System but are merely too cowardly to speak out, while others have ordered their front office to never hire White receivers.

Now let's take a brief look at some of the things the league's all-powerful leaders forgot to "fix" yesterday:

* Black Jack's Black Panthers lost yet again, falling to 3-5.
* Minnesota and New England, the two relatively Whitest teams in the league, both won and remain atop their respective divisions.
* Kizer, Newton, Winston, Taylor and Brisset all put up stinkers. Dak Prescott threw for 141 yards. Teams with a black starting QB are currently 26-33.
* Jack Doyle nearly single-handedly led the Colts to a win over the Bengals, catching 12 passes for a career best 121 yards and a touchdown.
* Zach Ertz scored again; he's now just behind Gronk and Kelce as the clear-cut third best tight end in the league, a position Whites are dominating in an unprecedented fashion since the league was integrated
* A lot of White defenders had their usual strong games, led by Joe Schobert. I don't have time to dig into each box score but I know from fantasy football results that the usual White suspects played at their usual high level. Joey Bosa set a record for the most sacks in his first 20 games.
* Rex Burkhead led the Patriots in number of receptions and was second in receiving yards. Chris Hogan was having a strong game until being injured by a hard but clean hit
* Matt Stafford passed for over 400 yards in a losing effort. Many White QBs had their usual solid games and continue to dominate the position, though one would never know it reading the weekly threads.
* Thrashen posted recently that this could be a record breaking season for White receivers and tight ends reaching 1,000 yards.

The NFL is better to watch now than it's been in a long time. Sure it still sucks big time overall because of the Caste System and a lot of other things, but complaining about it isn't going to make it go away. Activism might, but I know better than to expect that to happen other than from a very few. The NFL was well ahead of its time in replacing Whites; the overall agenda of White replacement in the U.S. and Europe has greatly accelerated in the past decade, which is proof positive that the NFL isn't about to buck the trend it's been in the vanguard in implementing for the past 35 years. There is certainly a lot of inequities to comment on, but we're also here to cheer on the White athletes who manage to excel in spite of the obstacles placed in their way. It would be nice to see that balance restored.

100% spot on.

 

[Bruce]

Watson did throw three interceptions today, and stats like that get buried by the (((media))). Part of Watson's "exciting" streak is that defenses haven't figured him out yet, and when they do he'll come crashing down to earth just like Robert Griffin, Vince Young, Michael Vick, Byron Leftwing, and sCam Newton. The rest is just a statistical anomaly, which happens. If the Texans DWFs think they got themselves the dark Tom Brady, they're in for a surprise in a couple of years, or sooner.

Yeah he threw those interceptions but overall his production has been off the charts. He's currently leading the league in touchdown passes. . He's on pace to throw 43 td's for the season. That's phenomenal for any player, let alone a rookie, let alone a rookie black quarterback with 4.7 speed and a low Wonderlic score. I don't think it's the same as the 2012 season when Griffin, Kaepernick, and Wilson exploded on to the scene with the read option. They all had success and then defenses eventually figured them out. But all three of them were more athletic than Watson, the read option was pretty new at the time, and none of them came close to putting up the stats that Watson has. If by the end of the season he's still leading the league in td passes and the Texans are in the playoff hunt then he's a shoo-in for MVP. I just don't see what there is to "figure out" about Watson either. What's he capable of doing that other quarterbacks can't?

I don't think there's anything special about him. If there were it would have been evident already. Go back to week 1, Tom Savage is benched after one half even though he played decently. That's pretty strange given how he won the job over the summer and that this would be his first season as a full time starter.Watson comes in and plays like ****. He plays like **** the next game too. The first two games the Texans only put up 7 and 13 points. Then following week 2 the Texans score 33,57,34,33,and 38 points. The Texans ranked 28th last season in points scored. Now they're ranked number 1. What is the explanation for this? How does Watson seemingly turn into a superstar overnight? Yeah sure black defenses are atrocious but why aren't non HOF white quarterbacks tearing them up too? The opposite is more common. We see emerging White quarterbacks put up awful stat lines against black defenses all the time.

The only reasonable explanation is that yes the league is rigged. Now before anyone draws up their straw man arguments let me elaborate on how I think it's rigged. First off the players are absolutely NOT in on it. The only people who would be in on it are a few people in the league office and some of the coaching staff. Not every game is rigged, I'd say a maximum of one game, if that, per week is rigged. The outcome and score of the game is not predetermined either. The only thing they're doing to rig the games is changing up their defensive schemes to purposely allow the opposing team's quarterback to have a good game. Why is that so hard to imagine? They're not doing it for gambling. It's not like they have a chance of being caught. The way that games are broadcast we can't even see the secondary. The blacks are too dumb to notice. The only thing you need to count on is a few Whities making 7 figure salaries from the league keeping their mouths shut. It's not like anyone would believe them if they said anything either.

People, including those who're racially aware, already think we're crazy for believing that there's a caste system in sports where White athletes are discriminated against. That's considered a conspiracy theory. What's the harm in a little more? Are we afraid of looking "too crazy" for the DWFs?

 

[Don Wassall]

People, including those who're racially aware, already think we're crazy for believing that there's a caste system in sports where White athletes are discriminated against. That's considered a conspiracy theory. What's the harm in a little more? Are we afraid of looking "too crazy" for the DWFs?

There's no comparison. First of all the Caste System is not a conspiracy theory. We have given thousands and thousands of examples on this site of how it works, including statements from coaches to the effect that they won't recruit Whites to play running back. We document it with endless examples of how White athletes with similar or better measureables than black ones are ignored, not recruited, waived, etc. We give endless examples of how the media negatively stereotypes White athletes -- and you want 15 years of discussing and documenting the Caste System to be given equal credence to your latest fantasy that one and only game per week is fixed, all because you don't believe Deshaun Watson is very good.

Why Deshaun Watson? Why isn't Kizer chosen to excel every other week? That would benefit not only him but his black head coach and his 1-21 record. Why are so many black QBs failing? You've postulated something without the slightest bit of credible evidence to back it up, and even fine-tuned it, and we're supposed to accept it on equal terms with the Caste System itself?

We had a poster here for a number of years who was a really good poster, except he had a couple of obsessions, one being the idea that every NFL game was fixed. When I would query him on why certain White players or relatively White teams did well, or why some black QBs and coal black teams failed, he could never answer. He would only bring it up when a black player had a great game or a White player was screwed over, and of course there was never the slightest bit of evidence to back it up other than he didn't like a particular outcome.

We've posted at times about the possibility that various NFL games have been tweaked or even thrown. There have been a few articles and books written about it over the years. But no one has ever shown a valid racial pattern to the suspicious games. And neither have you.

Sorry, but your theory that one game per week is selected and rigged to benefit a black quarterback lacks merit. This site deals with real trends and data, not one poster's fantasy. Russell Wilson is a very successful quarterback. So is Dak Prescott so far. Watson may or may not turn out to be another one. But if Watson's success isn't fleeting, it means that the hard-core push to recruit and promote black QBs over the past 20+ years has resulted in another good one. Three good black QBs out of 32 available starting jobs certainly doesn't bother me. What bothers me is the lack of fairness received by White athletes. If White running backs were fairly recruited by the big programs out of high school and given fair opportunities, there would be fair number of White starting running backs in the NFL right now. Same with White cornerbacks and every other position. That's the reality of the Caste System. That's what we discuss here. We don't go into the realm of "too crazy," not just because of what DWFs might think, but because it's an insult to all the serious posters here who have given of their time over the years to discuss the very real issue of the Caste System.

 

[Bruce]

There's no comparison. First of all the Caste System is not a conspiracy theory. We have given thousands and thousands of examples on this site of how it works, including statements from coaches to the effect that they won't recruit Whites to play running back. We document it with endless examples of how White athletes with similar or better measureables than black ones are ignored, not recruited, waived, etc. We give endless examples of how the media negatively stereotypes White athletes -- and you want 15 years of discussing and documenting the Caste System to be given equal credence to your latest fantasy that one and only game per week is fixed, all because you don't believe Deshaun Watson is very good.

Why Deshaun Watson? Why isn't Kizer chosen to excel every other week? That would benefit not only him but his black head coach and his 1-21 record. Why are so many black QBs failing? You've postulated something without the slightest bit of credible evidence to back it up, and even fine-tuned it, and we're supposed to accept it on equal terms with the Caste System itself?

We had a poster here for a number of years who was a really good poster, except he had a couple of obsessions, one being the idea that every NFL game was fixed. When I would query him on why certain White players or relatively White teams did well, or why some black QBs and coal black teams failed, he could never answer. He would only bring it up when a black player had a great game or a White player was screwed over, and of course there was never the slightest bit of evidence to back it up other than he didn't like a particular outcome.

We've posted at times about the possibility that various NFL games have been tweaked or even thrown. There have been a few articles and books written about it over the years. But no one has ever shown a valid racial pattern to the suspicious games. And neither have you.

Sorry, but your theory that one game per week is selected and rigged to benefit a black quarterback lacks merit. This site deals with real trends and data, not one poster's fantasy. Russell Wilson is a very successful quarterback. So is Dak Prescott so far. Watson may or may not turn out to be another one. But if Watson's success isn't fleeting, it means that the hard-core push to recruit and promote black QBs over the past 20+ years has resulted in another good one. Three good black QBs out of 32 available starting jobs certainly doesn't bother me. What bothers me is the lack of fairness received by White athletes. If White running backs were fairly recruited by the big programs out of high school and given fair opportunities, there would be fair number of White starting running backs in the NFL right now. Same with White cornerbacks and every other position. That's the reality of the Caste System. That's what we discuss here. We don't go into the realm of "too crazy," not just because of what DWFs might think, but because it's an insult to all the serious posters here who have given of their time over the years to discuss the very real issue of the Caste System.

I think I did provide some evidence in my post. It may be circumstantial but it's not like I can secretly record conversations between Bill O'Brian, the league office, and his coaching staff. What if someone gained access to the all-22 footage of Waston's games and compared the opposing teams' defense schemes to how they lined up against other quarterbacks, would you consider that enough evidence? Do you need those secretly recorded conversations and some leaked memos from the NFL office? Is there anything I could do to convince you?

Why Watson and not Kizer? I'll answer that but first let me answer why they would prop up Watson in the first place. It's because they keep throwing the kitchen sink and barely anything is sticking. If there aren't enough positive examples of black quarterbacks in the league then they can't keep flooding the league with them and trying to replace white quarterbacks. And obviously the displacement of the White qb is of the utmost importance to them. All they really need are one or two examples of shiny new black quarterback success stories every season for them to keep up their experiment. Otherwise it's possible that the DWF might start to notice things.

There at least a few reasons for choosing Watson over Kizer. You can put lipstick on a pig but it's still a pig. Kizer is so bad that trying to prop him up wouldn't even be worth it. He wasn't even good in college. At least Watson was. The Browns have been a horrible team for the last 10 years. The Texas have been a fairly good team for the last decade. The Browns are coached by a black dummy with lots of dummies on his staff. The Texans are coached by an intelligent White man. Now if you only need to prop up one black quarterback wouldn't you choose the one with the highest chance of succeeding? I don't see why they would care about making Hue Jackson look good. They're not out to convince people that blacks are just as intelligent as Whites. That's already been established long ago in this bizzaro world we live in.They're primary focus is to convince people that blacks are better than whites at the quarterback position.

If Watson was just having a "good" season then I wouldn't question it. But he's not just having a good season, he's having an historic, record breaking, MVP caliber season as a rookie that nobody in the world saw coming. It would also be different he was breaking records in college, vastly distancing himself from the rest of the pack, and being hailed as this once in a generational talent that's guaranteed to light up the NFL one day. But that never happened either. What do you have to say about the huge difference in offensive production between last season combined with the first 2 weeks of this season and from week 3 and out? Why did he play like we all expected him to play in the first 2 games and then suddenly morph into a combination of John Elway and Tom Brady during week 3? You really believe he's just good enough on his own to do what no other quarterback in NFL history has ever done?

I'm not trying to put this theory of mine on equal footing with the caste system. They are both conspiracies though. Just because you have evidence and facts to back something up doesn't mean it can't be a conspiracy . The Iran Contra scandal is still considered a conspiracy and no one even disputes what happened anymore. The caste system is a huge conspiracy with lots of hard evidence behind it, mine is much smaller and the only evidence I have is circumstantial at the moment. But I still think my theory is more plausible than Occam's razor in this case.

 

[Don Wassall]

I think I did provide some evidence in my post. It may be circumstantial but it's not like I can secretly record conversations between Bill O'Brian, the league office, and his coaching staff. What if someone gained access to the all-22 footage of Waston's games and compared the opposing teams' defense schemes to how they lined up against other quarterbacks, would you consider that enough evidence? Do you need those secretly recorded conversations and some leaked memos from the NFL office? Is there anything I could do to convince you?

No, there isn't. Convince me that the league office selects a game each week, and then, to use a football term, huddles with the respective coaching staffs and orders one of them to commit felonies by deliberately throwing a game so that a black quarterback will have good stats? It's as ludicrous as your previous insistence that White quarterbacks are tribal leaders who should be throwing away their careers by leading an uprising against the Caste System.

I explained in my post earlier today my view on the negativity in the weekly threads. I'm not going to post any further on it, nor get in a prolonged discussion with you about your latest fantasy. Take that for what it's worth.

 

[Bruce]

where did I say they're throwing games? The Texans actually have a losing record since Watson went on his historic run. Not playing good defense doesn't mean you're throwing the game it just means you have to win the shootout. And strange enough all of the Texans' games since week 3 have been shootouts

I never said white quarterbacks should throw away their careers to lead an uprising against the caste system. They are tribal leaders though . What I did say is at the end of their careers they should take a stand against the caste system and not worry about their legacies and reputations.

I know you don't want to hear this but I think some other people here might. During Watson's record breaking streak of games he's played against the following teams; Patriots, Titans, Browns, Chiefs, Seahawks. The following is the amount of points those defenses gave up on average when excluding the Texans as well as where the Texas rank for each of those teams in terms of the most points given up.


Patriots : avg points given up 20.8 : points given up to the Texans 33 : Texans' rank #2
Titans 19.3 : 57 : #1
Chiefs 21.1 : 34: #1
Browns 24.1 : 33: #1
Seahawks 15.6: 38 : #1

 

[CrazyFinn]

If there was a conspiracy orchestrated by the league to make black quarterbacks look good in an effort to transform the position, then they're not doing a very good job because two of their most recent golden boys are out of the league entirely.

Gremlin and Kaepernick were both supposed to revolutionize the game. They became two of the faces of the league, appearing in many commercials and often talked about in the same sentence as the future "Brady and Manning", with sCam and Russell Wilson also in the mix.

Instead, it turned out that Gremlin just wasn't very good, ineffective and too injury prone, and the defenses figured him out very quickly after his "electric" rookie season. He's out of football entirely at the moment and I'd be very surprised if ever gets another look. Why would they discard him so quickly if they were so heavily invested in him (2nd overall pick) and the agenda?

Kaepernick literally made his name on three games (all wins) against the Packers and their worthless Swiss-cheese defense. In 2 playoff and one regular season game, he ran all over them and all of a sudden he was supposedly on his way to greatness. The idiot Ron Jaworski even said Kaepernick could be the greatest QB of all time. But the fact is, he was part of a very good SF team with a great defense, solid running game, and some decent weapons on offense. All of his weaknesses were masked by that, plus the schemes used by Harbaugh to maximize what little talent he had. He lasted a bit longer than Gremlin, but eventually exposed, and after starting the BS anthem movement, is done with the NFL forever.

sCam is also on the downside of his career, as are most black QBs approaching the age of 30. White QBs usually start hitting their primes at that age.

The only black QB who is legitimately good is Russell Wilson, and no one saw that coming. He's not even that popular in his own locker room because some of the odious members of that team don't think he's black enough.

I believe Watson will have some staying power, and along with Wilson/Prescott, but that's about it. Turnover prone and wildly inconsistent Winston will never amount to anything and the other handful of black QBs are total bums, so I'm not even worried about them.

Sorry for the long post, but I just don't believe there's a "fix" to deliberately throw games in an effort to make certain black QBs look good.

 

[backrow]

Haha, reading that made me miss bigunreal and his 'everything is rigged' vibe.

 

[Freethinker]

I think Watson’s season right now is a weird anomaly that you sometimes can’t explain. He’s got some talent as a passer as evident by his college career and his team has a few top flight receivers. Couple that with Bill O’Brien’s reputation as a QB guru and it’s not out of the realm of possibility that Watson could have a streak of crazy good play. Let’s see if he can sustain it as more game tape becomes available for opposing defenses to look at.

One thing I just noticed that was lost in that debacle of a game between Seattle and Houston was Tanner McEvoy catching a 53 yard pass. It was only his 1st if the year, but he’s only an injury away from one of the top three receivers from having a large role. Silver lining...

 

[Freethinker]

Also no mention of Travis Kelce’s 133 yard with a touchdown game on national television? Kelce is up to 556 yards on the season which is good for 6th best in the league. That projects to 1,112 if he keeps the pace.

Other guys projected to go over 1k are:

Thielen - 1,254
Gronkowski - 1,091
Ertz - 1,056

Hogan could reach the mark if he plays in the remaining 8 games and has a few 100 yard efforts. Same could be said for Brate who’s got an equal shot. Nelson’s season was derailed by the A-Rod injury. He’d need to average 78 yards a game to reach the mark. Not impossible but unlikely if GB sticks with the scatter-armed black quarterback.

 

[Leonardfan]

Sounds like the Dolphins are having a bit of a fire sale - they traded away their RB and are shopping one of their WRs. Perhaps Drew Morgan will get some playing time this year. Gase has no issues calling out the affletes on his team and has just rid himself of ajayai. I don't quite understand how he can stand by during the draft while the personnel dept selects a bunch of bums. The dolphins did a simialar thing last season when they dumped 3 of their sumos. I wish Gase would get control of the personnel decisions for Miami rather than have tannenbaum in control.

 

[Leonardfan]

Watson plays just like he did in college - he's more of a pocket qb than a running qb. I give him credit for being a downfield passer in a league full of dinking and dunking. Once teams begin reviewing college film and get enough NFL tape on him we will have a better idea of his long term success in the NFL.

Billy Volek went on a similar run back in 2004 for the Titans but the league adjusted and Volek's performance proved to be an anomaly. Game film is always the great equalizer - ask the gremlin and toucan.

 

[Shadowlight]

A couple of things before I get back to the Houston-Seattle CREEPFEST. Chris Hogan will not require surgery and will be out about a month or less so terrible that he will miss time but the good news is he will be back and it was not a leg injury that would affect his speed. The Pats are losing too many key players.
As Free mentioned above Kelce was nothing short of magnificent last night. He is what I would call a new breed type of TE but he is nearly alone in a category I would call Tight Receiver--a blend of a WR and a TE. The Chiefs Coach bothers me though. He is too damn conservative for my liking and I can see that biting him once again in the ass come playoff time. Too bad WR Jordan Taylodidn't factor in last night despite getting snaps.
The NFL for all their faults and there are many is not MLB. MLB is a lying deceitful league. For example when the "steroid era" was going down everyone knew about it including slime ball Bud Selig but they acted stupid and said nothing because the money was pouring in. When it was becoming painfully obvious to everyone ( Barry Bond's head the size of a pumpkin) that guys were on the juice MLB finally made a move. Same thing going on now. Ask any pitcher if the ball is "juiced" and they will say hell yes. What about the batters you ask? Do you think batters are going to bitch about juiced baseballs? Watch that pop up sail over the fence--- groovy man.
That said the owners and coaches in the NFL are complicit in having so many black players in the league but I can't fathom them getting together to rig games or mess with play assignments to allow other teams to prosper. But for sure many to most coaches put together heavily black teams, especially in key skill slots to keep the peace and this has been going on in college football as well.
With one caveat in the Houston/Seattle game, Tanner McEvoy caught his first pass of the season for 53 yards, the game had so many "pieces" fall in place my suspicion was aroused. Think about the many college basketball games through the years between "black" squads who like to get up and down the court. Often those games turn into offensive flash play showcases where there is this unspoken truce between the teams that states don't play defense. Perhaps there was some of that going on in this game as some sort of brotherhood/black power/lets make ourselves look great type of thing. And as a result of this type of "truce' white players as a concept are left out in the cold. Factor in both these teams had the "black power" thing going on full steam ahead the game reminded me of these college football battles where black WR's put up huge numbers against black DB's with say a 6 -217--- 3 TD stat line as a matador style defense rules the day. In the Seattle game all the key offensive and defensive players got to pad their stats--it all just seemed all too convenient to me. That said perhaps the Seattle- Houston game just played out like that. Whatever the case I don't like it and have seen it happen all too often in college. Conversely it looked like Oklahoma State was double teaming if not triple teaming WR David Sills Saturday. Guess they didn't want whitey to make any splash plays like the "brothers?" I have long suspected that white WR' get "extra attention" from the black DB's. As for QB Watson it is way too early to speculate on his ability outside of the fact they are losing games---which is the "key stat."
As a card carrying member of the "bleak patrol" around here I will try to point out, as Don suggested, the "positives" more often but that can be difficult in the face of the current sports world.

 

[DixieDestroyer]

The caste system is indeed a conspiracy against White athletes, but it’s also a proven fact...not a theory. Spread this truth to those with ears to hear & minds to comprehend.