2017 NFL Week 15

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Austin Ekeler (who?) has cost the Chargers big in two games this year - probably responsible for the loss tonight and had a huge fumble against the Jags late in a game they lost yet still gets alot of touches. Meanwhile Zenner gets no playing time.
 

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It's a toss-up between Zach Zenner and Jeff Janis as to who is the most screwed-over current NFL player.
I think these two guys are making around 350K a year. Pretty confident that is the main reason they are not rocking the boat. Much like Burkhead with CINN last year. "Hey, as long as I am on the roster, and do not have to take the hits, why complain or make a stink, I am getting paid pretty well."
 

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I think these two guys are making around 350K a year. Pretty confident that is the main reason they are not rocking the boat. Much like Burkhead with CINN last year. "Hey, as long as I am on the roster, and do not have to take the hits, why complain or make a stink, I am getting paid pretty well."
Zach Zenner signed a 3 year $1,580,000 salary 2 years ago, I believe He's making $615,000 this season.
Jeff Janis has a 4 year $2,721,000 salary.
The rookie minimum is $420,000/year
 

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lots of money for the average westerner but peanuts for an NFL player....especially when these guys are elite athletes and elite football players and get to watch in full dress or get scratched while undeserving lesser negros play ahead of them.

Total racism....
 

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Really looking forward to the Patriots - Steelers today. Very important game. New England looked flat against Miami on Monday night, but they will be up for this game and they get Gronk back. The big question mark of course won't be the offense but the horrible defense that gave up 30 points to the Dolphins last week. They were missing a few defensive starters against Miami. Not sure if they get any back today.
 

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I think these two guys are making around 350K a year. Pretty confident that is the main reason they are not rocking the boat. Much like Burkhead with CINN last year. "Hey, as long as I am on the roster, and do not have to take the hits, why complain or make a stink, I am getting paid pretty well."
I have a suspicion the "reason" Zenner and Janis arent playing is precisely because they DID say something. It is too obvious their coaches are purposely burying them with spite.
 

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Zach Zenner signed a 3 year $1,580,000 salary 2 years ago, I believe He's making $615,000 this season.
Jeff Janis has a 4 year $2,721,000 salary.
The rookie minimum is $420,000/year
Close, but I'd vote Jeff Janis. How could the screw job be any worse? He's been nothing but spectacular every chance he gets including preseason. I don't know of any receiver in the NFL with better overall measurables and yet his role has diminished being passed over by 190 lbs rookies with 4.7 speed. Janis would be a sure fire top 5 NFL receiver if he got the chance. Sure the coaching staff is to blame but Aaron Rodgers is a big social justice warrior with an ego to match. He certainly had a role in Janis' poor treatment. He has the look and personality of a guy I'd naturally like to punch in the face just by being around him. I wish him nothing but the worst today in his return.

The NFL is about 90% black at WR position, but can you name one white receiver who hasn't been successful when given a chance to start? Most end up being spectacular. The very few white receivers who get a chance to start often end up being top 10 receivers. Adam Thielen, Jordy Nelson, and Cooper Kupp (might be the sole example of a white WR starting as a rookie) are good examples. Thielen may be the best receiver in the NFL - although many regard Julio Jones or antonio Brown as the best. BTW - Janis and Julio Jones almost have identical measurables. In a fair world at least 70% of receivers would be white.
 
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Close, but I'd vote Jeff Janis. How could the screw job be any worse? He's been nothing but spectacular every chance he gets including preseason. I don't know of any receiver in the NFL with better overall measurables and yet his role has diminished being passed over by 190 lbs rookies with 4.7 speed. Janis would be a sure fire top 5 NFL receiver if he got the chance. Sure the coaching staff is to blame but Aaron Rodgers is a big social justice warrior with an ego to match. He certainly had a role in Janis' poor treatment. He has the look and personality of a guy I'd naturally like to punch in the face just by being around him. I wish him nothing but the worst today in his return.

The NFL is about 90% black at WR position, but can you name one white receiver who hasn't been successful when given a chance to start? Most end up being spectacular. The very few white receivers who get a chance to start often end up being top 10 receivers. Adam Thielen, Jordy Nelson, and Cooper Kupp (might be the sole example of a white WR starting as a rookie) are good examples. Thielen may be the best receiver in the NFL - although many regard Julio Jones or antonio Brown as the best. BTW - Janis and Julio Jones almost have identical measurables. In a fair world at least 70% of receivers would be white.

The excuse about Rodgers not being able to trust Janis should of been thrown out the window when Hundley was brought into play. Obviously Hundley has issues with an NFL offense but you would think a second string QB would have developed a rapport with Janis who would of been getting 2nd string reps in practice - unless he has just been relegated to WSTD. The fact that Green Bay brings in scrubs and plays them over Janis is basically the same as Tion F'n Green getting playing time while Zenner is a scratch. Both Zenner and Janis who have shown good things when they have played are being screwed over equally as bad IMO.
 

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Looks like Chris Hogan isn't playing today. He looked pretty useless last week, probably tried to come back too soon from his shoulder injury and ended up aggravating it. He was a monster against the Steelers in the playoffs last year, hopefully he's healed for this year's playoffs.

In a surprising move, ESPN's Adam Schefter reports this morning Patriots WR Chris Hogan is not expected to play. It's the late afternoon game so we won't have official word until about 3:00 today. But for now, it's looking like Hogan isn't playing.
 

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The Chiefs took care of business last night but was disappointed Kelce just fell short of the 1,000 yard marker. Alex Smith played extremely well and this team might be back in form. Hard to tell? S Daniel Sorensen played well and remember even though he was a combine invite he was never drafted. And guess what? He leads the Chiefs in tackles. On two different key plays Sorensen was in the proper position to help out his CB and break up very long passes. There HAS to be a rethink at the college and NFL level about the urgent need for more white DB's because like I have mentioned over and over again the DB play, now dominated almost exclusively by blacks, I have witnessed the past 7 plus years is the WORST I have ever seen. It is beyond atrocious in many cases yet they just keep wheeling these black DB's out there every week advertised as the greatest athletes in the sport. My ass most of them suck on so many levels whether it be physically ( many are incapable of adjusting and making a play on a ball in the air and or mentally where they misread a play after play.

As for TE Kelce he is so multi talented it is ridiculous. Not just a one dimensional pass catcher he is a terrific blocker too. A true WR/TE, last night he put up a nifty quick move and faked the crap out of a DB last night. It made me think with his moves is Kelce more of a big WR who happens to be a great blocker rather than a TE as we know it? Whatever you want to label him he is one of the best players in all of the NFL.
 
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Finally Hundley is back to the bench! Friggin bum! Should be a good one today GB vs Car with the return of ARod!
 

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Really looking forward to the Patriots - Steelers today. Very important game. New England looked flat against Miami on Monday night, but they will be up for this game and they get Gronk back. The big question mark of course won't be the offense but the horrible defense that gave up 30 points to the Dolphins last week. They were missing a few defensive starters against Miami. Not sure if they get any back today.

This is the most hyped regular season game in Pittsburgh I can remember. The Steelers and their DWFs have a real inferiority complex toward the Patriots, so hopefully Brady & Co. will win, the more convincing the better (though this is the blackest Patriots team in some time). And of course a win will go a long way toward getting them home field advantage throughout the playoffs over Pittsburgh, which is huge.
 

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Looking forward to seeing the Vikings win big against the Bengals.
 

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McCaffrey getting early carries.
 

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McCaffrey already 50all purpose yards!
 

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Idler Arm Taylor is the absolute WORST kind of QB to have on your team. The Bills will end up winning enough games to where they think he doesn't need to be replaced. They'll keep Idler Arm around and look for other positions to upgrade. Meanwhile, his limited ability ends up preventing the Bills from being a true contender. When will they ever learn?
 

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Finally we are seeing the use McCaffrey like they should be. Great start to the game.

4 rushes for 20 yards and over 40 yards receiving in the first drive alone. Outstanding.
 
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