2016 NFL Week 3

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Clay Matthews won't play tomorrow because of sore ankle and hamstring, expect to see rookie Kyler Fackrell quite a bit!
 

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McCaffrey is not an outlier. I see White kids in high school that look very similar in terms of game footage and measurables every single year. His 40 time is going to be good (my guess is around 4.5, 4.45 at best) but his 3 cone and shuttle times will be elite (like most White athletes). Most of the White guys that get a chance in college are bulkier power type runners (Gerhart and Hester). McGuffie got a shot as a true freshman for a few games but had trouble with vision in my opinion. If all of those kids with similar measurables and game tape were recruited at rb we'd have more backs pan out. At 6 ft 193 pounds out of high school I'm surprised he wasn't asked to change positions to wr or safety .
 
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This weekend will see some white tight ends more in the spotlight. Tampa Bay cut their black tight end, so Cameron Brate should see more of a role, and in Denver and San Diego, injuries will put white tight ends, including Hunter Henry in SD, in the starting lineup.
Although I'm happy that Brate is getting an opportunity, and I hope he kicks ass, but there is NO WAY that I would actually root for Jameez to complete a single pass, even to a white guy.
 

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What was his 40 time ?
He was at 4.42 with with a short shuttle of 4.03 and a 3 cone of 6.80. His 100 meter was in the 10.80's. But his vision was what was fun. He could be running at full speed and make crazy moves with out slowing down that would make the defensive guys just fall down. Things happen though, injuries, bad attitudes, ah, what could have been. He's doing great in his post-football life though.
 

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The biggest reason we don't see many white athletes competing for speed is they don't run. Yes, there is some natural ability involved, but you also have to practice, work and participate in speed events.

BTW, welcome FashAnonymous!
Aint this the truth! My son also ran track, and was consistently the best, but he was always chosen as the 3rd or 4th runner behind black kids who had slower times! It was like the coach was convinced that at any second, their inner Usain Bolt was going to come out and they would run sub 10. After all, in the eyes of cuck white coaches, ALL blacks have this crazy innate speed ability that just needs to be coaxed out of them. My son would end up running 400 meters, which he was also good at, but he didn't condition himself for that, just 100 and 200. Sucks to throw up after running full tilt for 400 meters!
 

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Well I certainly agree with that. I only really cheer for white athletes, but I don't let that blind me to obvious differences in athletic traits.

As many here have said and I hate to argue this point again, but I feel I should correct people who just don't know any better. FashAnonymous, I have been to AAU Track meets and many a' HS combines. One combine comes to mind was in Atlanta, the southeast regional combine,probably the toughest place to win a combine in the US. I saw a white HS player named Braxton Berrios dominate the entire combine in every phase from the vertical jump, the shuttle and the 40 time. He won the overall MVP and is now playing for the Miami Hurricanes as a WR. I would say 95% of the other players he was competing against were black. Another white RB, only one of two white RB's in the entire competition came out as the overall mumber 2 or 3 RB in the combine. What I and others here are saying is the white athletes that actually compete are just as athletically gifted and even better. My biggest point is, there just aren't that many white players out there actually competing and are not showing up for camps and combines. Ryan Switzer the punt returner/WR for UNC dominated the combine he attended in the Mid Atlantic area. How many do I need to tell you about. McCaffrey, Berrios, Switzer, and I can name many more. Some are not as lucky as McCaffrey! I've said this before also, we may not have had the pleasure of watching McCaffrey had his father not been a pro athlete. Switzer's father had connections at UNC or you wouldn't have seen him either, the same could be said for Berrios as well.
There's many more McCaffrey's, Switzer's, and Berrios' out there. All of them can't be outlier's. Some compete and don't get the opportunities these three have received and just fade away. Another problem is that white athletes just chose to play other sports, (baseball) or not compete at all. If this is not true, then why don't we see more whites competing in Track and Field or at combines? You can't say it's because they're just not good enough. If that's the case then how do you explain the one's that do show up usually are one of the best. You're telling me that out of the 75% of the whites that make up this country and only a few white athletes are great.
FashAnonymous, these are just a few observations from a guy from a small town in NC. I know there are many CF members who can tell you the same stories about white athletes they know. I invite you to take a closer look at what's really going on. One more thing, about the NFL. Arguably the best three players in the NFL currently at their position, in a lot of peoples opinion, are white. JJ Watt, the best and most athletic D-Lineman, Luke Kuechly, the best LB, and Harrison Smith, the best Safety! As you should know there's not a whole of white defensive players in the NFL period. You're telling me that of all the white football players in this country there's only three great one's that just happen to be the best at their position. No, there's other factors at stake here and it ain't just that blacks are better!
 

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speaking of baseball, I put on a cubs game the other day and they have two very talented ex football guys. Jeff Samardzija and Matt Szczur. Jeff is around 6'5 and had good speed and would've dominated the nfl. Matt had 4.3 speed. I don't blame them for choosing baseball though. Gerhart should've chosen baseball instead of wasting his prime years backing up ap
 
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Before this site was hacked and the older articles had to be ditched, we had an article that was a compilation of a bunch of online newspaper articles about top White running backs not being recruited. In some the White kid was flat out told by major program coaches and recruiters that they did not give scholarships to White running backs. Other articles pointed out how a number of top White running backs in a particular state were all ignored while black ones were heavily recruited. They were mostly in smaller newspapers, where the cultural communist filters sometimes aren't quite as rigid, but I recall a good article from The Chicago Tribune as well. And then there was the infamous article where Bobby Bowden was asked if he'd ever recruit a White running back and he responded by laughing so hard he almost fell over.

A few years ago, we also had a list of the top high school running backs in each state. About half were White, yet few if any were recruited, while all the black ones were.

Then there's the fact that for the first 30 years the NFL was racially integrated, there were plenty of starting White running backs (and cornerbacks, safeties, wide receivers, etc.) As late as 1973 the leading rusher on almost half the teams was White. The defense of the undefeated 1972 Miami Dolphins had 10 White starters (and of course Larry Csonka and Jim Kiick at RB along with Mercury Morris).

In the mid-1980s Whites were noticeably purged from what are now regarded as "black only" positions, although the trend had slowly but surely been going that way since the late 1960s. Check how many of the White stars in today's NFL were forced to be walk-ons or were only offered by small colleges. I was watching Cal-Arizona State a bit ago and Chad Hansen, the leading receiver in the country, made a spectacular catch where he leaped very high and then executed amazing body control to get a foot in bounds. It was reminiscent of Jordy Nelson at his best. The announcer then marveled how no one wanted Hansen out of high school. The pattern repeats itself over and over -- but the announcers always pretend to be surprised rather than pointing out the obvious, long-standing policies of racial discrimination when it comes to awarding scholarships and developing talent.
 
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Before this site was hacked and the older articles had to be ditched, we had an article that was a compilation of a bunch of online newspaper articles about top White running backs not being recruited. In some the White kid was flat out told by major program coaches and recruiters that they did not give scholarships to White running backs. Other articles pointed out how a number of top White running backs in a particular state were all ignored while black ones were heavily recruited. They were mostly in smaller newspapers, where the cultural communist filters sometimes aren't quite as rigid, but I recall a good article from The Chicago Tribune as well. And then there was the infamous article where Bobby Bowden was asked if he'd ever recruit a White running back and he responded by laughing so hard he almost fell over.

A few years ago, we also had a list of the top high school running backs in each state. About half were White, yet few if any were recruited, while all the black ones were.

Then there's the fact that for the first 30 years the NFL was racially integrated, there were plenty of starting White running backs (and cornerbacks, safeties, wide receivers, etc.) As late as 1973 the leading rusher on almost half the teams was White. The defense of the undefeated 1972 Miami Dolphins had 10 White starters (and of course Larry Csonka and Jim Kiick at RB along with Mercury Morris).

In the mid-1980s Whites were noticeably purged from what are now regarded as "black only" positions, although the trend had slowly but surely been going that way since the late 1960s. Check how many of the White stars in today's NFL were forced to be walk-ons or were only offered by small colleges. I was watching Cal-Arizona State a bit ago and Chad Hansen, the leading receiver in the country, made a spectacular catch where he leaped very high and then executed amazing body control to get a foot in bounds. It was reminiscent of Jordy Nelson at his best. The announcer then marveled how no one wanted Hansen out of high school. The pattern repeats itself over and over -- but the announcers always pretend to be surprised rather than pointing out the obvious, long-standing policies of racial discrimination when it comes to awarding scholarships and developing talent.
I remember this book by Paul Kersey that cited many of the same articles. https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/1460...tDescription_secondary_view_div_1474774142653
 
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In the mid-1980s Whites were noticeably purged from what are now regarded as "black only" positions, although the trend had slowly but surely been going that way since the late 1960s. Check how many of the White stars in today's NFL were forced to be walk-ons or were only offered by small colleges. I was watching Cal-Arizona State a bit ago and Chad Hansen, the leading receiver in the country, made a spectacular catch where he leaped very high and then executed amazing body control to get a foot in bounds. It was reminiscent of Jordy Nelson at his best. The announcer then marveled how no one wanted Hansen out of high school. The pattern repeats itself over and over -- but the announcers always pretend to be surprised rather than pointing out the obvious, long-standing policies of racial discrimination when it comes to awarding scholarships and developing talent.

I have a question about that for you and the older members here. When Whites were being purged from those positions did anyone back then notice or complain about it ? Did the media try and make excuses for why it was happening ?
 

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I became racially aware in 1981, and began looking closely at the racial dynamics of the NFL and sports in general. I was also a political junkie well before then and I can't recall any coherent opposition to what was taking place in sports other than some rants about the "negrification" of sports and society in general. I believe Caste Football is the first and still the only organized, intelligent attempt to expose the Caste System and the demeaning of White athletes.
 
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have a question about that for you and the older members here. When Whites were being purged from those positions did anyone back then notice or complain about it ? Did the media try and make excuses for why it was happening ?

I seriously thought about filing a complaint after my son was told by two D-1 coaches that they would not recruit him because he was a white RB. I was standing right there beside my son when they told him that, however, after he tore his ACL, twice, I didn't pursue it, because he received and accepted a D-1AA scholarship and I'm pretty sure the coaches would have denied it and if not they would have used the excuse that he was injured. Plus, it seems that coaches recruit and offer just enough scholarships, Cade Karney Wake Forest and McCaffrey, Stanford to cover themselves. I know that is no excuse, but that is enough for now to get them by or so it seems.
 
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I was racially aware from time I was in the 3rd grade. I lived amongst blacks from 1 till 18 yrs old. Most of them always annoyed the f*ck out me then and today. LOL But I remember thinking in 1977 why there was a dearth of white RBs in the NFL. I remember Earl Campbell got injured. Rob Carpenter filled in for him nicely. Rob was later traded to the Giants where he had a couple of good years. I remember Giants being in the playoffs, I believe 1981 or so. During the introduction, I can remember the announcer ridiculing Rob. Even then the demeaning of Whites was evident.
 
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I became racially aware in 1981, and began looking closely at the racial dynamics of the NFL and sports in general. I was also a political junkie well before then and I can't recall any coherent opposition to what was taking place in sports other than some rants about the "negrification" of sports and society in general. I believe Caste Football is the first and still the only organized, intelligent attempt to expose the Caste System and the demeaning of White athletes.

I want to say I'm dissapointed no one said anything back then but it's not like anyone other than us right now is complaining about white qb's getting displaced. It's hard to believe that this has been going on for decades now and still hardly anybody outside of the system knows anything about it. To think that there are all these stupid conspiracies out there about things like the moon landing and the illuminati and millions of people believe in them. Meanwhile this is going on in front of our very eyes, there's tons of evidence supporting us, there are actual real life consequences involved, and it's negatively affecting the lives of millions of people; yet we can't even get more than a few dozen active members on this site. It's sad. I'm just glad I found this place
 
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I seriously thought about filing a complaint after my son was told by two D-1 coaches that they would not recruit him because he was a white RB. I was standing right there beside my son when they told him that, however, after he tore his ACL, twice, I didn't pursue it, because he received and accepted a D-1AA scholarship and I'm pretty sure the coaches would have denied it and if not they would have used the excuse that he was injured. Plus, it seems that coaches recruit and offer just enough scholarships, Cade Karney Wake Forest and McCaffrey, Stanford to cover themselves. I know that is no excuse, but that is enough for now to get them by or so it seems.

Whoa I can't believe a d1 coach actually said that to you. I'm surprised he'd be that brazen about it. What a scumbag. I wish you could have recorded him
 
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Yep, Kersey's very knowledgeable and has written a lot of good material about what's going on.
I don't know about Kersey. Yeah he writes about college football but I think he builds on a lot of your work without giving you or this site any credit. I was listening to him on a podcast a few weeks ago and he really came off sounding like the Caste System is a theory he came up with on his own. I highly doubt that someone his age discovered the caste system without visiting this site
 

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I don't know about Kersey. Yeah he writes about college football but I think he builds on a lot of your work without giving you or this site any credit. I was listening to him on a podcast a few weeks ago and he really came off sounding like the Caste System is a theory he came up with on his own. I highly doubt that someone his age discovered the caste system without visiting this site
He's linked to Caste Football on his site. It's also entirely possible he noticed the caste system in sports before ever coming to CF. I certainly did.
 

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I want to say I'm dissapointed no one said anything back then but it's not like anyone other than us right now is complaining about white qb's getting displaced. It's hard to believe that this has been going on for decades now and still hardly anybody outside of the system knows anything about it. To think that there are all these stupid conspiracies out there about things like the moon landing and the illuminati and millions of people believe in them. Meanwhile this is going on in front of our very eyes, there's tons of evidence supporting us, there are actual real life consequences involved, and it's negatively affecting the lives of millions of people; yet we can't even get more than a few dozen active members on this site. It's sad. I'm just glad I found this place


It's more than a few dozen, but trying to get racially aware Whites to do anything becomes more difficult all the time. On a site like this everyone's anonymous and it's free unless someone chooses to make a donation, yet we continually lose good posters to. . . what exactly? I've never quite figured it out. Rampant demoralization and apathy I guess.

Same thing with activism. No one wants to be an activist anymore, only armchair philosophers. The alt-right likes to congratulate itself on its influence, but it has almost none because it is an internet "movement" only, not one actually pursuing power. The publicity the alt-right has received of late in the "mainstream media" has come about mainly as a way to bludgeon Donald Trump, not because it can deliver any candidates or even any votes.

Until that changes, American Whites will continue their freefall into historical oblivion.
 
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I have a question about that for you and the older members here. When Whites were being purged from those positions did anyone back then notice or complain about it ? Did the media try and make excuses for why it was happening ?
I was an adamant NFL fan as a kid growing up in the 70's and all the way through the 1983 Superbowl. I really started to become aware during the 1984 season, when Ditka's Bears became a powerhouse and eventually won the Superbowl. I wasn't a Bears fan at all but I did like, or better yet, respected, Walter Payton. Anyway, after that season my interested started to wane, to the point of, after a few more years, no longer following "my team" anymore, but of just following White players throughout the league. I guess I could have gone down the DWF route and placed the game above everything else, even race, but I couldn't do that.

The behavior and background of a majority of black players back then weren't what they are to day. Most came from a two-parent family, spoke proper English and didn't act like ignorant thugs or buffoons. Players like Billy "White Shoes" Johnson were more of a novelty than the norm. But then along came William "The Refrigerator" Perry from Clemson and he became the new archetype of blacks in the NFL all the way up until today. I loathed him, but the (((media))) loved him (of course). I remember around 1985 hoping that this was just a temporary thing and that the NFL would revert back to what it was just a few years ago, but obviously that never happened. The irony is that the team that I really loathed, the 1984/1985 Chicago Bears would probably be considered a CF favorite today...just to give some perspective. Oddly enough, for me the changes from 1983 to 1985 were very noticeable and they weren't just in football, but in music, film, TV, baseball, and in American women/girls where it seemed like they were all becoming more contrived or corrupted and reborn with an entirely new template.
 
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I became racially aware in 1981, and began looking closely at the racial dynamics of the NFL and sports in general. I was also a political junkie well before then and I can't recall any coherent opposition to what was taking place in sports other than some rants about the "negrification" of sports and society in general. I believe Caste Football is the first and still the only organized, intelligent attempt to expose the Caste System and the demeaning of White athletes.
I think it fully kicked in with me during the late 70's seventies. It all started for me in 1978. Before that I mostly but not always rooted for black athletes. But one guy changed that. Larry Bird. I remember being totally mesmerized watching him and his little Indiana State team run through the regular season undefeated. To this day he remains my favorite all time athlete. Around the mid 80's Bird started to lose some of his athletic prowess and it was sad to see the injury riddled later years but man early on he was so dynamic. Even towards the end he could excite the masses. Incredibly coordinated and agile for a man his size he was cat quick and could leap up in the air with a startling suddenness. He could do everything on a basketball court. And he was a great teammate always making key passes and man do I miss those days. You had that black/white Lakers/Celtics thing going on around the country and I think it sorted of kicked in for some people around then. I remember talking to friends after Larry won his first NBA title and they were saying YEHHH the white guy won it! There was something mystical about Bird and Magic back then and I don't think the NBA has that today.
 

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And then there was the infamous article where Bobby Bowden was asked if he'd ever recruit a White running back and he responded by laughing so hard he almost fell over.

Bobby Bowden is a racist.
 

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Oddly enough, for me the changes from 1983 to 1985 were very noticeable and they weren't just in football, but in music, film, TV, baseball, and in American women/girls where it seemed like they were all becoming more contrived or corrupted and reborn with an entirely new template.

It's interesting you mention that time period. The counterculture took hold in America around 1965.

That means children raised in this era were likely to have counterculture values. These children would have been in their late teens or 20s in 1983. Perhaps this partially explains why things started changing around that time, the people changed.
 
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